These Beauty Brands are in HUGE Trouble! | BEAUTIFUL and BOTHERED | Ep. 54
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2024
- On this week’s episode of Beautiful and Bothered, Johnny and Kevin bring you Part 2 of exposing makeup brands in their flop eras! From NARS, MAC, and Colourpop, they discuss how these brands have fallen from their once exciting and innovative pedestals in the world of beauty!
They also discuss the rapid decline of Smashbox Cosmetics, Makeup Revolution's Junky reputation, and Clinique's NEVER-changing and redundant brand image!
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You both have me excited for a 90s Mac collection that doesn’t even exist !! 🖤
I’m obsessed that you’re on here showing love to the boys. I actually discovered Johnny Ross because of your interview!! Hugs! x
Omg Kevin’s face when he was talking about someone needing to come along and do what old school MAC did, I was screaming
Right???? Mac please hear the prayers
Even better would be later 8”S! Lol
@@kiki29073 I was looking at an 80s hooded blouse by Trigère and thinking how very MAC its shade of red looked!
Estée Lauder owns NARS, MAC, Smashbox, The Ordinary, Bobbie Brown, Clinique, Too Faced, etc & bought them all up because of the success & uniqueness of their products but is now destroying the individuality of them all. That’s really the issue.
That must mean that they have all the original patents. If they do, they can go back to the tried and true "vintage" formulas. I love their idea of doing a 90's collection! I know it went out of fashion but I love that matte blue you saw everywhere in the 90's. I'd buy that in a heartbeat!
Thanks for the education!
Kiss of death for any creativity. Estée Lauder is where companies go to die.
Estee Lauder is awful. Not cruelty free. There are so many solid cruelty free brands out there.
@@mariearteaga3056unfortunately this doesn’t happen because of ingredient availability. Makeup pigments have to be made or mined, and sometimes there’s none left, at least that’s what I remember from researching this a few years ago.
As someone who was a twilight fan, I think colorpop was trying to capitalize on a twilight renaissance that was happening last year but the trend passed before they could get the product out.
Yes! Definitely
Sad, but true! 😢
Well it was a success, the collection sold out in a few hours….🤷♀️
The way I've been watching them straight for a year without missing a episode is a example how good these two are
Thank you for the support, you have no idea what it means!
Yesss girly yesss
@@beautifulandbothered Ahhhhh I can't believe y'all replied but thank you for being just amazing people
Me too!!!!!!!
I must have bought Smashbox
Right b4 it changed hands
The eyeshadow colors I have
Are golds + coppers
NOW
All BEIGE + Browns
Very Sad
MAC has so much nostalgia. I can remember being a child and watching my grandma go to her bowl of lipsticks and pick out a Mac bullet usually in a deep purple color. And when I was 13, for my birthday I got to get my makeup done for the first time at a mac counter. And I got to pick out my own single eyeshadow. Ugh memories.
Nobody asked me, but I’ve been wearing glasses most of my life. Frames 2 + 4 looked so great. Get both, I‘d say. As always, thank you for brightening my day
Both look great so it would be like, what vibe do u want today? If possible, get both!
Check back soon to see what I got!!
I think Johnny needs to be the creative director at MAC! You have the best ideas.
Agree! I too would go feral 🤣🤣 but they need to go cruelty free first🙄
I REALLY hope the Beauty Industry is listening to you both !!
Manifesting it!!
Clinique was the 80’s high schooler skin care from a department store. It was not the heavy make up of our mothers but lighter (colored water) weight “foundation”. It was “the” upscale department store line that addressed breakouts and oil control for teens. Everyone had their three step face cleanser regimen. None of it worked for those of that had oily skin.
I fully remember this!
I used to work for Clinique and I love most of their products still. It annoyed me when young girls works come in and say it’s for old people. I’m not old damn it 😆
I was too poor, like Johnny, ...or maybe I was more impoverished because I had to do "Sea Breeze " instead.
I had the green soap. Oh and I used Sea Breeze too. 😃
That toner was as bad as Sea Breeze
I haven’t been able to stop saying “we’re having weather” because of you two
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️
Much weather!
