How The Rich Are Destroying The Music Industry.
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2023
- Why is no one stopping this?! Live Nation and Ticketmaster currently have a hold on the live music industry right now. Today I'm looking at one of the hearings investigating Live Nation & Ticketmaster after the huge backlash they faced when the Taylor Swift tickets went on sale last year and it all went awry. It's becoming increasingly impossible for new artists to tour and incredibly expensive for music fans to attend. What's next?
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What do you think SHOULD happen?
A competitor who sells tickets for lower prices than Ticketmaster and who won’t give in to being bought over by them. The existence of a competitor would all but force Ticketmaster to lower their prices. The problem is, who would say no to a multi million dollar/pound/euro merger contract?
Ticketbastard needs to be disbanded, so they can all become homeless and starving, like us regular plebs. Unlike us, they've earned that.
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They should have vegetables stuffed into their underpants. And then boiled.
Would artists who could fill the largest of venues consider going on a LiveNation/Ticketmaster strike? The biggest names have to put up a fight, and then fund that fight to eliminate the middleman.
Unless hundreds of the ultra top tier artists say they won't play live nation/ticketmaster venues then nothing will happen.
They're owned by their labels, and the labels are sharholders of LN/TM, why would they change anything when they're making enormous profits? It's a much larger issue at the systemic level causing this and many other problems for us regular folk. End capitalism and the oligarchy if you want life to get better
They'd also be turning down 90% of major venues
@@Chessticular_Chancer I'd be fine with that!
Too many "top" musicians are all about the money.
Too many 'artists' think its their right to not only be able to do most peoples dream job, but also to be ridiculously rich from doing it. Look how they all reacted to downloads when they first came out. Playing live is the only other way they have to do that pretty much now so no way will they do anything against that.
Getting old isn't the only reason I've barely been to any gigs over the last 10 years.
If youre my age I'm smacking you
I'm 33
@@creamwobbly old of age
@@Manni31 Listening to these old farts rationalize their reasons for being shut ins who need to get to bed early, is kind of amusing. It's not ticket prices. They're just old and easily put out. It's like people who say the inconveniences are why they don't fly. In reality, they probably have nowhere to go, and turned into an act of protest.
I get it. I'm 67 and shows are always running too late. Not counting the ridiculous prices now. Why the hell would anyone pay $400 plus for a nosebleed seat? Don't they have a decent Blueray player at home? It's what we do now.
@@jeremythornton433 It makes sense. The older you get, the tougher it is to get out to start with. There are far too many shows that I've been to, especially as of late, doors at 7 but the show won't even start until nearly 9 PM, and theres an opener. Seen more than enough of that. It doesn't hurt anyone but the headliner and the audience to have the main act on stage at freaking 10:15 PM with an end time of 12-12:30 in the morning. Thats insanity. As a musician myself, Idk how these legacy acts and bigger artists can stand the disorganization and the poor planning that is so very very present in the music booking world today.
I haven't been to an arena show in over 10 years. Once a band I like graduates from $30 club shows or $80 theater shows to arena-sized shows I wave goodbye and assume I'll never see them live again. I can't afford two $400 tickets for decent seats and I won't spend $100 for nose-bleed seats just to sit and watch a Jumbotron.
Here in Philadelphia, our problem with Live Nation is that they even own the smaller clubs and the ones they don't own, they harass the fuck out of them. They do dirty tricks like calling License & Inspection on them, call health services claiming the clubs are over run with pests. They find any way they can to get a competitor shut down. They are the sole reason that I don't attend big shows. I go to local, smaller ones for lower door charges and a way better time. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
as someone in the philly area what smaller shows are you talking about?
@@someshittomakeyouhappy exactly 👀
Just got back from this gig... the darkness played so hard they set the stage on fire and an evacuation happened.. amazing performance thanks guys I'll never forget it ❤️
Lucky you!! Glad you enjoyed it. Saw some pics and videos and it looked EPIC! I’m in Baltimore wishing I could have made it to the Glasgow show… Didn’t work out. Waiting to they come to this side of the pond.
