Tesla powerwall 3 Vs Enphase 5P VS Franklin vs Tesla Powerwall 2 Vs Enphase 5p Battery 2024
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Tesla Powerwall 3 vs Franklin VS Enphase 5P Battery.
00:00 Introduction Best Home Solar Battery Backup 2024. Home Energy Storage. How To Choose A Home Solar Battery Backup? What's best solar battery backup system for home
00:20 Tesla Powerwall Vs Competitors Tesla Powerwall Vs Other Batteries Tesla Powerwall 2 Vs Competitors Powerwall 3 VS Competitors Powerwall 2 vs Other Batteries
01:53 tesla powerwall vs franklin WH Vs tesla powerwall 2 vs other batteries.Franklin Whole Home battery VS Tesla Powerwall, tesla powerwall 2 vs enphase. 5P Vs franklin wh Vs Enphase 5P Vs Tesla Powerwall 3
02:10 FRanklin WH Capacity Enphase 5P Capacity Tesla Powerwall 3 Capacity Powerwall 3 Capacity
04:54 FRanklin WH Peak Power, Enphase 5P Peak PowerTesla Powerwall 2 Peak Power, Tesla Powerwall 3 Peak Power,
05:55 Franklin WH continuous Power, Enphase 5P Continuous Power, Tesla Powerwall 2 Continuous Power Powerwall 3 Continuous
06:52 Franklin WH Dimensions, Enphase 5P Dimensions, Tesla Powerwall 3 Dimensions Tesla Powerwall 2 Dimensions
08:39 Franklin WH Mounting, Enphase 5P Mounting, Tesla Powerwall 2 Mounting, Tesla Powerwall 3 Mounting
09:34 Franklin WH Battery Chemistry, Enphase 5P Battery Chemistry Tesla Powerwall 2 Battery Chemistry, Tesla Powerwall 3 Battery Chemistry
10:26 Franklin WH Communication, Enphase 5P Communication, Tesla Powerwall 2 Communication, Tesla Powerwall 3 Communication
11:12 Adding Battery To Home Solar System Ac Coupling VS Dc Coupling FRanklin WH, Tesla Powerwall 3 Tesla Powerwall 2
12:26 What is the difference between powerwall 2 and 3. Tesla PowerWall 3 VS 2. Ac Coupled vs DC Coupled Pros and cons. Ac Coupled Battery Backup
16:22 Franklin WH Storm Watch, Enphase Storm Guard, Tesla Powerwall Storm Watch
16:45 Franklin WH Generator Support, Enphase 5P Generator Support , Tesla Powerwall Generator Support
19:29 Franklin WH Warranty, Enphase 5P Warranty, Tesla Powerwall 3 Warranty, Tesla Powerwall 2 Warranty
19:51 Enphase PCS Avoid Main Panel Upgrade MPU
21:21 Franklin WH App VS Enphase 5P App VS Powerwall app Enphase Energy Management
24:01 Monitoring Franklin WH Enphase 5P Powerwall 2 & 3
24:48 Enphase Energy System App
25:10 Load Shedding Enphase IQ Controller
26:12 FRanklin WH Cost VS Tesla Powerwall Cost Vs Enphase 5P Cost
26:56 Conclusion: Best Home Solar Battery Backup. Which battery is the best for solar
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Greg Can Be Reached at :
solarbygreengreg@gmail.com
727-219-9785 text or call
For Product Sponsorships , Solar Consulting and quote , etc
I’m located in Tampa , Florida Area but I do have contacts with solar companies across U.S.A.
Quick update: 1) PW 3 recent update allows AC Coupling
2) Video was done pre-release PW 3 Specs have been updated-see tesla spec sheet.
Thanks for this detailed review and your comments .. i think enphase has the best product .. lets face it you are going to be living with your choice for a long time .. enphase is the best to live with .. in terms of longest warranty . One app does it all , and biggest versatility …
I agree … right now enphase is best … not cheapest …but you get what you pay for .. thanks for watching
Quick update: 1) PW 3 recent Tesla update allows AC Coupling as of May 2024
2) Video was done pre-release PW 3 Specs have been updated-see tesla spec sheet.
Great video!
Tesla PW3 does have PCS as well with their backup switch (BUS)
Yes they do Noted .. thanks for watching...
Have a Tesla power 3 that will be installed with our new solar. Integration to existing app like the Tesla app since already have a Tesla model Y as well as potential to participate in Tesla Energy VPP was why we went with the Powerwall 3.
That makes sense .. This is why I always say every customer has different priorities and circumstances .. no one size fits all ...
Power wall 3 is a great unit. Congratulations on your purchase!
what are your VPP earnings looking like?
Deserves more views. Very helpful and understandable for those startingbon this journey. Greetings from the uk
Really appreciate the complement lots hours work on this one! Cheers !
Hi Greg, I am debating between Franklin and Tesla Powerwall 3 for my 8.6kWh system. Based on your video and other research, I feel Franklin gives more flexibility and better warranty, compared to Tesla 3. What would be your recommendation?
