What's the difference between Vital and Vitalium?
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- Download Vitalium for Arch/Manjaro Linux:
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- Download Vitalium (along with other open-source plug-ins) for Windows and Mac OS:
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@@xenoidaltu601 unfastic!
People like Matt Tytel and his values are one of the most important in this world. Just like the guys behind blender, or Linux (torvalds), for example. If I ever get a substantial amount of cash, I'm gonna fatten his bank account. He really deserves it.
Matt Tytel is a legend.
Hi unfa! I suddenly realized it would be awesome if there was an FX version of Vital/Vitalium where you could use it as as an modular FX processor for audio. Something like U-he Zebrify or Unfiltered Audio Byome. Wonder if there is any free plugin like that for Linux out there?
I think Matt was working on something like this.
I had no idea Vital was even open source, that's kinda crazy. A while ago, too.
Is there a basic grand piano VST you would recommend? I used vital and looked for a grand piano preset but couldn't really find it, maybe there's one you know of?
You could use Sfizz with a Grand Piano SFZ instrument. There's a few great ones under permissive licenses. Look at the Quick Links section at the bottom here: sfz.tools/sfizz/
(Where) can I change the keybinds within vital(ium)?
I am using a qwertz Keyboard, but vital ist optimized for qwerty.
Wow, they're like serum but on linux. Exciting stuff. Thanks for spreading the word
Yes! Some say it's even better!
What a time to be alive!
does this work on raspberry pi os or debian? im unable to launch it directly or install it. what setups are people using this successfully on? any raspberry pi users?
Here, using Debian Sid with Ardour 6.9 official binaries, only Vitalium works. Vital never load in the Ardour session, so I just use it to make some presets in the standalone version and then export to Vitalium.
I have the same problem using Pop!_OS 21.04 Ardour 6.9 only Vitalium works but Vital works in standalone version.
Holy s***! Didn't know VSCodium was a thing... 😅
Thx for spreading the word 🧡
Glad Icould help :D
Hi unfa!...
First: I really appreciate all your work! Honestly, using Linux for music production is possible thanks to people like you!...
Second: in one of your older videos you somewhat stated that Zyn-Fusion is pratically the best (the most complete) synth we have access to when talking about free software...
But, at the present time, do you think things are changed?...
What do you think is the best softsynth at the moment?...
(Maybe an idea for a new video: "5 best linux synthesizers")
Thanks!
Yes, that was true at the time, but things have changed a lot since then. I personally mostly use Surge, Geonkick and Vitalium nowadays. A top 5 FOSS synthesizer plugins is a good idea that I've had in my mind - thanks for suggesting that!
@@unfa00
Thanks for your answer!...
I've been using mostly Zyn-Fusion till now; but, out of curiosity, I've just tried OB-Xd and, even if somewhat "simple", I really liked it (I find it "warm sounding")...
So, considering that, and also these recent videos, I wondered if I was missing other important options (and it seems so); I'll surely try those three you mentioned (and others)...
What would be cool, if you'll ever do a video regarding your favourite Linux synths, would be the mention at what you think every one excels at, what can be a good "musical purpose" for those different synths...
Thanks again and good luck for everything!...
@@TheStefanTube hi, is ob-xd free and open source? Also, there are two OB-XD plugins, which one of them are you talking about? Thank you
@@georgekefalas1703 Hi!... I don't know why but my answer to you, that I wrote 4 months ago, has disappeared...
I think that OB-XD is free and open source (in the github page you can see the license); and, by the way, I'm aware of only one OB-XD plugin: the one that, for example, is preinstalled in the distribution (AVLinux) I'm using...
can vitalium work on windows it only installs a non vst format
Hi Unfa, now here you really surprised me. I mean how cool is that?? I love Vital!!! Even Vital was shining example for free crossplattform support plug-in. Now these guys take the effort and reimplement and maintain all this for community which is absolutely fantastic. I have to check it out definitely! Thumbs up!!
I wonder if Text to Wavetable could be implemented using an open-source TTS engine.
Surely it could be, but falkTX has a lot on his plate, so someone would have to step up and take on the challenge.
I tried vital before switching to Linux, and was sad to lose that in my ready set on Linux. But knowing the og code is FOSS is really great to me. If you want to do a pure commercial product, it's your right. But to allow a FOSS option to thrive on the side is fantastic.
I wonder why he didn't use the code from Helm to add functionality in Jack.
how can I get the plugin working in LMMS?
I think you can use the Carla Rack instrument to load it in.
