ARE YOUR PHOTOS at RISK? My new photo storage solution
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Really please to finally release episode one in The photographer's Toolkit. In this video I upgrade the random selection of hard drives storing my photos to a Synology NAS drive and talk about how successful that has been for Lightroom.
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Hope you enjoyed episode 1. I should say that for most a set of 1TB drives is sufficient. I need more for videos. 👍
Umm is that not terra bites? Good as usual. Have the same solution for a while now
Thanx! 👍
Nigel Danson 1 TB of online storage is pretty cheap now too. A couple of dollars a month. Cheap insurance.
@@emmgeevideo But as he mentioned he has a very slow Internet connection. Where i live was the same. Only access to internet by very expensive and slow satellite provider. All these cloud things were not useable for me.
Since last year we got glasfiber internet in our little village 300 mBits/s down and 100 upload ;-)
Now i can use cloud services and it saves me about 20000 km driving a year. Before we got glasfiber i had to carry my disks to my clients in the next big city. Today i upload the files on their ftp-server. To upload a 10GB PSD takes only about 20-30 minutes…
@@Dress192 I was really excited about BackBlaze until I found out that you cannot control what you want to backup, and you must backup each external drive every 30 days.
One last thought. I'm 55+ and have been thinking lately about who will care about my 50K + library of images when I expire. My latest plan is to create 5-10 minute slideshows of trips, best of year, etc for my boys to have as a Memento (s).
I'm sixty one and have had the same feelings exactly. Just a long time photo hobbyist so none of my images add to my income. I simply delete thousands of images over the years and keep just a few. My current LR catalog 2017-2019 has just over 3,000 images. What on earth would I do with 100,000 images!? Older images which I rarely view are removed from my C-drive and stored on external back-ups. If anything happened to them I would hardly notice.
make books and have them printed at Costco (using Fuji Crystal Archive paper.
You can insert text to explain images and have them for generations.
Remember to tell them to turn off their "corrections'.
Costco uses Fuji machines for printing that have software called "Hyperutilities" that often overcorrect expsoure and color. Be SURE to turn it off in the order process (it's on the LAST page of the printing order)
@@bbg1634 yes I also agree to printing them out for future generations
That's a brilliant idea for sure
So good to finally see practical advice on how to store photos. Just lost 3TB of photos and videos, despite backing up some to the cloud. Disaster stuff. So this video finally convinced me that NAS is the way to go! Thanks!
Love the new "intro". It will be great to watch you twice a week, and these Toolkit videos are certain to be educational for sure!
Funny thought just occurred to me.... anyone remember floppy disks... about 1.44 megabytes a disk.... you would need about 20-30 of these just for 1 raw photo these days😂😂 how time and technology move on.
I remember the 5.25" disks, 360 kilo bytes if I remember correctly. Then 3.5 at 720K and on to the ones you're talking about. I bought Turbo C programming Language and it came on a box full of disks + and actual Manual!
Indeed - I can remember when using a phrase like "only 42 terrabytes are available" (regardless of context) would have had you sectioned!
We are showing our age. In high school the first word processing machines had giant floppies and clicked with every few keystrokes. Wow.
Michael D Newcomer first word processor I had was a type writer😂😂
Stan Whattmore, how about the Seagate 10mb HDD that connected via Serial Cable? It was prime time back then. I only recently chucked it, but I wish I’d of kept it to put on the shelf for display now.... My first storage system was on Cassette Tape back in the 80’s before 5.25” floppies. Man have things changed.
Thanks for such useful tip Nigel. By accessing the files wirelessly you confirm that the speed of the storage device is irrelevant, what is important is the speed of the hard drive where the catalog lives. This will save some money to many of us. Thanks again.
Perfect timing... I will soon need to sort my memory! The graphic at 4:15 for your whole setup is really useful whatever the size of the NAS. Interesting that spinning discs don't slow the system if the catalogue is on a SSD. Thanks Nigel a really useful video.
Thanks for the video Nigel. I also recently went to a NAS enclosure and had a hard drive fail in it within the first 30 days, so you're right it's not a backup solution. Fortunately I keep several backups like you do. I found the customer service at Seagate to be great on the return and replacement of the drive.
