My dream died, and now I'm here

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  • čas přidán 4. 04. 2024
  • This is my contribution to bring the "you" back into CZcams #uinutube
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  • @veritasium
    @veritasium Před měsícem +35998

    After finishing my PhD I went to a university-led session on ‘What Comes Next.’ What I heard sounded a lot like “now, you beg for money.” It was so depressing to think about all the very clever people in that room who had worked so very hard only to find out they had no financial security and would be spending most of their days asking for money. I realized that even what I thought of as the ‘safe path’ was uncertain so I may as well go after what I truly want. That led me here.

    • @davidj4266
      @davidj4266 Před měsícem +980

      This. This I had to see for myself - the money begging approach, the insecure job of 2 or 3 years and then beg for more.
      I was disheartened with this also. Having a family and the need to be secure, I took my PhD into industry rather than academia. Unfortunately, I didn’t get paid for that extra achievement and feel like I’ve never fully reached my potential. All because I couldn’t get the proper assurance behind the question of, ‘and then what?’.
      However, getting a PhD is enjoyable and certainly fulfilling. But be prepared to do something different afterwards.

    • @WhoCares-zn8gp
      @WhoCares-zn8gp Před měsícem +415

      Couldn’t agree more here. I feel somewhat fortunate to have shifted my perspective in pursuing my physics PhD program as a time to learn, have fun, and then move to industry. It’s rather disheartening watching hardworking people pursue the academic dream, while making all kind of sacrifices (both personal and those related to academic politics), just to aim for a position that may or may not work out.

    • @jamskinner
      @jamskinner Před měsícem +85

      Find a job in applying your knowledge.

    • @fruz1378
      @fruz1378 Před měsícem +15

    • @vishwanathhalkeri9839
      @vishwanathhalkeri9839 Před měsícem +178

      I just finished middle school and wanted to be a physicist, now I'm rethinking my dreams

  • @soggytablet4852
    @soggytablet4852 Před měsícem +12839

    Your willingness to call 'bullshit' by its name is one of the reasons I watch your channel. Hats off, carry on!

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem +33

      Its a good way to make money.

    • @Elo-hv3fw
      @Elo-hv3fw Před měsícem

      @@paintspot1509 it's an excellent way to be truthful..

    • @Celeste-in-Oz
      @Celeste-in-Oz Před měsícem +135

      Agree. My PhD was made that much harder by the need to sift thru 100’s of bullshit papers (pointless, poor quality and written simply to fish for citations) that Sabine calling it, is very satisfying!

    • @enemdisk6628
      @enemdisk6628 Před měsícem +11

      This

    • @Elo-hv3fw
      @Elo-hv3fw Před měsícem

      @@enemdisk6628 BS is a name.
      Welcome to am. Engl

  • @Anonymous-rj2lk
    @Anonymous-rj2lk Před 13 dny +381

    No, Sabine, you have not failed, its the system that have failed you.

    • @hendrikbruns3580
      @hendrikbruns3580 Před 11 dny +5

      Unfortunately it's still people that suffer, not the system.

    • @AtrozGrima
      @AtrozGrima Před 10 dny +2

      My psycology therapist would say otherwise. Its not the worl that must change for you. I know, a partial minded view but most people would support that claim.

    • @Anonymous-rj2lk
      @Anonymous-rj2lk Před 10 dny +6

      @@AtrozGrima its the easiest to always blame yourself even though you met all the criteria required to not fail, but this claim fails the logic test, so there must be an outside factor that intervened and sabotaged you, and in Sabine's case it's the system. how come a post grad in physics cant find a job in research?? sounds ridiculous to say its her fault after she did everything the system demanded.

    • @MTheoOA
      @MTheoOA Před 10 dny

      Capitalism wasn't good as she thought

    • @morpheas768
      @morpheas768 Před 9 dny

      @@AtrozGrima Psychologists have no clue how society works, they are always focused on the individual, and dont bother with anything else.
      They arent smart people, they act smart but know almost nothing.
      It is bitter, sad, but true.

  • @Dahello90
    @Dahello90 Před 3 dny +12

    I'm going to send this video when asked why I dropped my PhD. So real, I'm glad I did that sooner.

  • @Tubeytime
    @Tubeytime Před měsícem +7913

    The real tragedy is that you almost didn't post this video. People NEED to know what kind of world we live in. This was more valuable than 99% of commencement speeches.

    • @skippy6086
      @skippy6086 Před měsícem +103

      I gave up physics to become an electrician. ZERO REGRETS. 👍

    • @mutantmagnet
      @mutantmagnet Před měsícem +44

      This has always bothered me when I heard about people with masters degree doing work vastly different from what they worked so hard for and I was left wondering most of the time, how is this happening. This was very illuminating and I'm seething.

    • @estherstepansky5256
      @estherstepansky5256 Před měsícem +27

      @@skippy6086 I need an electrician frequently which is why I became one too. I have never needed a physicist and one reason I opted not to study it in college despite it being fascinating.

    • @MrCesarification
      @MrCesarification Před měsícem +23

      No offense, but she did a video on why capitalism is awesome not long ago. Many of us have been saying this for years. This is not news to LOTS of people.

    • @minoc2
      @minoc2 Před měsícem +2

      agreed

  • @aerozg
    @aerozg Před měsícem +5671

    Hearing your story reminded me of that Franz Kafka quote:
    “I was ashamed of myself when I realized that life was a costume party, and I attended with my real face.” I am glad you stood your ground after all. We need more people like you, and not just in Academia.

    • @jessemalone8083
      @jessemalone8083 Před měsícem +107

      Excellent quote.

    • @TymexComputing
      @TymexComputing Před měsícem

      At the Time of Franz Kafka There were yet no socialist Euroland countries promoting some bulshit agenda , but it was starting at that time. Global democracy is a scam.

    • @Dennis-zk4bn
      @Dennis-zk4bn Před měsícem

      Except that anyone with integrity leaves academia because it is a rotten swamp in which only shrewed and greedy people thrive... The higher up you get in the organization, the less integrity they have. Especially in the highly prestigious institutions. The corruption and self-interest is rife and little to no meaningful science is done anymore, so anyone with integrity leaves. Scientific discovery has almost completed stopped in regards to large discoveries because research there isn't profitable...

    • @networknomad5600
      @networknomad5600 Před měsícem +48

      There's no good reason to wear a mask and lose your integrity. You can use your actual self, you just need to know your boundaries and have actual confidence.

    • @thebearded4427
      @thebearded4427 Před měsícem +98

      Any business or undertaking these days is a emotional marathon, and anyone who puts their real self on the starting line will lose the emotionally draining commitment. Kinda the whole reason emotionally dettached people are more successful and why it seems like no one cares in business meetings.

  • @yvonneglanville2094
    @yvonneglanville2094 Před 14 dny +122

    Also a physics PhD. Fighting for funding and fighting against petty administrators pushed me out of experimental condensed matter physics. Now I'm a high school teacher. I applied to corporate jobs but when you are so specialized and the job market is up and down it is really difficult finding work anywhere in the world. I had trouble fitting into the machinery.

    • @FallNorth
      @FallNorth Před 10 dny +7

      A place where I worked, 3 of the software developers had Physics PhDs. Only so many places for them in research really when you think about it.

    • @melchezi8818
      @melchezi8818 Před 9 dny +7

      Somewhere theres a kid that is so glad you are his teacher. Somewhere theres a kid who recalls your teaching and recognizes your efforts. Somewhere theres a community that is glad you are part of it. Add infinitum.

    • @JS-vh4yq
      @JS-vh4yq Před 6 dny

      The education system is an indoctrination camp meant to turn all who attend into wage/salary slaves serving and making the big dollars for the powerful elite.

    • @Azradok
      @Azradok Před 4 dny +1

      Were you also told getting your undergrad "oh you can do anything with a degree in physics?" That's the line they sold me on. No way I'm teaching HS with the way schools are. Hats off to you.

    • @Azradok
      @Azradok Před 4 dny

      @@FallNorth Physicists have data. There were supposed to be a lot of jobs in the last 10-15 years in physics. There haven't been and we have the data as to why. Boomers mostly decided not to retire around 2008 when the crash happened. They've been staying in their jobs.

  • @OlBoris
    @OlBoris Před 4 dny +27

    I'm a PhD, and have a very similar understanding of modern academia. It is great that you have posted this video. Thank you

  • @user-mu5yq7wq4y
    @user-mu5yq7wq4y Před měsícem +8225

    Dear Sabine, No, you have not failed. That you're not doing the "bs" scientific works doesn't mean that your dream of becoming a scientist failed. You're one of the best scientific minds, and your contribution to the field shouldn't be underestimated. You succeeded. Your dream is being materialized in a bit unique but beautiful way.

    • @SabineHossenfelder
      @SabineHossenfelder  Před měsícem +2142

      Thanks for the kind words, really appreciate that. It makes it all worthwhile. ❤️

    • @GenXCoder
      @GenXCoder Před měsícem +300

      Yes Sabine, please keep challenging the status quo and hopefully we will return to caring about true scientific inquiry and not how to milk grant money to stuff institution's pockets.

    • @djbabbotstown
      @djbabbotstown Před měsícem +94

      I hope you’re making some of them youtube bucks at least Sabine. Keep em coming.

    • @dinninfreeman2014
      @dinninfreeman2014 Před měsícem +195

      ​@@SabineHossenfelderit sounds to me that the academics failed you

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před měsícem

      the greedy swines get their claws into everything, they don't care about what goes on, they are just there for the $$$. And as usual, literally everything and everyone else suffers.