I so wanted to just drop everything and fly to the UK for a show!!! I need a travel partner. Who wants to meet up and go to shows with me? Hope the Darkness comes stateside.
Loved it, followed by shuffling as slowly as possible toward the exit waiting for the all clear to get back in front double-time! Justin's solo/trip on that guy's shoulders was incredible 😂
Glad you had a good night and thank you for the entertaining comment.
I remember Pearl Jam tried to do a tour without Ticketmaster, they were booked at some crazy venues, like ribfests and shit. I don't think it even happened, Ticketmaster did their thing to make sure it wouldn't. Ticketmaster is a blight.
Most of the gigs were cancelled, i think. It cost Pearl Jam millions
Certain venues are exclusive with Ticketmaster, should the venue disobey that agreement they'll lose all business from Ticketmaster entirely.
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@@Metal-Possumabsolute mafia shit
I read that Pearl Jam wanted to do a concert for free for 30,000 fans and ticket master wanted to charge a 1 dollar service charge. Pearl Jam weren't happy about this and accused ticket master of " wielding a concert-ticket monopoly". The're is a clip of the lead singer of Pearl Jam at an award ceremony talking about the fact hes been seated next to the folks from Ticketmaster.
Not only have Ticketmaster been tacking on an admin fee and a handling fee, they have now started gouging gig goers with a 'venue fee' - when you look into this it states that this a fee to contribute to the upkeep of the venue. I call that a complete scam and it shouldn't be down to the ticket buyer to pay for that. The add-ons to tickets are completely out of control at the moment and needs looking at too.
All patrons are on their best behaviour and the venue is pristine at all times. I worked at one replacing smashed toilets and stall doors in the ‘WOMENS’ bathroom!! So you’re paying for the morons that can’t control their liquor and take it out on the venue.
Hey man.
You're kind of a saint actually bringing these issues out in a comprehensive form.
As you said, monopolies are bad. The whole thing is upside down right now. The venues and the ticketing companies should be thankful to be involved with artists that we want to see live. And if Live Nation & TMaster control / own venue, promotion, ticketing and resale - then why in the hell is there still a service fee, processing fee, delivery fee, resale fee, facility fee, etc.
Justin, we went to the show last night in Cardiff, and you were amazeballs! Keep up the good work👍
The towel thing is in deed mad.
I used to work for a local promoter. Bands' riders would regularly include orders for something like 100 towels. Like, four per each band and crew member. Often more.
Of course you do not buy 100 towels for one night. There actually are laundry agencies that you rent towels from. So you rent these 100 something towels.
EVERY show. EVERY show dozens of towels go missing. The drummer and the singer "generously" threw theirs to the fans. Some were taken on the bus by mistake. Some got lost somewhere in the venue. Or whatever.
Now of course, the agency wants their towels back. But they don't get 100 back, they get back, say, 60. For each missing one, you pay a fee. The type of fee that is supposed to deter you from not giving back every towel next time. Let's say the fee is 25 EUR per missing towel. You have 40 missing towels, you pay 1000 EUR. Often you might just as well have bought and all the towels in the first place and given them to the band. But then is it not also an environmental thing? You don't just dispose of a towel. Do you know how much water it takes to produce a cotton towel? You wash and reuse them.
Imagine you have a show a day with towel costs of 1000 a day. In a year you have accumulated 350.000 EUR. For TOWELS.
As a local promoter, you are considered the tiniest cog in the machine. You have no say. How we TRIED to raise sensibilities for towels with the touring agencies and the artists contacts over months. PLEASE, is it so hard, can you just take care of the towels better? They don't grow on trees. But towels are considered dispensible, worthless items to people on tour. There's an endless supply. What do you mean someone rented them? Do they not just appear, out of thin air?
We were never able to get bands to cut down on their incredible wastefulness of towels. Back then it was always us as local promoters footing the bill. No tour manager or agent accepted the towel costs when it came to accounting.
Nowadays, though the local promoter is also Ticketmaster. They are no longer the weakest link to pick up the bill so these costs go back to the artists. If you do take your own towels, Justin, that's good on you. Then you take care of them better. You know they have a price and even if one is only a few quid - dozens, every night, every show, quickly make up an idiotically costly expense that is really completely avoidable.
