This series is incredible and timely. Just celebrated our first Christmas separated from narcissistic unbelieving family and it was a little lonely but PEACEFUL. Breaking nasty generational family culture for my four beautiful babies 🙌 Thank you pastor Mark and team
I agree. This was our first Christmas separated from my husband’s and my families. Toxic, spiritually abusive families who profess to be Christians. They were actively against us pursuing what God had for us, because it goes against what they want. Let’s pray that God can keep us strong in His plans for us ❤️🩹🙏🏻
This is mind blowing to hear. At the time that this was posted, i had to make the conscious decision to walk away from my parent’s. My daughter being my priority to keep her safe from mental abuse. Ive been feeling very guilty and over the passed 3 months thought of my parents, thinking i should make contact. This sermon has and will be what set me free from this. Going through a divorce where the family are all Christian, Pastor dad. I wont say more, but this has also set me free in this area. God is so good, protecting me from what i could not see, sure it was traumatic and hurt. But now i know why. Praise God
Timely and relevant in my life. I'm the only believer in my family. I want to start the generational change from so much dysfunction, trauma and toxicity. These messages inspire and motivate me to be the turning point. Thank you for your ministry.
Who are my brothers sisters mother father? Those who do the will of God. The Lord said he did not come to give peace in this situation, but division. To the point of being delivered up to death. The joy of the Lord d is our strength. Keep our eyes on Jesus for perfect peace. Few have been delivered up to die on the cross for our faith. It’s always spiritual ❤
I've had my fill for sure. Ever noticed that people who are relatives use that relationship to be abusive. They feel ENTITLED to a lifelong pass. Not going to keep going on. Life is hard enough without people who're supposed to be something to you trying to destroy your life. I'm good just staying to myself. Messy, foolish people I don't' tolerate well.
I live in Michigan & so grateful I found your podcast. I was praying to God to help me with my toxic sister who is 70 yo & I am 64 yo, trying to escape our enmeshment & her entitlement that I should still be there for her financially, since she did not save for retirement. She caused so much toxicity with her children, our mother, and myself. I wanna cut her out of my life (God’s way) and was struggling how to do it. Thank you for this episode!!!!
Im so thankful i found this ive cut off my entire "family" due to abuse and addiction I did try helping my sister for awhile but i had to completely cut her off due to her continuous toxicity and aggressive need to be around my son and I. I literally had to put her in jail shes evil. And because of my faith in Jesus i felt bad for awhile.. But Jesus doesn't want us around that kind of character in anyway shape or form.. its done ill never have a relationship with them again... its been hard but i did what was needed for my son and my home.
From Colorado. After 18 years we found a peaceful way to gather at Christmas. Eating Christmas dinner at a restaurant due to a powerful covert narcissistic daughter-in-law. It works great for our enabling son who still loves as family. This only happened after I was in counseling for being abused by our daughter in law.
During drastic cultural shifts, suffering tenderizes/humbles people with stony hearts. Change comes after a period of existential suffering and an encounter with God. God alone does the transformation.
THIS IS SO POWERFUL MY SISTER-IN-LAW TOTALLY DESTROYED OUR MARRIAGE OF 34 YRS BEEN DOING IT FOR YRS. AND SUCCEEDED RIGHT WHEN HE HAD STAGE 4 LUNG CANCER AND DIED 8 MONTHS AGO ~ THEY WERE AND STILL ARE WICKED AND EVIL FOR ALL THEY HAVE DONE BUT GOD! REMOVED THEM ALL FROM MY LIFE ~ THANK-YOU! JESUS!!
I separated myself from my family. They have caused me more pain than joy. I used to always give them passes but I realize I can love them from afar. I’ve always sacrificed and supported them. They have never done the same for me. Even as a child I was told I didn’t deserve what I got and I was bad. I’ve grown up with horrible self esteem because of it. I am still not good but at least I can find my peace alone on my own terms. Focus on the Lord he will give you strength even on your own.
Thank you pastor Mark for doing this great study series. It’s been about a year I’ve been working with my small congregation and friends on these very same matters. It’s definitely a timely message for many to get deeper insight. Thank you for your obedience and care. 🙏🏼💟✝️
I completely agree and understand. I’ve watched several videos regarding these situations. But there’s one thing that hasn’t been talked about. What if there is a parent that actually needs to be under same roof due to age, health etc. Doesn’t try to boss or interfere personally in their relationship. Works, pays bills (contributing) and the couple (one is their child) the couple treats behaves starts problems not the parent. What & how do you do?? The parent keeps to themselves. Doesn’t interfere personally or otherwise and the couple tries to gaslights the parent and they constantly treating the parent in a bad way? The parent cannot afford to be on their own. It’s an unnecessary game of game’s CONTROL SO OVERBEARING. ( from the children ) It would be awesome to hear a teaching on this aspect of the spectrum. Many blessings
For me, the most important aspect of this sermon is when he talks about "enmeshment" with family and how it affects your marriage. The re-prioritization MUST happen once you get married and the son or daughter is the only person who can do that. Most parents are not going to do it. They are going to attempt to keep it a "parent/child" relationship for as long as they can and a spouse will become extremely resentful. When you marry, you must tell your parents that your spouse has now become your priority. You must tell your parents that your spouse has not joined THEIR family where they are "the boss". You and your spouse have "leaved and cleaved" and created your own separate "nuclear family" where you both are the matriarch and patriarch of your own family. It's so important to tell your parents this, because if you do not, they are going to hope that you lack understanding about the biblical commandments for marriage (leave and cleave, forsake all others, let no man put asunder). They are going to feign ignorance about how marriage (for Christians) is supposed to work. They are going to assume an "authority" position within your marriage and with your spouse and this is going to cause horrendous problems. There needs to be a huge "STOP" sign placed in front of them immediately after you get married. Protect your marriage and nuclear family at all costs. Don't expect your now "extended" family to naturally back off and have boundaries. They. Will. Not. Instead, YOU need to set firm boundaries with them . Mothers are supposed to "release" their son's to their new wife in marriage. Mother is supposed to "pass the baton" so to speak and respectfully take a step back and show trust that her son's wife is competent and capable. She is not to "meddle" in their marital matters or try to "compete" for her son's time and attention. It's about respect. It's about understanding your role. Your position and your responsibility within a family.
Honoring your parents does not mean to put them first then God second. I love my family but it is time to pursue the things that God has for me. There is no one higher than God.