  • @kevind.mccarthy2450
    @kevind.mccarthy2450 Před měsícem +12774

    Thank you for sharing Sabine, we love you!

    • @martacollell
      @martacollell Před měsícem +97

      Yeah!! we do! ;))

    • @jrodgers33
      @jrodgers33 Před měsícem +74

      My thoughts exactly!!

    • @arnoutsmit8951
      @arnoutsmit8951 Před měsícem +61

      Me too ❤

    • @user-oi5nu2nn7p
      @user-oi5nu2nn7p Před měsícem +99

      Thank you Sabine! You are a great educator and human being.

    • @memegazer
      @memegazer Před měsícem +20

      I want to push back that it's not token capitualation that results in the glass ceiling for women.
      And programs that require diversity and representation do not reenforce outdated world views, but I respect feeling frustrated that they are not a comprohensive solution either.
      I refuse to take away the victories of civil rights champions of the past that forced the hand for those capitulations, even if there is still more work left to do.

  • @bbacher95
    @bbacher95 Před 12 dny +133

    "The bureaucracy must expand to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

    • @ToTheStars327
      @ToTheStars327 Před 10 dny

      Yep, also sounds very german to me.

    • @morpheas768
      @morpheas768 Před 9 dny +4

      Its not just bureaucracy, it is the entire monetary system.
      It has failed us, but we wont see it. So we continue the absurdity, at the cost of both human lives, as well as overall mental health and well-being.

    • @recur68
      @recur68 Před 6 dny +1

      @@morpheas768 - it's costing the planet more, which will have the last laugh ultimately...

    • @MohammadBenSalamah
      @MohammadBenSalamah Před 6 dny +1

      @@morpheas768 The current monetary system is successful: It is doing what it is supposed to do, and with great efficiency. What it is supposed to do, however, is transfer wealth from the masses to billionaires.

    • @Luxedrina
      @Luxedrina Před 6 dny

      That sweet spot when bureaucracy becomes a Ponzi scheme.

  • @JupiterThunder
    @JupiterThunder Před 14 dny +26

    From the obituary of Peter Higgs, Daily Telegraph, April 9, 2024
    Higgs formally retired in 1996, having long complained that the university [Edinburgh] only kept him on just in case his work won a Nobel Prize. He was horrified when in 2017 the university named the Higgs Centre for Theoretical Physics in his honour, insisting that in today’s climate he would be unemployable in academia.
    “I don’t think I would be regarded as productive enough,” he said, pointing out that the entire output of his career amounted to barely a dozen published papers. “A message would go round the department, ‘Please give a list of your recent publications’. And I would send back a statement, ‘None’,” he said.

  • @B76SkyWarrior
    @B76SkyWarrior Před 26 dny +1623

    As a grad student, I had a professor plagiarize an entire term paper of mine which he used as a chapter in his book. My complaint to him and the department fell on deaf ears. I was told that my worked belonged to the professor because all grad work belonged to the professor who taught me. What a bunch of garbage.

    • @Greengeist05
      @Greengeist05 Před 26 dny +154

      Holy Sh!t… does this mean that plagiarism is a feature and not a bug of the academic landscape?!?!🤬😳

    • @freshmanenglishhelp
      @freshmanenglishhelp Před 26 dny +52

      Did you get any credit/mention in References as a contributing graduate student?

    • @AnotherEmi
      @AnotherEmi Před 26 dny +31

      That's absolutely crazy! Surely that would be illegal??

    • @taylermontgomery2004
      @taylermontgomery2004 Před 26 dny +59

      My University (as most in America) expels fraudulent plagiarists, but I've never heard of professors being fired for the same reason. Do you have a link to your original publication online for us to compare his book to?

    • @B76SkyWarrior
      @B76SkyWarrior Před 26 dny +11

      @@freshmanenglishhelp None at all

  • @bedlambreakfast5548
    @bedlambreakfast5548 Před měsícem +1314

    "He got angry, and I laughed at him..."
    I love it.

    • @lukewest4691
      @lukewest4691 Před měsícem +11

    • @SF-fb6lv
      @SF-fb6lv Před měsícem +26

      My respect for you hit a new high when I heard you say that!

    • @josephjanitorius797
      @josephjanitorius797 Před měsícem +19

      My admiration for Sabine shot up 10-fold when she said that (and it was already very high)! I wish more people had her guts.

    • @luizamaralphd
      @luizamaralphd Před měsícem +24

      Probably the most german part of this video. Loved it.

    • @Pcarnevaaa
      @Pcarnevaaa Před měsícem +7

      Literally iconic

  • @hellhound45vil
    @hellhound45vil Před 9 dny +20

    I'm very glad you did post this video. As a disillusioned postdoc stuck in an endless loop of writing hollow research papers to get grants that retread work already done decades earlier (with a fresh coat of the latest buzzword added); all the while trying to make ends meet on a salary you wouldn't need to go to school for in the first place, with no job security and my mental health destroyed; I feel happy to know there are ways out of this wretched system. You're not alone in feeling like you never fit in - a lot of us feel like our dreams are dead.

  • @cxar71
    @cxar71 Před 9 dny +10

    I love your no-BS approach, your directness, and your intrinsic honesty. Keep doing what you're doing, you are clearly very good at it and it's highly appreciated by a lot of people in here. 💪

  • @sercem7314
    @sercem7314 Před měsícem +1557

    "I am failed", something we rarely hear on social media, while everyone tells success stories here. Bold statement

    • @gregh5061
      @gregh5061 Před měsícem +55

      Hi failed, I'm dad

    • @Noqtis
      @Noqtis Před měsícem +11

      @@gregh5061 Hi dad and failed, I'm Sigma DeLigma

    • @aliceglass828
      @aliceglass828 Před měsícem +22

      failed is a bold statement indeed given she has a phd and raised two children

    • @gregh5061
      @gregh5061 Před měsícem +35

      @@aliceglass828 people have different standards for success I suppose. You could have two noble prizes but if your goal was to cure cancer and you failed, you'd consider yourself a failure, I guess.

    • @aliceglass828
      @aliceglass828 Před měsícem

      @@gregh5061 no shit sherlock

  • @ApprendreSansNecessite
    @ApprendreSansNecessite Před měsícem +2768

    My jaw dropped. That was a very powerful testimony.

    • @user-ec3rm9wr1n
      @user-ec3rm9wr1n Před měsícem +6

      Hahaha we exist 😂😂😂 .....

    • @meisbackforever
      @meisbackforever Před měsícem

      ​@@user-ec3rm9wr1nwho?

    • @andersfant4997
      @andersfant4997 Před měsícem +18

      No real news though.. Its how it works

    • @EvgeniBelin
      @EvgeniBelin Před měsícem

      ​@@andersfant4997 this may be obvious to insiders. But it was news to me

    • @user-ec3rm9wr1n
      @user-ec3rm9wr1n Před měsícem +7

      @@andersfant4997 if you were trans and rich and your father is billionaire things would be different

  • @shadidsciencetechhealth1534

    Thank you for your honesty and pulling the curtain back on the very flawed instutions of academia. I would also like to express my graditude and appreciation for your being her on CZcams. I've learned so much for you and look forward to learning more!

  • @DrDave-Ecologic
    @DrDave-Ecologic Před 8 dny +7

    Hi, Sabine - I have had a different experience of academia, maybe partly because I've been a Prof at a smaller university where there is much less emphasis on grinding out papers and much more emphasis on sharing information with curious young minds. I'd like to make two points: 1) I admire you for telling your very personal story to your audience, and 2) although what you are doing now was not your original dream, I think it is in fact HUGELY IMPORTANT and that you have found your true calling in being such an effective educator on the Internet. As you stated, information is expanding so quickly that it is growing beyond our means and our time to learn it all. What we need more than people writing more papers is people explaining what all this information means in understandable terms. You are VERY good at this! So keep your chin up and keep doing what you are doing. You are providing an extremely valuable service!

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin Před 22 dny +728

    "The moment you put people into big institutions, the goal shifts from knowledge discovery to money-making" is the key quote of this video.

    • @Frank-ej8hd
      @Frank-ej8hd Před 21 dnem +31

      No, the goal shifts to "sustain the institution (aka bureaucracy)".

    • @jmanwild87
      @jmanwild87 Před 20 dny +18

      @@Frank-ej8hd which mostly involves making money to be fair

    • @JediYutu
      @JediYutu Před 19 dny +6

      Uh Sabine, pensions and health benefits, are very important to "normal" American working ppl too. 😂

    • @kingofsiamgt
      @kingofsiamgt Před 19 dny +4

      I disagree, everything on earth is about making money in some form, so this statement is quite anodyne. There is something else going on in academia besides greed - proof is that everyone who works there is poor.

    • @leahsander5490
      @leahsander5490 Před 18 dny +4

      - Sabine "Capitalism is good, actually" Hossenfelder.
      One more example of why natural scientists would be well served to occasionally listen to a social scientist.

  • @soroosha
    @soroosha Před měsícem +4034

    That's exactly why I never went back to academia after my master's. It was all about what to do to get that extra grant. Everyone (including myself) was writing bullshit to get grants. I used to want to become a scientist since I was a child. The reality killed that dream for me too... I totally get it.

    • @Joker22593
      @Joker22593 Před měsícem +840

      Same here. Publishing has so much metagaming, that it's not producing good work. My thesis adviser told me to split my paper up into 3-5 papers, publish them separately and have them all cite each other to inflate my impact numbers. I knew academia was bullshit as soon as that was suggested.