Oh, NOW I understand why I got screamed at for touching a towel backstage at a Godfathers show in the 80s!
Goddamn, I never knew there was so much to learn about towel economics. Arthur Dent, eat your heart out.
The word towel has now lost all meaning in my head after reading that
Charging 25 bucks per missing towel is a VERY Ticketmaster thing to do
Justin has the right idea, drip dry.
This has been going on for over ten years. During all that time, I refused to buy a ticket from those greedy bastards.
The insane ticket prices that have become standard over the last decade or two is precisely why I don't go to shows anymore.
seems to me as time marches on that most of these large 'corporations' are slowly bleeding us to death for everything...I mean the reality is the price of most things we want and need just keeps going up and up and up...it has gotten out of hand.
Ticket prices are becoming beyond reach for the working man
Couldn’t see Paul McCartney or the upcoming Stevie Nicks show. Lowest price started in the $400 range.
didn't expect you to make time for videos while on tour. i have to live vicariously through you, i need you busy making outrageous backstage demands!.
seriously though i have gone to i think one concert in the entire 2000s and that was like 12 years ago when my girlfriend at the time got some tickets to see a band i loved 25 years ago. and it is weird because when i was a teen in the 80s going to shows was my favorite thing in the world. now paying and going to a show sounds like the most out putting effort ever.
It's a scary topic to me bc the dependency problem won't stop at entertainment. For instance: Red Bull and Aldi are about to buy Germany's groundwater.
I miss the Cellar Door days.
My first major concert was Iron Maiden w/ Cinderella and the tickets cost $17. Over the years prices went up to $35 to $50 for a big show with a big name headliner. Once Live Nation started taking over venues and began monopolizing ticket prices shot up to over $100 for a good show. Now you can't find a ticket for a big name concert for less than $175. TM and LN are a monopoly and need to be regulated and broken up.
Cellar Door. Those were the days.
@@youreadyfreddie I knew I wasn't the only old timer here.
I get that prices have to go up and I'd pay it but the fact is that none of that money is going to the artist.
Bands used to Tour to generate record sales - that's where most of money came from (apart from the mega-artists). Now bands get so little money from "song listens" that they need make money by touring, so the price has gone way up. Of course, others cash in on that and you find there are a new group of "hangers on" looking to make as much as they can from someone elses' creativity.
@@fallenshallrise Actually that's about the only way they make money. You'll see a lot of the big touring bands play old, smaller venues around the country because they aren't owned by TM and the pay split is better.
What Ticketmaster have been getting away with is frankly disgusting, charging exorbitant ticket prices like that, particularly for more popular artists. If even one competitor sold tickets cheaper than TM prices that would solve the issue, but they all just get bought over. Ticketmaster have monopolised the industry
Also, really looking forward to seeing The Darkness tomorrow night in Glasgow, can’t wait. The last time I saw you was 8 years ago! That was my first concert too
Bottom line is for popular artists there are going to be scalpers buying up huge blocks of tickets and charging 100x. THAT is what they need to stop. Something like a blockchain validation or something
@@creamwobbly Did you just compare a live show to watching it on your phone? Now, that's peak modern laziness. Nothing is like a live show and feeling the music up front pushing the air.
That's capitalism for ya, we get what we deserve. Look at how outraged ppl are over ticket prices when 2/3 ppl are struggling to feed themselves due to the rising cost in groceries. We choose to use our collective outrage to do something about concert tickets prices but when it comes to our neighbors starving we don't do anything. Our civilization is not worth saving.
@@itheuserfirst3186 100% agree....
100% agree!
I've stopped going to see major artists for this exact reason. For a fraction of the price you can see smaller and/or cover bands plus you get the convenience of them being local and in smaller venues so you get a better experience.
Love ur channel and Thxs for the videos and riding again Justin
From Prescott AZ
It's pushed me, rather sadly, away from ever going to live concerts again. Tried for gigs over the past couple years but the prices exploding in the way they have is obscene. I do not understand how they have been allowed to have such a monopoly over this business. This is just what happens.
