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USS Cod drydock update #2- 7/16/21
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- This is 2nd update in the USS Cod in drydock. About halfway done. My comment at the end about docking in Erie for the public was incorrect. Tenetive date is 2nd week of August.
Big shoutout to Sherwin Williams paint company,for the generous donations
Wonder why they didn't metalize it with zinc/aluminum then paint? Like to know if an organic zinc primer was used over the substrate prior to the 2nd coat.
Thanks For the follow up,and thanks Sherwin William's for the donated paint.
thank you Sherwin Williams Paints
These updates are great!! Thank you!! A big thank you to Sherwin Williams for the donation of coatings and paint. I've always used their paint products and will continue to do so.
The Cod sure needed these repairs . I hope people realize she won't last forever and take advantage of touring her when they finish up . Hats off to those working on the project .
I live 20 miles from the USS Batfish, really understand the money problem. Great work you folks have done .👍👍👍💯
Excellent tour of the repairs and painting. Kudos to Sherwin-Williams for the paint donation! Great idea Doc Brown!!
Glad you liked it!
It’s so wild how beautiful these boats are out of the water. There’s something really pleasing about her lines, like the designers wanted to fulfill requirements but be sure that she looks badass. Of course requirements change and we get the modern cigar shape, but there’s just something special about subs of this vintage, worldwide really. Great work, my hat’s off to you guys.
Indeed, yet when a battleship is in drydock, instead of lines its, oh dear mother of mercy that thing is huge.
It was literally a "diving boat" so it still had the customary knife edge bow and sleek racy lines before they discovered a bulbous shape was more hydrodynamic and efficient. These boats mostly prowled the surface and dove to avoid detection and to attack. Much more endurance and speed on the surface with the diesels running
@@Hjerte_Verke - It’s funny how one can know all this what you say and even so be surprised by a certain way of looking at things that makes so much sense. “Diving boats” is a really useful way of making sense of design decisions. Thank you.
Really interesting and cool to see, she's had some extensive work done. I worked at Toledo shipyard for 20 years, was on many jobs on Coast Guard cutters, the old Boblo boats, and the Libery ship John W. Brown. Love the old military vessel's, thank you for sharing!
I live in Elyria, Ohio. I've been through the entire ship. As I entered the ship, my claustrophobic feelings manifested, despite only 15 - 20 people touring on the sub at the Cleveland Ohio Dock. The confines are quite tight.
Had the same thought as Doc Brown on here.... Take some of the pieces and cut them into say 1" by 3" sections, stamp them with USS COD SS224 - XXXXX where X = sequential serial numbers and print up a Certificate of Authenticity and sell them for like $25 or so to help fund the repairs....
Thanks for the vid... it's always nice to see history being saved and not destroyed
Semper Fi
Why don't they sell pieces of the cut out steel as a fund Raiser?
I have a piece of steel that I got from the president of the card association two years ago it from coning tower
That was my thought! It would be great as a fundraiser and would give people a great souvenir
@@BeatlesUS99 I hate to say it but they probably will not do it and waste a good fundraiser.
@@docbrown6550 Thing is, it's pre-Atomic age "Low Background Steel" That can be worth practically whatever you want to ask for it for use in super sensitive radiation detection equipment. Hopefully, they already have a buyer set up for it. Assuming it wasn't pre-sold as part of funding the work.
Thanks. It’s good to see these old boats. A lot of work, time, and money goes into these boats. Thanks for all you do. 👍👍👍❤️
Great to see a piece of history being restored. My Grandfather served in the U.S. Navy on SS295 USS Hackleback. Seeing this reminds me the pictures of his boat. Thank you for all the efforts!
She is beautiful, put a plus charge to the hull that is supposed to fight the rust
“Navy Coast Guard paint training program” love it!
My dad was on Silversides which I’m sure you know is in Muskegon, MI. I’d bet she needs as many repairs, if not more. I really wish there was a program to maintain all these classic ships.
Paint "trading" program, as they swap paint with another ship via bumping into it..
In the end, the Navy and USCG are friends and share paint between each other. Warms the cackles to hear that this happens.