    • @SabineHossenfelder
      @SabineHossenfelder  Před měsícem +754

      You did the right thing.

    • @irifhir
      @irifhir Před měsícem +282

      The institutions are failing, and in order to save the scientific knowledge to go down with it, we need people teaching straight to the public, and not only the raw science, but all the epistemological nuances around it. You are a brave and inspiring person! Thanks ❤

    • @bootstraphan6204
      @bootstraphan6204 Před měsícem +74

      When the questions you want to find answers to (buy doing science) collide with "will said answers make line go up?"
      Will your quest to unlock the mysteries of the universe be profitable? Isn't as much "reality" as it is "Capitalism".
      You, as an individual, might have as much luck changing the laws of physics as you would changing the effects that Capitalism (specifically the profit motive) has on doing science.🤷‍♂️

    • @StefanLopuszanski
      @StefanLopuszanski Před měsícem +113

      But what's the alternative that already exists? Universities have huge issues but they still do focus on topics you'd never see a fully commercialized industry indulge. It is an evil but a lesser evil. What else is there?

  • @derekdalton5658
    @derekdalton5658 Před 2 dny +3

    You didn't fail, Sabine. A corrupt system failed you. So happy to see you have reinvented yourself and found peace and a sense of fair exchange. You inspire me to keep trying to find a better future.

  • @AtlisWerks
    @AtlisWerks Před 16 dny +13

    As an ex-researcher for a German uni institute, your description of how the system works was spot on.

  • @landondyer
    @landondyer Před měsícem +925

    My dad was a scientist, and I watched his constant struggle with politics and funding. He had a stress-related heart attack at 50; he survived it, but was never the same afterwards.

    • @womenwelove
      @womenwelove Před měsícem +28

      it's sad that happened to your dad

    • @asia1174
      @asia1174 Před měsícem +2

      “Was”, did he retire or quit? And I’m sorry your dad was out through that kind of stress..

    • @margarethamaartje3716
      @margarethamaartje3716 Před měsícem +1

      That is so sad! Im so sorry for your dad

    • @binbows2258
      @binbows2258 Před měsícem +2

      @@margarethamaartje3716 perhaps he died.

    • @imeldahaloho4798
      @imeldahaloho4798 Před měsícem +5

      I'm sorry for your dad! Hope his heart recovering and he takes care of himself better. Nothing is more precious than our health, not even our job or idealism.

  • @rwarren58
    @rwarren58 Před měsícem +2489

    A bit too much? Perhaps the best video of the year. Thank you for being you, Sabine. - Sacramento, USA

    • @lucassiccardi8764
      @lucassiccardi8764 Před měsícem +35

      Best video in the channel, IMO.

    • @eclectictech
      @eclectictech Před měsícem +32

      Bringing the issues to light is one small step towards the possibility of changing them in the future.

    • @legbert123
      @legbert123 Před měsícem +8

      She has been promoting this channel for years dont listen to the narrative she is pushing. She has been ALL about being a youtuber for years now for sure her work has dropped off look at the amount of time she puts in this channel!

    • @legbert123
      @legbert123 Před měsícem

      you sweet summer child@@eclectictech

    • @legbert123
      @legbert123 Před měsícem +5

      A bit too much? this is the worst example of a video this year. Sabine has been pushing this channel at the expense if actual research for years now any science realeated issue on this channel is fraught with innaccurate information and borderline lies.

  • @SuperNova153
    @SuperNova153 Před 6 dny +4

    It takes so much courage to be this honest. Thank you! This is exactly the type of communication we need. So happy you shared this.

    • @ronpapi9539
      @ronpapi9539 Před 3 dny

      You want real heartfelt testimony, just ask any immigrants crossing the border.

  • @squeezy99
    @squeezy99 Před 3 dny +2

    Thank you posting such a heart-felt appraisal of your experiences in academia. I can relate to much of what you described in your early career as a graduate student. It would have been a tragedy to have not posted this video.

  • @donaldquicke547
    @donaldquicke547 Před měsícem +3746

    I am a professor but totally understand the terrible rat race. i was once writing an academic book (rather well known one now) but my HoD knocked on my office door one day and told me that the university didn't value scholarship any more. i retired as soon as was financially able to, and moved to Thailand. never been back. Take care, Donald

    • @esecallum
      @esecallum Před měsícem

      thailand? is that not a dangerousplaceto be for a white man?

    • @memyselfandi8544
      @memyselfandi8544 Před měsícem

      Sawasdi kap. You and Sab have stumbled into the invisible walls of a technological house of cards. Science is supposed to be a process of discovery where we chose the most accurate way to describe observations, but that depends on who “we” are. We are not what you think we are. We are more like the subjects of the virtual world in the Matrix. Controlled with lies and a brilliant characterization of the world, however, it is built essentially on lies. We struggle not against the flesh, but against spiritual principalities in heaven and hell. It’s all about control, this world. God is. Choke di, farang.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo Před měsícem +185

      RE: the university didn't value scholarship any more
      I guess they are looking for foundations for their latest propaganda projects. Research is subordinate to policy. Findings that are contrary to their policies, or their imagined ideal world, is not appreciated.

    • @ibubezi7685
      @ibubezi7685 Před měsícem +134

      @@elbuggo _"101% of sociologists confirm that their research proves that climate-change is 102% manmade."_

    • @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
      @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Před měsícem +148

      @@ibubezi7685 I always get a kick out of people who loudly proclaim "all the scientists agree on climate change", as if science was a democracy and the facts should actually care what scientists think.

  • @angelicarosegalvan
    @angelicarosegalvan Před měsícem +1434

    Hi Sabine, I’m a third year PhD student in bioengineering and I just want to say thanks for making this video. You’re the only person who I’ve heard describe exactly how I feel about academia. My dream has died too and most of the time I feel crazy because no one else seems to feel the same way, but thank you for making me feel less alone. You are brave and lovable ❤️

    • @SamRossman
      @SamRossman Před měsícem +29

      Same, while it sucks I hope you also value that you figured it out early in your academic career and not a decade and a half later….

    • @ramseygo121
      @ramseygo121 Před měsícem +18

      damn I'm just about to go into bioengineering😭

    • @takoja507
      @takoja507 Před měsícem +16

      All this makes me happy that I'm "just" a practical nurse (as we call it here in Finland) and never had the drive for academy studies. I'm in a job that I really like and enjoy, even tho money ain't great, no stress etc at all tho :)

    • @thierryfaquet7405
      @thierryfaquet7405 Před měsícem +21

      @@ramseygo121 it's fine, but do it for industry, not academia.

    • @calamitysangfroid2407
      @calamitysangfroid2407 Před měsícem +13

      I'm in my second year of an evolution/genetics PhD. My lab group and the biology faculty is pretty communal and this sentiment of cynicism is common around us. We're kind of aware this is all one big passion project, and some of us might become rockstars but others are like those Disney channel celebrities who disappear after 5 years and show up working at a small town car dealership. Not sure if anyone's actually considering continuing in academia. A lot are looking at industry or government employment (our department is marine and conservation biology, in a country where seafood and agriculture are major exports).

  • @chenacom
    @chenacom Před 13 dny +9

    Someone finally has the courage to say "The emperor has no clothes"

  • @infinidhi
    @infinidhi Před 7 dny +3

    I have loved your absolute candor and conviction since I started reading your articles while you were at the Perimeter Institute. I too have had a similar academic journey as yours. My dream died too and I am glad that it did because I was miserable by the time I finished my two postdocs. I had to evolve and adapt, and now I am happy where I am. I thank you for sharing your experience and continuing to share your physics knowledge with the world.

  • @iqvoice
    @iqvoice Před měsícem +1181

    This matches up exactly with my 16 years at NASA. A colleague of mine called it "playing the doctor game", because all the PhD's were battling each other for the few secure jobs while the majority languished as grantees.

    • @millanferende6723
      @millanferende6723 Před měsícem +12

      "Science" (Which means "through the knowledge of")...literally means being open to truth, wanting to explore the actual truth and to want to know the truth.

    • @millanferende6723
      @millanferende6723 Před měsícem +19

      The other one, opposite one (cannot name the term because of the censor), is the desire for money, grants, more grants, desiring to promote a problem rather than a solution to keep a job, propagating biases and being afraid to look in another direction out of fear of being chastised and reprimanded.

    • @la-gl4uh
      @la-gl4uh Před měsícem +1

      You sound like you were a contractor instead of a government employee. Why didn't you hire on with the Federal Government?

    • @r13hd22
      @r13hd22 Před měsícem +5

      She got what she gave out to Kaku and others in his field daring to tell them that they were wasting resources that should go to real fields of study.

    • @atendriyadasa6746
      @atendriyadasa6746 Před měsícem

      This is precisely how The $ystem weeds out scientists w/ character standing on principle vs. those who'll readily sell out (i.e. produce & publish the results The $ystem wants). 😉

  • @krishnamoorthysankaranaray4057
    @krishnamoorthysankaranaray4057 Před měsícem +736

    "The moment you put people into big institutions the goal shifts from knowledge seeking to money making." Very well said.

    • @LA_HA
      @LA_HA Před měsícem +3

      What is the background of the university president? Is it Philosophy or Education-focused?
      Or is it Business-centered?

