Fitting Water Methanol Injection to an RS3 | THE BALLER PACKAGE
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- In this video we treat this RS3 to our stage 2 plus package which includes Water Methanol Injection, We explain more in depth what WMI is, The pro's and cons and a little of the fitting process.
The map switching was setup as follows -
Map 1 - stock - 402hp/519nm
Map 2 - 97 octane - 526hp/632nm
Map 3 - 99 octane - 535hp/645nm
Map 4 - 99 octane + wmi - 566hp/676nm
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These guys are what you can call professionals and absolutely knowledgeable about what they are doing not like other places th mat will fit parts and wait for it to blow the engine
We like to set cars up that will last, be reliable and can be daily driven. We are all for it! I steer customers away from setups that I know will be unreliable or problematic. I don’t need any more stress in my life and neither do my clients!
It's one thing hearing a tuning company saying they implement map switching and failsafe's, it's another thing actually seeing this work live! Would be great to see you guys do a video going through your motorsports mapping features if possible :) Amazing content, you have a new follower
Thank you for the kind words, new video dropping tomorrow. Stay tuned! I will do a future video on the motorsport tuning package but at the same time I am trying to make the videos so they don't focus on a single topic for the entire video and make them more fun to watch :)
These guys are really gonna go somewhere huge great video explaining the meth setups and top work!!
Thank you so much 🙏🏽
Really well explained on the function and process of it all. Great content
Thank you so much, look forward to bringing you a lot more content. Anything in particular you'd like to see? :)
I love the channel wish for more content. Hope you guys all the best and I love how detailed are explaining.
Thank you, new video dropping tomorrow. Appreciate the support!
Very informative video yet again. Really appreciate the metaphor about the swimming pool effect.
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Been waiting on this one for a while! 🙌🙌 Brilliant!
Glad you enjoyed it, anything in particular you’d like to see from us next? :)
Excellent video man, I love how informative and well explained they are. Unfortunately you all are across the Atlantic and I have only an S3 haha.
I hope this information gave you some good insight of a water methanol injection kit :)
So informative and as always clearly the best at it!
Thank you so much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! More to come!
You guys are Top Notch!!!
Thank you!! Any ideas on how we can improve? Always striving to do better!
Hybrid turbo upgrades and necessary bolt ons needed, Hybrid turbo vs Hybrid turbo for X amount of hp/tq, max hp/tq for stock turbo, best motor oil to use for various stages of mods, 1&2 step colder plugs and their proper applications, what stage or hp/tq do you recommend TCU tunes, what wheels do you recommend for weight savings, what suspension mods do you recommend for street racing, headlight upgrades, Haldex servicing intervals and oil recommendations, How much Hp/tq can the OEM Airbox handle, intercoolers and is IROZ better than the rest, is the IROZ or JDY oil pan upgrade really necessary, how much hp/tq can the OEM RS3 transmission handle, DCT clutch upgrades at what hp/tq level, Is the IROZ flywheel necessary??? What are your opinions on CTS Turbo products vs Unitronic, Catted Downpipes vs Non Catted and what brand do you recommend?
If I think of anything else I’ll let you know. But I would say anything that has to do with modding. You guys are doing excellent content!!!
@@leosrule5412 Noted!! Stay tuned :)
One thing that has me a little nervous about WMI kits is ensuring there is an equal allocation of function/effect across all cylinders. How well do these injectors atomize, and what location is best for integration to ensure appropriate mix before it hits the cylinders.
I know this is a RS3, and I drive a G80CXD, but similar risks across any platform, and IM considering building out an RS3 as well. So Im appreciating these vids.
Spraying 6-8 inches before the throttle body gives you optimal atomisation across all 5 cylinders. When we see setups spraying after the throttle body we notice more knock corrections in cylinder 5 which tells us that all 5 cylinders are not getting an even mixture
Love your channel you explain stuff nice 👍
Thank you very much! What would you like to see next? 😎
Great work guys! It’s obvious you know your stuff. I wish I could take my DAZA-swapped R over the Atlantic to have you give it your Stage 3 treatment.
Thank you!!
Love it Aoon , smashing it
Thank you!
Great content and well explained. How about any possibility of rust inside the engine since water is sprayed eg valves, pistons, piston rings? Does it get rust afer few years of using wmi kit?
All of this is happening at hundreds of miles per hour inside the charge air system, I have yet to see a real world example of rusting! I assume it does not sit there long enough to oxidise
Ik in diesels its good for cleaning carbon off the inside of the intake
It would be gone in a blink of an eye, no chance of reacting
Another great informative video! Any chance of a how to on replacing spark plugs please👍
I will cover spark plugs and coil packs on our next video👌🏽
I have a 2018 TTRS as my daily and had a generic stage 1+tune with absolutely mental bangs that sounded incredible.
Took it for a stage 2 map at MRC and told them I wanted to keep the short but super loud pops and bangs wen exhaust open(or in dynamic) and they confirmed possible.
Wen picking up car and driving it home the pops and bangs were so soft I felt truly gutted.