The Battleship Texas sells metal from her work being done. Unfortunately they sell the metal for a lot of money. Way more than I can afford.
Thanls for the update, very ibteresting. I didn't quite catch who donated the paint but whoever they are thank you. I always assumed that a new block would be placed under the newly painted keel section and the original would be removed, working a long the boat one block at a time,then again most of my mechanical and civil engineering experience has mainly been on dry land. I was also unaware of the Navy's service program procedure. Keep up the good work all and thank you for assuringtheis ladies future,
Sherwin Williams donated the paint.
Interesting and informative! It's great to see the old gal getting some TLC!
Thanks for the info about the blocks and fleeting...I had a question about how the entire hull could be reached and treated with the blocks in the way and that gave me the answer.
Best of luck and thanks to all involved in preserving this piece of history.
She will never dive again, and so, I believe she should be preserved in an out of water situation. Nice for her to float till the end of time, but not likely. She would live forever in a dry situation. Especially housed in an enclosure. I am happy to see all the hull repairs. But you are talking millions. How much more for a dry enclosure that will last as long as the cycle of a good roof?.
Toured the U505 about 1981. Since then she is housed and dry.
Sub fan here. Named my business after USS Grouper, 214. My dad served on her.
Best wishes to all who appreciate the service of those who fought for our diminishing freedom.
Just like other museum ships, they are more prone to structural deformation when out of the water. New Jersey videos cover this. It’s not even wise to have an exterior encasement because of the stress it places on the underlying structural members. Best scenario is floating at anchor.
You should consider the basics. You could not be more incorrect. Most, if not all, floating objects are built on a foundation, not afloat.
Consider the term "launching".
Awesome video! Thank you to everyone that donated their time and money to do that work!
What a machine! God bless you all for saving her.
Epoxy works very well. I have a 38 foot steel sloop. Sandblasted her and put on 4 coats of epoxy, alternating grey and white to see if I missed any spots. Been in the water now for 4 seasons, and the epoxy is still mint. The anti-fouling keeps the zebra mussels off, only place I get them is the prop and the anodes.
Oooh! Sell me a piece of the Cod! I'm a scale model builder and I can think of several uses for that vintage steel!
Get some craftsmen involved and make various Cod trinkets to sell at the museum to help pay for upkeep!
We have a WW2 submarine in Galveston, Texas that needs a lot of work.
No matter what your thoughts are on WW2, it is part of our history and to see some of this history come to live to be viewed by generations of people who may not know much or anything about it, is amazing. Well done and all the best.
Love the trading program .Thanks again for doing these .I greatly appreciate you and all those tending this Lady.May we all be blessed.
Some of the new clad epoxy hull paints last 40 years, the antifouling paints last 30 yrs. I worked at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. I was in board the Cod in 2007.
This is really cool. Thanks for sharing. We sail in Cleveland and love checking out the USS Cod.
I live in Erie and would LOVE to come visit when it all gets done. Thanks for the updates
Great work and you do a really fine job of making these videos.
It just looks really satisfying to see the new steel and new paint.
I understand that you guys are doing absolutely fantastic work. Though having grown up at Mare island and having relatives that have worked on these in the war, it just strikes me as a bit ironic to think that during the war, she could have had all this work done in less than a week. The battle damage repair they did on these boats during the war was almost impossible to think about now. Thanks for all this work!
I agree with the comments! Cut it up into pieces and have a fundraiser. I'm sure you can fit a few boxes below decks to hold any that don't sell right away!
This is a great update! Can't wait to see her when finished, right before she is refloated.
Thanks for the tour update…see you in Cleveland.
Thank you for the update!
Can you sell pieces of hull metal that's been removed as a fundraiser? Similar to the New Jersey selling the teak deck pieces that are sold on line?
ETA: It appears great minds think alike! 👍🙂
that pre atomic steel you cut out is valuable
Incredible workmanship taking place right here, by passionate and skilled craftsman. Thanks for sharing these videos. That crash was not good. Saw that too. "It'll buff out!" LOL
Fond memories of gradeschool field trips to take a tour of the USS Cod
JT
Orlando, FLA
Would love to buy a 2x4" piece of hull material from a real warfighter. I am willing to bet that you could raise a lot of money with just a few hours of cutting.