    • @wendyleeconnelly2939
      @wendyleeconnelly2939 Před měsícem +2

      @@LA_HA It might not matter. It might be comparative literature. The system is so entrenched. The one university president and his/her pet projects may have only slight impact on what is expected and what gets done.

    • @LA_HA
      @LA_HA Před měsícem +1

      @@wendyleeconnelly2939 True and that's what I'm saying. The choices given in the type of candidates has a lot to say about what is going on within that institution.
      This is directly tied to what's happening in the PS/K-12 school system. What's happening there?
      In short, traditional values and education have been replaced with "progressive" values and disinterest in educating school children due to CRT and leftist ideological organizations that openly brag about how they're not in the education business anymore. They're in the political business now and going forward.
      This is Taught to students, who then go to college, graduate with this mentality and belief system, and then become college employees and professors.
      The connection is there for anyone who takes a moment to look. Except there's a problem...
      Thinking isn't taught. In fact, it's banned

    • @geneduffy
      @geneduffy Před měsícem +4

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@LA_HAwrong, for instance CRT is a college course. Next progressive values I guess by that you mean critical thinking skills and a focus on S.T.E.M. It’s funny because traditional values and education immediately brings to mind religious schools where if the science doesn’t fit your 1500 year old horror anthology than the science must be wrong. Also what do you mean by traditional education , the humors, leach therapy, miasma, aroma therapy, chiropractors , or maybe phrenology. I am however sorry that conservatives long ago lost in the market place of ideas I just wish you guys would stop trying to sell people on your SECOND lost cause movement. We are not going to go back in time there is a reason progress is the root word of progressive. This time of traditional thinking wasn’t so great by the way most people call it the dark ages where positing a new theory might get you thrown in ye olde gaol maybe just for suggesting a non heliocentric view of the universe.

    • @LA_HA
      @LA_HA Před měsícem +3

      @@geneduffy [Edited for clarity] Thank you. I'm so glad you did exactly what you did. Otherwise, I would have wasted my time thinking an actual conversation was possible.
      Good Day

  • @BarrieM
    @BarrieM Před 4 dny +2

    Thanks Sabine, as an ex-academic scientist working for a national institution and now self employed forest science freelancer and I totally sympathize with your situation and experience. The great thing is that you give me (and thousands of others) the opportunity to have fun learning new things about our universe during my breaks. This process will accelerate interest in science and lead to who knows what discoveries. I call this a win win situation. You are wonderful and I can totally understand the marriage proposals. (Don't worry I am happily married with two kids who also love science).

  • @gototcm
    @gototcm Před 14 dny +26

    She is absolutely spot on. And kudos for putting your kids first. We need more Sabines.

  • @GaynorOFlynn
    @GaynorOFlynn Před měsícem +2439

    With 1.2M subscribers you have a real job! A real role, a real voice to teach what ever you want to teach! Genius!

    • @eoinoconnell185
      @eoinoconnell185 Před měsícem +70

      Yep. The funny thing is, she has more subscribers & viewers than most TV shows.
      Highly successful.

    • @Frolova3434
      @Frolova3434 Před měsícem +59

      That’s certainly more attention than papers get

    • @CrimeaRiver
      @CrimeaRiver Před měsícem +27

      Until, of course, CZcams shuts her channel down for some obscure reason.

    • @molybdaenmornell123hopp5
      @molybdaenmornell123hopp5 Před měsícem +22

      ​@CrimeaRiver But people have heard of her now.

    • @mackyj7801
      @mackyj7801 Před měsícem +9

      Yes her brand imagine is valuable, once you get to her level on CZcams, type of content ,influence tv networks come chasing you.

  • @maritrnning5357
    @maritrnning5357 Před měsícem +892

    I just loved it when you said NO to work for that professor, THATS what I call true integrity 🤩

    • @Broken_robot1986
      @Broken_robot1986 Před měsícem +16

      Yeah big balls for that, props.

    • @pimpilikaa
      @pimpilikaa Před měsícem +1

      @@Broken_robot1986 yes, pukaaluwo

    • @LaplacianDalembertian
      @LaplacianDalembertian Před měsícem

      Science is Dead, only China and Russia care about it.

    • @Snake369
      @Snake369 Před měsícem +11

      that was definitely baller. absolutely nothing unreasonable either.

  • @annebright3852
    @annebright3852 Před 13 dny +6

    As someone who's been struggling with the trajectory of my career, I thank you whole heartedly for posting this video. You are an amazingly strong person.

  • @michalpaucula7694
    @michalpaucula7694 Před 14 dny +5

    It would have been such a shame, had you not posted this video. I think your experience needed to be told and you're such a refreshing voice to listen to. Everything happens for a reason and I feel you are making the right impact. I stumbled upon your video by chance but it immediately made me want to subscribe to your channel.

  • @cesarmenor-salvan9535
    @cesarmenor-salvan9535 Před měsícem +910

    As a scientist struggling with the broken academic science system, I resonate with all that she said and it's totally spot on

    • @johnboze
      @johnboze Před měsícem

      Start with some real science and you will NO LONGER STRUGGLE: Vacuum Ambient EM Field Dipole Theory aka Quantum Inertial Dipole Theory aka Graviton Theory aka Dark Mass / Energy Theory aka Vacuum Zero Point Energy Theory aka PLANCK PARTICLE THEORY is T.O.E. postulated by the Germans and brought to fruition by US DoD via Defense Contractors like Lockheed that solved TOE so the Pentagon gave them cart blanche on CASH to designed and build working Quantum Field Densification Drives aka HFGWGs and they solved during technical material science issues during SDI STAR WARS Weapons Programs of the 1980s and 90s and the result is "UAPs" aka Hypersonic Weapons in the news for years! Work EM FIELD DRIVES have been flying for MORE THAN 4 DECADES! Now You Know Too! #FiringRoom1

    • @casualnerdjason6678
      @casualnerdjason6678 Před měsícem +52

      When I was a grad student, I saw how the brilliant, wonderful postdocs were worn down. Not by their bosses or their science, but by the system. And after 4+ years as postdocs, they were still earning less than brand new public school teachers.
      We love our science but have to make a living, too.

    • @justbeegreen
      @justbeegreen Před měsícem +25

      It’s the same for public school teachers - the system burns a human out.

    • @elonever.2.071
      @elonever.2.071 Před měsícem

      @@casualnerdjason6678
      You have the background for understanding physics now you need to take your knowledge to the edgy side of physics that is making great strides in understanding the workings of our reality. Materialism is as dead as the Big Bang is now. The new frontier is of a Conscious Universe where observation collapses the wave function into particles and atoms which creates matter as we have seen over and over again in the double slit experiments. Good luck on your journey. Remember it is always better to abandon a sinking ship early rather than later.

    • @shidiskas
      @shidiskas Před měsícem +4

      Its also my story!

  • @lowelllarsen5947
    @lowelllarsen5947 Před měsícem +585

    Got fired from a job you didn’t have!
    What a world we live in!

    • @suestreet9934
      @suestreet9934 Před měsícem +38

      I’ve had a rejection letter for a position I never applied for. I wish now that I’d kept it.

    • @dgalicen2876
      @dgalicen2876 Před měsícem +12

      Now THAT'S a badge of honor to wear proudly! And so is your astuteness in pointing it out. 😊

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Před měsícem +3

      @@suestreet9934 -I got an approval for a gambling licence I didn't apply for - lol...

    • @segevstormlord3713
      @segevstormlord3713 Před měsícem +6

      Power-tripping is extremely common in academia.

    • @Zen_Power
      @Zen_Power Před měsícem +2

      Should have reported to him to hr and have him dismissed.

  • @ralphstarling6707
    @ralphstarling6707 Před 7 dny +3

    Beautiful! You nailed it! I just subscribed! Looking forward to hearing more about what you are passionate about! Bless you!

  • @snakedogman
    @snakedogman Před 16 dny +6

    Thank you for being so open, honest and vulnerable Sabine!

  • @jamesmarie1083
    @jamesmarie1083 Před měsícem +532

    I'm a PhD. physicist who never really had any hope of a career in academia. I really appreciate your honesty and telling it like it is. I have always found academia to be pretentious, arrogant, and intellectually stuffy. Thank you for making this video. You've earned my respect.

    • @jeravincer
      @jeravincer Před měsícem

      And you’re a man?!?

    • @FernandoChaves
      @FernandoChaves Před měsícem +2

      So, what do you do?

    • @Happyduderawr
      @Happyduderawr Před měsícem +3

      Only academics use words like "intellectually stuffy" hahaha

    • @glennwoodruff2398
      @glennwoodruff2398 Před měsícem +2

      Hopefully you didn't get a job as a "Calibration Technician" for a company that does NIST certification of equipment. So many physics majors with BS degrees seem to enter that job market.

    • @jarnoldp
      @jarnoldp Před měsícem +14

      I was a PhD student, but I only finished with my masters. This was due to the lack of consistency between classes and the PhD exam. They would put problems on there that even the professors could not solve. They had an extra credit point system to wear a few published papers prior to the exam, you would be given credit towards the exam. There was at least one student who never took the exam and passed because they had enough papers within two years. and this is only because the professor was putting that graduate students name on the papers, even though they just started.

  • @Walter-Montalvo
    @Walter-Montalvo Před měsícem +1494

    Not too much, it is just right and honest. Don’t ever change!

    • @SabineHossenfelder
      @SabineHossenfelder  Před měsícem +271

      Thank you from the entire team!

    • @chronixchaos7081
      @chronixchaos7081 Před měsícem +28

      Well done you.

