Making Photography 'Work' Prints (why you should + one easy way)
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In this video, I’m talking about the importance of making ‘work’ prints of your photographs and sharing one tool (the Canon Selphy 1300) that makes it incredibly easy to do just that at home.
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Intro: 00:00
Canon Selphy Overview: 01:40
Choosing a Printer: 02:27
Why I Love It: 04:17
Sponsor Message: 05:22
Printing Images: 06:11
Print Quality: 08:15
How I Use 'Work' Prints: 09:36
Closing Thoughts: 12:10
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One of my teachers at college said: "I know you all want to make big and impressive prints. But if it doesn't work as a small print, the big print doesn't make it better."
Or something like that. You get the point!
Great video as always!🙌🏻
I like that. Cheers!
I had a professor who was less kind and said nearly the same thing. He used to say "If you can't make it good make it big".
In my undergrad photo class, my professor had us go to CVS to print these tiny low quality workprints thats costs 30 cents or smth. the idea was that its different than looking at photo on screen because its not giving off light, rather its reflecting lights. And having them laid out side by side, carrying them around all the time to repeatedly look at them allows you to judge them with fresh sense. It really helps to see improvements and how they fit with another.
Absolutely. Such a difference looking at your work printed, regardless of the quality.
The phenomenon you are describing is referred to as "light Reflective", screens and computers (giving off) "light emissive". Terminology describing such things can be found in Bruce Frasers "Real world color management" and is universally accepted.
I bought a Canon Selphy CP1300 last year. I found that turning off Image optimize in printer settings and adjusting brightness to +1 gives you a more accurate screen to print match.
Thank you for this wanted to see if anyone did any printer adjustments to get better match
I love mine. It's great being able to quickly have my photography in my hands and to share memories with people.
Absolutely. The convenience of it is awesome!
I also got that exact same printer months ago to make workprints, got really bored of having to have them done elsewhere and the whole waiting and postage price. So it’s great to just be able to print as I go. I also keep a visual journal and it’s great for that as well. However, one thing I do differently with workprints is to put them through Lightroom and add the file name in very small font on the left side of the image. I have so many negatives and digital files it makes it easier to find each one.
That's a good idea as well!
I love these printers, we still have a very old model that my father used to take on holidays for printing postcards that we would then send to family members and friends. It was so much fun and exciting! I was a kid back then and it always felt like magic. There‘s also one slightly weird fact about me and this printer: I always wanted to remove the short ends of the paper, they snap of making a nice sound, kinda ASMR, and then I used to collect and stack them on top of each other and sometimes after the holidays we printed dozens of photos so there were soooo many ends to snap of, that was great.
I have been using an older model Selphy for years. The paper used to be set up for use as postcards, with designated spots for the stamp and address printed on the back.
I impulse bought the new version of this printer (CP 1500) and I'm SO happy with it. It's just so nice to have a print in your hand and this constraints of this printer take the pressure off of getting something perfect for larger print.
I impulse bought it, before the end of this video lol (literally 5 minutes ago, by now). Super stoked to start getting my work in my hands with this little printer. You still happy with it, ten months later?
@@Thejonthomas Absolutely! Still use it all the time and enjoy it
rly glad i found your channel - its so super helpful bro! thank you for making all these 100% legit videos!
Thanks! I am working on a zine and arrived to the exact same device - really enjoying your channel, btw - actually interesting content that is relevant, keep up the good work!
Another solid video! Thanks for your input Kyle - really enjoyed this one.
🙌 Glad you enjoyed!
Absolutely love this idea. I’ve been eager to print more but it’s just annoying ordering and waiting for photos to come - this looks like the perfect balance
It's definitely a nice compact solution for home to start getting your work off the screen.
I have the same printer, my wife wanted to give me a full-sized printer and I said no for the exact same maintenance/volume reasons you mentioned. Now that I have printed some postcards, I am enjoying taking photos so much more.