They'll argue again over it being to protect people from scalpers over bots hoovering up tickets but it ends up being them scalping the common punter. Disgraceful.
What I love, is how they still rip you off charging you something like 10 bucks to print your ticket out or sending it to your phone. Once upon a time this would be the charge of sending the ticket out by snail mail.
I can literally buy a table on amazon and have it shipped to me for free - but ticketmaster can't send me a piece of paper for less than $10. And $0 of that $10 go to the artist.
@@fallenshallrise the accc need to look into them
Ticketing is not that simple. I agree the costs are bit much, but unless you’ve worked in the industry, you have no idea.
@@bigalbass Explain why the cost hasn't changed to actually receive your ticket. That's my query, everything else fine, I know there are people to need to get paid.
nothing ll change. artists got screwed on royalties and found out they could only earn the big bucks touring. now this end is getting squeezed too. starting to see more bands touring outside uk on a festival circuit rather than running a whole tour.
you ve been very complimentary about matty healy lately. he s off tour next week. have a chat with him about their last US tour. 24 arena dates across US with a dedicated stage & crew of 100. love to know if they made it work.
How many touring Rockstars would take time out for his fans on YT? Appreciate you Justin!!
It is illegal in the US to be a monopoly. However, with enough money, any law in the US is more of a suggestion. Buy a politician and get it sorted. And its spreading to the resr of the world
$45000 to see Taylor Swift? Man, they'd have to pay me a heck of a lot more to go and see her.
@@edd2771 Gotcha 😉
I'd go and see her for less than that. Anyone interested please advise details of ticket and proposed fee, and we'll go from there.
For £45K, she’d better be making me toast in the morning.
I expect them to take me to a restaurant first, because I like to be wined and dined before I get fucked.
For a fuckin year....
Monopolies are illegal in the USA. When the fans who listen to the music and faithfully follow an artist can't afford the concert tickets puts the artist in a bad light. It's not the artist fault.
They clearly arnt though
I think the ultimate lesson is that monopolies are unhealthy, whether it be Ticketmaster, Amazon, or anyone else. A multitude of providers means customers (which includes bands, promoters, and venues themselves) can shop around. More pie for everyone.
I used to go to - and perform at - a LOT of gigs during the 90s, 00s and early 10s. I became so fed up of seeing a sea of phone screens filming the performance that I walked out of a gig in 2010 and said "I am not doing this anymore". I haven't even been tempted since making the decision, and with how it sounds now I am so glad I am not desperate to see anyone play live.
Country artist Zach Bryan released his latest album on Christmas day. It is titled "All My Homies Hate Ticketmaster." He has said that he will not work with Ticketmaster. Also, he mentioned certain artists (without calling any names) who claim to be "all about the working man" and allow the working man to have to pay $5000 to see their show. Zach Bryan is a bit of a rebel. But at least he's standing up to them.
I havent even watched the episode here yet, I just wanted you to know I adore you and you bring a smile to my face, thank you!!!
Even before TM was a part of live nation, they were notorious for their excessive fees added on to ticket prices, like the one time I bought a ticket to see the Romantics and the fees were higher than the ticket price. Nobody stopped them then, nobody is stopping LN now. Also, iHeartRadio has a virtual monopoly of U.S. radio stations, yet, at one point was 20 BILLION in debt, filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy, but somehow retains their stranglehold on radio while also gobbling up vast sections of the podcast market. Both LN and iHeart need to be broken up, but that will only happen with legislative intervention, so don't hold your breath.
kudos on using excerpts from majority report with sam seder...i watch their show quite often and appreciate their commentary and perspective...cheers!
major props to any artists involved in this. a lot of musicians couldn't be arsed, the well off ones of course, they don't really care about the prices truly. the little guys always do the fighting.
The well off ones have been fighting them for a few decades, with no support from fans.
The speaker in the video is from the band Lawrence which consists of himself, his sister and and a band. The sister has one of the best voices around atm should definitely check them out. Love the videos x
Thanks for highlighting this important issue. You also mentioned you’d never heard of Clyde Lawrence. I’d highly recommend checking out the band he fronts with his sister Gracie, surprisingly called “Lawrence”. Starting off with “Don’t Lose Sight” is a winning strategy. Maybe you could do an episode reacting to this tune. Take care, always enjoy your videos.