    • @berniehaberemeier2053
      @berniehaberemeier2053 Před měsícem +25

      Given the system appears to be so broken, and given it’s the people’s money at work, what could the people do to demand change? Does this have to stay broken forever?

    • @ConwayBob
      @ConwayBob Před měsícem +30

      @@berniehaberemeier2053 -- Excellent questions! To which I humbly add one more: Is the academic establishment even worth trying to fix, or do we need to replace it with something better?

    • @siraaron4462
      @siraaron4462 Před měsícem +17

      ​@@berniehaberemeier2053spreading awareness helps. (Knowing is half the battle) But I've seen various proposals that would change the incentive structure to support good science; rather than Shitposting in scientific journals for grants.
      As for how to get people to adopt these new incentives? I think things will have to get worse before they get better. People are going to keep doing things just the way they are until they can't anymore.

  • @elenafetter9690
    @elenafetter9690 Před 2 dny +1

    Thank you for being on You Tube!!
    We need your thoughtful takes on all of the subjects you share with us!❤

  • @violetamaury1837
    @violetamaury1837 Před 16 dny +3

    The fact that what you are describing is an experience universal enough for me to relate to the point where I am specheless (have in mind I am in the other side of the world in the completely diferent field of social sciences) shows how important is for people like you to share their experiences THANK YOU!!!

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek Před měsícem +411

    Thank you for posting this! I am 82, left the US for Germany in 1965, earned my PhD with work at a Max Planck Institute and after a 12 year stint at the MPI I got a pure research position at a major German university. I was an electron microscopist, so a lot of people needed my help. I managed to publish 100+ papers and never had to write a grant proposal. I finally became disillusioned with science in general and just wound up helping others with their research. I also struggled to help my female coworkers get the credit they deserved for the work they did. Science was always more of a hobby for me. I write this just to say, your mileage may vary. I'm sorry you had such a bitter experience, but you have taken the bull by the horns and certainly have a greater scientific impact now than if you had just gone on in research. I love your videos and your sense of humour. Liebe Grüße aus dem kühlen hessischen Vogelsberg.

    • @MrQwertyman111
      @MrQwertyman111 Před měsícem +22

      I believe I had the pleasure of reading one of your papers. Good to see people of science remain around it, even when retired. All the best to you good sir!

    • @BruceBoschek
      @BruceBoschek Před měsícem +14

      @@MrQwertyman111 Thanks kindly.

  • @buybuydandavis
    @buybuydandavis Před měsícem +534

    Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy:
    In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.

    • @wadehines9971
      @wadehines9971 Před měsícem +23

      In isolated islands, visionaries who understand this law gain power and work hard against it.
      But it's a Sisyphean task.

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 Před měsícem +25

      Witness the ratio of administrators to teachers in the California State University system. 18 to 1 in against the instructors!

    • @JNobleDaggett
      @JNobleDaggett Před měsícem +7

      @@wallacegrommet9343 That's a bit deceptive. Some of those administrators support instruction. Some support research grants. Sabina isn't complaining about research load as much as research priorities.

    • @brianlemberger5022
      @brianlemberger5022 Před měsícem

      Thank you for sharing your experiences. Brave people such as yourself need to be honest about the state of physics and academia in order for it to change.

    • @gregorseidel8203
      @gregorseidel8203 Před měsícem +4

      Nice quote, I did not know this. To be fair, in my experience academic management did care about science, in so far as it relates to their own interests at least. Since the issues in academia (and academic publishing) go beyond each individual institution, however, I suppose it's easy to assign blame elsewhere and perpetuate the system rather than even try to change it. This perpetuation is, incidentally of course, also to the personal benefit of academic management.

  • @MissChanandlerBong1
    @MissChanandlerBong1 Před 5 dny +3

    You know what the scientific community needs? MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Thank you for your honesty and integrity.👏👏👏💖

  • @shininio
    @shininio Před 15 dny +8

    Just wanted to say posting this video was the right thing to do. Thanks for sharing something so personal but so relevant in today’s discussion about academia.

  • @jerril42
    @jerril42 Před měsícem +684

    You have not failed, "The System" is failing us all. Thank you Sabine for trying to broaden our horizons. Hopefully this brave outreach will start some meaningful conversation.

    • @mehranshargh
      @mehranshargh Před měsícem

      The sad part is that "the system" is made up of us, the academic people. We prioritize money, greed, and power, and in turn, make the life of other lower-level people miserable. Then, we blame "the system".

    • @ChaplainDMK
      @ChaplainDMK Před měsícem +11

      Same with NGO's honestly. A lot of people, social sciences degrees and similar stuff, who are so passionate to work with communities, with underpriviliged people, to try to approach existing issues with new techniques, are absolutely annihilated by the grant-money procedure. Just write billions of pages of bullshit, measure absolute irrelevant stats, write mind-numbing reports, and end up wasting 75% of your energy and time on all of this, and only 25% actually doing what you want to do and are actually applying for funding.

    • @generaltheory
      @generaltheory Před měsícem +7

      The really important part is that forum cretins will keep parroting "Peer reviews!" when such "trusted" institutions don't even have the minimal digital literacy, and I mean Harvards, too. Total rebuilding of scholarship is inevitable.

    • @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
      @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Před měsícem +3

      Go for a PhD in "The Art of Sustainable Bullshit" and you will be a winner.

    • @mehranshargh
      @mehranshargh Před měsícem +4

      The sad part is that the system is made up of us, the academic people; we prioritize money, greed, and power, and in turn, make the life of other lower-level people miserable. Then, we blame the system.

  • @simonburrows
    @simonburrows Před měsícem +625

    The wrong incentives always lead to the wrong results. Thanks for calling this out!

    • @SabineHossenfelder
      @SabineHossenfelder  Před měsícem +62

      Thanks from the entire team!

    • @eddierayvanlynch6133
      @eddierayvanlynch6133 Před měsícem +7

      Well said, Simon. Sad, but well said.

    • @ksenobite
      @ksenobite Před měsícem

      Yeah, spending days in YT 😂then playing victim card because life isn't easy. But she's not the only one, YT star physicists love to shine, but end up bitter and angry since they don't hand out Nobel prizes for clicks. And calling others bs (the terrible system that gave you free education) is easy, not so easy when its own

    • @orionbetelgeuse1937
      @orionbetelgeuse1937 Před měsícem +11

      now we can talk about how a certain "99% consensus" about some stuff involving the climate was obtained

    • @amigalemming
      @amigalemming Před měsícem

      @@orionbetelgeuse1937 If you question the "99% consensus" you can easily estimate the chance of getting a proposal accepted. :-)

  • @garytaylor82
    @garytaylor82 Před 14 dny +7

    Great video Sabine, I love your CZcams channel! I am 71 year old male physicist who experienced everything you talk about in this video. In particular I saw persistent discrimination against my female colleagues.

  • @user-ln5ub2lb1h
    @user-ln5ub2lb1h Před 3 dny +1

    What incredible honesty, a trait sorely lacking in today’s world. Thank you for posting the video. We all need a “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!” moment in our lives and you gave us yours. Fabulous! Oh, and I did subscribe!

  • @richardcoughlin8931
    @richardcoughlin8931 Před měsícem +525

    Speaking as retired full professor (social sciences) at a research university in the in USA I fully support your decision. You play a vital role as a public intellectual helping to educate non-specialists about the state of scientific inquiry in the physical sciences. Your CZcams videos reach many more people - several orders of magnitude - than typical research publications read by a handful of specialists. So I say Bravo! Keep up the good work.

    • @lighthousesaunders7242
      @lighthousesaunders7242 Před měsícem +8

      You've gotta admit, from the respected Popperian POV at least, social science should almost never be called a science?

    • @matteogirelli1023
      @matteogirelli1023 Před měsícem

      truer words were never spoken

    • @amihartz
      @amihartz Před měsícem +18

      @@lighthousesaunders7242 "Respected Popperian" bro hardly any academics of philosophy take Popper seriously. But yes, if you take Popper seriously, then you have to reject sociology and economics, and some of biology and climatology would also be on shaky grounds.

    • @link01uk
      @link01uk Před měsícem

      Bravo

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem +6

      The problem is these videos get hijacked by conspiracy nutters, rather then anybody who could do anything about the issues she raises

  • @TharkysOlafson
    @TharkysOlafson Před měsícem +409

    Unfortunately, this IS a universal story in academia. It's the dirty little secret that never seems to be talked about. Despite all that, I'm glad you have found a place for yourself and choose to share your thoughts and opinions with us all.
    Thank you for putting this video out!

    • @ronankelly4471
      @ronankelly4471 Před měsícem +16

      It is spoken about, but those outside the system .. do not get heard. Listen carefully to what she says.
      While a bit harsh to say, she *did* know what they were doing was wrong, and she played along with it,
      until they bit her.

    • @TmyLV
      @TmyLV Před měsícem

      Fenomenal true exposed. Dear Sabine you are so great, worry do not, you have imense quality and you are an exceptional person. The reward will come and one day you will be happy with the output, I am sure you are happy with what you are doing now and be pleased cause it is giving you satisfaction, you do very nice, it is another road in your career. One foot on the back one step ahead. Many people know your works and they follow your career and path and they like you the way you are.