Called them up the next day and they basically said we only use oem pops and bangs and nothing harder than this. I asked them why and they said because of fuel consumption.
I said I don’t care about fuel consumption and asked to have the more aggressive pops & bangs but they confirmed they would not give me what I wanted.
Cars drives great but doesn’t feel much if any quicker than the stage 1+ I had.
But really more gutted about the pops being so tame now.
Would bring it to you but I live in devon
I own my own garage by the way but not a specialist on these.
Give us a call. We can tune this car remotely for you and put our engine safety algorithms in place along with map switching, rolling launch control and switchable pops and bangs. We use a really special strategy for our pops and bangs which is why they sound very different from any other 5 cylinder tuner. We offer a 30 day money back guarantee on our software, if you are not happy in any way shape or form, we will refund you over the phone. We are that confident 😊
I just want super loud bangs unlike most maps. Not sure why they were so loud before and not now? Could this have something to do with the turbo wastegate now being “more closed” so less noisy? Or the exhaust flaps not opening fully? Felt like flames we’re coming out before.
@@tdg176I can’t comment on someone else’s tune as they would be using a totally different strategy than ours, but what I can guarantee is that we can give you exactly what you’re after 🤓
@@InfinitPerformancek interested. Currently got 4 maps low boost , 99 ron map, octane booster map and immobilizer map. Would it be possible to keep one or two or 3 of the current tunes I have but with your loud pop map also?
And how is this done remotely?
@@tdg176we don’t edit anyone else’s tune, but we can offer you the same -
Immobiliser map
97 octane map / stock map
99 octane map
99 octane map + octane booster
Our map switching is also a bit easier and through the cruise control stick instead of the brake pedal. You will not be disappointed!
Tuning is done via either an Android device or any laptop running windows. Process takes 20 minutes!
Thank you for the great content, can’t wait for you guys to open up in Dubai!! Have you had any rs3’s come in with transfer case/ bevel box issues?
Very nice explain good video👍.A lot of people r using all meth without water we see this in many Porsches what’s the difference.?
Running pure methanol doesn’t have many gains over running 50:50. I’ve done a lot of tests on this. Pure meth does not cool as well as 50:50. The difference is negligible power wise. Meth is highly flammable and burns invisible, so I don’t like advising people to run pure methanol. Especially on road cars! Some people run pure methanol as they’ve ran out of injector on their car so they use it to add more fuel to the car.
Keep setup English subtitles at least, as I'm Polish, still don't understand some words. Thanks ❤️👌
Noted!
Well, very nice video mate. I've seen it 3 times in general but it's time to ask you something. I want to use methanol for fuel at my 1.8 ea888gen3 is38 car. What's the best mixture for power gains?
What happens to the windscreen washer then ?
If you read the labels on your average blue windshield washer fluids, it's 50% methanol and 50% water. You would still use it to clean your windshield as per normal.
@@AHigherPerspective a lot of screen wash has glycol in it which turns engine oil to rubber
@@Boostaddicts_YT hence why I said very specifically the "blue" fluid
You are correct, blue windscreen washer fluid (not concentrate, only ready mix) has atleast 40% methanol in it. You can run that in your water methanol injection system. It is not not as ‘neat’ as a pure 50/50 home brew water methanol mix but it does the job and doesn’t cause any ill effects. The blue dye is also useful as it can show you if you have any leaks in your system :)
@@AHigherPerspective blue VAG tps last I checked has glycol in it when they changed the ingredients a few yrs ago
This is rami
Yes indeed 😎
Need to get this fitted to mine soon 😂😉👍
Ready when you are Nathan!
Cracking content and so well explained, thanks. Is it possible to fit this to 2.0tdi?
Yes! Water meth injection is actually very popular in the TDI world. Speak to Darkside Developments. They are experts in the TDI tuning scene.
Sorry if the question is already asked, if you spray the meth mix from the wiper reservoir onto the windscreen, would that be safe ? Getting some meth onto the windscreen
Windscreen washer fluid has a % of methanol inside it
When I get my rs3. I know exactly where am spending my next 5 wages 😂😂.
Our phone lines are always open :) give us a call when you are ready!
Can you add the meth kit to a unitronic tte777 kit without any issues?
Pretty good gains is that anout 12% increase on stock power? So with the meth added and mapped in does intake temperatures stay the same as stock temperatures or with meth and more boost does it run cooler than stock temperatures
Hi bro, video what’s the cost
We charge £1250 to supply and fit a water methanol injection kit to an RS3 ☺️
What makes the RS3 shoot flames? Is it the tune alone?
It is a byproduct of the water methanol injection kit, you are now spraying a fuel into the engine that the engine is not accommodating for therefore some of it gets burned off in the exhaust in certain situations like overrun when you lift off the throttle :)
@@InfinitPerformance Thank you for the explanation.
How does the tune only allow WMI to work on map 4 only? How does it turn it off for the other 3maps?
The WMI sprays in all maps, but the ECU does not allow map 4 to be used if the WMI is not spraying. We monitor the combustion process in all maps and if it is not optimal, it will kick you out of the map. This goes for all maps.