That`s a good idea.
They use that kind of steel to make razor blades. I would buy a piece of scrap and make a hunting knife!!
@@mechanicman8687 Not anymore, that stuff was made before atmospheric radiation fallout from atomic testing. They use that stuff for making super sensitive radiation detectors now. Worth a lot more per ton than razor steel.
Looking good! Can't wait to go see her again up in Cleveland.
Actually, fuel is lighter than water. So, to avoid having air replacing the fuel tank as it is burned, the tanks were fill with sea water. The water was flushed when space needed in the tank. That is what I understood from submarine operation.
Thank you for the wonderful tour. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for what you're doing for Dad's boat.
Thanks for the update. Toured the Cod a while back. I’ll need to plan again next time I’m in Cleveland. Curious if you’ve ever seen the USS Slater (Destroyer Escort) in Albany, NY. It underwent repairs in NYC last year.
You gonna have to do a series of tours once she’s back at the dock
The scrap steel is very valuable. Folks that make scanners need steel that was made before the first and subsequent atmospheric nuclear explosions.
You could machine a watch case from that steel, imagine having a watch made from a submarine.
I am a machinist...I own manual and cnc...I would gladly do it
Looking forward to the next one
Going back to the Treaty of 1818 and the Rush/Bagot Treaty, between the US and GB, the US/CA border has been demilitarized. It is the longest such border in the world. Rendering ships such as the USS Cod inert allows the treaty to remain in effect, since the treaty includes the Great Lakes. Peace between the US and CA for over 200 years. Nice.
A true labour of love. Thank you, you ladies and gentlemen who tend this great ,,boat". And a ¡gracias! for sharing this appreciated update with us. 🇺🇸🇺🇸💞😎
After all the resto work I think I would permanently dry dock it above ground so people could tour it and see the entire boat.
U.S. Navy doesn't divest itself of operational warships (that aren't transferred to other maritime powers) because some nutnick would use them for no-good. (Hence the screw and armament restrictions.)
According to Wikipedia, two WW2 American subs, are still in active service in foreign countries as training vessels.
Despite being old, a WW2 era submarine, could still be a very real threat to shipping and any modern navy as was the USS Catfish in the Argentine Navy (1982) Falklands War.
Agreeing with all the others, here: How much for an original piece of the hull and note and maybe a photo about where it came from? I'll do the work of making an Engineer's Ring from a bit of that.
Also: Gratitude (continuing!)
ET2(SS)
Great Video, thanks for sharing, and thanks Sherwin Williams !
Thanks for the great update! If only I was a billionaire, she would get whatever she needs to be maintained fully USN sea worthy. And also BB55 and as many WW2 ship veterans as possible.
"The Navy/Coast Guard Paint Trading Program" !!! Fantastic!
You ought to auction off or sell bits of the metal from the hull to support the sub.
We have the USS Batfish (no longer sea worthy now just on display), it could use some love. Just found your channel very interesting work. Sub'd thanks for sharing.
I would for sure buy a piece of metal as a souvenir.
Wow, beautiful how you restore all the metal inside 💯🤯❤🔥 I wish here in Bremerhaven they would take care of our U-Boot Wilhelm Bauer like you did on this one ❤💯💯💯😞😥 it's in Bad condition 😞😥
Well, it did sit on the bottom of the Baltic for 12 years. The pictures I see look good. How bad is it?
@@amigodiver it's still swimming 🤣😉 the only thing what they do is to add some fresh paint every now and then 🤣
@@stayliftedgermany4041 I would love to see it someday. I have seen U-505 in Chicago. Very cool!!!
Love your video updates. Very informative and look forward to seeing them. Thank you for all the hard work you all are doing.
Pretty damn cool, your video footage will be a historical part of the U.S.S. COD's life. Along with yourself.
I'm sure dry dock isn't cheap so I'm kind of surprised you don't have a small army attack it to keep the number of days in dry dock down?