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God is for reconciliation. We are one in Christ. Love conquers all.. don't give Satan the victory. He came to kill, lie, destroy and separate. GOD gave us Victory on the Cross. Blessed are those that do not take offence. Don't lend your ears out to gossip and don't speak badly of others.
My stepmother is a narcissistic, murderous-spirited, Jezebel kind of woman. She still controls my siblings (I am 64 and she married my dad in 1964). Dad was very passive…..pray 4 us. It has taken me soooo long to see it. It was always there. By the grace of God, I survived. Jesus walked thru it with me (I have no doubt). I just don’t know what to do about it now? I’m waiting on the Lord. 🙏
My father and stepmother are much like Ahab and Jezebel. Unfortunately, weak men are drawn to a jezebel. We pray for my family whom are all unbelievers but we limit our conversation because they're under a different spirit. God Bless.
@@leefossett5777 I pray your strength in the LORD IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. Choose to stay on the path and journey that God has you on. Choose to do so without feeling guilt, shame, embarrassment, or condemnation IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. THE JOY OF THE LORD IS YOUR STRENGTH. AMEN. ❤❤❤
Thank you Pastor Mark for speaking about this! I felt like you were speaking directly to me and my situation. This past Friday, I had to get a restraining order on my brother who is a drug addict. I have to keep my kids safe. This is exactly the word I needed to hear. Thank you for listening to God and brining this word forward. This series has blessed me immensely. God bless you and your family!
I mean this is the BEST from the Church on these most difficult issues and on dysfunctional families. I just recently prayed for direction about my sister, (toxic) and cousin (triangulated, foolish): ALL of my instincts tell me to cut them loose and yet I struggle inside with being wrong! And these last few days since I've prayed I've seen quotes supporting my instincts and desire to cut off pop up frequently online (!)(!)(!)....and now I see YOU!!! THANK YOU GOD AND PASTOR FOR VALIDATION 🎉🎊🎏🥳🥰👍💯‼️
AMEN. EXACTLY. THANK YOU, LORD JESUS. AMEN. YOU BETTER SAY THAT. No one should really be offensive by this teaching. It is Biblical wisdom whether people want to choose to accept, acknowledge, believe, and receive it or not.
Abraham also had a cut off with Hagar the baby mama, and his son Ishmael(father of the Muslim nation) and chose his godly son Isaac and his wife Sarah.
@@sonOfTheL1vingGod he/she is referring to having a child outside of his marriage because he and his wife lacked faith that God would give them a child within the marriage. That was the sin spoken of.
@@californiaconservative949 that is still a terrible analogy. His wife suggested that abraham conceive with hagar. He did not cut her off because hagar was toxic. He cut her off because of his wife. His wife sarah suggested he sleep with hagar and then back pedals and does not want to see hagar and treats hagar harshly as well. Sarah was toxic in that instance. Not justifying hagar provoking her but, both were at fault.
When one steps outside of the will of God, the consequences are always severe. The lack of faith produced the situation that became toxic. But God in His mercy saw Hagar, her situation and made a way for her future. Our ways have to align up with God's word, always.
Two tools. Clarifying conversion, for course correction. Eph 4:29 Yellow is chronic. Try temp timeout. Check your own heart. A bitter is not a good you. What is the goal? Clarifying can reset the relationship. Are we willing to forgive w/o ever receiving an apology. What was point 2?
How does one forgive themselves for making a mistake that changed lots of lives, u no longer have the one u were supposed to Cleve to and extended family has forgot u those who loved you unconditional are gone and you are so alone
There is redemption in Christ Jesus and He makes all things new. It sounds like you are referring to your marriage and there is hope. Pray, fast and look into Mort Fortel Marriage Fitness. It helped me understand and change. Praying you can heal whatever is broken. 🙏🏼
Yes, I have people who are evil.....blasphemous....three out of a dozen...they are gone. Full stop. Some of them I wouldn't be surprised if their birth certificates said Sodom and Gomorrah they were THAT perverse.
Thank you for this series. My husband and I have initiated unfortunate-but-necessary cutoff in my family, and I feel SO RELIEVED, so much safer. However, what happens we “have” to be in the same room as a toxic family member, like a funeral? In my case it’s a grown sibling. I would love some advice; this impending situation often keeps me up at night. I doubt I’m the only one! Also, someone mentioned slander above. I’ve grown accustomed to weaponized personal PR campaigns against me. Any wisdom concerning when and how to confront/address slander, and when to let it go? I am definitely losing the information war, probably because I don’t engage in it. Should I? Idea: Would you consider a post-series follow up Q&A session to address some of the specific questions that have popped up along the way?
So grateful ! So helpful and healing to hear every single word! I’ve had to cut off my entire maternal side of the family it was such a messed up system I have loved getting a biblical frame of reference along side the clinical and I’m so glad and grateful to god that my family my husband and I and our children ,is now my family the way it should be it’s so worth it and such a god thing that we made it through the crazy to the peace on the other side ❤
Pastor mark- please preach on men and women sleeping apart when married- I’m not happy sleeping away from my husband- he snores bad- but I crave his protection and intimacy.. not sexual necessarily but just being close to him at night bc he works all day and evening. I feel lonely sleeping alone. It’s really affecting my connection with my husband.
Listen, since watching a few of these I have felt something was off in this teaching. I don’t think it is completely biblical. What does God tell us in his word? We are to be servants. To love one another. To be forgiving. How many times? Unending times. Should a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife? Yes, but not to the exclusion of the rest of their families. If there are normal problems, they should be dealt with. Talk, go to counseling, do better, move on. Sometimes we must tolerate people we don’t enjoy. Unselfishly. I’m not talking about abusive, drunk or people on drugs or that use the f word around your kids. I just think in this age when everyone is so selfish this is a dangerous message. My ex mother in law was not fun for me, but I would never think in a million years to come between my kids or her and her son. I will not be a wedge. My mother in law now can be super annoying at times. She irks all of us, but that’s life right? Different personalities. We must have grace and mercy. Forgiveness. What does the Bible say about a root of bitterness growing inside us? It’s earthly, demonic. It’s not from above. What is from above? It’s first of all peaceable. I could go on, but you get where I’m coming from.
