BMW F80 M3 & M4 Competition package
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Sorry about the audio issues at the start of this video. Sometimes things don't work as expected.
Special thanks to Kyle for your time and letting me use your car in this video. We cover the M3 and M4 competition package, the ZCP exhaust and the Carbon ceramic brakes.
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Those Competition package wheels look awesome when the cars moving!
Love how the Comp wheels look when the car is in motion.
I can't understand why you would opt for a sunroof if you track your car often, especially when opting for the competition package. Actually, I can't understand why anyone would opt for a sunroof at all in an m3/m4 when a carbon roof is standard. It's far better looking and it lowers the center of gravity. Oh grief, I guess I'm just being cynical again. +1 for a great video as always
ZCP Package it totally worth it, it is a Debugged M3, M suspension hugely improved and way more power than the 19 bhp advertised , it is literally 35 to 40 whp as per dynos made by EAS and huge torque bump down low
tell us about your m3 Lui ... :-)
no M3 Here, still m235i , M3 & M4 are too large for me now , better wait and invest in a 911 . i love the S55 Engine but the platform is just too big
Do u salute the sunroof addition over the cf roof? Seems like a terrible idea
+luimarco Which 911 exactly?
new one 991.2 S , manual of course
Not getting the carbon fiber roof on a m3/m4 is a big fail .
+Burim Bunjaku I know,all I was saying was that not getting the carbon fiber roof weather its a m3 or a m4 is a huge fail and yes your right if you check the sunroof option it deletes the carbon fiber roof they are both no cost option its one or the other
seems like this kid realized that the look of the carbon fiber looks bad ass so he went and wrapped it which looks no where as good as the carbon fiber roof ... There is a reason why ones with sunroofs sit on dealer lots useless it's been a special order most m3/m4 buyers want that carbon roof.
What a coincidence that you published this vlog the same day I picked up my Competition M3. Mine is DCT and 48 miles into it I love the noises it makes. Thanks for sharing Nick and your videos are always well executed and entertaining, but not enough to quit your day job ;)
Holly exhaust on the competition pack. Take my money now.
Those 20" wheels are nice imo, but i'd ditch the sunroof and stick with the cf roof.
My dad has a m4 with the carbon ceramics, after you drive it for 5-10k miles the squeaky noises go away, I much prefer your m4 to his spec of m3, my dads m4 is in Austin yellow! Thanks for the video Nick!
Nick Murray, I used to dislike you. Don't know why or what it was, but I couldn't stand you. Now I respect you and appreciate your videos. Amazing how relationships are formed. Thanks for this video
This is good news, always good to have a new friend.
lol I lost my shit when you said it's worth the $5,500 when you were talking about the seat belts
10/10 love my F80 Comp
3:20 nice to see that he drives it the way its meant to be driven
actually, no one drives like that at the track, its slower, Just look at the guy behind him. No drama and just as fast.
Thanks for the video.
I loved the old Competition pack wheels, not this new one.
Are you sure that that is the MPE exhaust? The competition package will burble even without the optional M Performance Exhaust. The change in sound is all tuning. I have 2 videos on my channel showing the burble tuned in by VF Engineering's "Hex Tune" on a stock exhaust and on an MPE.
its not the MPE
www.htms.org/img/032015/GravelSite/M4_MPE_02.jpg
+SAM'NCARS Thanks for clarifying. I thought the MPE looked different than the one in the video.
Yep I got wrong
it is still the MPE but not the big Titanium MPE, ZCP comes with Sport exhaust included
Great video, minus some audio bits. Perfect angles! Perfect commentary!
I wonder if it's possible to order the Competition Package but get them to leave the exterior cosmetic bits (wheels, exhaust, trim) as standard.
This guys M3 was on ammonyc's Instagram because Larry found it in a car park and saw the AMMO sticker!
Thought the same
Yup Larry found it in the lot.
I have the M4 CP.. the ride has been fantastic driving through the Italian Alps and down to Spain.. I didn't however opt for the M performance exhaust, the CP exhaust sounds awesome as it is.
Thinking of making some videos on it, but unsure..