I just bought the SELPHY cp1500. I love the print quality. It’s enough for my journaling.
This is so wonderful, thank you for sharing. This is exactly what I need for mocking up photo books. I have a project in mind and I know this will help me greatly.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Fuji install wide, love it.
Been looking for something like this for project sequencing. Just ordered one now! Great video as always!
It's a good one. Enjoy!
As a mature photography student had my eyes on one of these, but I think this solidifies it! Ta
Seems like a great idea, cheers for the recommendation Kyle. Lovely shots by the way 👍
Cheers!
Great video, thank you Kyle, such a fantastic idea.
Cheers, Harley!
Man I really like the colors of your photos! Every time
Thank you.
I absolutely love this idea. I might just have to get one. I also love getting prints made of photos of friends to give to them, but this is a cool alternative.
It's a good one!
I think I'll get one, I was eyeing a bigger printer but you changed my mind, I like the idea to just print everything remotely good and not having to worry too much about cost & space. Then I can send only things that are really worth it to print in a shop.
It's been a nice change to work that way, for me.
I have an ancient Canon Selphy CP800. It still works using a memory card for the files as I can no longer connect it to my Mac. The quality is pretty good except for the black and whites. I love that I can shoot with film recipes on my Fujifilm and then pop the SD card to the printer and instantly make some prints.
I love this printer!
Printing is awesome. I have the Canon Pro 100S and I'll print 4x6" on it when I'm taking a look at something I shot that I might want to print larger. Sure, it is fairly costly to run but it gives me such joy to print an A3 right at home. I've recently started darkroom printing too; now THAT is fun. Cheers Kyle.
Cheers, Morris! Been a long time since I’ve printed in the darkroom. That’s something that’s on the list to get back into.
Amazing video, Kyle! Keep up the good work ;)
🙏
Nice!
Seems like a useful printer to get an idea of what looks good on paper!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers, Sina.
Immediately closed the video and found one of these second hand online for $60 with 30 4x6 prints, thanks for the informative video, this is exactly what I need
Great to hear!
Thanks for sharing
Great video 👌
Great little printer! Quality prints for phone, digital and film shots. I print them up and send to family and put some on the fridge.
It's a good one. :)
Great video. Something I don't do enough is print out photos to see them in hand.
Amazing video, thank you !
Glad you liked it!
Nice work, Kyle!
Thank you, Jacopo! 🙏
Seems like a super useful thing to have before getting projects printed at labs as well, to see it in front of you in lower quality and change the order of images
The prints that come out of the canon SELPHY CP 1300 are actually very good quality prints.
Great idea, I've been thinking about a convenient printer for my project prints. So, I've ordered one. Thank you for the advice!
Glad it was helpful!
@@KyleMcDougall Definitely, I am far too lazy to get out the big printer most of the time! ;)
This is very interesting. I’m thinking of making my first zine. This will help a lot. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
i was sold on byuing one around 32s into the episode
Enjoy!
This is so, so cool. I wish I had known about this before I set myself up with an eco tank 7700. I use it for the same thing but it was way more expensive. I will say tho I’ve printed over 400 full color 4x6s and still haven’t had to refill the ink. But this looks very cool, thanks for sharing.
Yeah you'll probably get a better cost per print with the eco tank, I'd imagine. But a bit bigger. Regardless, just having anything to print with is important.
Great idea for the purposes you describe, I have an inkjet that I hardly use due to ink costs or it drying up so this would be ideal.
Canon used to have more paper options when they started those printers. There was panorama and postcard (lines for address on the back). I have one of the older ones. Quality is better than a cheap ink-jet office printer. I really like mine.
This is great! I have a professional Canon A3+ printer which is absolutely awesome. But the cost per print is high, especially for smaller prints. I usually make a collage of smaller sizes on a bigger sheet and then cut them to size, but that takes too long! This is a great solution for smaller prints. I think I might pick one of these up and have a play! Thanks for sharing, Kyle! Great work, as always, mate!