I suggest having a local solarv company quote you both... and evaluate your needs .. both are great units but Powerwall 3 is for new solar you would need Powerwall 2 if going Tesla ..and yes FRanklkin better working with other brands inverters , ev chargers etc ...
I’m considering a number of proposals for a solar system on my house. This is exactly what I needed! Easy to understand comparison. I think enphase due to the modularity, make up (LFP- safer), and resiliency. A couple of emphases batteries with micro inverters costs a little more but there are no single points of failure. I wish emphases could stack on each other for maximizing space but oh well. I was looking at generac batteries due to DC coupled and modularity but I haven’t seen anything new from them in a while and I am concerned they will be exiting the market.
In my opinion Enphase is best option right now. Great instalerc and homeowner support. Best product. Generac Powercell I tried a few years ago lots of problems .. I don't know if it's changed but I'm not selling them. Thanks for watching!
I have a 4kw solar only with sunsun but I want to upgrade more panels and battery backup what would you recommend Tesla solar/1-2 batteries or sunrun? Family of 4 plus 1 EV coming this summer in CA.
I'm not familiar with batteries Sunrun uses ... but Tesla isa good choice,
Great presentation, Greg! Thanks for the in-depth information.
Thanks for watching ! I appreciate the compliment .
The Tesla Powerwall 3 does have load shedding capability.
Yes note ... but only communicates with Tesla products ... not with non-Tesla products
@@solarbygreengreg should be clarified in the video
Distilled knowledge, curated guidance. Thank you Greg.
Your welcome ! Thanks for watching.
Thank- you, this was soooo helpful in great layman terms.
Great! Glad you found helpful. Thanks for watching.
Great summary! Quite educational.
Great! Thanks for watching!
Great pre! Since you mentioned that if we buy Tesla Powerwall 3, we don't need to buy microinverter. Do you think this will result in decreasing of Enphase microinverter?
Do you mean having powerwall 3 have less electric production vs Enphase ?
If this what you mean … enphase will be better if have some solar panejs that may get shade certain times of day or certain months
Extremely detailed, exactly what I was looking for
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.
I'll take it you haven't looked ar the actual PW3 specs, because they list an LRA of 185A, not 150.
My video was prior to PW 3 release date … I used specs on Tesla website at that time … being a new product they may have updated and changed specs
Are these batteries only meant to be backup power or can these be use 24/7 off grid
Yes can run off grid
Are you saiying that I cannot use off the shelf solar panels for a new Powerwall 3 system?
You can use any solar panejs with powerwall 3
Thanks fir watching
"Ethernet" is the same as "Wired" isn't it?
yes
@@solarbygreengreg Why did you not circle that for Franklin then?
Hi Greg,
I am the Sales Director of Fortress Power, would you be interested in reviewing and testing our differentiated whole home energy solutions that have built in load shedding and EV charger integration?
Hey Alex, Let's talk .. please send e-mail Solarbygreengreg@gmail.com thanks
Hey Greg, I have to disagree with you. We have installed FranklinWH and Enphase and I find the Franklin to be superior.
Currently the cost for the first FranklinWH fully installed is $15,000.
Every subsequent FranklinWH is $10,000.
$25,000 gets you 2x FranklinWH at over 27kW of power = $0.95/W
The first Enphase 5p will cost you $9,000
The second will cost $6,000, maybe closer to $5,000, but lets stick with $6,000.
If you install 4x Enphase 5P batteries that will run you $27,000.
$27,000 for 20kW of power = $1.35/W.
That's a big gap in $/W.
The 5P allows for a person to run more off less battery size, but you do not have the storage reservoir to run large appliances like the AC for as long as the FranklinWH.
Both batteries are awesome and I have no qualm installing either, but when clients ask which is better I don't hesitate to say FranklinWH.
I mentioned in video Enphase is most expensive per KWh storage I was very clear on this in conclusion part of video …. I also mentioned that Franklin and Tesla likely lowest although pricing always changing since I published in December powerwall 3 pricing not available yet… Your pricing on Enphass is higher than market … most installers charging $13k for qty 2 enphase 5p. Which is min qty I recommend if they want to run anything big …
Thanks for watching
Nice comparison. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I disagree with wanting a smaller battery capacity. Why not get one large battery rather than having to go back and buy and install another battery? Plus the more power you have in reserve the better!
Well it’s nice when homeowners are willing to buy more capacity … but with each battery 13kwh over $10k+ with install buying another 13 kw is not in their budget or willing to pay to get a little more capacity …if someone needs 20 KWh is would be cheaper likely to get 4 enphase 5p vs getting 2 powerwalls etc 😊
It boils down to cost. Many times getting 2 smaller batteries while doubling the number of circuits that are powered is more affordable. Plus it takes less time to recharge a smaller battery. Most people don't need higher capacity. It all depends on what is essential for your property. See Bronco Power Boost.
You should rewatch the video and pay close attention to what he said about the advantages of the Enphase system. I looked at all of these and more ESS systems and I chose Enphase and it wasn’t really even close once you fully understand these systems. But most are looking for the cheapest route and are soon disappointed after they start seeing all the limitations and problems come up. This is not an area where you want to guess at. My 20kwh system was less than the Tesla system and a little bit more than the Franklin but far more superior in just about all respects. Hands down Enphase. I do it again.