Good job Nick,might wait until they arrive in Australia and change my E92 for comp package.
The carbon ceramics will also improve ride quality. Less unsprung weight.
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Yeah the white car does not have the M Performance exhaust. The MPE is an accessory available through the dealership. The competition pack does have its own unique exhaust with black tips (like in this video).
Many people say they hate how the new M4/M3 sounds and that the V8 is better, which i agree on but with the right exhaust mod i could never get tired of those burbles and cracks they are intoxicating
When are you coming to Europe Nick? Need to compare the sound of that M3 with competition package to my Alpina B3 Biturbo...
Nice video Nick. The M3 looks great in white, not sure I like the wheels though. The exhaust sounds sooo much better and I dig the burble.
At 3:19 you can hear how much better the old v8 M3 sounds....
AMMO NYC! Good man
a video comparing the competition package sports exhaust vs M performance exhaust would be pretty cool to see
I have a f31 335d xdrive with adaptive m sport suspension best I've ever had in any bm Nick. So smooth in comfort mode. Please put a 335d up against an m3 to see the difference. Class house by the way.
After listening to the exhaust. I like the sound of the standard exhaust. All those added crackles just takes away from the exhaust sound.
Agreed, I'm not a fan of cracks and burbles. I also like how the standard M4 exhaust doesn't have as deep of a note.
Spot on. Those fake crackles are just annoying. I'd much rather hear the engine rev to Heave when downshifting at a stoplight than hear a machine gun.
Alex M. Exactly.
Kyle Cronin Yup.
There's an optional sport exhaust for the competition package he didnt have
Great comparison. I still can't get over how bad the exhust sounds on these cars. The M Performace exhaust sounds better but the burbble and the popping would get annoying.
Like the 4 doors. Nick's rims.
Need grey paint and dark brown or black leather
Nice video. Would have almost sprung for the carbon breaks just to cut down on the hell that is the brake dust.
Excellent comparison video! Thanks!
nick's car is firmer because m4 as standard is harder riding than m3
joseph young exacfly
some audio issues in this one
Yes stupid DJI Osmo, I am never using it again, I regret it every time!
Try the røde VMP, its great!
The CP does not come with the M-Performance exhaust. It is fitted with a "sports" exhaust, which is a variation of the standard exhaust. The car in the video is simply fitted with the "sports" exhaust that comes standard with the CP.
The M-Performance exhaust is a different design altogether with the rear muffler made of titanium and replaces the mid resonator with an H-pipe. It can be ordered either with titanium tips or carbon fibre tips, which both look much better than the blacked out standard tips of the CP "sports" exhaust. The M-Perfromance exhaust can also be added to the CP for even more aural experience ;o).
Nice review. Love the M3/M4
Love it.
Love your m4 too. Personally I do not like the 20"rims. your m4 rims are much nicer.
great job - as usual. question, could the perceived ride, stiffness difference between the two be attributed to the fact that one is an M3, and the other is an M4? or do you think it's really ZCP?
keep up the good work!
You got me at blurb blurb blurb blurb...
There's also different calibration for the diff and higher spring rates according to auto express
Oh u said that my b
Thank you Nick, very helpful
great review Nick!
Love the competition pack. but I am not a fan of the wheels unfortunately.
the reason why the m3 feels more comfortable is probably because of the carbon brakes which are way lighter and remove unsprung mass. imho though, they're still not worth it as they cost a fortune to replace, which is something you're going to do frequently if you drive on track
Yeah Nick! When are you doing an M2 review?
Odd video. The title states M4 comp but it's the M3 that is comp package.
Great Review Nick! I have to ask though, do you know if the carbon ceramic brakes on the Competition Package M3's/M4's aid in it's better ride quality?
Liked and subscribed. Nice video. Love the M3.
i honestly feel like the adaptive M suspension in the standard M4 doesnt do anything. I can't notice a difference on any of the settings. I can tell a difference in steering settings, but not the suspension.
What's your opinion on the current M6 model? Love to see a review. Although I guess you did one of the M5 which is pretty similar. I'd love an F13 with the manual
Apologies for audio issues AREN'T ENOUGH.