Wow, this is a quantum step for me. Thanks for giving me a glimpse of the distant future. I am an amateur, getting more serious, and your current set-up is about two steps ahead of where I am.
I never used a NAS but this video is a good start thinking over on changing IOS time machine backing up my photo’s on a hard disk and another hard disk as a second backup.
Thanks for sharing Nigel!
Excellent vid Nigel! Data backup and protection is vital, particularly to professionals. It’s not until archiving with video do you realise just how much storage you need! I have an old 4 bay Drobo which really needs upgrading and it’s important to use robust NAS drives in these ‘always on’ enclosures as disks do fail! Fortunately, I’ve never lost any data when a drive has failed, as these enclosures and drives are in a raid array. An SSD is essential for Lightroom and particularly video editing! Your system at over £3k is expensive and hadn’t realised to quite recently, the massive capacity these drives now extend to. And if one fails - ouch! Insurance needed on these, but ultimately it’s more expensive to lose your images too! I have several other off line drives too with backups of backups on, anal maybe, but safe - I hope! Cheers
Thanks for this video, it helped me mentally work out my challenging storage issues and I went with the same system. A serious stressful weight has been lifted!
Great start for the new series, very well produced and concise. Keep going 👍🏻
Good job I have my notification bell setup, nearly missed this one!Good advice Nigel thanks.
Thank you, amazed at how low cost this solution is, (not cheap but not what I thought). Great info as always.
Fantastic idea Simon, can't wait to see more.
I really need one of these! I have 5 hardrives which is a nightmare to manage.. so this is a very helpful video Nigel. Thanks buddy!
I need to do something like this. I do back up my files on hard drives which I put in a fire proof safe. It's nice to know Seagate is still around. They must be doing something right because they've been around for a long time. Thanks for the video!!!
Really interesting video. We, my wife and I, are enthusiast and not pro but I'm planning a NAS for out photos. Great idea to put the LR catalog on external ssd ! Thanks for share your solution.
I can't stand gear videos. I was prepared to shut this one off a few seconds in. And then, I realized that this was useful information presented in an interesting way.
Well done, and thank you!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Not at all boring Nigel, the protection of our data is almost as important as taking the image in the first place. I liked the tip about storing the Lightroom catalogue separately.
I don't use any cloud base storage but do have a Synology DS416 which is networked at home, I've not worked out if I can access it away from home yet, plus a Drobo 5bay storage unit.
Look forward to your next tips video.
I have a hard drive but recently started using Amazon photos with my prime membership , unlimited storage, original size including raw a really good affordable solution, along with a external hard drive.
Having had a house fire at the end of June I fully appreciate the need for alternative backup. I (like you) had my photos spread over 4 hard drives and although they weren't touched by the fire I still can't get to them because of the insurance fiasco. Obviously because they contain personal information I will get them back eventually but it is really annoying that I have lost them entirely at the moment.. I will definitely be upgrading to a NAS storage system when our house gets rebuilt.
Back up, back up and back up off site too.
When my home burned, I got my family out and the ONLY thing I went back in for was photos - negs, slides and storage hard drives.
Having read all the comments below I still find it a good idea that you present in your video. I own a 2 bay synology and I work in the same way. It is, however, important to have a backup also on another location so don’t throw your old drives away :-) I,d like to mention that I use the DS photo app that comes with synology to store my jpeg versions so I can easily and quickly show pictures to friends or relatives after all as a hobby photographer you like to show your work.
Thank you, that is really useful to talk about toolkits. I have many hard-drives, I want to take on one place. I don`t know how I do it.
I have been using Synology NAS for more than 8 years, while I definitely agree that they are really nice and convenient devices (and I am still using them), they should be used carefully. First of all, always keep the NAS operating system up to date. Around 5 years ago, my NAS was hacked by SynoLocker just because my system was not up to date, all my files were locked and I was asked to pay a ransom to unlock the files. Fortunately that was just a backup so I simply had to format everything and start over again. Very recently, I received an email from Synology warning users that hackers were trying to break into NAS systems by trial-and-error passwords, so using two-factor authentication is highly recommended. Just my thoughts about using NAS, and very nice and informative video by the way.