I installed Vitalium when you first recommend it, but on Debian and now Manjaro, I choose a preset, record some MIDI, save, exit Ardour, go back into Ardour, load my song and it's forgotten the preset I chose and uses the default one. Only have one track using Vitalium, but reluctant to add more tracks using this otherwise excellent synth. Is this a known bug? Or maybe me going into stupid mode? 😁
Hey! This definitely should not happen. It must be a technical issue. What version of Ardour are you using? Are you running LV2 or VST version of Vitalium?
Stuff like this has happened to me very rarely, but I did loose some Zyn and Geonkick patches this way.
If you need more help, it's a good idea to join my community chat - there's a lot of great people there who can help when I'm not available :)
chat.unfa.xyz
Thanks Unfa! I'll ask this on the chat. Don't stop being awesome!
has this been maintained these years? is it kinda on par with vital 1.5.5?
I haven't seen a source code update from Vital, so Vitalium is just maintained to be functional, and it works. If you'd like to help get Vitalium updated, ask Matt Tytel when is the source code update coming :D
Latest versions of Vital are no longer working on Windows 7. Does Vitalium support Win7?
Is there a way to install Vitalium on Fedora, I'm new to linux and have no clue what to do with the info in the links.
I'd recommend you ask this in my community chat (there's a #help channel for stuff like this). The lovely people out there will lend you a hand :)
chat.unfa.xyz
Does Vitalium still exist? I'm having a hard time finding anywhere from which to download it
The links are in the video description :)
@@unfa00 Aha, thank you
Any plans on adding any new FX? Maybe some 18dB filters and more saturation varieties?
Vitalium is not actively developed, just maintained. At some point when (if) Matt releases updated source code we'll probably see Vitalium update as well, but I think it also makes sense to keep it backwards-compatible with Vital.
Does Vitalium work on the Raspberry Pi?
First. Wow. Finally! I need to tell this to my mum. She will be so proud of me!!!!!
_Deam, Son!_
So does falkTX or others have a roadmap for Vitalium? New features that don't exist yet in Vital?
I don't think so. I think falkTX doesn't have enough time to work on it, as he's managing a whole collection of software. And I guess just diving into the code and understanding it would be a large task.
Where can i download Vitalium?
Check the video description.
how the heck do i install vitalium to endeavouros im new to arch lol
Any plans for a Mac version of Vitalium? Thx!
Check the video description :)
@@unfa00 Thanks for adding Mac!
@@LuisTorres-qz5kr Yeah, I checked and there's both Windows and Mac versions there, I just was asked about Windows before, so I've now corrected :)
@@unfa00 Thx!
I have never heard of Vitalium. Vitalium is a modded Vital? That's weird. Do they sound the same? Or is only the green chaged to orange and different name?
Vitalium is a community-maintained version of Vital base on the official source code release.
In this very video I explain all the differences, did you watch it?
I don’t get the use case for Vitalium, is it only the offline feature that people find valuable???
You might want to use Vitalium over Vital if you're a crazy open-source maniac like me :)
Or like many of people watching this channel and dwelling in my community chat: chat.unfa.xyz
0:31 "Vital was created by Matt ... Tytel ..." *looks confused like thinking "wait, that rhymes. Did he name it Vital just to rhyme with his last name?"*
im verfy interested in manipulating samples on SFZ format sfizz and generating sound synthesis
SFX is a very interesting topic - I have it somewhere in the back of my mind. I could do a basic video about it sometime.
@@unfa00 wonder if SFZ sfizz can do something like Samplv1 - sample offset and how it can synthesize sounds using generators
When the video on Bespoke coming?. :]
I'm preparing for it, stand by :)
I dear to ask... does Vitalium work on windows? :)
That is a very good question. I am not using Windows myself so I don't know. The codebase is almost the same, so it's definitely possible to compile Vitalium for WIndows, I just don't know if anyone has done it.
@@unfa00 Ah ok. Thanks for the info.
It is possible to compile Vitalium for Windows. You can also maybe find some Windows 64x builds of Vitalium floating around in the LMMS discord server.
Why would I use Vitalium over Vital, which has more features and presets?
Mostly for ideological reasons, or if you wanted to be sure the software isn't calling home and doesn't rely on any remote services. Vitalium is untethered, but also - nobody can take it away from you. Vital could theoretically for examplechange it's licensing terms and require a subscription to use again - with Vitalium that's not possibile, because all networking was cut out. Companies like Autodesk and Adobe do this kind of stuff - I think Matt Tytel would never do this, but I stick to Vitalium on principle of not depending on stuff I can't have full control over.
@@unfa00 is this project still ongoing, most of the links youve shown show last updates years ago???