Nick do you think perhaps the ride difference is down to it being a sedan? Have you driven another non comp M3 to compare the ride to your M4? I'm really surprised the M3 would be softer ride with those 20's, or is it because the M3 has dynamic suspension? (I forget if your M4 has that)
Great video.
Heck, it's almost worth the extra $5,500 just for the exhaust sound :) Plus the wheels look amazing when moving.
I think the MPE isn't included in the competition package, you have to pay extra for the exhaust
that exhaust comes with it. the MPE one is the one with the carbon tips
yeah thats not the MPE tho ... still pretty god!
hey nick. i really enjoy your videos and think that you're one of the most entertaining contributors on here but is there any way you could focus a little less on bmw products and share your opinions on other brands?
Amazing car, but I really hope BMW interiors get a much better improvements. Their competitions are really packing in on both performance and interior design.
Hi Nick, I m very huge big fans of yours, i m deciding make an M4 convertible with competition package, but first of all, i want to know is it more comfort than standard m4 while in comfort mode? means ride more comfort... someones said more firm than stock...
So upgraded seats are part of the $5,000 package... but you don't get them on the convertible.. but the cost is still the same? Am I missing something?
Its $5500 for the coupe, $5000 for the convertible
Sometimes I wish I could "read good". Haha. I gotcha.
Comp in Sport+ sounds like a popcorn maker.
+Nick Murray can you get your hands on an M4 Convertible? I would really like you to "review" one of those
I went to a dealer here in California and I told them that I was looking to buy an M4. The guy was very rude but once I told him I was going to buy it cash he stayed quiet. I took my business somewhere else.
The wheels I am the M3 look sick when spinning!
The wheels are rounder on the CP i have heard
Think that M3 is awesome. Wheel look M!
Use of acid wheel cleaners will also result in brakes squealing, on ceramic setups.
Were they like that from day one.
I Never use wheel cleaners on my ceramics that's asking for trouble... Started squealing after track time
Just a word of warning. Carpro iron X is the best and safest wheel cleaner.
AMMO sticker!
The more i look at the wheels the more i kind of like them lol, they look great in the rolling shot in my opinion and arent they the ones on the M4 GTS ?
oh hell yea
Completely disagree regarding the CCBs. maybe his are mushy from track use but mine are much different than the standard brakes. I owned a 2015 with regular brakes and now a 2016, huge difference in stopping performance. Also, mine don't speak at all, they are quiet as a mouse, I have 7k miles on my 2016, no squeaking. The pedal feel is more stiff and sensitive with my CCBs and they stop like nothing I've ever experienced.
Your experience is surely jaded and not accurate, I find them worth it for different reasons as I don't track my car, for instance, try keeping those satan wheels clean with the standard brakes......
The only issue I have with the CCBs is that when wet they tend to lose braking power until the water is evaporated and they bite down, yes Ive driven in the rain and have to adjust my braking but they still work.
Otherwise, great review.
You're not driving them hard enough! Lol as soon as you beat the crap out of the CCBs they make tons of noise.
lol 145mph on the straight doesn't make it a "tight technical track"... I've only gotten slightly faster than that in my M3 at COTA and Nat'l Corvette museum (max-straight configuration), and at Memphis international which uses a drag strip for a lot of the straight.... 145 is still pretty darn quick in a short distance speaking of tracks! I think Sonoma is only like 120 or 130mph tops. Laguna Seca is only like 120-130ish and LS isn't really a "tight, technical" track. sorry - i'm nit-picking. nice driving anyway, you clearly do know how to drive :)
Hi Nick, are you sure that Kyle has the M performance exhaust? It looks stock with the black tips. The optional titanium M performance exhaust is something else... :)
No I messed up he has the ZCP exhaust
See how he feels when the CCBs need replaced after 5 trackdays! Overrated unless you have money to spend freely. Nice review guys!
Nick; I'd be interested to know the actual cost to manufacture and sell, after engineering the carbo brakes. How much is hardware? How much is pure snooty profit?