It is interesting to see what others use for backup. I, too, have an SSD for my Lightroom catalog. But I have a fast connection so copies of my photos go to Backblaze. As I continue to do more videos, I may need to emulate your setup. Thanks for sharing.
Great vlog, I use a Synology NAS for mine. Great kit. 1 point that may help people, Amazon photos let you store raw photos on there cloud service for free (prime members) and it’s unlimited! I have about 25000 and it keep monitoring any source and backs them up automatically. Very cheap and free for prime members. Hope this helps someone! Cheers Jase
Very interesting and useful. Thank you Nigel.
I've been waiting for this video for a while. Was having the same anxiety and frustration as you. Just bought a QNAP NAS which has two Thunderbolt 3 ports and 10Gb Ethernet so I won't have to worry about performance issues. I almost went with the solution you chose but opted for the better performance option. I still don't have a good cloud storage solution since Backblaze won't back up a NAS (except for the more expensive B2 service). Looking forward to the next Toolkit episode.
The problem with QNAP stuff is the obsolescence and the support. I had a QNAP NAS and it was pretty cool, but after a while they drop support for it, and if it breaks you are out of luck. Why would your backup service know anything about your NAS? Isn't it just another disk as far as they are concerned?
That was an epic text overlay for that drone pan!
Nice Video, looking forward to next week.
I like the idea with the LR Catalogue on a separate SD.
PS: also good that you include another backup and store it somewhere else. I think this is something that many people forget.
LR will not allow you to store the Catalogue on the NAS, it needs to be "locally" available. Hence, if you edit on multiple computers, the only option left it to store it on a external drive. This breaks the logic of having a NAS (centeralised storage), but it is useful when you are offsite.
I‘m fully with our on that ... I also run a Synology NAS system (yet only with 2 redundant RAID drives) ... I had one of those in the NAS and 4 external harddrives fail in just 2 years (all Western Digital) - even though after the first failure I was super careful ... as external harddrives I solely rely on Samsung SSD drives ... and, knock on wood, they haven‘t failed on me ever since! And I also consider using something like backblaze to create on online backup (to be safe of fires, flooding, thieves and the like)
I'm wondering, Nigel - what occurred in 2016 where your number of photos per year nearly tripled? New camera? New life goals? I know this is video is a couple years old now, however I find myself needing a storage option and was thrilled to find your advice here in your channel. As always, fantastic production quality. You are a very, very talented videographer!!! Love your editing style.
I like your video. I'll make one soon showing how I back up using my Triple Drive system. I discovered that I made backing up photos enjoyable buy having a really easy process....and a step by step plan. tHanks for your video!
Thanks Nigel, useful information.
Very nice workflow. But what about truly archival storage? Have you considered saving your very best photos on M-disc optical media? These discs are available in 25GB, 50GB and 100GB capacity. M-discs are rated to provide permanent archival storage for up to 1000 years. They are immune from geomagnetic events such as solar flares. Something to consider. M-discs can be read from any standard Blu-ray drive.
Nice solution. I have three 8 Bay raid systems. One is connected to a server that does backup. The other two are connected to my main computer. All my images are on one of these raid, work stuff on the other. I also mirror my entire image collection to another computer at home which has a local back up as well. I also have it all in the cloud and accessible on my laptop. Can’t be too careful
Nigel, I highly recommend to not backup your files daily! I did that for a long time myself but keep in mind that the backup only saves what you have on you drive right now. If you delete a picture because you thought it wasn't good or even by accident, it will overwrite the backup faster than you might overthink you decision of deleting it or realizing that you made a mistake by deleting some files. Mirrored drives are truly awesome if one breaks down but a backup won't save you from human mistakes! I changed to a weekly cycle of backups or do a backup manually as soon as I import an important set of new images.
That's why something like Carbon Copy Cloner for Mac ( might be one for PC too ) is good. If you set it up right it will not overwrite files, it will move the older version to a saved directory where you can retrieve it if you find you need it. The problem is that so much data you can lose something and not know for a long time that you have lost it. That is why it is good to keep the older drives sometimes. I have a working external drive, and a clone external drive. Then - also one other drive that I alternate clone to as well. Single external drives are fast, pretty reliable and cheap. My biggest problem is organizing my different data.