Yeah, these cases aren’t just a normal case of ‘different personalities’. Healthy people know how to agree to disagree. But unhealthy people will push their opinions, think they’re the only ones who can be right, etc to the point where they are rude, controlling, manipulative, and so on. This teaching is correct. But that doesn’t mean it counters what you’ve learned. Forgiveness is unlimited - that you are right about. But forgiveness does not equal access. We can forgive the guy who breaks our kids’ leg for fun without inviting him back over for tea, right? Same thing. We can forgive and love our extended family from afar if they’re toxic. It just doesn’t mean we have to invite them over nor be giddy in welcoming them. My MIL is now cut off completely from us for these reasons.
But, in the Bible Corinthians 13:7 says, Love :beareth all things, believeth all things,hopeth all things, endureth all things. So in light of such long-suffering Passage are we not called to be a noble Christian doormat?
Pray for son,just moved back in,and grandkids who after Covid have been cut off from us,,and new son in law has reprogrammed supposedly from church,,,,and Christianity,,pray for our home,second mortgage has me now owing twice what I now earn without overtime,about to loose our home,need a miracle,,,
Is it true that multiple in-laws of your sons have required to be cut off? Is it possible, cutting people off is not that should happen frequently (as in a couple in your life, maybe). How do you reconcile this with the world knowing we are Christian’s by our love?
Thank you pastor Mark for this series! Been a blessing! What I'm trying to figure out is what do you do when your wife is the domineering, toxic narcissist destroying the marriage? If she doesn't take rebuke or listen to counseling, anything said is twisted and turned against you and to her whole family she portrays you as some abusive monster. As if she just bored and wants to feed on drama that she creates in her own mind. Just at a complete dead end trying to save my marriage but the devil is at full force trying to destroy it.
Have you fast and prayed about this? One thing I learned is that God did create marriage. I believe that GOD values the sanctity of marriage. But even in marriage we are to worship, honor, glorify Him and Him alone, AND PUT HIM FIRST IN JESUS' NAME. HE is still supposed to be Lord of and over that marriage. GOD doesn't want us idolizing marriage or our spouses whatsoever in any fashion, shape, or form. It is imperative that you choose to develop a relationship with Christ for yourself and get to know Jesus for yourself. It is imperative that you get to know God's voice for yourself and follow HIS lead. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD. NOTHING IS TO HARD FOR GOD. IF SOMETHING IS MEANT TO BE IN YOUR LIFE EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO FULLY RELEASE IT OVER TO GOD. IT WILL RETURN AND IT WILL BE BETTER TO AND FOR YOU IN JESUS' NAME IN THE LONG RUN.
In cases of addiction, abuse, etc. I totally agree. However I will never cut off my family because of being unbelievers, gay, or following the Mormon faith. Being any of those three is no reason to cut off family just because of a different belief/ lifestyle.
My brother at 71 is the eldest of 5 and is a mess in every way. My father has left him in charge of their finances. Hes not filed his own taxes in 15 yrs. Hes not filed my parent's taxes in 4 yrs. ( they own a 4 plex apartment so thats a business.) He won't tell us what they have left in their bank account. Yesterday i found out. Its not good. Ive gotten advice from a lawyer but it would be at the expense of my parents. I need advice 😫 i cant be around him anymore, 4 weeks ago we had a physical altercation. 5 yrs of the hamster wheel and its gotten no where. He now is staying in their house caring for them.
Radical Acceptance. Believe them. They’re telling you, “No, I’m not doing that”. Believe them and move on. There will be no resolution, they’ve decided to dig their heels in and commit to the delusion. You’ve done your due diligence and are free to move on. In my experience, Run. I’m not kidding. Take the Holy Spirit’s hand and run from evil.
This is good, but I would also add, a lot of us are single and need to cut off, not based on marriage relationships. Sometimes it is siblings or friends. Not because of protecting children or future generations, but it is just a bad influence. Single people apply these rules to your life as well. The worst is when they try and weaponize your faith...if you were a real Christian you would...insert controlling idea here.....or if you loved me, you would allow me to....if you loved me you would give me money because...if you loved your nephew you would give me money because....I guess I am more mature and emotionally stable because I can give this horrible thing I am doing to your life a pass because we are family. I have been through it all...the worst are the ones who embrace the evil....I just had to walk away. Put a period and move on and follow the path of peace. Sometimes God gives you a family that are not connected by DNA.
@VP-bx2jj Not "cut off," but refrain from a consistent relationship. Especially at an adult age or age of accountability where they decline God. It's in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.
@@robocop2u2 Sounds like you're punishing your family for not (yet) having a saving faith in Jesus Christ. But maybe they don't care. Mine would have missed me.
Wow! How close to home this is. It takes real Godly wisdom to manage these situations. Toxic family just keep on pursuing. sometimes cut off is absolutely needed because they cant have a conversation which involves repentance. They are narcissistic ,use and abuse.
While I understand this and agree in most circumstances there are some caveats that complicate this matter. For instance after a year of torment from domestic abuse that landed me in the icu with a brain injury, I was going through a hard time to recover through that emotional turmoil. I needed humans there for me. But, my ptsd was too much for my 18 yr old sister to show me an ounce of grace for. Instead she didn’t approach me with the problem she had, instead she waited over a year to tell me she wanted nothing to do with me when I had to move to her city due to trying to regain employment after my injuries. In other words, I was taking a step to live on my own again and take care of myself again and having people around to support and help me is what I needed. Instead, I got to never even get a cordial hello at church. Her husband ran into me in the crowd at church and just stuttered uhhh and ran away. When there are church events at her house, I am not invited. Idk. Doesn’t look like she handled things in the light of Christ in my option, but all is well, the only thing keeping me alive is knowing if I don’t, I go to hell. So. Caveats. When someone is going through something traumatic, i understand if you are not strong enough to be there for them hands on because it is a lot to handle, but i like to think Christians are instructed to be selfless and show grace and mercy. Regardless of if it’s family or not. And when it is family, don’t be shocked when they try to kill themselves. Sorry for the truth. I had nothing to live for. I prayed to die. Consider the caveat.
While we are called to love, forgive, be compassionate and have empathy, it should never be to the detriment of ourselves or ourselves or our families. I’m sorry you had that experience. It makes me sad because from what you said, they do not sound like they are truly walking with Christ and that gives other Christians a bad rap as well. I pray you are doing better. Bless you.🙏🏼💙
I sense the same. Any family outside of your spouse and your own children seem to be problematic for him. In fact, I don't think he even looks at extended family members as family. So once you're married with you own kids, your mom, dad, siblings, etc. are no longer consider to be family.