Lmao this dude put his dog in that other guy’s m3
Interesting about the suspension, its not an M3 / M4 difference is it?
Nick do you find the comfort is softer in the Competition Package because it's an M3 ? Or Are you confident the M4 Competition Package would also be Softer than stock M4? Ps your dog is the coolest 👍🏻 Keep up the great work your Videos are Done so Professional. Ps Ps still challenged with buying decision M3 or M4 I did see your video on M3 vs M4 but still not sure any other thoughts ?😚
I have the Competition M4 and the comfort is softer than regular M4
Kaveh Hedayatzadeh
Thanks for the help on that your input is appreciated let me know your thoughts you have on M3 versus M4
The M3 must be so much easier to live with but I find the M4 to be far more beautiful but that is just me.
+Nick Murray
Thanks for your input
Hi Nick, was hoping to see a side by side drive to compare performance...you did drive each others cars...any reason why you didn't record a quick comparison?
Well they drive the same on the whole, the handling on CP car is a little tweaked but there is not way we could show that in the video.
+Nick Murray fair point...as for Ceramic brakes...I was chatting to a BMW worker at the BMW Pga Golf event recently where they had an M4 GTS displayed. He mentioned that the CC brakes did outlast standard brakes nearly 3x over after heavy track and demo use of the GTS. Which kind of makes me think the advantage for a road user is the replacement of pads/discs would be far less frequent of the standard brakes.
I love them
The wheels and the seatbelt stitching are so sexy
so performance/racing wise do u get better results with a manual (stick shift) or automatic? or using them paddle shifters?
nick, what do you think about the passive suspension setup on the m4? does it ride much harsher than sport or sport+ with the adaptive ?
As I know the disc grinding sound can be fix by adding break glue, most of the shop would tell you replace disc, because that's more profitable to them
And I did some research and I found this, I don't know if this would help ( hopefully)
at least it's a source
www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a3092/4317748/
When i was test driving the M4 and M3 each one felt in some way different than the other. One M3 the suspension felt Ultra stiff and didn't have the suspension adjust and the other felt very soft even in Sport Plus mode. So doesn't surprise me about these 2 cars feeling different.
Hey Neck - you have a sticker of Pinocchio on your car. Also - any chance of some Wagner in an upcoming video? Re the M-diff, any difference to yours? Pardon the unintentionally intentional pun.
yes to the Wagner, just need to find some that is not copywrite and there are differences they say but without being on a track I think it would be very hard to spot
Nice cars Nick, just can't stand the free rev.
Hi Nick, Do you often have road chips on your M4 front bumper? (The little scratches done by flying debris and rock while driving). Every time i washed my car, new scratches appeared on my front bumper, which drives me crazy. If you experience the same, how do you solve the problem, Thanks!
No but I have the clear bra, which I think everyone should get, BMW paint is so soft it is hopeless without it.
Nick would the fact that its a 4 door affect the comfort at all?
I didn't get the competition package on my M3 because although I wanted the better sounding exhaust, I hate the look of the 20" wheels, hate the look of the front seats and couldn't really care about an extra 20 or so BHP on a car that already has 430 BHP.
You really do not notice the HP
I want buy those competition rims!!!
if i ever get this car i'll sell you competition package wheels... not sure how they got the ride to be more comfortable with less tire
awesome! thanks
I just got an m2 and think it would look great
Every guy that i see with a ZCP says that they were the first one's to take delivery OF a ZCP HAHA
I wonder if maybe the stiffness of your car is a result of two doors vs four? Just spitballin here
You forgot a key point, the Competition pack includes a different exhaust system;)
Did you lend your M4 to Matt Subarufan?
Do you think an M4 ZCP would be as comfortable as the M3 ZCP ?
when did you get yours Nick... I've had mine for a bit here in az.....
Am I the only one that thinks the comp package wheels look awful? Maybe if they were powder coated black, but I think the 19s on Nick's look incredible. I cannot believe those are what the M division landed on for a comp package.
You should get a tune for your m4. Way faster. begin begin, more fun
Porsche. There is no substitute.