I have a NAS system for media storage and I use mirror drives protocol. In a 8 drive bay 4 of the drives contain the media which copy to another 4 drives thereby having an immediate back up system. If one of the drives fail - (up to now 2 have, I live in the tropics very close to the ocean so the air is humid and corrosive,) - its sister drive takes over until the failed one is replaced which then becomes the mirror drive.
Brilliant - This is what I was looking for :)
Thanks Nigel! Exploring my options. I currently use a Drobo DAS plus backups. Drobo recently announced bankruptcy. I recently purchased a Synology NAS and slowly migrating to the NAS. Good advice re: LR cat on one drive and images on the NAS.
100% Agreement and thanks for posting.
A NAS drive system is 100% better than batches of separate hard-drives - but it#s pricey. If someone is a Pro and can afford it, a quality NAS with Server-grade hard-drives is the best (me = saving up)
Thanks for thos video Nigel, I messaged you on Instagram to ask your thoughts on NAS when you posted something in your stories. Now I know haha
How to effeciently keep catalogs . . images. . and where . .some great tips and practical advice Nigel which has asnwered some of the questions that plague me as my colleciton gets bigger - the catalog on the SSD is a great tip - Are you running one huge catalog across all of the years with the added one for top images?
Thank you for this, Nigel. Just what I needed. Could you please make a video about online photo storage (and by that I don't mean Google Drive). I would like a backup that can't be physically destroyed (for example fire). THANK YOU
Interesting video - thanks. I'm another who normally skips gear videos, but storage should be a concern for everyone.
A NAS drive is wildly out of my budget, but that Lr catalogue tip alone is worth 7:45 mins of my time. ;)
In case anyone's interested, I have a collection of external hard drives - and a manually maintained list of which year(s) of photos is on each. Every photo is on at least two drives; a 'working' drive' and an offsite 'backup'. I don't use cloud storage.
Hi Nigel, thanks for the video drop! Really useful advice. Could you do a video about how to sort and manage photos in lightroom? I find it incredibly complex! Thanks 🙏
Lightroom has all the preview information (including all the editing you have done in Lightroom) in the catalog which is on the fast SSD. It will only access the raw data on the external drive when you go to 100% zoom or when you export the file
A benefit of a nas like setup is that is makes your organisation much more elegant. What you DO mention, but many people miss, is the importance of off-site, INCREMENTAL backup. Just syncing everything 24/7 is counter productive because that will just copy corrupted files (technical issue, ransom ware, etc.) Off-site and as important, disconnected from the internet. A decent nas will allow you to expand so you don't have to sink in all the money straight away, but the risk is you won't do this as a you already have a solution that sort of works.
Thanks. So informative. I think I need to do this too. Just one point I question: I think I read somewhere that Lightroom doesn't actually sync the raw file to the cloud. Only a smart preview. One shouldn't rely on that "smart preview" as a backup (I do appreciate that you're not relying on that).
This is maybe booring, but it is so important to have backup of your work. It can`t be said enough!! Thumbs up! :)
My backup photo hard drive failed at the weekend, so in the process of replacing (and upgrading a few drives). I'm using an old PC as a server, and just copy from my main PC to my backup every few months - though not routinely or regularly. For what it's worth, Amazon Prime users get free photo storage, and I've got around 3tb of photos (RAW, PSD, jpg, tiff, etc - seems to take all recognisable image formats) backed up there - an unexpected and actually pretty cheap (though not quick) online solution, and that is automatic.
Very helpful video, thank you !
For several years I use a raid system external drive for storage of my images. Secondly I burn all images on blu-ray disks, just for safety. All my edited images are in iCloud.
Hi Nigel !
I've got a similar set up for my workflow, except here is a tip that might improve your life. I don't know if it has been said already, I didn't read all comments but it would allow you to edit your files without your portable SSD.
I personnaly keep my raw files on a NAS same as you, and my catalogs on a local folder on my laptop.BUT, the folder is synchronised with dropbox. Another folder with the same dropbox account is synchronised on my desktop, and is updated immediately. This means you can start an edit on your desktop and take your laptop to finish it on your couch. Hope this helps !