He is off base. There may be extreme cases that need a cutoff, but that is the exception, not the rule. Jesus desires reconciliation. Satan desires division and destruction. Who should be doing the reconciling? We, the Christian. Our unsaved relatives are doing Satan's work. We shouldn't be joining in.
In July 2014 after 1 year of marriage my then wife abandoned me because of my in laws. Her family was and are extremely toxic and controlling. Fast forward to July 1, 2023 and she abandoned me and our two kids this time after 10 years of marriage. It was our daughter’s 8th birthday so it was a mess. This time again her family was egging her on but she also made friends with this super toxic people. The woman in the family is a witch that you would think is the actual embodiment of Jezebel. The woman’s husband is a spineless Ahab. Her children are the definition of dysfunction. My soon to be ex wife had been having an affair with the ladies son apparently. This kid isn’t a man. He doesn’t work but lives with his mom and has never worked. He’s almost 30 and she left us for that family after knowing them for not even a year. They’re really into witchcraft and the sovereign citizen movement which is basically an anarchist movement. I will never take her back after all of this. Learn from me. They will hurt you again. This time my children are hurt. Last time I only had to hurt. Protect your kids!! A snake always sheds its skin and only comes back bigger and worse.
I respectfully disagree. God can and does change people. But they have to be willing to change. Does not mean you have to take her back (which she will want eventually, I can almost guarantee you,) but it means don’t let this harden your heart. Pray for her, pray a hedge of protection around her, for you children, if nothing else. She is their mom. Forgive her so you can heal and if it’s God’s will, reconcile. If not, God has a plan. 🙏🏼
So the young man doing the intro with a wedding band flirting with the girl is kinda a bad thing. Might wanna check this before broadcast...just sayin'.
I posted a comment to this video on another account, but it appears to have been deleted by the owner of this channel. I commented that the “Classic Truck Giveaway” thing was improper (because it’s gambling, and Christians shouldn’t be gambling at church). If the person who deleted my last comment also reads this one, I hope they would look into their heart and ask themself: Does shadow-banning criticism of church-sanctioned gambling feel like the right thing to do? Does that bring glory to God?
I just looked this up, so the page doesn't provide any info about where the money goes. Which in my opinion is a bit shady. I don't really consider this guy a preacher as much as a Christian based speaker.
Ask for more information before making a judgement. When I became saved and shared my faith with my family they rallied against me and made rules about not speaking about religion or politics. They were cruel and attempted to drive a wedge between myself and my adult daughter to keep her from becoming "brainwashed" by Christianity. My wife and I find them difficult to deal with and now we are the ones that are distancing ourselves from them. Five years later, we just pray for them and send them gospel messages when we email. Being cut off works both ways. Sometimes God will allow relationships to be cut off if they're unhealthy, it doesn't always matter which side does the cutting. God bless.
Let them go. Give them space. One of my daughters cut me off, didn't respond to me for 2 years. Now she is suddenly back after having a baby. Give God the time and space to work in their hearts and heal them of their issues. Because adult Christians who cut out other people from their lives are not spiritually mature and only the Holy Spirit can change them, grow them up to learn how to endure other's faults. They truly believe they are spiritually superior to others and have it all together. Give God room to show them they are also sinners and need others to forgive them of their faults. It's very very hard to let go, but let them go.
I’m cut off from two of my children - after a very toxic divorce and my ex left the church and said he does not believe in “that God” anymore. We’d been baptized together and raised our kids in the church. But Satan gets a foot hold and estranges even Christian marriages and families. Does not mean you are the toxic being cut off. The answer is to pray, ask God to convict you of your own sin in the situation, which he will, repent and pray for the other party. People do evil things to the very people they profess to love the most when Satan can get in between them. Generational sin is real and acceptance that people have free will. We can only pray and keep our hearts open and our side of the street clean. If they come back, make sure you’re healthy enough to know how to handle it. I’m so sorry you’re going through it.
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What is your hang up about "carrying people"? You use it in the most peculiar ways. You don't sound like you actually know love. You sound like you are deeply rooted in fear.
This series is incredible and timely. Just celebrated our first Christmas separated from narcissistic unbelieving family and it was a little lonely but PEACEFUL. Breaking nasty generational family culture for my four beautiful babies 🙌 Thank you pastor Mark and team
I agree. This was our first Christmas separated from my husband’s and my families. Toxic, spiritually abusive families who profess to be Christians. They were actively against us pursuing what God had for us, because it goes against what they want. Let’s pray that God can keep us strong in His plans for us ❤️🩹🙏🏻
Next step don’t follow the devils Xmas.pleasle ask GOD he opened my eyes about it🙏🏽
This is mind blowing to hear. At the time that this was posted, i had to make the conscious decision to walk away from my parent’s. My daughter being my priority to keep her safe from mental abuse. Ive been feeling very guilty and over the passed 3 months thought of my parents, thinking i should make contact.
This sermon has and will be what set me free from this.
Going through a divorce where the family are all Christian, Pastor dad. I wont say more, but this has also set me free in this area.
God is so good, protecting me from what i could not see, sure it was traumatic and hurt. But now i know why.
Praise God
Timely and relevant in my life. I'm the only believer in my family. I want to start the generational change from so much dysfunction, trauma and toxicity. These messages inspire and motivate me to be the turning point. Thank you for your ministry.
Who are my brothers sisters mother father? Those who do the will of God. The Lord said he did not come to give peace in this situation, but division. To the point of being delivered up to death. The joy of the Lord d is our strength. Keep our eyes on Jesus for perfect peace. Few have been delivered up to die on the cross for our faith. It’s always spiritual ❤
This is EXACTLY what I needed. I have toxic unbelieving older sisters that are now trying to involve my children. One tried to destroy my company.
I've had my fill for sure. Ever noticed that people who are relatives use that relationship to be abusive. They feel ENTITLED to a lifelong pass. Not going to keep going on. Life is hard enough without people who're supposed to be something to you trying to destroy your life. I'm good just staying to myself. Messy, foolish people I don't' tolerate well.
Nope. I've never noticed that. My family has never been abusive toward me. I'm thankful for them.
We see this throughout the Bible as well. Like the Bible says, a brother is born for adversity
, and a friend sticks closer than any brother.
So true! Life is hard, and it is almost unbearable when your own family is constantly trying to destroy you.