@@gregm448it is usually not cheaper as Tesla has their backup switch which reduces installation cost substantially. Wall space needed for PW vs 5p isn’t even comparable. 5ps take up a ridiculous amount of space.
@@woohooivan As mentionee in conclusion Enphase will be more expensive in most cases except if doing 20kW battery vs 2 Powerwalls ... Yes Enphase takes up more wall space but with higher peak output many homes will need less battery capacity . As I said in video there is no one size fits all .. all depends on situation and budget of homeowner .
Here is an option that does not require solar, but can be added and is far more affordable. Bronco Power Boost.
Im a big Enphase fanboy -- and you outline many reasons in this video. It's about the resiliency, optionality, and peace of mind (warranty). Moreover, Enphase is an expanding platform incorporating generators, EVs and bi-directional charging, and ease of use considerations like load shedding. YMMV but I think Enphase is a great way to go
I agree. Thanks for watching.
any chance I could ask you a few questions related to your Enphase experience? Trying to understand battery incentives and VPPs. Thanks
We need a very big, ugly, heavy, safe, long lasting and inexpensive home batteries made of commonly available materials
. A 50 kWh battery for less than $10,000 would store enough solar power to run the average home throughout the year. I’m in California where I’m paying $0.41 per kWh off peak. In the late afternoon and early evening on “smart event days”, I’m paying several times that. And, the prices we pay will only go up and up in the near future. The Chinese are selling whole cars with four times the energy storage of pitifully small and weak Powerwalls. Someone, please make us a big, ugly, heavy, safe and inexpensive battery! You will get rich and you will disrupt the entire electricity industry
I agree … lower cost would motivate more homeowners to buy batteries … I too would buy ugly if lower cost. 😀 thanks for watching!
sorry ill pass on 2X the cost of Tesla to go with Enphase
That's why I discussed all 4 options .. everyone has a different budget or different features they want .... Tesla Powewrwall 3 is a good value if looking at price only ...
THanks for watching.
Stop it 🤣😂😂😅😅😂😂🤣😂 please stop. "Smaller capacity is better"
This is an enphase commercial not a real comparison.😏
Pleaee listen I did not say smaller is better … simply that having smaller building blocks is more scalable you can right size the system better … for example if you want 20kWH of capacity with other options you would have to buy 2x 13.5kwh = 27 kWh. Vs enphase you can. Get 4@ 5kWH = 20 kWh
This is not commercial for enphase as I said several times in video there is no one size / one brand for everyone … there are certain reasons why someone may get other brands … and this is why I’m listing comparisons for each option and same in conclusion … really I think all this brands are a good option .. just depends on features , budget , and job site conditions ie kWh usage , net metering etc
Thanks for watching
@solarbygreengreg don't worry I got you 1:59
Let's be honest. When someone switches to solar energy, having the ability to store that energy with a larger battery is always a good bet.
Unfortunately, none of these options offer a good return on investment (ROI) in my opinion because they are way too expensive and Enphase is the worst of them.
Not to toot my own horn or anything, but how did you avoid talking about service for all of these manufacturers? Have you tried calling enphase/tesla service lines? Enjoy your 30-60+ minute wait to speak to someone. FranklinWH's average wait time for service is less than 2 minutes (all of 2024 so far, I can share the data with you). I also agree with EVERYTHING said by @texasie8015. There's some other inaccuracies on the FranklinWH product as well. I'll let some of my colleagues chime in here.
Just a few inaccuracies to clarify from FranklinWH side.
- Franklin does have PCS controls
- Franklin can be wall mounted and is the preferred method of install
I educate homeowners without click bait or sales talk. No bias towards one particular brand .... depending on the home, net metering, kWh usage, budget, etc The best option is different for different homeowners.
You can't say Tesla/Enphase ... these are different independent companies that are not affiliated. My video is about comparing the specs and features ...
However, I have contacted Enphase and they have been excellent ... Sometimes you can get quicker service if you use the Chat support so try that if long telephone wait .. or you can use the call back feature ... Only have had a few problems with Enphase ie a failed micro inverter and they have been quick to replace ..about 1 week ...
Tesla I heard from homeowners about non-responsive service from Tesla ... so I suggest getting Powerwalls through a local solar company instead of Tesla direct.
Franklin is a good company as well which is why I included then in this video comparision ...
Thanks for watching.
After I did the video it seams other companies added PCS ... Noted that Franlklin can be wall mount .. however it's 400lbs this is HEAVY for a wall mount... Ok if have masonary wall .. but not something I would mount to drywall that is in most garages.. Thanks
Are these batteries only meant to be backup power or can these be use 24/7 off grid
You can use these off grid but mainly designed for a modern home … but there maybe Better ones for off grid … off grid is usually a lot lower electric use … for example a small cabin Not using hvac would be lot lower electric use … could use a smaller battery and inverter
@@solarbygreengreg thanks a piece of land I was looking at buying electricity is kinda far and curious because this maybe a cheaper option and I would want this even if I had power from the grid
@@truebengalsfan thanks for watching!