Saw you last night in Cardiff, was a great show!
Why are people paying so much for tickets in the first place?
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Cool to see Clyde on here. Consider checking out Lawrence some time. They are so much more than just a “pop” band.
Yes. This. 'pop musician - Clyde Lawrence' just read as so so wrong to me!!
My god Justin you look awesome rocking a Tigres T-shirt! Which is a Mexico Soccer Club (Monterrey, Mexico) and also my favorite team!! And about Ticketmaster, they are the new mob in disguise.
Sadly, my days of going to 50+ gigs a year, plus a few festivals are long gone. Ridiculous considering I am in a far better position, financially, now - but have to pick and choose the gigs carefully these days.
In the long run, it is the artists that are losing out and the only logical conclusion is as you alluded to at the end of the video - AI for everything.
Fortunately, I have 40+ years of live performances to look back on and fondly remember - started with Zeppelin at Knebworth in '79 and been hooked on live music ever since!
I’m old enough to remember being able to go to a venue to buy the tickets from the box office. Even though that has long gone, the handling fees are not only unacceptable, but extortionate.
I saw the Darkness in Cardiff yesterday. If you haven’t been yet, go and watch them. They are brilliant
Dynamic Pricing = Greed, plain and simple.
With many major artists (eg Swift) using auto-tune in the studio and live these days another important question is whether live really is a worthwhile endeavour for fans at any ticket price.
Exactly, i could sit at home listening to auto-tuned crap and not have to spend a thing.
Yeah going to see an artist who uses playback + autotune doesn't make any sense to me
You should make videos about these bands:
Wolf Alice
Starcrawler
Ningen isu
Turnstile
T. Rex
The Kinks
Catfish and the bottlemen
Wolf Alice are SO GOOD!!
@@juliabobin446 yes!! I would love to see Justin react to a song like Yuk Foo by them
Wahay, you've got a Majority Report fan on your team. Good stuff.
The mystery of the backstage scene . It would be great to tell us what goes on.
Thanks again Justin GL with the tour ❤️
Excellent video, Justin. It is the unknown side of seeing a band on tour, for everything the band has to go through, and in reliance on the management to get the best deal, rather than just have a venue to land in.
dude you need to make an episode on Lawrence, great band (the guy testifying is one of the Lawrence siblings)
Great night in Liverpool, Justin! Loved the pyrotechnics...proper rock n roll.
That sounds like mafia math. Add a bunch of nonessential fees to screw up the profits of an entertainer.
Justin graciously offering booking services? Sir I will gladly take you up on that offer, can't wait to start the tour :)
Thank you for a Freaking Awesome show in Cardiff! Loved every single second of it! May I ask, who comes up with the ideas for the pyrotechnics?
Does the band have to learn when they’ll be set off or is it instinctual when they are choreographed to the music? Do they ever surprise you or cause mishaps? PS 10/10 for your spectacular headstand dismount, ‘twas impressive! 😁🥰
You have to learn and rehearse with them extensively, and just avoid certain parts of the stage altogether, although I believe posh bands can get expensive types that wont potentially kill you. I remember even Metallica had an incident with theirs, i think it was james hetfield got badly burnt by them.
Thanks Nin!
Quick question Justin. Are you at all aware of your ticket prices? I have no idea if you would know. I'm just asking. Do your shows end up having dynamic pricing? Love your show and your music by the way!
Ticketmaster sucks.
I know this is small potatoes compared to the Taylor Swift situation, but back in the early fall 2022 I bought advanced tickets for Mercyful Fate's show in Montreal on Nov 11th.
I logged into my Ticketmaster account the day tickets went on sale and panicked when I saw only about 20% of the seats were available for purchase! Thinking they were selling out fast, I grabbed the best seats I could (they were good) for $250 EACH. For Mercyful Fate. Now I love Mercyful Fate, but I thought $250 was a bit steep, but the seats were good and I thought I had done well for myself and friends, thinking the seats were selling out fast.