Relatable
Thank you for being so truthful on actual life issues. 😊 you are the only one I know to preach like this. Thank you
I go through with this with my family who are unbelievers as well as Narcissists who are toxic .
Are we in the same family 😂
God bless you know that Jesus Christ is the only way 🙏 an I'm praying for you and your family 🙏
Mines the religious version. Bless you All
I had to do this, this past week.
What is a “notle” event that Pastor Mark keeps talking about? Thank you!
I live in Michigan & so grateful I found your podcast. I was praying to God to help me with my toxic sister who is 70 yo & I am 64 yo, trying to escape our enmeshment & her entitlement that I should still be there for her financially, since she did not save for retirement. She caused so much toxicity with her children, our mother, and myself. I wanna cut her out of my life (God’s way) and was struggling how to do it. Thank you for this episode!!!!
Im so thankful i found this ive cut off my entire "family" due to abuse and addiction I did try helping my sister for awhile but i had to completely cut her off due to her continuous toxicity and aggressive need to be around my son and I. I literally had to put her in jail shes evil. And because of my faith in Jesus i felt bad for awhile.. But Jesus doesn't want us around that kind of character in anyway shape or form.. its done ill never have a relationship with them again... its been hard but i did what was needed for my son and my home.
Blessings 🙏🏽
The only time I hear from mine is when they want something , but when I need something there is no one to be found ! I’m tired of the one sidedness
I’m confused at the many religions some family members follow , there is one way to GOD and it’s not thru the Virgin Mary or thru Judaism
From Colorado. After 18 years we found a peaceful way to gather at Christmas. Eating Christmas dinner at a restaurant due to a powerful covert narcissistic daughter-in-law. It works great for our enabling son who still loves as family. This only happened after I was in counseling for being abused by our daughter in law.
During drastic cultural shifts, suffering tenderizes/humbles people with stony hearts. Change comes after a period of existential suffering and an encounter with God. God alone does the transformation.
Going through this right now...
THIS IS SO POWERFUL MY SISTER-IN-LAW TOTALLY DESTROYED OUR MARRIAGE OF 34 YRS BEEN DOING IT FOR YRS. AND SUCCEEDED RIGHT WHEN HE HAD STAGE 4 LUNG CANCER AND DIED 8 MONTHS AGO ~ THEY WERE AND STILL ARE WICKED AND EVIL FOR ALL THEY HAVE DONE BUT GOD! REMOVED THEM ALL FROM MY LIFE ~ THANK-YOU! JESUS!!
I'm sorry for your loss.
Pastor Mark your sermons changed my life. Going forward when it’s time for my family I will align them with the values I’ve learned through the Bible
Sometimes you have to to avoid their toxicity
I separated myself from my family. They have caused me more pain than joy. I used to always give them passes but I realize I can love them from afar. I’ve always sacrificed and supported them. They have never done the same for me. Even as a child I was told I didn’t deserve what I got and I was bad. I’ve grown up with horrible self esteem because of it. I am still not good but at least I can find my peace alone on my own terms. Focus on the Lord he will give you strength even on your own.
Very insightful message brother. God bless you for your diligent study of the Scriptures and your sound theological principles.
Thank you pastor Mark for doing this great study series. It’s been about a year I’ve been working with my small congregation and friends on these very same matters. It’s definitely a timely message for many to get deeper insight. Thank you for your obedience and care.
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I completely agree and understand. I’ve watched several videos regarding these situations. But there’s one thing that hasn’t been talked about.
What if there is a parent that actually needs to be under same roof due to age, health etc. Doesn’t try to boss or interfere personally in their relationship. Works, pays bills (contributing) and the couple (one is their child) the couple treats behaves starts problems not the parent. What & how do you do?? The parent keeps to themselves. Doesn’t interfere personally or otherwise and the couple tries to gaslights the parent and they constantly treating the parent in a bad way? The parent cannot afford to be on their own. It’s an unnecessary game of game’s CONTROL SO OVERBEARING.
( from the children ) It would be awesome to hear a teaching on this aspect of the spectrum. Many blessings
For me, the most important aspect of this sermon is when he talks about "enmeshment" with family and how it affects your marriage. The re-prioritization MUST happen once you get married and the son or daughter is the only person who can do that. Most parents are not going to do it. They are going to attempt to keep it a "parent/child" relationship for as long as they can and a spouse will become extremely resentful. When you marry, you must tell your parents that your spouse has now become your priority. You must tell your parents that your spouse has not joined THEIR family where they are "the boss". You and your spouse have "leaved and cleaved" and created your own separate "nuclear family" where you both are the matriarch and patriarch of your own family. It's so important to tell your parents this, because if you do not, they are going to hope that you lack understanding about the biblical commandments for marriage (leave and cleave, forsake all others, let no man put asunder). They are going to feign ignorance about how marriage (for Christians) is supposed to work. They are going to assume an "authority" position within your marriage and with your spouse and this is going to cause horrendous problems. There needs to be a huge "STOP" sign placed in front of them immediately after you get married. Protect your marriage and nuclear family at all costs. Don't expect your now "extended" family to naturally back off and have boundaries. They. Will. Not. Instead, YOU need to set firm boundaries with them . Mothers are supposed to "release" their son's to their new wife in marriage. Mother is supposed to "pass the baton" so to speak and respectfully take a step back and show trust that her son's wife is competent and capable. She is not to "meddle" in their marital matters or try to "compete" for her son's time and attention. It's about respect. It's about understanding your role. Your position and your responsibility within a family.
Honoring your parents does not mean to put them first then God second. I love my family but it is time to pursue the things that God has for me. There is no one higher than God.
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Had a step mother lie to me and my two brothers. She is a jezebel.
God is for reconciliation. We are one in Christ. Love conquers all.. don't give Satan the victory. He came to kill, lie, destroy and separate. GOD gave us Victory on the Cross. Blessed are those that do not take offence. Don't lend your ears out to gossip and don't speak badly of others.
My stepmother is a narcissistic, murderous-spirited, Jezebel kind of woman. She still controls my siblings (I am 64 and she married my dad in 1964). Dad was very passive…..pray 4 us. It has taken me soooo long to see it. It was always there. By the grace of God, I survived. Jesus walked thru it with me (I have no doubt). I just don’t know what to do about it now? I’m waiting on the Lord. 🙏
I have gone no-contact with her (about 25+years now), but it has been hard.