    • @artichoke60045
      @artichoke60045 Před měsícem +7

      It's not really a dirty little secret. There are lots of ways to observe it, even as an undergrad if you work in someone's lab, some people who will confess especially if you ask the right questions, maybe not in physics departments because physicists have that personality. Sabine came from a family of accountants, they had some idea that money makes the world go round. Although the exact nature of academic research is something you have to experience it to understand. An outsider who doesn't know the field at an expert level won't know how much garbage is produced that serves merely to clog up the intellectual pipeline.

    • @Verpal
      @Verpal Před měsícem +4

      @@ronankelly4471 I don't know if I can blame Sabine though, she is but a human like us, and human need food on the table, especially for their family. I would like to imagine Scientist are just normal people who aren't particularly noble, nor should we expect them to be.

  • @annavitenkova8936
    @annavitenkova8936 Před 6 dny +1

    You are so good! So happy I found you on CZcams. Thank you for being such a good educator and making Quantum Physics easy to understand ❤ You are making difference by helping people like me to learn to understand and love science. It feels great to understand what you say.

  • @ladynerva
    @ladynerva Před 2 hodinami +2

    No, it's not too much. Thanks for sharing your story. It is brutally honest, and puts my mind at ease a bit. I also have left Academia, for some of the reasons you mentioned.

  • @Catcherinthecorn
    @Catcherinthecorn Před měsícem +424

    I love your honesty. My brother got a PhD in theoretical physics from an Ivy League university and he felt the same way you do. He left academia a while ago and works in software now, but he still does his physics and math research every day in his spare time. I admire him a lot.

    • @tatjana7008
      @tatjana7008 Před měsícem +18

      And thats why number of patents in Western countries decreased in last years. Chinese mastered it team work long time ago and thrive because of it, while here its all divide and conquer of talented motivated people

    • @Lavabug
      @Lavabug Před měsícem +18

      @@tatjana7008 What? US issued patents are a historic high. Also the number of patents issued has zero connection with fundamental physics research - the measure is peer reviewed publications.

    • @tatjana7008
      @tatjana7008 Před měsícem +17

      @@Lavabug first of all, Sabine is not from US, she tells about experience in Germany and Europe. Second, number of confirmed patents is much important then applications, and China leads there. Third, science is interconnected and discoveries in fundamental physics might influence practical applications as well. Thats why I do theoretical computer science, because it can influence every branch of science.
      About papers and publications, many chairs in my university interconnected with industry, and they often end up in patents.

    • @allan710
      @allan710 Před měsícem +7

      I also left academia, I really didn't like the way it works.

    • @Lavabug
      @Lavabug Před měsícem +13

      @@tatjana7008 The US issues more utilities patents than any other country, and many Chinese enterprises seek US patents as well. Practical applications have little to do with fundamental science, they are an accident. If you're using patent number to measure scientific progress, you have no knowledge of how science works or what counts as innovation. Patents only measure commercial products, not the generation of knowledge which far outpaces what patents indicate (I am a former patent examiner).

  • @Mavendow
    @Mavendow Před měsícem +414

    Glad you left the ending in; that sums up everything you said in one sentence. _"Societal pressures too often make me unable to speak, but here at least I can choose what I say."_

    • @berniv7375
      @berniv7375 Před měsícem +9

      This is by far your most brilliant video.❤

    • @07Flash11MRC
      @07Flash11MRC Před měsícem +10

      That conclusion is no true. YT's terms and the algorithms decide what you can and can't say and or write on this platform.

    • @penponds
      @penponds Před měsícem +2

      We will in fact, never know if Sabine can actually choose what she can say on CZcams until the point she get’s regularly de-monetised or de-platformed.
      Rumble is where she’d be if in fact she did want to comment in a non-CZcams compliant way.
      Sabine is simply just operating in a field that is less socio-politically contentious.
      She’s far too intelligent to imagine her sitting in Plato’s cage with her back to the light, which makes that final statement very puzzling. Rather than underscoring her position, it undermines the viewer’s confidence that she truly understands the assaults on freedom of thought and expression and journalistic investigation that so very very many are experiencing right now.

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow Před měsícem

      @@07Flash11MRC - edit that comment, to make it say what you intended... ??

    • @Racistobama
      @Racistobama Před měsícem +1

      The fact that this statement is apparently no longer in the video is incredibly suspicious. I assume Sabine was either was forced to edit it or did so out of concern that those "societal pressures" were going to come to bear on her.

  • @marksegall514
    @marksegall514 Před 2 dny +1

    You are absolutely right about everything! It will take many years for me to recover from the emotional damage that I sustained from my later years as an academic! Thanks so much for sharing this!

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 Před 7 dny +3

    Sabine has 1.29 million people that respect her and consider her the greatest teacher they have ever had . Success is measured by how many friends you have . ❤

  • @joefearn9694
    @joefearn9694 Před 29 dny +1120

    I achieved my PhD in philosophy when I was in my 40s. I'm an ex miner. After graduation, I became a security guard until retirement. My PhD was a classy route to poverty. So I'm glad you posted this. Dr. does look good on my drivers licence.😅

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 Před 29 dny +147

      I appreciate "my PhD was a classy route to poverty". It's the case for so many.

    • @garydorfner6695
      @garydorfner6695 Před 29 dny +43

      The wife of the US president is also a Doctor. She's a school teacher with a doctorate in education and demands that people refer to her as "Doctor". The title is meaningless.

    • @inertia179
      @inertia179 Před 29 dny +5

      Why didn't you become a university prof?

    • @Blade.5786
      @Blade.5786 Před 29 dny +9

      What a coincidence, I'm also an ex-minor

    • @titandarknight2698
      @titandarknight2698 Před 29 dny +29

      @@garydorfner6695 Not really meaningless. She just isn't a doctor in the common sense.

  • @Arcgateway
    @Arcgateway Před měsícem +515

    And it's the story of a successful science educator who touched millions and made the world a slightly better place. Thank you, Sabine.

  • @7grand-dad900
    @7grand-dad900 Před 10 dny +3

    I just discovered your channel today watching your commentary on String theory and its history. I love your videos and they’ve reminded me why I find physics so fascinating. You’re brilliant and I think you’re serving humanity and your mental health much better by bringing these issues and concepts you love to an audience who appreciates your passion more than some stuffy asshats on a review board.

  • @ernestoespinoza92
    @ernestoespinoza92 Před 7 dny +2

    From a former aspiring astronomer I also felt like my dream died when I couldn’t get into academia. But that’s life and thank you for sharing! You made me feel better with my current situation knowing how honest you are. I respect that a lot. I do enjoy your videos because they allow me to think differently from all these other science videos that all almost all the same.

    • @lauracorriss9538
      @lauracorriss9538 Před 5 dny

      Like you, I wanted to become an astronomer. It was my mom who convinced me that it wasn't a practical field for most, particularly a woman. I studied udied computers and database design instead and never regretted it. Astronomy can be a hobby.

  • @rbrbrts
    @rbrbrts Před 24 dny +335

    Near the end of my PhD, my advisor wanted me to take a paper I wrote for PRL and write a longer one for PRC and I told him I didn't feel like there was really anything more to say for our work. I later felt bad as he ended up not getting tenure which left me in a weird state as I finished my degree without a local advisor and thus no advocate or mentor at the university. I ended up set loose as soon as the paperwork was signed on my diploma. I ended up like a lot of physicists, working in finance, and after getting married and having two children, there really wasn't any going back. Plus the realization that my notion of what academia is like was really, like yours, more of a romantic dream rather than the reality. I don't really miss academia, I miss what I thought academia was supposed to be.

    • @pillsber
      @pillsber Před 19 dny +9

      Perfect response-and almost exactly my same story: the idea-or dream-is very different than the reality. I never finished my Ph.D because of this.

    • @Ducktility
      @Ducktility Před 19 dny +1

      Thanks for sharing.
      What role are you currently working in finance?

    • @EyanZ1997
      @EyanZ1997 Před 19 dny +1

      How did you made your skills as a physicist applicable to finance? It’s obviously transferable to those that know but employers don’t always fall under that category

    • @rbrbrts
      @rbrbrts Před 18 dny +1

      @@Ducktility I really just do software development, but in a financial context for back-end calculations.

    • @rbrbrts
      @rbrbrts Před 18 dny

      @@EyanZ1997 Well, in the mid-1990s when I finished, that was not really true. Physicists were desirable for implementing numerical models, especially if they had software skill. Since I worked for two years in software before grad school, and did a lot of modeling in grad school, it was an easy sell.

  • @michaelrogers4834
    @michaelrogers4834 Před měsícem +401

    Sadly, your diagnosis of the problems with academic research institutions is spot on.

    • @Lamarth1
      @Lamarth1 Před měsícem +9

      Actually, it's worse than that. There are other parts of the system that she hasn't yet looked at closely enough to realise how rotten they are. Most people don't reset their expectations for the parts they can't see to keep in line with the parts they can.

    • @johndor7793
      @johndor7793 Před měsícem +4

      @@Lamarth1 what parts?

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@Lamarth1 nonsense

    • @darkmatter21_xx
      @darkmatter21_xx Před měsícem

      ​@@johndor7793gotta be a flat earther or something Lol

    • @amigalemming
      @amigalemming Před měsícem

      @@johndor7793 For instance the Perpetuum Mobile that allows scientific publishers to generate revenue from thin air.