It is run by the ship yard. We just direct
they will probably use a Belzona epoxy product or equivalent, we used that often in the maritime industry.
"Navy/Coast Guard paint-trading program" 🤣
Fantastic video. Learnt a lot . Keep up the great work!
Doc Brown ask the question I was going to ask. If you did one foot by 6 inches
Just an idea here. Why dont you cut up the hull pieces that were removed, paint them primer gray then paint the Cod logo on it and sell these pieces to help raise money? I would definitely pay some money to own a piece of a WWII submarine with the rich history of the USS Cod! Its probably too late now as this video is 2 years old but just a thought for next time.
Fantastic update! Being in Western NY, I am interested and following. I keep thinking that this boat should be displayed on land, like USS Batfish or USS Drum. It looks like they are much easier to maintain over a longer period of time. Eventually, USS Cod will need to be dry docked again, and at what enormous cost? Put it on public land maintained by the park service and just be a museum boat instead of pouring gobs of money down a hole in the water. Just sayin'
Nice work! Too bad you can't re-install the screws, for authenticity at least. They think you'd actually take it on a joy ride if so? wow.
Given the chance I would!
The US Navy doesn't want to risk old weapons being used against it, hence why nearly every museum ship has no screws anymore.
What a great job they've done.
Does anyone ever talk about leaving things like this out of the water? A simple building would protect it WAY better than leaving it in the water. Its not that big. The U505 display is awesome! Its protected and accessible.
One problem with placing a ship or boat on dry land is they are designed to be in the water with pressure applied by the water not only from below but also along the sides of the hull. When they are placed on land all the pressure from the weight of the structure is applied to the hull through whatever is supporting it. Over time the middle of the hull will begin to bulge since there is no corresponding pressure being applied to those area.
@@DuffyF56 I'm an Engineer so I don't believe that is an issue. Its pretty easy to make cradles to distribute the load. Even if its a lot of them. No one gets to see the hull when its in the water so they are not covering anything. Those hulls were made to withstand LOTS of pressure at diving depth. While its the other direction, It was designed to withstand 10 atmospheres or 150 PSI. Its just not that hard to support its weight.
@@mgas1237 The Gatos, along with nearly all of the U.S. Navy fleet-type submarines of World War II, were of partial double-hulled construction. The inner pressure-resisting hull was wrapped by an outer, hydrodynamic hull. The space between the inner and outer hulls were free flood. Jump to 9:47. If it can happen to a battleship it can happen to a sub. czcams.com/video/aFcOm6dkuoc/video.html
Are you familiar with _USS Cobia_ or _USS Tautog_ ? Those are the two WW II subs that I have been aboard. They were docked at Milwaukee harbor near the NRTS, and my Dad was a reservist for many years, made MCTM. Way too claustrophobic for me to ever have served aboard one, but I was able to take the guided tour.
later this year uss texas is going to drydock its 107 years old
USS Cod, Master of the USCG Morro Bay "Brushing" incident... 0~o
Why not just set up new blocks on the prepped surfaces, and just knock out the old ones instead of filling and emptying the basin? Isn't there a cost involved with that?
Its good cod is in fresh water, USN guidance on drydocking ships in freshwater is once every 25 years, preferably., where as salt water should be every 4 years. Has anyone suggested a smaller mini caseon, like the uss Olympia has to be able to repaint and do minor work on the waterline?
We don't own the dock or able to do that in its current berth. Probably a lot of red tape with the city for that.
@@amigodiver Sorry my terminology was way off. Its basically a steel box they suction to the side of the Olympia and drain out the water, here is th curator of the battship New Jersey discusses the different ways to do maintenance. czcams.com/video/aFcOm6dkuoc/video.html
@@amigodiver Its at the 4 min mark in the video.
Question for submariners: the Forward Torpedo Room had six tubes, and there were 16 torpedos stored there. From what I've learned, 6 were stored in the tubes and two under the floor. So that would mean 8 were stored in the skids on either side of the room (4 on each side). Have I got that right? because looking at video footage and images, it only seems there is room for two torps on each side. It just seems hard to believe that there were 4 torpedoes stacked on the port and starboard sides in skids. Can anyone speak to how these torps were stored? I'm obviously missing something.