My father and stepmother are much like Ahab and Jezebel. Unfortunately, weak men are drawn to a jezebel. We pray for my family whom are all unbelievers but we limit our conversation because they're under a different spirit. God Bless.
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Thank you Pastor Mark for speaking about this! I felt like you were speaking directly to me and my situation. This past Friday, I had to get a restraining order on my brother who is a drug addict. I have to keep my kids safe. This is exactly the word I needed to hear. Thank you for listening to God and brining this word forward. This series has blessed me immensely. God bless you and your family!
I mean this is the BEST from the Church on these most difficult issues and on dysfunctional families.
I just recently prayed for direction about my sister, (toxic) and cousin (triangulated, foolish): ALL of my instincts tell me to cut them loose and yet I struggle inside with being wrong! And these last few days since I've prayed I've seen quotes supporting my instincts and desire to cut off pop up frequently online (!)(!)(!)....and now I see YOU!!!
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❤❤❤amen 🙏 to that
So much conformation in this message! So on point and well said! Thank you!
AMEN. EXACTLY. THANK YOU, LORD JESUS. AMEN. YOU BETTER SAY THAT. No one should really be offensive by this teaching. It is Biblical wisdom whether people want to choose to accept, acknowledge, believe, and receive it or not.
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Love ya'll, and Jesus reigns in this house.
Excellent… thank you.
Abraham also had a cut off with Hagar the baby mama, and his son Ishmael(father of the Muslim nation) and chose his godly son Isaac and his wife Sarah.
ishmael was not muslim at the time, he was still the son of abraham, it is idiotic to say hagar and ishmael are ungodly, racist hypocrite.
@@sonOfTheL1vingGod he/she is referring to having a child outside of his marriage because he and his wife lacked faith that God would give them a child within the marriage. That was the sin spoken of.
@@californiaconservative949 that is still a terrible analogy. His wife suggested that abraham conceive with hagar. He did not cut her off because hagar was toxic. He cut her off because of his wife. His wife sarah suggested he sleep with hagar and then back pedals and does not want to see hagar and treats hagar harshly as well. Sarah was toxic in that instance. Not justifying hagar provoking her but, both were at fault.
When one steps outside of the will of God, the consequences are always severe. The lack of faith produced the situation that became toxic. But God in His mercy saw Hagar, her situation and made a way for her future. Our ways have to align up with God's word, always.
i agree with your comment. Let us remember though God uses our mistakes for good. Ofcourse repentance is necessary.@@carolkhoury8164
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Two tools. Clarifying conversion, for course correction. Eph 4:29
Yellow is chronic. Try temp timeout. Check your own heart. A bitter is not a good you. What is the goal?
Clarifying can reset the relationship.
Are we willing to forgive w/o ever receiving an apology.
What was point 2?
How does one forgive themselves for making a mistake that changed lots of lives, u no longer have the one u were supposed to Cleve to and extended family has forgot u those who loved you unconditional are gone and you are so alone
There is redemption in Christ Jesus and He makes all things new. It sounds like you are referring to your marriage and there is hope. Pray, fast and look into Mort Fortel Marriage Fitness. It helped me understand and change. Praying you can heal whatever is broken. 🙏🏼
Yes, I have people who are evil.....blasphemous....three out of a dozen...they are gone. Full stop. Some of them I wouldn't be surprised if their birth certificates said Sodom and Gomorrah they were THAT perverse.
my dear old aunty mary used to say........its called common sense.......cause its not common.......and not a lot of people have it baboom
Thank you for this series. My husband and I have initiated unfortunate-but-necessary cutoff in my family, and I feel SO RELIEVED, so much safer. However, what happens we “have” to be in the same room as a toxic family member, like a funeral? In my case it’s a grown sibling. I would love some advice; this impending situation often keeps me up at night. I doubt I’m the only one!
Also, someone mentioned slander above. I’ve grown accustomed to weaponized personal PR campaigns against me. Any wisdom concerning when and how to confront/address slander, and when to let it go? I am definitely losing the information war, probably because I don’t engage in it. Should I?
Idea: Would you consider a post-series follow up Q&A session to address some of the specific questions that have popped up along the way?
Perhaps, different scheduled times for visitation. When you do have to be together, a mediator present.
Yes yes yes
So grateful ! So helpful and healing to hear every single word! I’ve had to cut off my entire maternal side of the family it was such a messed up system I have loved getting a biblical frame of reference along side the clinical and I’m so glad and grateful to god that my family my husband and I and our children ,is now my family the way it should be it’s so worth it and such a god thing that we made it through the crazy to the peace on the other side ❤
Pastor mark- please preach on men and women sleeping apart when married- I’m not happy sleeping away from my husband- he snores bad- but I crave his protection and intimacy.. not sexual necessarily but just being close to him at night bc he works all day and evening. I feel lonely sleeping alone. It’s really affecting my connection with my husband.
Brilliant as always, thank you.
Thank you Pastor Mark
Awesome word! I really needed to hear it this morning. Thanks Meghan.
Listen, since watching a few of these I have felt something was off in this teaching. I don’t think it is completely biblical. What does God tell us in his word? We are to be servants. To love one another. To be forgiving. How many times? Unending times. Should a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife? Yes, but not to the exclusion of the rest of their families. If there are normal problems, they should be dealt with. Talk, go to counseling, do better, move on. Sometimes we must tolerate people we don’t enjoy. Unselfishly.
I’m not talking about abusive, drunk or people on drugs or that use the f word around your kids.
I just think in this age when everyone is so selfish this is a dangerous message.
My ex mother in law was not fun for me, but I would never think in a million years to come between my kids or her and her son. I will not be a wedge.
My mother in law now can be super annoying at times. She irks all of us, but that’s life right? Different personalities. We must have grace and mercy. Forgiveness.
What does the Bible say about a root of bitterness growing inside us? It’s earthly, demonic. It’s not from above. What is from above? It’s first of all peaceable. I could go on, but you get where I’m coming from.
I don’t think he’s talking about just normal life problems.
Yeah, these cases aren’t just a normal case of ‘different personalities’. Healthy people know how to agree to disagree. But unhealthy people will push their opinions, think they’re the only ones who can be right, etc to the point where they are rude, controlling, manipulative, and so on.
This teaching is correct. But that doesn’t mean it counters what you’ve learned. Forgiveness is unlimited - that you are right about. But forgiveness does not equal access. We can forgive the guy who breaks our kids’ leg for fun without inviting him back over for tea, right? Same thing. We can forgive and love our extended family from afar if they’re toxic. It just doesn’t mean we have to invite them over nor be giddy in welcoming them.
