Machine Tool Appearance Monarch, Axelson, Brown & Sharpe
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2023
- There are other schools of thought of this aspect of machining, for example the Navy Trained instructor at the long gone CC program here had the machines in spotless condition all grouted to the floor and the floor mopped at the end of the day. In contrast many shops can be a little too far in the other direction with dull shabby looking machines with spit shined owners that smell like flowers.
Congratulations on 40 years.
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Hoppes #9 has a wonderful aroma.....takes me back to my youth in the 1960's......
cleaning some bores........
It does still have the aroma but you use more and it gets strong
Happy Anniversary my friend, over 40 years ......amazing....you are one great catch for a gal.......now go and give her a big hug and kiss....
She puts up with a lot here
Great show and to congratulation with your anniversary great action .
Thank you very much!
yes.....good product.....thanks for sharing......you da man Don......
It is logical that this is a good product, I did not think of it until a viewer mentioned it
Congrats on your anniversary old friend! In the old south bend book on How to Run a Lathe talks about what a real machinist is and isnt. Real machinists clean their machines and keep them clean to extend their lives. Unfortunately, many of us retrieve our machines in less than wonderful shape. a fight of flaking paint, nicks and dents, rusty ways etc.
The Axelson lathe was the least costly and likely the most dirty deeply stained small gear head lathe on ebay.
Happy Anniversary to you and the wife! Great video. Be Safe.
Thank you! Will do!
🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘 Congrats on being alive!!! I am too.......haaaahaaaaaaaaa Cheers, Davo
What is left of me says thanks!
I know that Graylab sound.....working in Darkrooms for over 20 years, you learn it real fast....
I used to use one for an alarm clock in Hollywood, and had it hooked to the lights to turn on....
power napping......thanks for all the info Don....yours truly, Paul
I still have a darkroom set up from the dark years
my dar room is in 2 gang boxes at work.....I have not used in many years....oh the stories I could tell.....@@deedeeindustrialsuperprecision
Happy anniversary dee dee, great video, keep'um coming..
More to come!
Your machines look great.......... really great. I use a cleaner called LA Awesome Cleaner. Spray it on and wipe it off pretty quickly. It takes all the coolant film and dirt off almost immediately. It's plenty strong and can be diluted. Wear gloves and work fast. But, my machines don't look like yours. Where do you buy kerosene?
40 years................. that's something special. Hang it there Don for another 40 years.
They still have it the hardware stores, thanks
Congrats on 40 years. Keep up the great work sir.
Thank you kindly
*_Happy anniversary. You're one of the lucky ones. I was going to say the other day how nice your machines look. Mine will never look like that. You have some good machines. Impressive._*
These were in pretty rough condition except the Monarch, thanks
Happy Anniversary Dee! glad you came through all the surgeries. Regards from Liverpool, UK
Thanks so much from so far
Beautiful 10EE Dee, I've always admired both it, the accessories have for it, and your immense knowledge of machine tools in general. So much so that I've had several pics of it with some beautiful tooling you made sitting on it in my 10EE porn folder for years. Yeah, I know, there's something wrong with me... I'm the (now not so) proud owner of a '69 10EE #50294. It was purchased by Delco turned Delphi Energy and Chassis, allegedly used in a modeling shop. I did find steel, brass, copper, and various plastic shavings in the pan which would fit, but it just sounds like the machine tool version of a little old lady only driving to the store and church on Sunday. It didn't have a ton of wear on it, maybe 2 tenths runout indicated off the D1 taper. Sadly it was destroyed in a fire at my brother's place. His insurance would have covered the $65,000 Monarch quoted for repair but unfortunately he died shortly afterward. All I could do was drag the carcasses of my machines home and rebuild them. I got my drill press and mill done, they were far easier than the Monarch. Picked at it over the past 2 years but it's now my primary focus. Fire sucks, it burns out all the oil then the firemen kindly douse everything with water assuring instantaneous rust. Had a brand new Bison 3-jaw chuck on it I used 1 time, and boy have they gotten ridiculously expensive! What's worse, it's high pressure water so it gets into places that happen to be facing them like 10EE spindles and associated bearings.... Just tore the spindle out of my 10EE tonight hoping it was just trash that got in the front bearing but after cleaning I found some staining and pitting on the balls from rust so it's junk. For an extra kick in the naughty bits Monarch couldn't use a standard matched set of bearings, they had to use one with an integral flange on the front bearing and a normal rear bearing. So instead of a few hundred bucks for a pair of matched angular contact bearings, it looks like several thousand for these special ones. Oddly, it has MRC 212RD ABEC5 bearings in it, I thought they came with New Departure ???? ABEC7 bearings. In any case, I certainly don't have a few grand to spend on bearings so what I got is going back in. For as much as I use the lathe and the limited number of years I've got left to play shop, they'll well out last that. I was still only showing 2 tenth's of runout before I tore it apart so plenty good enough for my whittling skills.