  • @7igor7
    @7igor7 Před 14 dny +1

    I like your videos a lot,
    I came because of the science stuff, and kept watching because of the life lessons,
    I really relate with the way you speak and your worldview in general.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @MichaelBlackstone777
    @MichaelBlackstone777 Před 11 dny +2

    I am very glad you DID post this video. I loved it! Thank you, Sabine. I suppose I should tell you why I loved it... I can hear you psychically asking, "I'd love to know..." I find you authentic, genuine, knowledgable, smart, refreshing, funny, refreshing... all in all, you are quite entertaing to learn from.... I don't get that very often from someone. Thank you!

  • @jguenther3049
    @jguenther3049 Před měsícem +647

    The ghastly level of replicability of published scientific work tells me you're right.

    • @grawss
      @grawss Před měsícem

      It truly is ghastly, though I've spent a horrific amount of time reading through epidemiological studies in food and health science so I'm a bit biased. Sometimes the most basic critical thinking can rule out the conclusions of well-cited research papers, but it gets published anyway because you don't get that sweet sweet grant money otherwise, and nobody actually cares anyway. They're just people with jobs who are afraid to lose their jobs.

    • @joostvhts
      @joostvhts Před měsícem +48

      replicability, and reproducibility!

    • @yomin2162
      @yomin2162 Před měsícem +25

      Biological sciences have their own problems (the reproducibility crisis), but it's a bit different from physics.

    • @EricManzane
      @EricManzane Před měsícem

      @@yomin2162 ecology trying to hide

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk Před měsícem

      Exactly! Without replication and falsifiability, there is no science going on. Our modern knowledge is 95% shifting sand.

  • @drtmvoss
    @drtmvoss Před měsícem +480

    I am glad you posted the video! As a female academic approaching retirement (and not with a pension), I can definitely relate to what you experienced. With 24,614 comments as of my posting, it is unlikely that you will see this, but THANK YOU.

  • @ctaylor1460
    @ctaylor1460 Před dnem +1

    No, I don't think your video was "too much", but rather was completely on point--and appreciated.

  • @JohnHowshall
    @JohnHowshall Před 9 dny +1

    I’m glad you posted this video. I’ve watched your content over the years but only just subscribed because of THIS video. It was truly inspiring to me.

  • @RobG.-pf7fo
    @RobG.-pf7fo Před měsícem +212

    Also a retired academic. I had decent employment, was intellectually challenged, had more free time to accomplish what I wanted than I ever would have found in any other job, but at the same time was always disappointed by the lack of collegiality and any sense of cohesiveness in the department. The milieu - populated with tremendous egos, some earned, some not so much - made for a very lonely existence. I did my research, taught my courses and went home, spending as little time on campus as possible. There were very few friends to be found in such a environment. I loved my students - the only real saving grace. Thanks for your videos.

    • @mattinykanen4780
      @mattinykanen4780 Před měsícem

      Is it the doctoral defence which turns ourselves so offensive afterwards?

    • @tiro0oO5
      @tiro0oO5 Před měsícem +9

      Hey, sad to hear that. This sounds like bad luck, but you are definitly not alone.
      I build a new team at a company, interviewed many phd‘s. The easiest way to get them excited, was telling them that they would work with others on a common goal. I could literally see the spark in their eyes, as if they saw light for the first time after 3 years.
      I myself got lucky, my time during my phd was great. Insanenly interesting topic, bde ent success in my work and outstanding colleges.

    • @fly_8659
      @fly_8659 Před měsícem +4

      The only way to get a sense of cohesiveness was to threaten to merge the department... the only time Architects seem to get along is when you suggest that the department might be replaced with a double degree of Arts and Engineering.

    • @bill8216
      @bill8216 Před 17 dny

      @@fly_8659 hehe good story.

  • @claudiabrugman6842
    @claudiabrugman6842 Před 18 dny +274

    Sabine, a brilliant summary of a common PhD experience. Much like my own. Thank you for pulling back the curtain.

    • @vincentzevecke4578
      @vincentzevecke4578 Před 16 dny +2

      Sabine, she is damn right

    • @JupiterThunder
      @JupiterThunder Před 14 dny +3

      I did a PhD. The main finding of the work was that PhDs are a waste of time (which wasn't actually a new finding).

    • @manoo2056
      @manoo2056 Před 12 dny

      ​@@JupiterThunderit just keep the wheel turning and you learn a lot in the process like what drugs work best to write XD

  • @MD-wm1jg
    @MD-wm1jg Před 14 dny +4

    Thank you for your honesty. I have similar experiences in academia. But once one is disillusioned about it, you can focus on things that really matter and not follow the social pressure.

  • @kimsland999
    @kimsland999 Před 15 dny +2

    Brilliant.
    I've watched many of your videos, which always seem to pop up every few weeks or so. BUT I wasn't subscribed, until now. So I'm unsure how you got the algorithm worked out but who cares as your videos are honest (true) and that's all I care about. Well done.

  • @crs1456
    @crs1456 Před měsícem +339

    After 18 years, this is my first comment (and likely last comment) on CZcams.
    Thank you for posting this. I don't work in academia, but so much of the world feels this way. I have always admired your forthright courage, and I am saddened that somehow, academia cannot find a way to benefit from your tremendous intellect, talents, and convictions.
    Good luck out there!

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem +3

      This is just a single person's opinion on a huge field.

    • @TheMelik85
      @TheMelik85 Před měsícem +4

      THIS IS ACADEMIA.

    • @donnasummer6285
      @donnasummer6285 Před měsícem +1

      @@TheMelik85 unfortunately

    • @EinsteinsHair
      @EinsteinsHair Před měsícem +3

      crs, sometimes I understand your reluctance to comment. I have left reasonable, helpful comments, and someone took them the wrong way. On occasion I tried to follow up, but too often got more anger back. Now I generally ignore angry comments, and move on with my life.
      I have seen other CZcamsrs talking about some of the problems with academia. There are comments to this video in which they talk about leaving academia for other careers, such as medical, software, or industry. Unfortunately, nothing unique about this video.

    • @danielh.9010
      @danielh.9010 Před měsícem +2

      @@paintspot1509 Unfortunately, many in academia share the sentiment of Sabine. Just read the comments by fellow scientists.

  • @rileyhoffman6629
    @rileyhoffman6629 Před měsícem +200

    You lasted longer than I did... finished my PhD (having survived broken bones, deaths, years overseas research, changes in Committee, and a mother who said, "...but you are still unmarried") I quit academia and moved to Italy to milk cows and make wine. Now I write novels. I do miss the intellectualism. but not the politics. Love you, Sabine!

    • @kurkenfruit
      @kurkenfruit Před měsícem +6

      Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I took a gap year between getting my bachelor’s and going to graduate school. It’s now been a five-year gap year because I thought better of it after meeting lots of people already in the meat grinder. I sometimes wonder where my career would be, but I’ve found myself on a path more interesting and worthwhile to me.

    • @Weberbros1
      @Weberbros1 Před měsícem +4

      Care to plug your novel?

    • @rileyhoffman6629
      @rileyhoffman6629 Před měsícem +15

      @@Weberbros1 heck yeah! Thanks! Rachel Hoffman, SALTINE (Otis Books, 2021) No self-help, no politics, no trauma: just humor and humanity for smart adults who need a mental vacation...

    • @__rikaisuru
      @__rikaisuru Před měsícem +4

      @@rileyhoffman6629 that's the best pitch I've ever heard for a book in this day and age!

    • @jinfin221
      @jinfin221 Před 17 dny

      In the end you won.

  • @jimboha
    @jimboha Před 5 hodinami +1

    Thank you for posting this video!! I have a physics undergrad degree but sensed these issues you bring up, though I am not female. So I changed to computer science and worked as an engineer. Now I am very happy to watch your content and continue learning (about!) the things that I truly love. Thank you for your work.

  • @generaalsubutai6541
    @generaalsubutai6541 Před 12 dny +1

    Glad you posted this. It is very enlightening and confirms some of my own experiences and unease with current academic practise.

  • @GI-bg3th
    @GI-bg3th Před měsícem +178

    I attempted my PhD starting in 2019 at a federal research institute and was shocked to find what Sabine is talking about. Dozens of smart people working as PhD students, post docs or engineers were repackaging the same old data they produced years ago or followed outdated ideas with seemingly no use just for the sake of writing papers. The people there knew the absurdity of the situation but the need for money and job security overshadowed everything else. Finally after two years that shattered my scientific curiosity I broke out of that madness, cancelled my PhD position and left the academic world.

    • @kevinfox3875
      @kevinfox3875 Před měsícem +15

      Unlike you it dawned on me in my final year In college, that whilst I had adored science from my childhood, it was a career that I could not afford to chase for the rest of my adult life. Though the bug has never left me, today as I approach my 80th, year, real science education has become so accessible, thanks to you, and many like you on the net. Your wide variety subject matters, dispensed in your unique presentation style, I find educational and repeatedly amusing. Keep up the good work Sabine and stay true to your beliefs.

    • @productivitysharma3455
      @productivitysharma3455 Před 28 dny

      What you do now ?

  • @cognitronz
    @cognitronz Před měsícem +355

    Thanks for sharing your story. We love your style, your humor and your honesty! The world needs more of you.

    • @legbert123
      @legbert123 Před měsícem +17

      100 bucks well spent

    • @lyrapuff7502
      @lyrapuff7502 Před měsícem +23

      @@legbert123you clearly know nothing about her channel and the things she's working on man o.O

    • @parodynet3004
      @parodynet3004 Před měsícem

      @@legbert123Lmfao, so salty that you have to scroll down and talk shit about a person enjoying and supporting a content creator. It's his/her money and instead of being a douchebag, you could have used that time to actually start looking for a job!