I don’t understand. Can you explain in easier terms?
You should look at how the Synology can also sync a copy of your folders to cloud services as an offsite copy, just in case your NAS fails. Raid 5 only supports 1 drive failure
It supports many services out of the box and just works.
he's using raid6 though which supports 2 drive failures.
It would be interesting to see how many approaches are being taken by your subscribers. In the field, when traveling, I back up to a MyPassport drive first. Then I load the days images/video onto my iPad Pro 2018 when I can use Lightroom CC (mobile) or Adobe Premier Rush to do preliminary reviews and edits. Upon returning home, I have images/video synced to Lightroom Classic / Premier Pro on an iMac. The iMac has a one RAID system for all images/video and anotherRAID system for auto backup of my entire iMac. Finally, important folders on my iMac are stored in iCloud. WOW ... both suspenders and a belt.
Thanks for the video. interestingly I have kinda the opposite problem, having a fast internet connection, my photos can get backed-up when I don't want them to.
Say I have a sat down after a shoot, and copied them, without having turned off my sync first. All photos backup without me having had pruned them first.
recently I did a few milkyway shots, I planned on trying out stacking and auto star alignments so I took sever long exposure shots. but I only wanted my final stacked image.
if I want to hunt down that final image. I have to inspect 30 images to find the one shot I ended up with.
Hi Nigel! Looking forward to watching this series. I was wondering and giving ideas, if you can add photo editing software for beginners? Such as what the options are, which one is better investment long term? I know you did a lightroom video before. What specs of laptop would work well and recommend. Thanks!
Also, your video looks a bit different, looks good
i just orderd my disks and im about to decide on the 6 or 8 bay synology with backblaze backup. i do have a fast internet connection.
Hello Nigel, good video, importent as well. We seems to forget this.
Also having a NAS now. May i ask a question, about the way your set up your library when ypu put the pictures on the NAS. Or is only via LR.
I’m still on aperture and have to switch, most likely to darkroom. Or somebody elses reaction 👍.
Fully understand where your coming from, a while ago i lost in the region of about £10,000 worth of work, This was through a wd drive that started to have issues, was told to connect direct which then wiped out everything, I wish i had backed up the back up and never did, But am in the process of having to save again for new drives, but will be double backing everything up, and your idea about giving a drive to a friend , i will be honest had not even crossed my mind, but will be doing.
Sorry to hear that - it is my worse fear
Great advice, thank you - very useful. Are your links to gear affiliate? You don't say so, so I'm assuming they aren't, which is reassuring.
Hi Nigel, great video thank you. I'm about to get a nas myself so was good to hear your views on them. I have a question though, I have 2 external hard drives of images so far, which I plan to put on the nas to have everything in one place. How will that work with my Lightroom catalog, if I move all my images to a new place?
Thank you in advance for any light on this.
I have the same nas backup, but I have my lightroom catalogue on my dropbox. By having it on dropbox I can access it on multiple computers.
And you are safe from fire or thief :)
Michael, thank you for this comment. I would love your opinion. I would love to access my files anywhere when I'm traveling and shooting, however, I definitely want a cloud storage as well for my entire Lightroom Catalog. With that said I use dropbox a lot. Is it convenient to use both NAS system and also the dropbox system to access one Lightroom Catalog...I guess my question is, how could you use the NAS system, while still back up everything on the cloud and have it be synced...without having to update two systems? Is this even possible? Thank you so much for your time, feel free to email me as well: noah@noahdavidwetzel.com
Great video, I will get my first nas this week, Synology ds 918+ 4 bay. The trick with keeping the catalog on a different ssd is something I will start doing, are there any tutorials on how to do that, that you know of?
Thanks for your great video and explanations. I have something similar, but how would you access your photos if you’re not at home? Is this possible?
5 bay Synology 650.00 plus 12 TB Iron Wolf drives 340.00 each so about $2,350.00 US dollars. - I have a two-bay Synology with 10 TB Iron wolf drives and that's expensive enough...plus my offsite storage is about 11.00 per month with Backblaze B2 storage.
