#40 Gillian Butler is James' wife and she gives her story of Oberstown, prison, UCC and employment.

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  • Special thank to my wife Gillian for sharing her story. There aren't many females who share their story and I've no doubt this will resonate with many who are currently struggling just like Gillian was.
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Komentáře • 193

  • @sankey1988
    @sankey1988 Před rokem +9

    I'm ashamed to say I never knew the "k" word was a derogatory term. When I listened to Gillian we sat down with our kids and said we won't use that word anymore. Thank you to Gillian's and you guys always educating us and helping us be better and know better

  • @amysusanohanlon2635
    @amysusanohanlon2635 Před 3 lety +12

    My beautiful mom's sister Gillian a Great auntie for us and my mom would be very proud looking down at you...love you.... Great podcast guy's again xxx

  • @eileenbailey8634
    @eileenbailey8634 Před 2 lety +7

    All your Podcasts should be brought into the educational system in every school in Ireland,

  • @orlamcdonnell6607
    @orlamcdonnell6607 Před 2 lety +22

    This interview is absolutely fantastic. I am a Norrie myself and I felt so so proud listening to Gillian. You are an inspirational lady. Well done.

  • @dennis1662
    @dennis1662 Před 3 lety +16

    That's what you call the "defiant power of the human spirit." Well done to each of you. Truly remarkable.

  • @irishsphynx
    @irishsphynx Před 3 lety +27

    This is definitely one of the best podcasts I've watched ever. So much respect for Gillian as a woman. Fair play to all three of you.

  • @liviamul
    @liviamul Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gillian you are a huge inspirational woman, if listened back to this episode so many times because it's such a relatable life story thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏

  • @JT-zn3wb
    @JT-zn3wb Před 3 lety +8

    I went to london in the 80s worked on sites lottie of my fellow irish men treated us poorly.i worked for travelers on tarmac.always played me.would never let me by a drink if I met them in a pub.always respected the travelling community.

  • @CorkRef
    @CorkRef Před 3 lety +29

    Wow ..... Respect ✊ to the 3 of you , it so unfair the world we live in and the crosses we get to carry are never made the same .... hugely inspiring and you are all unbelievably WORTHY human beings..... imposter syndrome is such a prevalent disease that is really unknown and dismissed.... Thanks 🙏

  • @timshannon1399
    @timshannon1399 Před rokem +5

    I can identify with the three of you.Cant find words to praise what you are doing.I am getting great help from your podcasts,Keep doing what you are doing,Absolutely brilliant,God bless your work.

  • @sorchaobrien9228
    @sorchaobrien9228 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Beautiful podcast ❤ beautiful couple ❤❤

  • @riverdonoghue9992
    @riverdonoghue9992 Před 3 lety +23

    Yes timmy hit the nail on the head when he spoke about being in a constant state of fight or flight and the damage done to the nervous system. Lots of people going around like this and they dont even realise it. You guys deserve an award for your podcasts.

  • @josephsonoftheuniverse5541

    I was in oberstown when first built they kept you locked in a room for the first two days to observe you, I was 12 and found a book in the room
    "I am David"
    It was the first time I sat still long enough to read a book ..thy turned the lights out at ten...so read it at the window from the light of the spotlight....best night of my life !!!
    The first morning I got out into the house one...a feast !!! Cornflakes rice crispy weetabix hot milk cold milk orange juice ...wow ! I loved it.... I've never smoked but the gave three cigarettes a day to the boys to keep them quite...staff were brilliant think they were there for all the right reasons...had a few nights in the padded cell tied up like a turkey ..weird thing was they pumped in opera music ...to calm or annoy not sure ..... I loved it and was well used to it as my mother had a crush on paveroti ...... I know the shoes she walked in...good on her.

  • @lisafinn1540
    @lisafinn1540 Před rokem +3

    brilliant interview. and beautiful 😍 wife

  • @hazelrobinsonbayley
    @hazelrobinsonbayley Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is brilliant .well done to you xxx

  • @procoachinggroup5691
    @procoachinggroup5691 Před 3 lety +7

    Such a clever articulate woman, well done Gillian, thanks for sharing all.