    • @Usefulmusic
      @Usefulmusic Před měsícem

      @@legbert123 What a nasty man!

    • @petewest3122
      @petewest3122 Před měsícem

      @@lyrapuff7502 Such as?

  • @DerekVuong7799
    @DerekVuong7799 Před 12 dny +2

    Please post more of this! This has to get out there! Thanks so much for your work! PS I have no idea what you post, I just came across this video and just subscribed to you. I've never done that. Maybe once but I've watched a lot of youtubers and never subscribed to them.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 Před 12 dny +1

      She also wrote two brilliant books.

  • @AhmedHussein-qb9eb
    @AhmedHussein-qb9eb Před 10 dny +1

    It's 10:23 AM where I'm settled right now, and I want to say that it's a blessing to come across your video at the beginning of my day, as it was a blessing that you did NOT decide NOT to post this video.
    Alhamdulillah (الحمد لله, Thanks to Allah) I came here; your words did ease many old (and recent) pains in my heart!

  • @lloydy3250
    @lloydy3250 Před měsícem +433

    I'm a gardener with a lay interest in physics. Gardening is no bullshit in an otherwise cynical world. It makes for good health both physical and mental. I already had enough bullshit as an undergrad. The boffins careened off into ideological space and lost touch with the natural world, and all the brain-work made me depressed, so I started digging holes, moving rocks and planting shrubs, and this is a much happier place. I'm glad you escaped that miserable, dishonest path and took the path of truth. It is an inspiring story, and I'm a big fan.
    Most inspiring comments section here, too.

    • @GregorShapiro
      @GregorShapiro Před měsícem +23

      Gardening is dramatically helped by cow manure and bullshit is not shunned either. (The REAL bullshit, not the bullshit bullshit!)
      ;-)

    • @george1187
      @george1187 Před měsícem +4

      Hear , hear !

    • @yourface07
      @yourface07 Před měsícem +4

      Good for you lloydy! I wish you great success

    • @gldfsh_
      @gldfsh_ Před měsícem +3

      I’m actually thinking of going this route! It’s nice to hear someone who’s done so!

    • @soulscanner66
      @soulscanner66 Před měsícem +2

      The fact is, the amount of screentime required in any academic pursuit is unhealthy unless it is rigorously managed.

  • @inf2380
    @inf2380 Před měsícem +707

    Female biologist over 40 from Germany here.
    That's exactly how I see it. Not only from my own experience, but also from that of many acquaintances.
    At the beginning, you're quite happy that you can do what you like without being bothered. By the time you write your thesis at the latest, you realize the difficulties of the system that you describe. I was also irritated by the inaccuracy with which results are produced, at least in biology. As soon as you are in the system, you also see the incompetence (technical, organizational, human) of other researchers. I often had the impression that some were simply in the right place at the right time and were just willing to play along with this application circus.
    As a woman, it's particularly difficult if you want to start a family. It's hardly possible without help, including financial help, from grandparents. I know some who have made it at least some way, but only with the help of their parents.
    Yes, the system is weak. I've seen many excellent young researchers leave because they didn't want to play this game.
    Nevertheless, I have also met nice, very competent colleagues who have made it - but very few.

    • @Coolbunny-
      @Coolbunny- Před měsícem +31

      "I was also irritated by the inaccuracy with which results are produced" THIS, ohhh you can't image how this makes me angry.

    • @gdiwolverinemale4th
      @gdiwolverinemale4th Před měsícem +3

      In the beginning, we were all ignorant and delusional. Then the realities of this world became apparent. Why be bitter about it?

    • @AnglophobiaIsevil7
      @AnglophobiaIsevil7 Před měsícem +15

      You're supposed to be able to have a husband bring you, the mother the resources to give birth and raise your child. We have always been able to do this until the petrol dollar was invented and bankers realized they would need more workers or the system would crash too soon.
      One parent gets the resources and contributes to society. The other parent raises the child and contributes to your family. Corporations have demanded that both parents be tapped for work and our children have suffered dearly for it. In Ireland it's actually in their constitution that should this ever happen they have a right to dissolve the gov and start over(should a mother ever be forced to work in order to raise her child as this is the entire point of society, we know we can make a society where only one parent needs to work and so any society where 2 must is a failure and they KNEW THIS). I don't think they enforce it or they just give welfare checks to them.
      Regardless, only serfs and indentured servants were made to have mothers work. We have been enslaved and told it was empowering.

    • @lovepeoplehu9883
      @lovepeoplehu9883 Před měsícem +6

      At least you are an independent, strong empowered wahman❤

    • @SchalaZeal1
      @SchalaZeal1 Před měsícem

      I thought scientists were infallible? Sounds like we've been sold another lie by the atheists.

  • @brettmartin2754
    @brettmartin2754 Před 18 hodinami +1

    Thank you for sharing your story. It brought tears to my eyes. I have personally witnessed the same. You're making a greater impact than the paper factories now!

  • @Johnny-fw9xj
    @Johnny-fw9xj Před 2 dny +1

    I'd argue that you and other scientists who are sharing their knowledge to a larger audience is a huge service to science in general. I do realize that this is not your passion but I just wanted to express my appreciation and gratitude for what you're doing.
    You and a couple other YT science channels are planting the seed to many future scientists minds and that's something to be proud of. 👍

  • @TimsWildlife
    @TimsWildlife Před měsícem +255

    Dear Dr. Hossenfelder, dear Sabine, I am a marine biologist from The Netherlands and active in academia. You echoed all my frustrations about our world. Thank you for speaking your mind ❤. I too challenge my peers by asking whether they really think they're going to change the world or simply keeping themselves in business. The result: denial, or better termed cognitive dissonance. I too dream of a youtube career, but I suck at it 😅. Best of luck to you, Sabine, and thank you for your wonderful videos.

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem

      You do know people can tell when you are BSing right. Nobody goes into marine biology thinking they will "change the world".

    • @severpop8699
      @severpop8699 Před měsícem +6

      fake it till you make it, and don't count on youtube, post on 4 or 5 different platforms, facebook, odysee, rumble, tiktok, maybe discord, etc.

    • @zet0korp
      @zet0korp Před měsícem +4

      What do you do as a marine biologist?

    • @paintspot1509
      @paintspot1509 Před měsícem +2

      @@zet0korp don't believe everything you read in CZcams comments.

    • @shadowmoon1657
      @shadowmoon1657 Před měsícem +1

      Change the world? You’re one of those scientists. Im glad they ignore you. Wait for the next Era, the world would have changed.

  • @alex49
    @alex49 Před měsícem +254

    Thank you for your work on CZcams. You touch millions of people, some of which will become the next Einstein thanks to you.
    I'm excited every day about your next video.

    • @sjl197
      @sjl197 Před měsícem +10

      As an unemployed former multiple postdoc, I feel her pain. This emotional and actual support here above is epic. I wish I too could give such financial gift. The honesty in the video was refreshing, the absurdity of academia failed her, not the other way around. It’s bull****

    • @markandbeck
      @markandbeck Před měsícem

      @@Elo-hv3fw Just like He Who Shall Not be Named made Harry Potter.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo Před měsícem

      Unfortunately Albert was a HUGE HUGE fraud. Weird so many bright people are unable to grasp that. Read Phyllis Schlafly's book.

    • @davidg4288
      @davidg4288 Před měsícem +1

      @@Elo-hv3fw Yeah, that guy.

  • @jsl209
    @jsl209 Před 5 dny +1

    Appreciate your realness Sabine! Love you channel and everything you do and appreciate your insights across all the topics you cover. If I could fund your research I absolutely would!

  • @zeitxgeist
    @zeitxgeist Před 17 dny +28

    Glad to see higher education is just like the workplace. Pay the people doing the least the most, pay the people doing the work the least.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 Před 17 dny +6

      So true, exactly my life´s experience. And she´s another example!

  • @user-hw3vo3hf2r
    @user-hw3vo3hf2r Před měsícem +231

    "I think I owe you an explanation"
    - No you don't, but I am glad you did give it anyway and I found your perspective very interesting.

  • @ianburton9223
    @ianburton9223 Před měsícem +334

    I agree with you entirely. I walked away from this weird world of writing papers in 1971, utterly deceived by the rat race of the conflict between publishing and keeping things secret to prevent someone else publishing before you. Expanding human knowledge was not the priority - it was just an immoral competition for grant money.

    • @frankfahrenheit9537
      @frankfahrenheit9537 Před měsícem +8

      And that was in 1971? Already?

    • @teyemanon1970
      @teyemanon1970 Před měsícem +3

      @@frankfahrenheit9537 This hit! 1971!

    • @ich3601
      @ich3601 Před měsícem +4

      You did academia in US? Germany imported this system somewhen in the 90".

    • @ianburton9223
      @ianburton9223 Před měsícem

      @@ich3601 I was in the UK in 1971.

    • @wadehines9971
      @wadehines9971 Před měsícem

      Read a biography of Sir Richard Francis Burton.

  • @DuirBlack
    @DuirBlack Před 3 dny +2

    It's remarkable how similar the stories from academia are from people that are willing to talk about it openly.

  • @notgoodyet8842
    @notgoodyet8842 Před 9 dny +2

    Frank and honest espousal, as we have come to expect, thank you. I watch you for understandable insights for my layman's brain. My wife, who is a leading academic in her field, uses you as a go to source when she needs a quick precis of subjects she is not familiar with and thinks highly of your presentations, (she doesn't think highly of many so take it as a complement). Keep up the good work.