My MIL is now cut off completely from us for these reasons.
But, in the Bible Corinthians 13:7 says, Love :beareth all things, believeth all things,hopeth all things, endureth all things. So in light of such long-suffering Passage are we not called to be a noble Christian doormat?
Absolutely. This sermon is another tool to break up more families. The family is under assault and Satan is laughing so hard.
Never a doormat, we are to be the head and not the tail. You are not to be unequally yolked with unbelievers.
Pray for son,just moved back in,and grandkids who after Covid have been cut off from us,,and new son in law has reprogrammed supposedly from church,,,,and Christianity,,pray for our home,second mortgage has me now owing twice what I now earn without overtime,about to loose our home,need a miracle,,,
You didn't start with prayer. Why not?
Amen! Years back I went through this with my biological mother. It broke my heart but needed to happen.
Is it true that multiple in-laws of your sons have required to be cut off? Is it possible, cutting people off is not that should happen frequently (as in a couple in your life, maybe). How do you reconcile this with the world knowing we are Christian’s by our love?
The couple doing the intro in the beginning sound just like pastor Mark and Grace
Thank you for this series! It’s about time a Pastor address these issues in depth!
AMEN! I’ve been saying this for a while!
AMEN. EXACTLY. ❤❤❤
I am so much like you..i have very strong muscular boundries. I sense narcs a mikemaway and have no problem diattaching
Perfect Relevance !
Thank you pastor Mark for this series! Been a blessing! What I'm trying to figure out is what do you do when your wife is the domineering, toxic narcissist destroying the marriage? If she doesn't take rebuke or listen to counseling, anything said is twisted and turned against you and to her whole family she portrays you as some abusive monster. As if she just bored and wants to feed on drama that she creates in her own mind. Just at a complete dead end trying to save my marriage but the devil is at full force trying to destroy it.
Have you fast and prayed about this? One thing I learned is that God did create marriage. I believe that GOD values the sanctity of marriage. But even in marriage we are to worship, honor, glorify Him and Him alone, AND PUT HIM FIRST IN JESUS' NAME. HE is still supposed to be Lord of and over that marriage. GOD doesn't want us idolizing marriage or our spouses whatsoever in any fashion, shape, or form. It is imperative that you choose to develop a relationship with Christ for yourself and get to know Jesus for yourself. It is imperative that you get to know God's voice for yourself and follow HIS lead. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD. NOTHING IS TO HARD FOR GOD. IF SOMETHING IS MEANT TO BE IN YOUR LIFE EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO FULLY RELEASE IT OVER TO GOD. IT WILL RETURN AND IT WILL BE BETTER TO AND FOR YOU IN JESUS' NAME IN THE LONG RUN.
In cases of addiction, abuse, etc. I totally agree. However I will never cut off my family because of being unbelievers, gay, or following the Mormon faith. Being any of those three is no reason to cut off family just because of a different belief/ lifestyle.
My brother at 71 is the eldest of 5 and is a mess in every way. My father has left him in charge of their finances. Hes not filed his own taxes in 15 yrs. Hes not filed my parent's taxes in 4 yrs. ( they own a 4 plex apartment so thats a business.) He won't tell us what they have left in their bank account. Yesterday i found out. Its not good. Ive gotten advice from a lawyer but it would be at the expense of my parents. I need advice 😫 i cant be around him anymore, 4 weeks ago we had a physical altercation. 5 yrs of the hamster wheel and its gotten no where. He now is staying in their house caring for them.
This punched me in the stomach.
How about Mat 12:46-50? Should spiritual family come before biological family?
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What if members of your toxic family repeatedly interfere and ruin your social relationships via slander?
Awesome message! ❤
No never
What do you do if those people don't even see the same reality as far as the "clarifying conversation"?
Radical Acceptance. Believe them. They’re telling you, “No, I’m not doing that”. Believe them and move on. There will be no resolution, they’ve decided to dig their heels in and commit to the delusion. You’ve done your due diligence and are free to move on. In my experience, Run. I’m not kidding. Take the Holy Spirit’s hand and run from evil.
This is good, but I would also add, a lot of us are single and need to cut off, not based on marriage relationships. Sometimes it is siblings or friends. Not because of protecting children or future generations, but it is just a bad influence. Single people apply these rules to your life as well. The worst is when they try and weaponize your faith...if you were a real Christian you would...insert controlling idea here.....or if you loved me, you would allow me to....if you loved me you would give me money because...if you loved your nephew you would give me money because....I guess I am more mature and emotionally stable because I can give this horrible thing I am doing to your life a pass because we are family. I have been through it all...the worst are the ones who embrace the evil....I just had to walk away. Put a period and move on and follow the path of peace. Sometimes God gives you a family that are not connected by DNA.
Yes, with accessibility if they want to turn to Christ. Email channels usually work as opposed to text and media.
Are you saying that if a family member is not a believer in Christ you will cut the off from being in your life?
@VP-bx2jj Not "cut off," but refrain from a consistent relationship. Especially at an adult age or age of accountability where they decline God. It's in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.
@@robocop2u2 Sounds like you're punishing your family for not (yet) having a saving faith in Jesus Christ. But maybe they don't care. Mine would have missed me.
@@VP-bx2jj family won't get you into heaven either, only Jesus Christ. John 14:6.
@@robocop2u2 True. But I didn't comment on that so I have no idea why you're mentioning it.
Amazing
Absolutely not. You should cover them in prayer.
Did you even watch/listen to the video? 😅
@@kingbradley9066 I answered the question in regards to my faith. Did you even read the question?
@@AerynGunn I see. You commented your point of view before watching what the pastor said.
PS
I agree with your comment.
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An event that creates a change either for good or bad.
Where’s the “fool” sermon?
fast forward to 8:06 min. mark.
Wow! How close to home this is. It takes real Godly wisdom to manage these situations. Toxic family just keep on pursuing. sometimes cut off is absolutely needed because they cant have a conversation which involves repentance. They are narcissistic ,use and abuse.