  • @mollieholmes5016
    @mollieholmes5016 Před 3 lety +8

    Wow! What a woman! Absolutely amazing story and how far Gillian has come is unbelievable. I could literally listen to her all day. Amazing 👏 x

  • @JT-zn3wb
    @JT-zn3wb Před 3 lety +5

    Ah lads and what a lady.i just came across the lads a few days ago just great.im in youghal and my mother and us her kids where the only house that would fill the travelers water .it stood to me forever to respect everyone and when they where adults they would call for a chat .they never forgot .

  • @fordford9133
    @fordford9133 Před 3 lety +6

    This is what you call powerful

  • @thegoat8570
    @thegoat8570 Před 7 měsíci

    Such a beautiful lady such an inspiration so beautiful ,such a beautiful looking lady ❤❤❤

  • @annjordan7643
    @annjordan7643 Před 3 lety +7

    Well done Gillian. I cried, I laughed. You put a very human face to prisoners, to addiction, to loss , to recovery; to the challenges that life throws. Ann J

  • @brendameehan4776
    @brendameehan4776 Před 3 lety +14

    I had wondered about the women that James and Timmy respectfully refer to at times in previous podcasts and it was such a lovely podcast to listen to you Gillian. Have no doubt your personality with your honesty and humour with help alot of young people in Cork.

  • @mollyhague6546
    @mollyhague6546 Před rokem +1

    Well done Gill James timmy we've grown up now glad 2 c u and James r doing so well.well done Boyz.

  • @karenlong8316
    @karenlong8316 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks Gillian. Beautiful inside and out. My heart is full after listening to your story. Outstanding 💜

  • @maggiequeencull6135
    @maggiequeencull6135 Před 3 lety +9

    Omg Gillian your story is amazing xx I relate to you soo much I’m study youth work in cork college of commerce. I’m from traveller backround nd didn’t even Knew I was from an ethnic group till I started college. I applied for UCC in youth and community and always have that mindset what the fuck am I doing I’ll make a shame of myself it’s a biggest step of my life. I’m sorry for your lost it’s not easy. I lost my brother. Well done you are beautiful inside out and strong women

    • @gillianbutler6930
      @gillianbutler6930 Před 3 lety +3

      Hi Margaret. Thanks for your lovely comment and I'm delighted to hear your pursing education as we need more Travellers working within this field. The Youth and Community degree is great and will be eye opening for you and will open many doors in regards to employment. If you ever need advice or want to talk to me you can reach on Instagram gill__Leonard or twitter @gillian_cork. Take care 💜

    • @maggiequeencull6135
      @maggiequeencull6135 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gillianbutler6930 Hey Gillian, thank you for your reply. It was amazing just listening to you, I agree with you and you definitely an inspiring woman, to show travellers and all young women that it can be done. I'll be following you. Thank you 😊👌

  • @davidr3830
    @davidr3830 Před 3 lety +10

    Powerful, vulnerable, beautiful and brilliant.

  • @kerrmalone795
    @kerrmalone795 Před rokem +2

    Thank you 🙏 I’m sober, no longer go to meetings so really appreciate the pod. Lovely girl.

  • @kevinlong3238
    @kevinlong3238 Před 3 lety +2

    Brilliant story gillian knew your sister very well beautiful person she had a heart of gold she is buried next to my father you should be so proud of yourself well done as well to timmy and james

    • @gillianbutler6930
      @gillianbutler6930 Před 3 lety +2

      Hi Kevin. Thanks a mill. Marie was a beautiful person and is missed dearly ❤️

    • @kevinlong3238
      @kevinlong3238 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gillianbutler6930 she sure was gillian and she always faced her difficultys with dignity and grace look after yourself gillian and james ye should b so proud of yourselves cheers

  • @tigertrainingacademy4555
    @tigertrainingacademy4555 Před 3 lety +6

    Wow unbelievable. Real and honest absolutely brilliant . Gillian such a beautiful person .