Excellent overview. Thanx.
Uncle Ben Chereek served on the USS Cod from 7/15/1943 until 6/10/1944
Thanks for the update and the hard work!
"Coast Guard Paint Trading Program" LOL!
I’ll buy a piece of steel for fundraising. Has anyone looked at putting her in a cradle or building a cofferdam around her so she’s not soaking in water?
why not just make repairs and place her in a permanent dry dock ?
Excellent update!.... very informative! Thank you
the metal from ships Built before the first atomic bomb was dropped it’s worth a lot of money it has no radioactive isotopes in it which all metal since the first nuke was exploded in the atmosphere all have traces of isotope special instruments need that type of metal which means steel created before roughly 1945
One reason the metal from theUSS Texas is worth a lot of money helps offset the cost of the new steel going back into the battleship
Though she doesn’t have propellers to run, has she been examined to ensure the packing on the propeller shafts is sound and isn’t in danger of failing once she’s back in the water? I’ve heard instances when the packing dries out and is submerged again it may be more prone to failure. I’m also wondering about the reliability of the pumps to clear the water out should they be needed.
I believe we are having the shafts repacked in dry dock.
auction up sections of pressure hull there are endless possibilities
Dumb question, but with all the pitting, why not just use a welder to just fill in the pits and then grind then down smooth instead of replacing whole plates of steel. I was there when you guys moved the cod. I didn't see you all hit the dock or ship but heard about it later. I just don't get why the coastguard just didn't move there boat to make it easier on you guys.
why don't they make a permanent stand to put on land to preserve it
I am surprised that no caption for this video and wondering why
Caption where?
Extremely cooolll. Thank you for posting
Are they going to dredge the area before re docking ?
Unfortunately it didn't happen. Out of our hands.
Is there any remaining operational ww2 submarines in the world?
Yes , USS cutlass ended up in tiawanese Hands , still operational and in use, along with a few others
I would be curious why the Cod is not allowed to be operated under its own power.
Stipulations from the Navy when she was donated. Same as any museum ship.
@@luciusvorenus9445 : That's a real shame. The Navy must be skeered that some sensible mid-Westerners are going to sneak out with the Cod and attack California or NY City :p. That could be some serious shits and giggles if the Cod could go under power and offer lake tours, and honestly, I wouldn't feel slighted if they didn't launch some dummy torpedos!
A lot of the comments below are BS. All of the deck guns and torpedo tubes can be certified as non-functional the same as the restored PT-658 patrol boat, an operational WW2 PT that boat provides tours on the river all the time. The reasons the USS Cod can't be operated under its own power are manifold. It no longer has its propellers. It would require a deep water pier. The scale of the boat compared to a PT boat would require dozens of trained crew to operate her safely on the surface...it would never be allowed to submerge of course. Additionally, many of its systems are non-functional, such as the air conditioning and heads, which would be required if it provided tours. Finally, a submarine is not a PT boat, where tourists can safely gather far above the water line...the deck is close to the water and could be occasionally awash, and it is therefore no place for tourists without safety harnesses and lines. All that said, if a billionaire wanted to donate enough money and pull enough strings to make the USS Cod operational for surface cruises, it could probably be done.
@@luciusvorenus9445 Removing the screws and capping the outboard end of the shafts was a normal part of converting a fleet boat for use as a Reserve training unit, along with removing all the berths from the after battery area to create a classroom. Cod's crew has spent years finding and replacing fittings and equipment the Navy removed during the conversion.
@@TheJTMcDaniel Thank you for the information. I wasn't aware of that.
What is the point of putting it back in the mud?
Any updates on tours of USS Cod in Erie??
unfortunately we are unable to get through the red tape. We really wanted to have her stay for a week.
The video is highly interesting, but I wonder why in this video you can constantly see the fingers of the explainer. This is annoying and needless.
Ask now ask how. Awesome :D
Awesome job , great video