Randy Pollock Synology are well known for being hacked continuously- so I would not opt for one of those... stay away from anything personally hosted and constantly networked- it’s a security-nightmare! Use secured services such as Amazon S3, or some other encrypted service provided by a major storage-supplier
@@mortenthorpe I use Synology both in a professional environment and at my home. I do not have the server accessible from the Internet. The server is only available when I am at home. I then run Backblaze B2 from the server to their servers. I use my Smugmug account to access any images that I might want to share or have access too.
Great video
Thanks for this! This is a great workflow and I'm considering adopting it. Really like the idea of keeping your LRC on a fast SSD and then referencing those files on your NAS. In your opinion, do you think you could get by with 100 Mbit/s internet and not Gigabit?
Hey Travis, the 1 gigabit/s is in reference to the speed of the LAN connection. Not the internet speed. If your computer is not more than 10 years old it is reasonable to assume that you have gigabit ethernet connection. I hope it helps even if it is late.
This is unbelievable - I’ve just purchased a Synology NAS with 5x4 TB drives which gives me 10TB of storage (very impressed with your 42 TB). Plus I have a WD cloud 4TB device which is networked. I also have 6 hard drives hanging off my computer via USB hubs and power boards. Like you I had a hard drive failure but was able to retrieve all my precious files.
I’d like to ask - Did you just copy all your hard drives to the Synology and then tell your LR catalogue where to find those files in their new location? I’m hesitating as I don’t want to make a major stuff up. So glad to have found you.
Back up? Of course but archival storage is essential and burning to DVD+R is supposed to be the best, permanent (60yrs plus) safest way to do it. I'll definitely be using this method. Hard drives will electromagnetically degrade and disc drives will fail.
I like the idea of keeping the LR catalogue on my laptop but move my photos to an external SSD that would be backed up. If I was to travel with the laptop but without the external SSD, would I still be able to use LR and edit photos? Is this where smart previews come in? Cheers
Syncing to CC from Lightroom classic only syncs smart previews though. Only Lightroom CC syncs the originals.
Hi Nigel, timely information. Question, when using the SSD for the LR catalog separate from your desktop the edits that you make how do sync this back with the NAS? When out in the field and you download images onto a laptop how with this system are you getting images into the NAS?
It’s not separate from his desktop it seems like he’s still editing of the catalog on his ssd once you back up your photos like he did you can also have Lightroom save your catalog in a different folder on a different drive. Personally I edit my photos of a different drive and keep my catalogs on my computer since they don’t take up that much memory. So for instance on location what you could do is save the photos to the ssd and then come home and download them to the server but this wouldn’t be necessary if you setup remote access.
Thank you
Eh, Nigel, I'm sure it should be usable up to 42TB on your Synology NAS? 42Gb is not plenty nowadays :)
Ha - good spot!
Nigel great video and really timely as I need a new back up plan...
Lots of talk of the Synology system in the comments, has anyone had experience with Drobo? How do the two compare?
I think it's best to steer clear from Drobo. Check out data hoarder on Reddit. You can't really beat Synology
In your new 'Tools' series, I would like some suggestions on software for grading video from my Nikon Z6. Photoshop itself doesn't offer much, but moving to the full Adobe CC suite to add video editing is too expensive on a subscription basis.
ReadyNas from Netgear is the way to go.
What about Amazon Prime Photos (included with Amazon Prime)? Unlimited backup including raw files for $120 a year. It even let's you backup photos from your phones as well. The desktop tool makes automated backups simple as well.
great video, is it possible to keep the catalog on the NAS ?
Great video Nigel!
The solution is really interesting, but probably too expensive for an amateur photographer.
I have a western digital raid usb 3 disk 4tb that I connect directly to the PC to backup my images.
The most expensive part are the drives themselves. These don't have casing / usb connectivity so are actually cheaper then the one you are currently using. What do you use to back that drive up? See... you already need another one. :-)
Its all a matter of scale Francesco, you can buy a NAS box quite cheap and start with 2-4TB drives, then scale up whenever needed. My 128Gb iPad is only half full after years of photography 😉
@@CookedLight : Or, if you're a somewhat technically inclined cheapstake like me, you can re-purpose an old computer. That's what I did after upgrading my computer, and it only cost me the HDDs and the couple of hours needed to install and configure a software RAID under linux.