  • @jenbamby
    @jenbamby Před 3 lety +9

    Jesus wept what a story Gillian.. Fair play to you and all that you have accomplished and overcame. Amazing podcast, only just came across it.. Keep up all the good & hard work all of you.

    • @gillianbutler6930
      @gillianbutler6930 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Jennifer ♥️

    • @normanorma8505
      @normanorma8505 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@gillianbutler6930 what an inspiration just listened to your story I know you from st Frances yrs back wellllllllllll done , you should be so proud of yourself xx

  • @rhonagerrard6097
    @rhonagerrard6097 Před 2 lety +3

    She came across so well, what a lady 👏

  • @darraghomalley1896
    @darraghomalley1896 Před 2 lety +3

    What a brilliant woman to change her life the way she did,incredible story fair play to her 😘

  • @yogawithlisa7219
    @yogawithlisa7219 Před 3 lety +7

    Brilliant podcast, well done gillian. You should be so proud of yourself ❤️

  • @annieosullivan1043
    @annieosullivan1043 Před 3 lety +6

    What a stunning woman

  • @daithiosull5627
    @daithiosull5627 Před 3 lety +11

    Good listening to Gill she knows her stuff, well done everyone another good podcast 👍🏻

  • @viffey
    @viffey Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing girl! I remember her as a young child and I couldn't be prouder. Good for you Gillian xx

  • @eileenomahony4309
    @eileenomahony4309 Před 2 lety +2

    Well done Gillian for sharing your story. One resilient lady!

  • @grainnebowles1756
    @grainnebowles1756 Před 3 lety +5

    Fantastic story Gillian well done you should be so proud.

  • @riverdonoghue9992
    @riverdonoghue9992 Před 3 lety +4

    Excellent podcast. Well done to Gillian for addressing language and labelling.

  • @cecelang475
    @cecelang475 Před rokem +2

    Love this,it’s like being in a meeting but in the comfort of my home,fab work guys ❤️

  • @eileenroche7659
    @eileenroche7659 Před 3 lety +5

    Well done Gillian. Brilliant podcast 💯💯💯👏👏👏👏💞💞💞💞💞

  • @bm6239
    @bm6239 Před 3 lety +4

    Loved this podcast. What a beautiful woman. And I love the two presenters, so honest and humble. Thanks for sharing.

  • @michellenagle2431
    @michellenagle2431 Před rokem +1

    Unreal...thanks so much for giving so much of yourselves 😌

  • @sineadderossa3100
    @sineadderossa3100 Před 3 lety +7

    Definitely my favourite podcast of all of them.what an amazing lady,huge respect to u for sharing your experience.i could relate to so much.james u are very lucky to have such a beautiful genuine articulate wife. I'm sure you are very proud. Gillian you are a fantastic role model girl.Timmy you said "when u become the person full of life that u would want to be around yourself" I thought that was brilliant.james gillian and timmy ye are a credit to Cork 👏💚

  • @mhawthorn0224
    @mhawthorn0224 Před 3 lety +6

    Admiration to the 3 of you and to all that carry the crosses of life, I've come to the belief that unless you have suffered then its hard to understand, but having survived, it invariably makes you a better stronger person. All lives matter!!

  • @helenfurlong3944
    @helenfurlong3944 Před 3 lety +6

    Brilliant 😀

  • @thefoolhasitsuses
    @thefoolhasitsuses Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for sharing, recovery in action, inspiration & hope. "When you know different you can do different" I will quote you Gillian! 🙏

  • @noreenmurphy889
    @noreenmurphy889 Před 3 lety +5

    I admire Gillian and the beautiful person she is both inside and outside. All 3 of you are honest about yere past and the challenges ye faced and overcome. I come from a complete different background but unfortunately it was when I grew up to be an adult found out how toxic the effect drink and drugs have on an individual and their family and the legacy of both and can lead to physical and mental torture. The person in addiction blames everyone else not seeing the war zone it creates in a loved ones mind and body leading them into ill health, the stress of coping, stress and loneliness of letting them go and sending them into the arms of God and pray each night that they will ask and take the road to real recovery. The talk is real and it tells us that people can choose the right path to improve their physical and mental health and grow both personally and educationally, education doesn't necessarily means getting a degree, understanding yourself and your reaction to the trauma life has thrown at you. No child deserves or asked for trauma and horrible things to befall them and it certainly affects their development and can live in fight or flight mode for years or forever if they do not work on themselves to give them the confidence to grow. Unfortunately many end up taking their own life leading others affected into a lifetime of trauma and many end up taking the routes ye all spoke about in yere early years. Keep up the good work and spreading the word of positivity and giving us all hope for a better future.

