Is de Bijbel veranderd?
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Veel moslims vertellen ons dat de Bijbel is veranderd en de Koran niet. Hieronder een beantwoording van deze vraag en wat mogelijkheden voor vragen die je aan je Moslimvrienden over dit onderwerp zou kunnen vragen.
Let wel op. Dit zijn hulpmiddelen om met Moslims te spreken. Maar laten we het belangrijkste niet uit het oog verliezen. Wij hebben niet als doel om een discussie te winnen, maar om hen te wijzen op bekering en de verlossing die er is in Christus Jezus. Dus deze video is alleen een hulpmiddel, maar mag niet een doel op zich worden. Het doel is om hen het evangelie te brengen. (Johannes 3: 16, Johannes 5: 24, Handelingen 4: 12, 16: 30,31, 17: 30-31, Romeinen 1: 14,15, 1 Korinthe 2: 2, 2 Korinthe 5: 20,21, Titus 2: 11-15)
Manuscripten van de Koran: corpuscoranicu...
Zie ook: www.bol.com/nl...
Verzen om met Moslims te bespreken:
Surah 3:3-4, 3:78,7:157, 5:68, 18:27, 6: 34, 6:114,115, 5: 43,47,68, 10:94, 15:9 18:27
De tekst waar Moslims vaak mee zullen komen is: surah 2:79. Dit vers gaat (en ook de Tafsir bevestigt dit) alleen over de joodse geschriften gaat en niet over de Incil (dus daarmee is al zeker niet bewezen dat de Incil is veranderd). En met een serieuze uitleg van dit vers kan je echt niet tot de conclusie komen dat het hier over de verandering van de Joodse geschriften gaat. Het gaat hier over mensen die de schrift schrijven met hun eigen handen en dan zeggen: Dit komt van God. Kan dit ooit over de Tauwrat gaan? De koran zegt duidelijk dat de Tauwrat van God komt, hoe kan de koran dan hier zeggen dat dit door mensen is geschreven? Vergelijk dit vers ook met surah 2:78 waar duidelijk gesproken wordt over ‘ongeletterden die het boek niet kennen’. Deze kunnen nooit de Bijbel schrijven.
Daarbij komt nog dat al zou dit vers kloppen, dan nog bevestigt dit dat de hele Bijbel niet veranderd kan zijn, omdat de Bijbel al wereldwijd in bezit was van de Christenen (dus zowel de Tauwrat, Zaboer als Incil) en dus nooit door een groepje ongeletterde Joden wereldwijd veranderd zou kunnen worden.
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Heel erg bedankt! Ik ben nu nog dichter bij Allah ﷻ gekomen door u en uw zinloze vragen!
Dat is pas een zinloos commentaar. Je hebt gewoon geen antwoorden. Lol.
@@Emelletje1
Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God The Creator
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
6. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”
9. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.
10. John 17:21-23
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.”
11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)
12. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative.
13. Hebrews 4:15 (compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See
James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt.
Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.”
14. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation
@@Emelletje1 het is waar! Dit soort filmpjes zorgen ervoor dat ons geloof in de Islam nog sterker wordt! Ga zo door! Creëer nog meer twijfel met jullie filmpjes onder de Christenen! Joram van Klaveren kan je er alles over vertellen!
De koran bevat stukken uit de bijbel. Als de bijbel corrupt is dan is koran dat ook.
Goede en waardevolle tips! Bedankt!
Topvideo! Het argument van Julius Cesar gebruiken wij ook in één van onze video's :) Tof dat je ook ruimte biedt om wedervragen voor moslims te delen, daar willen wij van leren!
Gods zegen
Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God The Creator
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
6. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”
9. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.
10. John 17:21-23
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.”
11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)
12. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative.
13. Hebrews 4:15 (compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See
James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt.
Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.”
14. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation
@@amazingamazigh6847
Goededag, vraagje je hebt veel verzen uit de bijbel geplukt maar weet jij ook in welke context ze moeten staan?
Aan jouw een vraag.
Het belangrijkste gebed de salat staat dat beschreven in de koran?
En welke zoon van Abraham moest hij offeren staat dat ook ergens in de koran?
Jullie zeggen ook Allah is meest genadevolle maar hij is ook meest rechtvaardige. Hoe kan hij mij die een godslasterde, overspelende, leugenachtige dief überhaupt in zijn heilige smetteloze hemel toestaan?