(It was also a quick joke in 30 Rock. Love both 💗)
🤣⛅🌤🌧🌩
You gotta watch the original Trixie and Katya clip. You’ll enjoy it even more 😂
Kevin's boo boo has recently entered my vocabulary. Though I think it works better when he says it.
I hope we can get a part 3 that touches on the fall of certain brands or previous flop eras that have happened before rather than just the ones that are happening right now.
It would be interesting to see if there is a pattern or warning signs that indicate things are about to fall apart for a brand
🤔
Sometimes you can tell when a brand's mainstay products start showing up at TJMaxx, Marshalls, etc. in popular colors.
For Johnny's glasses: #2 & #4 are the best. #5 = "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night"
For the Oscars: Johnny and Kevin dish on makeup, HauteLeMode on fashion and Brad Mondo on hair! Dream Team❤
I agree. All the power gays uniting for the better good.
Funny how Joan Rivers created her own niche, and how badly she is missed now.
Plsssssss!!!!
You only need one more to make a new actually Fab 5, that aren't sexually harassing each other or getting cancelled lol. Maybe James Welsh for skincare? Or an interior designer?
Kevin and Johnny are Kenough for me!
I'm 31 F. Before I was allowed to wear makeup when I was younger, my mom took me to the Clinique counter for the 3-step system! You're spot on 😂
Mine too. I am 54. At age 12. Only thing I like right now is this mascara that Erin Parson's recommended-and it is good. High Impact.
@@manimaniboobooHigh Impact & Lash Power are still some of my fave mascaras! For so long, for anyone with allergies, sensitive skin or wore contacts…Clinique mascara was it. (Literally it - high end & drugstore offered noooothing comparable.) Lashes look good, no flaking, easy to remove AND no irritation?! Yes plz.
My mom took me to get foundation when they had the gift with purchase promotion. The foundation made my face itch like crazy but I thought that was normal. And Happy perfume still turns sour on me. Took me forever to realize that different makeup brands have different formulas and I could find stuff that actually worked
I’m 53 and I’m curious, when was Clinique not in it’s flop era?😊
This is quickly becoming my favorite podcast on CZcams. Would love too see the opposite version of this video. What brands do you guys think are in their “renaissance era” or are “only going up”.
As a 50 year old makeup loving woman who loved MAC throughout the 90s, you're geniuses! If MAC doesn't follow this and hire you two as a creative team, they really are just being lazy.
On that same note, the nostalgia! I remember shopping with my cousin and buying the newest MAC color stories in the 90s.
I remember being afraid to go up to the MAC counter at MACY’s because I assumed I wasn’t “cool” enough. 🤣
Option 2! I think Option 4 looked a bit too nerdy 1960s, but Option 2 makes you look sophisticated and smart, but also still approachable and just with it, like you totally have your shit together.
This!! 2 was just gorgeous and sophisticated on him.
BTW, number 2, Johnny!
Agree. 2 looked great
I liked 2 an 4...
I agree with #2
The Clinique heyday was in the 70's and 80's and was skincare because it was numbered for different issues. It was basically the first targeted issue product.
I wasn't a makeup person until the pandemic but I loved MAC and would try on the lipsticks (they were 10 dollars CAD back then). I was so excited with the original Viva Glam with RuPaul!
Those Viva Glam lipsticks were amaaaaazing back in the day! Ru Paul's was sooo good.
Yes! Clinique was the only affordable non drugstore product for me in high school.
Not me sitting at work, which is dead, rolling silverware, just blaring this across the dinning room 😂
Yessss diva!! Hang in there with that silverware!!
@beautifulandbothered I sure did and I forgot to mention, it's my birthday too!!!
I was a roll-up Queen in my restaurant days!! 😂😂😂😂👑👑👑 And Happy Birthday to you 🎂
Church is in people. This week's podcast will be paired with a cheeky red from Aldi.
Church is in! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😊🎊
Love this for you
Wet &Wild.."one collab away from being on a registry"..Haha.. so true. The Chester the Molester collab or Gary the groomer skin care..so awful. Great vid. Thanks B&B 😊
❤ We need a mental health & self care episode ❤ (if you feel confortable with it!) 'Cause we all are kinda having weather 😅 aren't we? 😂
Yes, we do! 🫶🏻🙌🏻
Beauty can be self care. It can boost mental health if used gently. Great idea!