    • @CorkRef
      @CorkRef Před 3 lety +1

      Couldn't agree more Noreen...... summed up here brilliantly by Mary Gauthier czcams.com/video/-cykN7Liie8/video.html
      A story of war but so apt to life in general

    • @gillianbutler6930
      @gillianbutler6930 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you ♥️

  • @tomwilkinson724
    @tomwilkinson724 Před 3 lety +6

    Great family affair show ..well done Gillian James and Timmy...the honesty is fantastic...real genuine....that's the secret sauce of this show #40

  • @jeanfleming1227
    @jeanfleming1227 Před 3 lety +5

    Fantastic interview by Gillian.Very honest,very real ,got alot of identification and hope from listening to her. Grateful .

  • @jenjones4952
    @jenjones4952 Před 3 lety +7

    Absolutely brilliant, a very warm person! I think this podcast will resinate and help alot of people. Well done to you Gill.

  • @Rustytrumpets
    @Rustytrumpets Před 3 lety +7

    I am amazed I came across this. I just realized that I crossed paths years ago with Timmy giving him a lift to work in Middleton around 16 years ago.
    I'm now living abroad in Vietnam for over 10 years and am so grateful to have found this podcast. Love the content and the work you are doing. Well done to Timmy and the crew.

    • @timothylong9906
      @timothylong9906 Před 3 lety

      Ceers James, remember it well pal. Hope your well, 🤝🙏

  • @krystleodriscoll5918
    @krystleodriscoll5918 Před 3 lety +4

    Well done Gillian!

  • @grainnefoster
    @grainnefoster Před 3 lety +4

    What a brilliant podcast. Gillian you are beautiful, articulate, intelligent and have made me think a lot about bias and prejudice towards the travelling community. It’s wonderful when you go to the prison that you understand so well what people are going through there. Thanks for sharing your story.

  • @helenburke4722
    @helenburke4722 Před 2 lety +2

    Gillian is an inspiration. Thank you x

  • @LauraCourtney102
    @LauraCourtney102 Před 3 lety +2

    Ah what an amazing woman & what a story of redemption 😍
    I could listen to her all day, would love to see her on again sometime 🤗

  • @deirdresings3897
    @deirdresings3897 Před rokem +2

    Brilliant interview! Her strength and resilience is inspiring.

  • @jennxxguccersxx
    @jennxxguccersxx Před 3 lety +4

    Another Brill podcast Timmy and James , Gillian you are a inspiration what a power couple yourself and James are well done wishing you many years of success and happiness

  • @mulluna
    @mulluna Před 3 lety +12

    OMG fantastic podcast, Gillian is so so brave to share her story, honestly I would have no idea what people go through or the life some people lead only for your podcast, I feel so bad your all had the go through what u did but thank god you have got through it and are creating awareness.

  • @grahamhornibrook9468
    @grahamhornibrook9468 Před 3 lety +7

    Very gripping podcast this one, really strong story, well done Gillian your sister would be proud of your success and great stuff from the lads as usual, keep up the good work, Lurch👍

    • @amyohanlon3701
      @amyohanlon3701 Před rokem +1

      My mother which is Gillian's sister Maria whose dead God rest mummy..Gillian is one of all💖💖💖

  • @olivianolan1187
    @olivianolan1187 Před 2 lety +2

    Very open & honest, great listen, well done Gillian, an inspiring story!