"Logo design by Unfa"
Good thing you included your name in that logo splash, otherwise no one would ever know 😂
falkTX decided to credit me :D
The cat is out of the bag at this point now.
top! the logo is nice too... just the outlines are a µm to dominant i think on my 14" ...this is the bridge to the vital logo i think . how it is is it god too.... but.... :-D
or you only scale it complet ...
All the download links are for Debian. No Windows version yet ?
I am not aware of any Windows builds of Vitalium.
@@unfa00 Talk about some discrimination extreme on Windows. Everybody hates Windows now ? Is it possible to compile it from source code in Windows 10 ?
@@lucian6172 I think if you're ok with using Windows, you shouldn't have a problem using Vital instead of Vitalium. Vitalium exists mostly for software freedom freaks like myself. Regardless - I am sure you can compile Vitalium for/on Windows, as it's pretty much the same code as Vital. I just don't know anybody who cared to do that yet, because the software freedom freaks usually have already moved away from Windows or Mac.
Maybe someone in my community chat could help you? There's quite a few software developers in there among regular noise makers :)
chat.unfa.xyz
I've just asked on my community chat and looks like there's some cross-platform build scripts and Vitalium is included: github.com/DISTRHO/PawPaw/blob/4419161d45c27f3e3071daaad55c3d6e217b7b4c/plugins/distrho-ports-vitalium.json
@@unfa00 I tried the free version of Vital, like a year ago, but it was overloading the CPU 10 or 20 times more than Dexed. Try the first preset. Plus, I don't like the idea of tethered synths that need a login. That's an illegal scam. I already have enough brain damage accumulated from Reason 10. And more.
Unfa if it's not to much trouble, can you ask the Vitalium maintainer(s) to approach the Void devs about including it in their repo?
You can ask Void Linux developers yourself to include Vitalium :) That's how I usually do this kind of thing.
@@unfa00 yea I plan to. I just thought you seemed close to the Vitalium devs was all. Thanks for the reply.
Damn I thought this was a new video lol. I havnt heard anything about any forks
the Vital logo is like Arch logo (A) upside down.....
Just a sidenote. You can copy the presets from vital to vitalium if you want.
Hi, how is that possible? Can you explain? That would be a lifesaver and also a huge time-saver!
@@georgekefalas6760 just copy them from the ~/.local/share/vital folder to ~/.local/share/vitalium.
@@JohnSane ok, thank you, I will try it myself! Did it work for you when you copied the Vital presets to the Vitalium folder?
@@georgekefalas6760 Yeah. Even the text-to-speech wavetable ones work in vitalium if you save them in vital as a preset.
It was possible for some time, but Vital got upgraded, and Vitalium didn't receive these changes so the binary format compatibility is broken.
vital/vitalium keeps crashing my reaper : /
I found vitalium..
I installed what I thought was Vitallium..
I’m not sure what it did. But vital is the same & nothing anywhere called vitalium.
Would love to try it as vital crashes my logic badly.
So I have had to stop using it.
I wonder if some mad lad will make a fork with an option to add oscillators or have a max of 8 so I can go full FM8 patch crazy 😁
Very exciting!
@@zxbryc it would at least blow up a computer or 2.
to be honest it's not that hard to learn CPP. I think the hard stuff would be the math for the oscillators and those fx algos.
No Vitalium in Arch or AUR repos, only Vital. Well, at least not right now 11/29/2021
Vitalium is included in distrho-ports package in official Arch repo, and I believe it has been in there since at least May 2021
Is this stretched out over ten minutes to maximize YT algorithm?
Actually no, I don't enable mid-roll ads because I hate them. So if CZcams puts them in anyway, that's not my idea.
@@unfa00 youtube being a youtube huh?
4:10 Vitalium
never mind. i will not use them. i have to many softsynth. zyn sounds amazing
Whatever works for you :)
Sine wave should be enough for anyone
@@Laborejo
Fourier transform
Enough of sine wave should be enough for anything.
It's a shame the source release turned out to be a one-and-done affair. Last meaningful push was two years ago.
Matt has publicly stated that he will update the source at some point, but it hasn't happened.
Even if he doesn't - he's given us an amazing gift, and he deserves our thanks :)
He owes us nothing, and Vitalium even if not updated is an amazing instrument.
A bit of a weird video, so much talking and I still dont know what is the point of it. So Vitalium is orange instead of purple? 😆
I assume by now it also doesnt have the custom filters..
What is the point...?
The point is that Vitalium is fully open-source. That matters a lot to me and (I assume) most people watching my videos.
Yes, it is lagging behind Vital, because Matt has not released the updated source code yet.
Vitalium is also untethered to any online services which is also something people care about.
If you don't see what's the big deal, this video I made should get you up to speed:
czcams.com/video/hmacATXd0RE/video.html