Cheers, Amir! Sounds like this could be a good fit for you.
Great video! I use a Selphy, and I love the quality, sometimes the prints looks like darkroom prints LOL!
Seems brilliant idea, be nice too also give a few too family n friends and stuff.
Nice n simple, like that.
Thanks Sam
Cheers, Sam!
I have been using the Canon Selphy printers since the CP 700 with third party ICC (too lazy to create my own) and add Fujifilm Instax Wide recently.
BTW, to avoid wasting a set of ink, power up the Selphy printer without the ink loaded.
Good to know. Thanks!
Huh! Matt Day just posted a video about printing photos, and how helpful it is for professional and personal work. I've been mulling about getting myself some kind of photo printer just for sharing my digital photos more... just so that they don't exist, forgotten, on my hard drives. This seems like a very handy, inexpensive solution, with decent quality to boot (at least for family photos)! Thanks for sharing!
Cheers! Glad this helped.
This was super helpful thanks. So far I've been printing little Fuji Instax prints, yet the quality is lacking and it's way too expensive for my purposes. Your solution sounds perfect for my personal prints and experiments. And it looks like a fairly reasonable priced solution as well.
Cheers, Jonas. Glad it helped.
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll have to check this printer out. I’d still like to find a more professional printer as I’d like to experiment with different paper stock. I find the basic glossy/luster choice very limited.
Hi Kyle - As usual this video was very helpful and informative. After seeing many of your videos I've decided to get back into film photography. Didn't realize how much I missed it until seeing a number of your vidoes.
I'm thinking of getting the Selphy for my granddaughter, but wondered about the paper used by the CP1300. Does it take conventional photo paper or does it use unique paper designed solely for the cp1300? If so, what is the cost per pack and about how many prints does one set of ink give you. Appreciate your response in advance. Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks! I'll buy this to my girls as their Xmas gift 🙂
You’re welcome. Cheers!
nice video, just the type of printer that seems easy to use and therefore would get used. Thanks
For sure, that's what I love about it.
HI Kyle, thanks for sharing your work and the suggestion for the printer. I bought the cp1500. Just have a question, do you noticed any difference from printing straight from Lightroom with a raw/dng file or do you think the printer will "read" the colors better if exported as a jpeg first? I'm troubled to have a nice color reproduction, especially on the reds. all the best
I've got a decent Canon A3 photo printer and Epson V750 for scanning, but have never been 100% happy with scans and prints of negatives. I always felt that there was more to be had from the negatives which I wasn't seeing in the final result. I've recently started B&W darkroom printing and found that there's definitely something different about them in the tonality and grain on the paper. I've now built a small darkroom in the shed to make it as convenient as possible to print and have been loving it. Which ever way prints are done - they definitely are the last piece of the puzle which is so important.
What you say is true for black and white, digital printing will never be worth a print on baryta paper. On the other hand, for color, printing and developing on paper is a real nightmare and there, digital has been a revolution and real progress.
@@Hector_Malot Yes - That's why I specifically mentioned black and white. Whilst I haven't tried colour printing in the darkroom, I have enough challenges with scanning and editing colour to think that it would be much easier in the darkroom. At the moment, probably 90% of my photoghraphy is B&W film. Maybe I'll try colour printing one day, but for now, I've still got a ton to learn with just black and white.
@@Hector_Malot I don't know if it's your case, but pp keep repeating this myth.. and I assume without ever even trying it.
Ra-4 (color process) is actually easier than black and white. Maybe not as "magical"..the only control you have is exposure and matching the color balance of the film with filtration. I did it for the first time about 3 year ago and I was really surprised by how fast I got a working print. The recommended filtration gets you super close and then it is a matter of fine tuning to your taste. You should give it a try one day.