  • @DianeD862
    @DianeD862 Před 2 lety +3

    Your wife seems a lovely lady 🐱 love these podcasts all very interesting.Love the Cork accents.Keep it up.😂😂

  • @martindoolan8949
    @martindoolan8949 Před 3 lety +5

    Inspiring stuff, well done Gillian, James and Timmy, ye are a true inspiration to overcoming adversity in life. And that 'word' its like the word junkie, not a respectful way of addressing our fellow human beings, I will be requesting that 'word' not to be said in my company any more, I hear you.

  • @jhughe39
    @jhughe39 Před 3 lety +4

    A beautiful person inside and out. Thank you for sharing your story so eloquently. Well done the lads as usual. It’s hard to interview someone you know so well!

  • @beroregan5267
    @beroregan5267 Před 3 lety +1

    What a woman definitely the best interview so far so honest so raw and so funny i was laughing and crying i watched this one night when i couldnt sleep and went back to bed and slept

  • @larcummins7344
    @larcummins7344 Před 3 lety +5

    Amazing stuff what the 2 lads are doing, totall respect for them and Gillian.🤜🤛👍

  • @avemaria9113
    @avemaria9113 Před 2 lety +2

    You are the definition of empowerment. You've overcome so much advertisy, if I can be half the person you are, I'll be okay .

  • @sylviamccarthy8353
    @sylviamccarthy8353 Před 3 lety +2

    Fantastic interview well done Gillian a great story

  • @lifeofaimee6259
    @lifeofaimee6259 Před 3 lety +4

    Amazing story....

  • @bubbles8874
    @bubbles8874 Před 3 lety +2

    Another brilliant interview. Very inspirational story Gillian

  • @eamonpearse7089
    @eamonpearse7089 Před 3 lety +4

    Absolutely fabulous interview, Gill I have always loved your honesty and this is what set you free. Well done to you both.

  • @patoconnor6975
    @patoconnor6975 Před 3 lety +2

    An absolutely brilliant pod cast Gillian you spoke honestly and giving your experience in life to date and James and Timmy fantastic lads 🙏🙏💚

  • @eileenbailey8634
    @eileenbailey8634 Před 2 lety +3

    What a brilliant Podcast, I’m deeply touched listening to you three beautiful people , raising awareness, showing love and compassion to others , Thank you and God bless ye . ❤️

  • @eoinoflaherty7760
    @eoinoflaherty7760 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic testimony and brilliant conversation, thanks to all

  • @tracystack3240
    @tracystack3240 Před 3 lety +4

    Love these podcasts. Unbelievable stuff. One of the best so far. 👍👍👍

  • @patti4785
    @patti4785 Před 3 lety +6

    Blown away, amazing youngone, you're blessed James to have met such an authentic person. I love how listening to you all, its like sitting chatting in yer sitting room, I hope you and Timmy never change how you are in the podcasts. Real, honest to goodness genuine! Love to you all, Happy Easter 🙏🙏

  • @marycollins2918
    @marycollins2918 Před 3 lety +5

    Hilarious. Tabor Lodge is like a nursery 🥳😀

  • @SuperJerome35
    @SuperJerome35 Před 3 lety +5

    Great Interview again Lads. Thanks Gillian for your authenticity and honesty. Can very much connect with your 12 Step experience, meet the right sponsor and you have a great chance of making it through to a more balanced state of conciousness, very often syncronicities allow for this when the shift has happened through working the Steps and even that spiritual awakening can happen in that space sometimes unknown to ourselves. All good comes to thiose who persevere and wait. Took the personal development path also through Shep and found it a great grounding for the academic setting as I found/find the academic setting almost opposing the other. I think Jung put it best "Learn your theories as well as you can, but put them aside when you touch the miracle of the living soul " Carl Jung. Thanks again

  • @henrykerry4150
    @henrykerry4150 Před rokem +1

    ❤great to hear your story gillian ..great women to give your story of life cork alliances great person think her name was vicky a lady very understanding women ..great coverage in a cork women