Groeten Chris
Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God The Creator
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
6. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”
9. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.
10. John 17:21-23
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.”
11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)
12. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative.
13. Hebrews 4:15 (compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See
James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt.
Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.”
14. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation
Waar heeft mohammed gezegd dat de bijbel gezagdwekkend id en de woord van God?
Onderstaande verzen uit de Koran zijn nuttig:
Surah 3:3-4, 3:78,7:157, 5:68, 18:27, 6: 34, 6:114,115, 5: 43,47,68, 10:94, 15:9 18:27
De moslims zeggen altijd dat de bijbel veranderd is Maar De moslims hebben zelf de bijbel veranderd en noemen die boek de koran
Want de bijbel het oude testament en het nieuwe testament zijn velen oude dan de Koran want de Koran kwam 600 of 700 jaar neer het nieuwe testament van de bijbel en de Thora is zelf nog oude die ook in bijbel voorkomt. Maar in de Koran zijn die boeken van Thora ook veranderd
Kom met bewijs dat moslims de Bijbel veranderd hebben zoals jij beweert.
En als je beweerd dat een ouder boek meer de waarheid is dan een later gekomen boek dan zou jij de Thora moeten volgen ipv de Bijbel.
Verbreed je kennis voordat je een reactie plaatst.
@@Ollahollahieen van de bewijzen dat de koran verandert is:
Miskath al masabi 2221
Een prachtige sahih hadith die u verteld over de allereerste koranverbranding door kalief uthman..
Dit is gebeurd omdat de koran zo perfect bewaard is gebleven🎉
Uthman vetbrandde 6 vetsies 😂
Maak eens een reisje naar Sodom en Gomorra de ruïnes staan er nog, een waarschuwing van God tot op de huidige dag
De bijbel is meerdere keren veranderd!
Graag even aangeven wat precies, wanneer en door wie?
@@Emelletje1 kijk maar de Evangeliën! De 4 evangeliën wijken op veel punten van elkaar af. Met name het evangelie volgens Johannes! We weten niet een wie de evangeliën hebben geschreven! Er zitten veel fouten en tegenstrijdigheden in de boeken van de bijbel. De drie-eenheid komt er ook niet in voor. Als je de vertalingen naast de Griekse manuscripten plaatst kom je ook veel vertaalfouten tegen!!
@@Emelletje1
Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God The Creator
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
6. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”
9. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.
10. John 17:21-23
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.”
11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)
12. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative.
13. Hebrews 4:15 (compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See
James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt.
Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.”
14. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation
@@Emelletje1 als Jezus God is dan is hij dus Jahwe! Als hij Jahwe is dan is hij dus de God van het oude Testament oftewel de Tenach. Als Jezus de God van de Tenach is dan is Jezus dus een gewelddadige bloeddorstige God die ervan geniet om mensen te laten lijden!
@@amazingamazigh6847 Is dat niet een beschrijving van het moslim extremisme in deze wereld?
In het OT zijn er een aantal volken die onder het oordeel van God vielen. Zij volgden goden die gruwelijkheden begingen. Zoals kinderen offeren en kinderen door het vuur laten gaan. God weet alles en wij weten niets.
Laat het oordeel aan Hem. Hij is rechtvaardig.
God heeft geen behagen in de dood van mensen maar wil dat iedereen behouden wordt.
2 Petrus 3:9
Koran is nooit veranderd, omdat altijd uit hoofd is geleerd. Bij bijbel niemand leert deze uit hoofd.
Probeer eens te kijken hoeveel keer zo dik de Bijbel is in vergelijking met de Koran. Daar zit ongeveer een factor 8 tussen. Dus de Bijbel is 8 keer zo dik als de Koran.
Dus bijbel is 8x zo dik? Koran is 2 centimeter dik. Dat betekent dat bijbel 2x8=16 centimeter dik is? Zo zie je dat jullie altijd liegen
Het gaat over de hoeveelheid tekst. Je kunt eenvoudig controleren of ik gelijk heb.
@@Growing-Faith ik begrijp het gewoon niet dat jullie beweren dat Jesus god de zoon is.! Alle antwoorden ken je in de laatste boek van God vinden de koran
Daar heb ik ook een video over gemaakt. Dit heeft vaak te maken met een verkeerd begrip van wat het betekent dat Jezus de Zoon van God is.
czcams.com/video/DmHMboOuxyI/video.html