@@raphajptube I speak knowingly I did this in the lab for years during my youth in the 70s. I did color negative, RA4, Cibachrome (for me the best rendering), I did subtractive synthesis (Durst), additive synthesis (Philips, Technicolor process). You need thermostated baths, chemistries that are not given, the same for the papers, not to mention the test prints, I used the Kodak system with a gray range to find the neutral gray in the mosaic, I used the Mitchell Unicube system (very reliable). The analyzer that must be calibrated first, in short it's fun at first for those who have never done it, but you get tired of it quickly, especially since there is no creativity in the flush draw, everything is calculated mathematically. No, really, for color, digital has been a fantastic good.
@@Hector_Malot Wow... you do have experience ... you have fair points but I still disagree with you. Ra-4 is a good alternative to someone already doing film . Is it the best? I don't know! Are alternative processes worse than digital? People doing film are usually looking for satisfaction at different places. I think digital extremely hard with all the profiling... the nonlinearity of it. the costs... etc. I have tried it and it didn't fly for me.
If I am not mistaken you can also use the Selfie to do emulsion lifts as well if you are into that sort of image manipulation.
Please, tell me more about! Did you find some tutorial around?
I've a cheep Epson A4 printer that uses bottled ink, which lasts 'forever'
Great for hanging prints here in the house and I can even do a montage of smaller ones as a theme
I love your set up and agree you need to print with whatever works for you 👍
Cheers!
Alec Soth does the same with the small prints, it seems like a fun process to curate your work
Definitely a fun process.
This is very cool! Much more cost efficient than using a wide format like I've been doing for so long. Definitely looking into picking one of these up.
I'm always concerned about the saturation on printers like this, did you find the saturation too much (but tolerable) or do you feel like it may help to move the saturation down maybe 10 or 15 ticks?
I find for the most part it's actually fine. Blue's can be a bit oversaturated, but not too bad.
Thanks. Can you print other aspect ratios, eg 16:9, perhaps with white border taking up the empty space?
I actually do this too for my portfolio every year. Except rather than printing them myself I always use one of those crappy print providers like snap fish with 50 free prints etc and then I put them all in order on the floor 🖤
Whatever works for you is best. The prints are what's most important.
Great video, what is the reference of the photo paper you use?
Great Video 👌🏻
I bought this printer cause of this video and im excited. I love it but one question i have. What icc Profil are you using and where do you have it from?
Hey Tim, I experimented with a third party icc profile, but ended up just sticking with letting the printer manage colours. I found that way to be close enough for what I need out of these prints.
Thanks for sharing your workflow and the excitement for this tiny one. I have the same. I was wondering, do you use a particular paper?
Cheers! I'm using the RP paper.
@@KyleMcDougall bought it finally. Now lost into that labyrinth that is Lightroom print module
Thanks for sharing! I’m considering getting one myself now so I was wondering which kind of paper do you use to print those pictures?
I believe the kit I bought came with RP paper. I bought the combo that came with printer and paper/ink pack.
Hello. Do you add the white border in LR or on the printer settings. Thanks.
Bought one a year ago but never got around to using it. Do I need/should I download Canon’s software, or just print from Lr (also, my daughter might use this printer on her Mac with Apple Photos, no Lr.)
Thanks!
I'm going to give this a go Kyle, I think being able to print at a decent price is going to help me see the big picture with set's of images.
Have you run out of ink yet? If so, do you know how many prints you can make on one cartridge?
I believe around 50 images per cartridge.
This sounds (and looks) like a solution for my 4x5 images - it would be 1:1 (at least without the negative border)! Also affordable, quite small, and no need to mess around. I could test it with my iPad. And I could have some of these prints in my backpack to show curious people what I'm doing with this old-style contraption on a tripod …
Sounds like it could be a good fit, Christian!