  • @emmettmccarthy7247
    @emmettmccarthy7247 Před 3 lety +4

    what a great inspiring story.enjoyed it so much.just shows what 1 can do if u put ur mind and effort into it.the worlds ur oyster.well done u 3.what a catch u made james,gillian is so beautiful and genuine.well done timmy u talks so honestly bout things and ur happy and content in ur life.thats the holy grail when ur at peace with urself .had me laughing when ye we talking bout been on the run.so funny looking back the way at the way we all thought it was our goal to get locked up.🤔👍🙏

    • @gillianbutler6930
      @gillianbutler6930 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks a mill Emmet 🙏

    • @emmettmccarthy7247
      @emmettmccarthy7247 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gillianbutler6930 ur welcome i really enjoyed ur story.u worked hard to get where u are today u should be so proud of urself.i know james well hes doing a great job.i wish ye all the best in the future.fair play on ur achievements im sure it didnt come easy.👏

    • @timothylong9906
      @timothylong9906 Před 3 lety +1

      Cheers buddy, hope your well

  • @kevinosullivan2510
    @kevinosullivan2510 Před 3 lety +4

    brilliant new Gillian from churchfield school some podcast again yer a inspiration keep up the good work James and timmy all involved 👏

  • @niamhuimhurchu7871
    @niamhuimhurchu7871 Před 2 lety +1

    Really enjoyed listening to her story weldone gillian

  • @jan-limerick
    @jan-limerick Před 3 lety +4

    Mighty woman Gillian!! A great role model and the looks of a model too Gillian 🌸
    Another great podcast James & Timmy!!
    Happy Easter 🌼🐣💛

  • @garycoleman3082
    @garycoleman3082 Před 3 lety +4

    Great podcast I remember going to Cork alliance same time as gillian amazing how far u all have come ye are an inspiration to others including myself

  • @MaryAnn-pd3pm
    @MaryAnn-pd3pm Před 2 lety +3

    Brilliant podcast guys. Gillian you show people that regardles of your past you can change and have an amazing life. And by doing so you inspire people along the way.. Well done and congrats to you all.

  • @patrickjlinehan
    @patrickjlinehan Před 11 měsíci

    Fantastic interview. Strong woman. 👏👏👏

  • @jeanbrowne456
    @jeanbrowne456 Před rokem +1

    Inspiring interview... Beautiful, authentic women...

  • @reginaosullivan5146
    @reginaosullivan5146 Před 8 měsíci

    Fantastic listening to ye all Gillian it was great listening to your Story thanks for sharing ⭐

  • @annieosullivan1043
    @annieosullivan1043 Před 3 lety +5

    Timmy fabulous

  • @2girls1cupp
    @2girls1cupp Před 3 lety +10

    👊👊👊 james is punching 😂 great podcast as usual

  • @Amanda-mh1ee
    @Amanda-mh1ee Před 2 lety +2

    Brilliant really enjoyed listening thank you all.

  • @gavinwatters1293
    @gavinwatters1293 Před 2 lety +1

    An inspiring story. Amazing person!

  • @maryannconroy9372
    @maryannconroy9372 Před 2 lety +2

    Great woman thanks for sharing your story my heart drop when you mentioned ob town my young brother spend a lot of time there before going to spike Island sadly my brother has past a few years ago from an od of drugs rip also from the travelling community hope your story helps someone out there 🙏 thank you

  • @OShaughnessyC
    @OShaughnessyC Před rokem

    What a beautiful woman. Great interview.

  • @joannaokeeffe6913
    @joannaokeeffe6913 Před 3 lety +5

    Brilliant podcast

  • @73sindo
    @73sindo Před 3 lety +4

    A wonderful podcast. So much insight. So much learning..and a great resource for the community 🌻🌻🌻

  • @emmaodonovan3341
    @emmaodonovan3341 Před 2 lety +2

    What an inspiring story!! Thank you for sharing 🙌

  • @denismccarthy-zv2cw
    @denismccarthy-zv2cw Před rokem +1

    this is a absolutely fantastic.

  • @paulahannigan362
    @paulahannigan362 Před 3 lety +3

    Amazing 👏

  • @gerdublin7379
    @gerdublin7379 Před 2 lety +2

    Brilliant lads, keep them coming great guest been there has the t shirt, up the Dubs ✌️