I'm so shocked you didn't like the clicky concealer/foundation pen from MAC! Every time I wear it I get compliments on my skin because it looks so flawless. Also, I wish Nars would lower their prices. I would buy so much more if they weren't ridiculously expensive.
What primer do u use I gotta give it a shot
Kevin looks extra STUNNING 🤩 TODAY! I’m obsessed 😍
My Sunday just got better , listening/ watching while I clean my place 😊
Happy cleaning!!
I think its also hard for those brands to stay afloat bc not only is good affordable makeup available everywhere but now more than ever you can get makeup and skincare from all over the world
Such an over-saturated market!
Listen, my mom and I in the mid-90s... Clinique was one of the VERY few mid price ranges that had foundation shades deep enough for us. Also, I still have " The 3 Step" set in my makeup room lol. As relics lol
Another great esp!!❤❤
Thanks for watching!!
I am a beauty advisor and I absolutely love getting ready for work and watching your videos while I do so thank you for the great content
Thanks for watching! Tell a friend!
Y'all hit this one with perfection! The Emily needs and Emily wants pallet were the last thing I ever bought from revolution. Her pallets were great. But revolution just sucks now. They're in some financial trouble with the brand owners now.
I had the Emily wants and thought the shadows were dusty and chalky . Gave it to my 4 yo yo play with
Loving your Clinique stories. That was the brand I started with... my first skin care, my first foundation, etc. I was still using their foundation until two years ago when it just started looking terrible on me, but I still like their lipstick and a couple of their fragrances. Unfortunately, they'd created a skin cream that I loved, but they discontinued it the very next year. I was like, What? Since then I've been reluctant to use any of their products because they would just create and discontinue, telling me to purchase a more expensive replacement item instead. I may have to try out a couple of those new lipsticks though.
Omg kevin obsessed with this hair
Let’s sign a petition for your idea with oldschool Mac 90s Makeup! Supermodel x Erin Parsons x Kevyn Aucoin Collection. I’d buy everything in a Heartbeat ❤️🔥
ITS SUNDAAAAY!🎉
BEST part of my week! As a newly single mother, I love to watch you two as my daugther is sleeping and I have a "me time" and relax ❤
Yesssss mama!! Love the support 😀🥰
At this point they've spent 1 hours just talking about Clinique Black Honey Almost Lipstick.
Keep up the good work
Lmao thanks for the support 😘
I was obsessed with Mac, then they did a collection with Kelly Osbourne and I was shocked, it suddenly ruined the brand for me. Then they discontinue staples i've relied on since the 90's. DONE WITH THEM.
I have to say both your channels are 2 of the best I watch there is no bull your cut throat about products that's what the beauty community needs love you both never change xx
Thank you for the support mama!!
I work every Sunday at Ulta and it makes me so happy when I take my break and you’ve dropped a vid!! Y’all make my day so happy!!!
Johnny-definitely the second pair of glasses
Kevin-I’m with you: keep the politics out of awards shows
Love you both ❤❤
I was so excited to see this is part two of brands in their flop era! Part one was iconic and I can tell just based on this intro that this will episode will be just as iconic!
We got you!!
Girl, I was waiting for Clinique and MAC in the last episode😭 I love these two♥️ only 2 people I trust in makeup
Mhmmmm!
Totally agree with Kevin's assessment on the frames. #2 was my fave on you. Thank you for another great episode! I want to have cocktails with you two so much. ❤
one of the few things that gets me through the week is knowing on sunday I can listen to this amazing podcast!!
I need someone to compile a list of johnny and kevins shopping reccomendations for their favorites for every single category that us loyal followers can reference when shopping! I would LOVE that!
Hahaha I was with y'all about Colourpop until you said we don't need another star wars collab! I'm always down for star wars makeup collabs. I will say, I do love their super shock cheek products, their ceme gel liners, and their super shock shadows.
I honestly think Colourpop could do amazing things if they slowed down with their releases.
I'm not sure if I feel clinique is in their flop Era because they still produce really nice products and they're still big with the older Beauty community.