@@KyleMcDougall Many thanks that you brought this up! What a simple idea. The funny thing is: I have a friend who's really old and had such a device (a very old model he can no longer get cartridges for) and brought some prints when we met - but I never realized that it could be for me! I might give him a tip that he could have a look on the newer model, but perhaps he would have trouble to connect it to is ancient notebook (I mean, like *really* ancient ;-)).
Got one off of Facebook marketplace for £40 - one of my greatest purchases :)
Nice score.
amazing!! thanks for sharing! which ink/paper are you using i have found a few options from canon. they look to be the same but have different names so just curious.
Cheers, Carlos! I’m using the RP paper.
Great video, ended up picking up the Selphy 1500. How did you hang those photos on the corkboard? Some kind of double sided tape?
Nice! I used 'bluetack'.
Thanks you so much for this video, Kyle. I have decided to buy the Cp1300 and i am just setting it up. I printed black and white first and am pleased with the results, but after printing some colour images, the photos are visibly much darker in the shadows. Is there any tips or workaround you had to do to setup the printer to print correctly from lightroom? thanks.
I did notice that a bit with mine, but nothing too drastic. You could always try adjusting the shadows before printing-raising them a bit. I'm sure with a little testing you may be able to find a general setting that you apply before hand.
Ahhh this is great, watched this video and went straight out and bought one…any advice on getting it to print with white borders printing direct from LightRooom?
I actually didn't change anything in LR other than setting the margin size as low as it will go, and setting the cell size as large as it will go. From there it just prints with a white border.
Hi, would you happen to know if you can use other paper than canons postcard paper. I have some epson ultra pre matte and luster paper I cut to size from wasted roll paper and really want to know if this would work.
What icc profile did you use for your print settings?
Great video Kyle. I was wondering how much on average per print would cost. I make test prints at local big box lab for less than US10c a print. I guess if it wasn’t much more to print using this little printer it would be worth it for the joy and ease of printing at home or making the odd print here and there for testing and just seeing a print for sequencing etc when using a professional printer is overkill
It works out to about $0.30 a print. So a bit more expensive, but nice to have the ability to do it at home quickly.
Hi Kyle! thanks for this video! looks like a purchase I'm going to make this black Friday! haha! one question, what about lightroom export settings? what DPI do you export the photos for printing to? I've never printed my photos before and I'm very excited to try this out!
Hey Justin, that would all depend where/how you're printing and also the size. If you're using a lab, they'll usually have recommendations on their website. Typically, a larger image will end up around 300/360DPI, depending on the final output size and the original resolution.
@@KyleMcDougall thanks for replying! Man, I’ve just been rewatching this video for the past few days, (and actually right now 😂) because your voice and tone is so relaxing! I was holding the 1300 last night really on the verge of purchase! 😂😂😂
@@KyleMcDougall hey kyle!! just dropping by to say I got the 1300 today! can't wait to try it out! :)
Thank you for the video Kyle! Do you need to buy separate ink for black and white? Do the black and white photos have a bluish tint?
Great question!
Cheers! And nope, same paper/ink. All that I do is go into the 'print settings' and make sure that I check 'Black and White'. That solved the tint issue for me.
I bought a Canon pro 10-s a few years ago and it’s like entering into a relationship. I was selling the odd print on Etsy and the cost of firing the printer for a single print just wasn’t worth it. If it makes you feel better I think the Canon Selphy line actually predates the ‘selfie’, my other half has one and great as no ink to dry up or waste on a cleaning cycle.
That does make me feel better, haha!
Hi Kyle! Do the prints last in time? or do they tend to disappear or lose colors after a while?
Sad this doesn’t have an answer. I too would like to know.
thanks for a great video on this product Im kinda curious is it possible to use a different brand paper ? like a typical inkjet or does this product have to use the canon specific paper? cheers
Gotta use the specific Canon paper.
@@KyleMcDougall dang thanks man
Kyle, how would you go about different format sizes, for example, with 6x6 on the Hassie, etc.?