@@Krrypton a sound idea. What version of Linux did you use and any links to tutorials?
@@hudster1969 I used Debian - but then I always use Debian (unless I have some particular reason to use something else). However, pretty much any distro should do as long as you install the 'mdadm' package.
As for tutorials... I'm sorry, the best I can do is suggest you literally google for 'mdadm tutorial'. I didn't use a tutorial, since I've been familiar with the tool for the better part of a decade. Besides, how comfortable you are with any one tutorial depends much on prior knowledge (and I think any tutorial for tools of this sort assumes a rather good familiarity with linux - filesystem/directory structure, working in console, commands etc.).
You should consider also other ways to store your photos... like Internxt Photos cloud, is a private and secure alternative
Hi Nigel. If the network goes down, can this NAS be accessed via a wired connection to the computer? I know you mentioned Thunderbolt but there are some NAS devices that only work when connected to the network. Thank you.
I only have the one PC its a very good one 2080 gforce and running samsung 970 m.2 for c drive and a 4K 49 inch Monitor .... I have 3 copies of all my Pictures one of them is a Seagate 8 Terabyte that I only hook to the PC every month to back-up and I store it on the shelf .... Camera is Nikon D850 and all Prime lenses shooting Compressed raw
Hi, if you had a faster internet, would you use online storage over the physical backups you have at home?
Also, are you using lightroom classic rather than lightroom? Im just thinking of the online access of regular lightroom. I have neither yet, but Im ready to take the plunge
Side note, hoping not violate any of your product placement rules. Take a look at BeyondCompare. It is fantastic for the price to compare duplicates as well as sync across NAS and cloud services.
Just had a look at the drive as my photo storage is so so bad. You have it so easy I take it we are talking £1k for the box and the drives
I had another quick question! Once I get a nas, when I put a folder of raw images from a shoot onto the nas, I'll then be accessing this folder via WIFI from my laptop to work on them in Lightroom. Will that drastically slow things down? Thanks so much for any advice!
That is a good point. Access over the network is by its very nature slower than a directly connected drive. These days hard drives are so cheap and simple that it makes more sense to buy 8-10TB single drives, or if you need more you can combine them various ways, but I recommend to keep things as simple as possible. If you want complete simplicity - back up to the cloud. NASs are expensive, they get EOL'ed and support is lost for them, and buying new drives for them is a pain and there is the chance or losing your data.
Hey @NigelDanson really enjoyed this video. I had a quick question about your secondary backups. What is your setup for your secondary backup. Do you backup to one drive or do you have data spread across multiple drives. For example, if 2019 you shot 15 Terabytes of data, how would you back that up to your secondary?
I have 2x storage 🙈
I have a question. I'm new to all this, and a little late to comment on this video. But, is purchasing online cloud storage from like google drive not as good as buying an external physical drive?
In the unlikely event you fill the NAS drives capacity what do you do? Get a seco0nd NAS drive and keep both going?
Nice storage system Nigel :)
My personal storage system will let my photos last a minimum 200 years.
I keep them all in protective sleeves in a box to prevent light in a dry, cool and stable temperature place.
Quick question, when you process your files, are you connected with ethernet or wifi ? I have a speed connection but difficult to connect my iMac with ethernet to work... thanks !!
Hi Nigel interesting video I'm still counting how many backups of backups that was ha ha.
Ha ha
Back up is important, but I really can't stand all these clouds storing my data with the risk I might get locked out from it at some point. I've enough passwords to rely on already and before long we'll all be forced to use cloud technology as 5G rolls out and hard drives become obsolete. I do like the rest of your setup though, great video 👍🏼
This is a great solution Nigel and as ever a really informative video. I have a NAS but don’t use it the way you do...it’s purely for backup at the moment. I’m interested to know where you save your Lightroom catalogue so it is accessible from both laptop and desktop?
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Eke van der Zee teach me for not paying attention! 😉
Nigel thanks for the information about the NAS. My question is what happens if the NAS unit breaks down?
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