Also, definitely glasses frame number 2 was what looked best on you and your face shape.
I'm loving your shirt colors today, gents! Johnny's green and Kevin's pink are perfection. Kevin, you nailed your critique of Johnny's frame selection. I hope he can get the top two.
Check back soon!!
The only product I ever liked from Clinique was the lip exfoliator. It was amazing for getting rid of dry, cracked lips. Their lipsticks were like crayons, lol. That was back in the 80s. I hope the new ones are better
Clinique the only thing I have nostalgia for is the perfume happy
yesss! I forgot yesterday that it was Saturday and hyped myself up for a new episode and I was SO MAD at myself! this is truly one of the things that makes the weekend great for me :)
We got you!!
Yes girl agree!
OK but to be fair, there has been a Twilight Renaissance happening lately online in places like tumblr, so a Colourpop Twilight collection is surprisingly timely, and last I checked, it sold out instantly
My absolute favorite time of a Sunday!
Love you!
You know it's bad when the only time you see a Smashbox display is at the Estee Lauder warehouse sale. Also, what ever happened to Lorac?
No deference to Erin Parsons who is AMAZING- but the original MAC lipstick packaging was a black metal bullet w/an embossed silver band in the center that said MAC. I worked at Henri Bendel in the 90’s when it was the only retail outlet where you could buy MAC. The silver packaging was later. I remember when they launched the shades “Twiggy” & “Verushka” and then had to change “Twiggy” to “Twig” because she sued them. Twig has been my ride or die for 30 years & can report it’s not the same. Just like Spice it’s not as cool-toned anymore. Velvet Teddy is more what Twig used to be. Also… Verushka was the most stunning deep purple-red & they discontinued it ages ago and I’ve been searching for a dupe forever.
Preach it, Kevin! I'm so sick of politics infusing absolutely everything. Just entertain us with what the show is actually supposed to be about. You are 100% SPOT ON!!!
Well you both have another fan in me!! If you see an increase in your views, it's all me, all of it, yup. I have being watching all your episodes in less than a week!! Where was I this past year?? You both are so genuine, honest, funny as hell, with these wonderous minds and illuminating souls! From the bottom of the heart of this young fifty y/o girl THANK YOU! Love from Toronto Canada ❤️ 🇨🇦
Aren't they fantastic?!! And they just get better! Welcome to the club!
Yesssss welcome to the party mama!
@beautifulandbothered grateful to have found you! Hands down, best of the best souls in the beauty community 🥰🥰🥰
@stephanieswilley-arnold6886 OMG!! Amazing and funny, honest and kind, such a gorgeous minds!!
I'm in wales uk and it feels like we're in the middle of a storm Gail force wind the rain is so heavy you can't see through it your video is what I need today always makes me happy your banter is brilliant xx
I just thought I would say hello from South Wales, it is very loud outside and being in bed snuggled up with my cat and watching this video helps me to ignore the weather.
Enjoy mama
Gales in Wales? Be safe
I would LOSE MY MIND if M•A•C brought back their OG shiz!
With the Estée Lauder subsidiaries in makeup; it seems to me & by all means please correct me if I’m wrong; are they buying up all these small makeup companies to slowly & painfully destroy them? 28:44
50:38 The discussion of poorly made clothing really hit a nerve with me. The lack of quality clothes hurts me deeply. I’m going to pull out my 32 year old Pfaff sewing machine & make my clothes again! Sadly, the patterns are outrageously expensive & the fabrics are so thin, scratchy. I’m so very unhappy!
1:03:58 How far do y’all want to go back, guys? My late mother used Charles of the Ritz.
For me, Clinique was my first non-drugstore makeup and skincare. It felt like it was for “young” people, the other brands were for rich older ladies. I loved the Happy perfume. And I was tickled pink when I got that free gift with purchase!
Before Clinique my skincare was St Ives apricot scrub before bathing, Noxema in the shower, and then Seabreeze afterwards . My poor skin!
I cringe because I used the same scrub and acid on my face and I feel the burn! That Clinique free gift was always a hideous red lipstick, though. I gave it to Mom and she put it with the Halloween makeup where it belonged.