I'd just use the most amount of vertical space possible, and then leave the white on the edges. Could also trim if you wanted afterwards. :)
Can you show how to add the borders?
Cool printer but I can’t figure out why the borders are symmetrical when I print from the printer menu or iPhone but asymmetrical when I print from Windows. Any ideas?
I have just ordered such a printer, I want to print pictures from our trips etc. and after all, I don't think it's more expensive in terms of paper and color cartridges than our regular Canon printer, in fact quite the opposite
Awesome prints! What photo paper you use for prints?
I'm using the RP paper.
Looks like there is a new model the CP1500 which says it will print semigloss or satin finish too. Might have to check it out. I have the Fuji Instax wide printer but I have not been very happy with it
Ohh, didn't know that it used different papers. That's definitely appealing to me.
@@KyleMcDougall my understanding is the same paper but they figured out how to modify the final top coat to give a different finish
Can you print the photos without the frame?
Great idea to have such a printer as Canon Selphy 1300. I have been wondering if I should buy an Epson A2 or A1 printer. They make absolutely gorgeous prints I can live with, when I sell pictures, but there is a big but. It will stand useless for months, when I'm on my journeys, and all problems with that. Not only cost, but also frustrations. Better to buy printing service when needed.
For sure. All about what you need out of the printer. I think, as mentioned if you're not selling a lot of volume, and don't have a consistent need for large prints, then something like this is a great option.
@@KyleMcDougall When I have something I think is a great picture, I will not believe the picture on the screen. I will see it on a wall, if there's anything to improve it, and how. My kind of process, to know if I'm satisfied with it.
If you take pictures, you might find six good pictures every day. On the weekend, when you see all of those, you will pick six good pictures. After a year, you might have six good pictures, and after a life, how many of all of your pictures will be remembered by others. Well, it might be six pictures.
My rule is, if I don't want that specific picture on my wall, who will then want it on their walls?
Interesting video!! I would have loved you mentioned the cost of these smala prints
Cheers, Pedro. If you buy the Canon paper/ink pack, it works out to around $0.30 a print. Not the cheapest, but I'm ok with it for convenience.
@@KyleMcDougall it is a very fair price in my opinion!! I might end up buying one, firtstly for personal memories but maybe for work prints too!! thanks for your answer
How would this printer print Xpan 65:24 photos? I would like to print my own photos for personal use but a lot of my photos are from my Xpan. I am looking for a simple printer as this but I have not seen a single review on CZcams or any information Google on how this printer would work with Xpan format.
It would be pretty small print. 6" wide max, plus whatever the height would work out to.
Hi Kyle, how come some of your photos have an even border and others don’t?
Bought one and i'm pleasantly surprised by the image quality! Just curious though, do you have any alignment issues with your paper tray?
I printed from Lightroom like you have here but my images aren't really centered aligned, it's more off to one side. For example if I print portrait, the white border on the left is larger than the white border on the right of the image. Just wanting to know if you're experiencing that too or is it just me
Hey Chris, can't say that I've had any alignment issues. Maybe could be the printer itself-some sort of defect?
@@KyleMcDougall Ah damn, guess I gotta message support. Do you have any wiggle room in your tray when you load your paper or does it like perfectly fit?
Would anybody know about how many prints one cartridge could make? Or is that number too variable
Not 100% sure, but I think it's around 50-60 per ink cartridge.
ive got the 1500. Its an absolute hassle dealing with crappy software.Sometimes it connects...sometimes it doesnt.
Strange. No issues at all for me with the 1300.
I wish I knew how well this did black and white.
Would like to know where you get your sellable professional work printed? Lab?
I use a lab here in the UK called dStudio. They've been excellent.
Thanks. I forgot I am in the USA.
Hi, how do you put photos on the board? It seems there is no pins.
Blue tack. :)
I think you just sold a bunch of these for Canon as Christmas presents
Got a CP1500, all of the prints came out with lines on them, sent it back.
Damn, sorry to hear that.