I'm documenting everything so the winning bidder at my estate auction will know the history and condition of the machine.
Most any bearing can be modified in the cutter grinder for a snap ring groove, that is, if you are careful and you make the snap ring too.
could you show us a drawing of what your saying on modifying bearings?
@@deedeeindustrialsuperprecisionAlthough I have a small tool & cutter grinder it doesn't have a live head, just a 5C air spindle. Even if I did have a live head, I think that's a bit out of my extremely limited grinding skill set. The groove isn't used on the bearing in this application, it's the flange it's located behind that's the real issue. I'm pretty sure where the snap ring groove is located sits inside of a bore so there would be no place for the snap ring to fit without modifying the casting. Therefore, I'm not sure that putting a groove in is going to help, I need the flange. I really haven't looked at things much, I couldn't sleep so I got up, went out to the shop and pulled the spindle before heading into work. Now that I know the original bearings are problematic, I'll head out to the shop this weekend and see if I can come up with a modification to allow a non-flanged bearing to be used in the front unless Don has something up his sleeve...
Crazy how I've used Hoppes#9 all my life, yet never thought about using it on anything other than my firearms. Thanks for that tip, and the wonderful images of your immaculate shop. I've gone the other direction in my smithy, and it's become a nightmare to work in. I'm not the neatest or most organized person to begin with, but now I'm slowly going through everything. Give me another year, and I'll have the place tidy as you could ask for.
I did not think of the Hoppes either, a viewer sent me a large bottle, the best product so far, thanks!
Will the acetone & automatic transmission mixture also remove stains?
Happy 40
Hi, thanks
How do you propose one would brighten up the machined surfaces which are not painted, but are darker due to stains and corrosion and might have minor scratches? I've played around with various scotch-brite pads and wheels, but they usually come out too bright and it will make some of that blanchard grounds surface look go away.
The woodworking machine restorers use acetone combined with automatic transmission fluid and scrub with a brass brush, this forms a dark slurry, continue until it clears up, then wipe down the machines with kerosene and over a short time the stains lift out of the cast iron. I went through this on 3 machines and it is a lot of work!
I think the woodworkers are ahead on the restoring game because that line of work fell apart first and those machines drug out to rust, thanks!
@@deedeeindustrialsuperprecision Thanks for the reply! Interesting, I'll have to give it a try. You mentioned something about acetone and oil in the video, but will give it go. Interesting point also on the woodworker being ahead of the game. Haven't really tried sourcing information from them.
So whats the story on your watch maker's lathe sitting on a bench? Also, do you still have a bridgeport? I spotted a ninty degree angle head for a bridgeport lying about there as well.
So what's with the aggressive questions, are you my new personal police officer from the fake machinist forums, I just booted one?
@@deedeeindustrialsuperprecision Really Dee? I just have an eye for shiny bobbles. My 90 degree head doesnt look like yours! I am going to need to tear it completely down.
I have been experiencing bullying from the usual sources, so I will just leave it at that, thanks for tuning in.@@devemch7851
@@deedeeindustrialsuperprecision no worries. Just checking in to see how your doing. The bullying really sucks. Your axelson really looks nice. You remind me of some of the model engineers in England. Working in sheds with every square in accounted for. I lost my home in my legal fight and my shop is in crates now as I find a new place. So watching guys like you is a motivational pleasure.