Just thinking about Seabreeze is making my face burn!!!! I used the apricot face scrub stuff too. It really is amazing we all have any skin left!
For the glasses I hope you stick with #2 AND #4, then you can switch styles when you want!
Lots of love from Mexico! 💚🤍❤️
Love you back!!
Wet n Wild is one collection away from going on a registry 🤣🤣🤣. Good one!
Always so happy to see you two on Sunday❤ We're definitely having weather in the midwest 😂
Stay warm diva!
I switched hairdressers not long ago, and she asked if I'd ever gone for a full brown lip. I remember the MAC and UD lips I pooh-poohed years ago in my brighr reds only era, and I *yearn* for those 90's browns back!
That twilight collection sold out in under 5 mins 😂I really enjoy the pretty foundation and the super shock cheeks are so good. I’m surprised y’all didn’t mention the Sims collection from Mac!
I just wanted to let you both know that a big reason of why Nars is discontinuing things left, and right is because they were bought by Sheisedo. As soon as I opened my Kohl’s Sephora stores, we had to take the OG Nars products off the shelf and send them back to Estée Lauder. I was nervous, because I remember when they took over bare minerals the products really went downhill. The shade range has slightly changed as well. It’s not as reliable anymore.
Had fun with this episode... Lots of nostalgia. Teal mascara with matching eyeliner. Smashbox eye kits... And Color Pop over saturated themselves.... With something new every three weeks.
"I roll up my windows, it's a bad neighborhood!" Oh my God I died!!!
I can listen to Kevin and Johnny talk all day and night. I can never get tired of their voices 😊
Kevin! This foundation is gorgina on the color match! I'm dying to know more about these 2 foundations, y'all look gorgeous!
At this point I am BEGGING for a makeup line from you two , we all know it will be the best in the game
#2 for sure!! Also, I have a pair of those “dirty” glasses…they suit my warm undertone more than the typical clear cool plastic…but I love that new name for them…I love my dirty glasses🤣🥰
Your use of pictures is so informative helpful and fierce. No one does it like you guys, love your passion knowledge and foresight!
You two make this young 56yr old laugh and educate me on what’s up with makeup!!! You two are awesome
You nailed the commentary on Twilight. As a late 30s mom of two, I'm not showing up to the next PTA meeting with blood red vampire lip gloss from a movie I liked in college.
I would but that's just who I am as a 36 year old mom of 2 😂
I know this comment is coming in late, but I’ve been watching your old podcasts over again and over again because I always hear something useful and I want to remember what it was (I have serious ADHD coupled with the fact I’m a GenXer, so I have some age and herbally induced issues with my memory). All that’s to say that I would REALLY love to see an episode of your podcast or a longer video on this channel where you both discuss makeup application tools. I’d like to know more about brushes, both natural and synthetic. And your favorite ones in each of the categories. I’ve spent a small fortune on Sonia G and other Fudes, but I’m so afraid that I might mess them up that I barely even use them. I have also spent lots of money on synthetic brushes from It Cosmetics and BK Beauty and MUFE. I get a lot of use out of them and mostly go through them until I’m forced to wash them. I’m also scared about using the same brush cleanser for the natural brushes.
As you can probably tell, I’m a person with a lot of questions and I am asking you both because I gotta stop listening to Michelle Wang! 😂🥴
I still have my smashbox lipstick from my wedding 8 years ago in a memory box. I would repurchase every year if the shade still existed 😢
the laugh/screech/guffaw/riff/solo moment at 24:25 has me crying. I thought a bird flew into my window (with love! You would be a gorgeous bird with a beautiful song!!!!!)
I just feel like if I had you two in my store working with me to gossip with, life would be much better! Glad I get to come home to it to hear everything that’s annoying me validated! 😄🥰
We got you mama!
You two keep me company as I work a job where I don't feel like I belong at times. Your humor and great chemistry are so refreshing and help me get throught the day! Thank you!