Map 3 for example is for 99 octane, if you use 97 or 95 octane it will kick you out of map 3.
I keep getting impressed the more I learn about Gt-Flashers. BTW I'm Paul E. from FB. I just messaged you the other day about VP racing Super Sauce the green E85 stuff. One more question if I may? Do you use AEM over Snow because of preference or is AEM a better WMI kit? Thank You for answering my noobie questions.@@InfinitPerformance
@@leosrule5412 aem is the simplest kit to install and setup and never, ever gives us any issues. Over 150 kits installed over the last 5 years and never had a single issue. This is why we use AEM!
Is the map 4 safety function only available for the rs3 5 pot vehicles or are you also introducing this feature in maps for the gen3 ea888 with water/meth?
We are working on it for the 4 cylinder platform, is this something you would be interested in if we were to make it? We have map switching available for the Ea888 but have not introduced safeties just yet!
so where the new windscreen washer fluid reservoir goes? oh and why are you fitting it in the engine bay? thanks
Blue windscreen washer fluid (not concentrate, only ready mix) has atleast 40% methanol in it. You can run that in your water methanol injection system. It is not not as ‘neat’ as a pure 50/50 home brew water methanol mix but it does the job and doesn’t cause any ill effects. The blue dye is also useful as it can show you if you have any leaks in your system :) We fit the pump in the engine bay as that gives us a stealth install with nothing visible inside the car. No ugly pumps or meth tanks in the boot where it would usually be located.
@@InfinitPerformance so this must be UK specific, in most EU countries methanol concentration in windscreen washer fluid is much less than 40%, some countries allow only 5-10% or its entirely banned
Great video! What does this setup cost? I have a 2020 saloon RS3 and would be interested also.
Thank you! Is your RS3 totally stock at the moment? Any hardware at all fitted to it?
@@InfinitPerformance Totally stock
@@AshleyRyanEdwards This entire package comes in at just under £6500 :)
Whats the background music?
Water has a higher octane than methanol as it doesn’t ignite & absorbs more heat by volume than methanol but it evaporates a LOT slower than methanol hence why you use methanol
A few points here that I didn’t actually speak about in the video about why we use 50:50 water methanol.
You are correct, waters octane content is infinite. Because it can not ignite. However keep in mind as water does not ignite it cannot be used as an energy source inside the cylinder, you are now filling the cylinder with something that can not make any energy. All the water can do is is raise the effective octane level inside the cylinder via the thermodynamic process that takes place. With methanol, as it is a fuel that has a higher octane content it can create energy :)
Water can also freeze in cold climates which would be far from ideal to run in a car.
@@InfinitPerformance that’s right tho pure water will allow for more ignition, plus run leaner with more boost than with methanol but your need a system with multiple smaller nozzles & failsafe to run it in those conditions not something I’d be doing on AEM’s basic nozzle options and push fits. 👍🏻
@@Boostaddicts_YTprecisely :) for that type of port meth setup I’d be looking into a different setup with AN fittings! Port meth injection does have less of a cooling effect though and usually the applications for port meth injection are when people need more fuelling! Tuning for pure water is also extremely tricky which I have seen very few master, as yes you get to increase the ignition but again you need to play with lambda to get more power out of the car.
What management are you running that allows to create the safe map if the wmi fails?
We are using the factory ECU with our custom code patches applied to it.
how well does the water meth work in combination with e20-e85 fuel mixes
Ethanol runs a lot cooler, but an e20/25 mix is pretty low so it would still be pretty beneficial. I would imagine you are running that low of a mix as you have either ran out of injector or fuel pump flow. In which case you would benefit from meth as it is another fuel source for the engine so will allow you to run a tiny bit more boost and definitely more ignition. But remember to have failsafes in place!
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How is the production quality on this one? :)
Where do you put the screen wash ......🤔🧐🧐
You can use screen wash as an alternative to meth, the blue stuff :)
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Glad you liked the video! What would you like to see next?
You boys fit this to golf r?
Yeah we can :)
@InfinitPerformance sent you email hope you can fit me in some time next week would be great 🥳
If you do direct port injection with a solenoid how would it drain your meth?…. Plus most people run 100% meth and do direct port.
With a solenoid it wouldn’t :)
what do u use for screen wash now?
Ready mix screen wash (the blue stuff) has methanol in it, so it can also be used and provide the same effect.
@@InfinitPerformance Nice touch
@@jcstuningltd Thank you!
Ho much power can you put on those rs with metanol .
On stock turbo with water methanol injection these cars make 565hp/670nm :)
@@InfinitPerformance i have one rs 3 this have 500 hp without metanol .
@@liridoni123guess it’s time for you to fit some water methanol injection :)
Hey there, I have a 2016 8V RS3 with the CZGB engine, am I able to do something like this with my car...? Cheers.
Yes! Drop us a message on instagram or WhatsApp 0141 641 1222 😁
So all these expensive RS3s now have dirty screens and no MOTs 🤣