While I understand this and agree in most circumstances there are some caveats that complicate this matter. For instance after a year of torment from domestic abuse that landed me in the icu with a brain injury, I was going through a hard time to recover through that emotional turmoil. I needed humans there for me. But, my ptsd was too much for my 18 yr old sister to show me an ounce of grace for. Instead she didn’t approach me with the problem she had, instead she waited over a year to tell me she wanted nothing to do with me when I had to move to her city due to trying to regain employment after my injuries. In other words, I was taking a step to live on my own again and take care of myself again and having people around to support and help me is what I needed. Instead, I got to never even get a cordial hello at church. Her husband ran into me in the crowd at church and just stuttered uhhh and ran away. When there are church events at her house, I am not invited. Idk. Doesn’t look like she handled things in the light of Christ in my option, but all is well, the only thing keeping me alive is knowing if I don’t, I go to hell. So. Caveats. When someone is going through something traumatic, i understand if you are not strong enough to be there for them hands on because it is a lot to handle, but i like to think Christians are instructed to be selfless and show grace and mercy. Regardless of if it’s family or not. And when it is family, don’t be shocked when they try to kill themselves. Sorry for the truth. I had nothing to live for. I prayed to die. Consider the caveat.
While we are called to love, forgive, be compassionate and have empathy, it should never be to the detriment of ourselves or ourselves or our families. I’m sorry you had that experience. It makes me sad because from what you said, they do not sound like they are truly walking with Christ and that gives other Christians a bad rap as well. I pray you are doing better. Bless you.🙏🏼💙
@@TankGirlMohawk thank you. 💙
“You know a guy is done with you when he’s rowing away” 😂
Seems this pastor has major issues with families, geandparents,,,check yourself.
I sense the same. Any family outside of your spouse and your own children seem to be problematic for him. In fact, I don't think he even looks at extended family members as family. So once you're married with you own kids, your mom, dad, siblings, etc. are no longer consider to be family.
He is off base. There may be extreme cases that need a cutoff, but that is the exception, not the rule. Jesus desires reconciliation. Satan desires division and destruction. Who should be doing the reconciling? We, the Christian. Our unsaved relatives are doing Satan's work. We shouldn't be joining in.
I don’t get that at all. He’s giving ways to deal with issues that can come up in toxic family situations if everyone is willing to do it.
In July 2014 after 1 year of marriage my then wife abandoned me because of my in laws. Her family was and are extremely toxic and controlling. Fast forward to July 1, 2023 and she abandoned me and our two kids this time after 10 years of marriage. It was our daughter’s 8th birthday so it was a mess. This time again her family was egging her on but she also made friends with this super toxic people. The woman in the family is a witch that you would think is the actual embodiment of Jezebel. The woman’s husband is a spineless Ahab. Her children are the definition of dysfunction. My soon to be ex wife had been having an affair with the ladies son apparently. This kid isn’t a man. He doesn’t work but lives with his mom and has never worked. He’s almost 30 and she left us for that family after knowing them for not even a year. They’re really into witchcraft and the sovereign citizen movement which is basically an anarchist movement.
I will never take her back after all of this. Learn from me. They will hurt you again. This time my children are hurt. Last time I only had to hurt. Protect your kids!! A snake always sheds its skin and only comes back bigger and worse.
Sad but I pray you get healed and move on happily 😊
I respectfully disagree. God can and does change people. But they have to be willing to change. Does not mean you have to take her back (which she will want eventually, I can almost guarantee you,) but it means don’t let this harden your heart. Pray for her, pray a hedge of protection around her, for you children, if nothing else. She is their mom. Forgive her so you can heal and if it’s God’s will, reconcile. If not, God has a plan. 🙏🏼
So the young man doing the intro with a wedding band flirting with the girl is kinda a bad thing. Might wanna check this before broadcast...just sayin'.
Maybe it’s his wife?
Seriously? Hours
And here, I thought Satan was the one using every deceitful measure imaginable to separate a family unit.
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I posted a comment to this video on another account, but it appears to have been deleted by the owner of this channel. I commented that the “Classic Truck Giveaway” thing was improper (because it’s gambling, and Christians shouldn’t be gambling at church).
If the person who deleted my last comment also reads this one, I hope they would look into their heart and ask themself: Does shadow-banning criticism of church-sanctioned gambling feel like the right thing to do? Does that bring glory to God?
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I don't really consider this guy a preacher as much as a Christian based speaker.
What do you do if you’re the one that’s been cut off?
REPENT
Ask for more information before making a judgement. When I became saved and shared my faith with my family they rallied against me and made rules about not speaking about religion or politics. They were cruel and attempted to drive a wedge between myself and my adult daughter to keep her from becoming "brainwashed" by Christianity. My wife and I find them difficult to deal with and now we are the ones that are distancing ourselves from them. Five years later, we just pray for them and send them gospel messages when we email. Being cut off works both ways. Sometimes God will allow relationships to be cut off if they're unhealthy, it doesn't always matter which side does the cutting. God bless.
Let them go. Give them space. One of my daughters cut me off, didn't respond to me for 2 years. Now she is suddenly back after having a baby. Give God the time and space to work in their hearts and heal them of their issues. Because adult Christians who cut out other people from their lives are not spiritually mature and only the Holy Spirit can change them, grow them up to learn how to endure other's faults. They truly believe they are spiritually superior to others and have it all together. Give God room to show them they are also sinners and need others to forgive them of their faults. It's very very hard to let go, but let them go.
I’m cut off from two of my children - after a very toxic divorce and my ex left the church and said he does not believe in “that God” anymore. We’d been baptized together and raised our kids in the church. But Satan gets a foot hold and estranges even Christian marriages and families. Does not mean you are the toxic being cut off. The answer is to pray, ask God to convict you of your own sin in the situation, which he will, repent and pray for the other party. People do evil things to the very people they profess to love the most when Satan can get in between them. Generational sin is real and acceptance that people have free will. We can only pray and keep our hearts open and our side of the street clean. If they come back, make sure you’re healthy enough to know how to handle it. I’m so sorry you’re going through it.
Go to God and ask Him why. There may be things you need to release so that He can work on you. Release those things.
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What is your hang up about "carrying people"? You use it in the most peculiar ways. You don't sound like you actually know love. You sound like you are deeply rooted in fear.
Making their burdens your burdens?
A church should't be doing truck givaways
It's all about the Benjamins with this guy
What do you mean
家族とは。
苦楽共に、出来る者達の事です。
足でまといの、役立たず側近者は、全て家族構成の、縁切る事です。
役立たずの社員は、全て解雇する事です。
手足の無い、不具役立たずは、安楽死させる事なのです。