15:42 same reaction to Kevin's "they rode that orgasm train to the bank and back" LMAO! Subtle comedy gold right there
Ugh I’m still waiting for Colourpop to bring back their core products!!! Justice for Figgy Wit It Lux gloss
Health Kick Lux Gloss was my favorite and I'm so sad it's gone! 😭😭
Not Kevin unpacking his clinique trauma like it's therapy lol
Girl, you couldn’t be more spot on about bringing back the make up that made Mac popular! They could literally remake the George Michael video, with Mac products!!!All right girls, go call Mac right now!
The Smashbox flop era is also hurting my heart. I used to use so many products that have been discontinued. I loved their single blushes, the contour sticks, the undereye primer, and an amazing cream eyeshadow that I'm still trying to dupe. I have so much old products I can't bring myself to throw away (those large face & eye books).
I just want you to know how much I appreciate your podcast. I don’t wear makeup. I want to start but I’m in no rush. But I’m going through a really hard time right now & you have been giving me an escape I really need. Thank you. I’d love to see an episode on the best drugstore makeup for mature skin. Love you guys.
I went into the local Ulta last Saturday and the Colorpop and other displays were definitely trashy!!!
The teens and tweens regularly mess up the testers. They like to pry out the pans and leave. 🙄
I was with MAC at the beginning (before they were even in the US) and I agree. They have discontinued every color and formula that I loved. Yes brands should evolve but they lost so much of what made MAC great. I had so many OG shades, formulas, and packaging but I finally had to get rid of a lot because they were decades old. Sad😢
Hi, I just wanted to say that you two incredible people have given the beauty community and what we have desperately been looking for. All that toxicity and evilness of the last few years was draining. Thank you for exactly what you're doing. It's a welcome blast of fresh air 🎉.
Love you both ! Thanks for all your helpful hints and advice. You’ve saved me hundreds of dollars
We got you!! Tell a friend!!
as someone whose always changed my Rx frames w| my outfits, this segment excited meeeee! 😍🤩
in this order: 2, 4, 1, 5, 3.
also, Kevin is right about #3 being a great shape, not great color.
I recently fell in love with NARS bronzers lol. I’ve been a big fan of their lip products in the past, but it was because they offered more than warm nudes and reds. I have their hot pink lipstick that Kevin was taking about, and omg. I’m so glad I got it before it right before it got pulled. It’s so wonderful! Now, I don’t really look to them. I forgot how many incredible products they used to have! I wanted almost their whole line over the years! Thanks for reminding us of how great they once were!
I feel sp much better that I am not the only one who's favorite things constantly get discontinued 😭😭😭
Yay❤❤ my favorite part of the week!! Love you both😊🥰❤️
Saw this today & as a person who doesn't yet use makeup but is circling it to find my way into starting (49yo), I decided to look up the Twilight Colourpop stuff to see what it was.
What confuses me is: The collection has a palette of cool tones w/shade names that match the films. Some are very pretty. Great. Then we move to the liners, and there is this gorgeous deep red and glittery eyeliner. You guys talked about how some magazine said red eye looks were gonna be all the rage, and I thought, "Oh! This must be for that!" but there are NO red shadows to go with the red liner--not even like a glitter one--so it feels like, "Ooh, throw in a blood red one." Like...?
I was around for Twilight in my early-to-mid 30's and found it campy and bad but somehow endearing, so if I had pulled up this Twilight makeup (especially as I don't have much and nothing I buy will be "extra" or redundant duplication) and found cohesive, fun stuff in it that I could use as a "collection" together to practice making myself look fun...I would've bought it. Easy day. But even to my totally untrained eye, it looks thrown together with no thought or consideration. So why would I buy it?
I’m 41 years old and I graduated beauty school but never went any where with cosmetology for a career. Now I am a professional interior painter I work everyday and come home feeling like I wish I could have done something like you guys. I love keeping up with your Channel keep up the good work you guys make me laugh so much ❤😊😊😅😂
Gosh so excited! Wanted to watch earlier but had to go to work! Love you guys ❤❤ Glad I could come home to watch now
I love that I seem to always catch you guys within fifteen minutes of uploading. (By chance) Cheers to a prosperous 2024 🎉
Thanks mama!
I love it when Kevin calls something disgusting!! 😊❤
I use the Clinique Smart Clinical Repair skin line and I like it.
Kevin with the glasses review just killed me, so supportive and hilarious