We get to the show and discover people on either side of us paid $110 EACH for theirs several weeks (not months as in my case) before the show!
I went to the tickets desk and asked WTF was up with that and they said they were "platinum" seats only made available early. I asked "So I paid over double for the privilege of having seats early?" and they said "yes".
F*ck them.
Yes man, for other case happened in Mexico with Bad Bunny, the Ticketsmaster sold cloned Tickets, and i was big problem and the staff Ticketsmaster they sold only one
A few years back a mate of mine took his 2 kids to see Muse at Birmingham...tickets had pretty much sold out...certainly not acailable...so he paid about £500 for 3 tickets through StubHub. He asked if I was going to go...( I played bass in a Muse tribute at the time) I politely declined the ridiculous cost. Gig was on a Tuesday. The Monday before the gig I was playing 5 aside with another mate who is a huuuuge Muse fan ...he said...coming to see Muse tomorrow night? Not at those prices I said ..oh he said they have just released a ton of tickets at £25 each..couldn't sell out..I bought 4 if you want to go? If That's the kind of shit going in here I want no.part...my mate with the kids..well and truly ripped off...
That's like airline tickets. I once got my ticket 6 weeks ahead and paid like $220. The lady next to me paid like $465.
Yeah, this sucks. I have 2 tickets for Kiss later this year. Tickets £150 x 2 Facility Charge: £2.75
Service Charge: £18.75 x2
Then a handling fee of £2.75
It is a rip off, there is no way it costs the company that much to process a ticket. Crazy.
A friend of mine when a to a show a few years ago where the service fees actually doubled the cost. They were the cost of the tickets themselves. It's insane.
Piss take mate. Humans just ripping each other off as usual.
Hell yeah nice shout out to the Majority Report!
One for comments day - I saw Sports Team (a fantastic band, who you should definitely check out if you’re not already familiar) when they were supported by the brilliantly named Wet Leg. Wet Leg subsequently shot forth, achieving a number one album and Brit awards to boot. My question is, have you ever supported anyone and then gone on to exceed them reputationally/commercially? And conversely, have any bands/artists supported you, but gone on to somewhat overtake your commercial successes? Huge fan of the channel and all you do, keep up the good work
I was on TM tonight and searched Glasgow my local place for gigs. The tickets are priced so high I almost don't want to go to another gig again. I happily go to gigs if I know it will be an amazing show like Muse but once a ticket is at £60 a ticket I can't justify it. Some seats can even be £150-£300 just to be slightly closer and it's sickening to see.
Saw The Darkness support The Hollywood Vampires a few years ago. Reasonably priced and an amazing show.
The utterly ridiculous price of tickets has pretty much finished big concerts for me………can’t justify £150+ for a seat behind someone wearing a hat, sat behind a pillar anymore.
The problem is that the music industry is no longer full of people who love music. It's full of people who love money....and only money. Maybe power.....mostly money.
Doubt people in the industry have ever been in it for the music. It's called an 'industry' for a reason. I doubt Tom Parker was in it because he lived Elvis's singing, he loved the cash that flowed. Always has been, always will be.
Con la de Tigres, nice touch.
Always interesting to hear your thoughts on a subject like this as you've had the experience and you're right, only legislation can alter the situation. Also I'm in need of a booking agent 😎🤘
Amazing video, Lawrence (the band) themselves are also supremely talented, you should check out/react to Don't Lose Sight (Acoustic), the song is about not letting all the *Business* side of music distract you from doing what you love. (atleast thats my interpretation)
Somehow, someway, entities like Live Nation/ Ticketmaster are going to find a way to extort money-from either artists or show-goers. If artists sold the tickets directly, they’ll up the cost of the venue, so artists have to charge more. If cheaper venues open, they’ll depend on the support from all artists to stop using LN/T…and it won’t happen…especially if artists can’t even make a serious CZcams video about it.
They used to call Liverpool "the other Capital of Wales". Then again, it was other capital of Ireland, Scotland, etc. Ticketmaster is like the La Cosa Nostra meets Old man Potter from It's a Wonderful Life.
Back when radio was#1,they had something called payola.If you wanted to get your music played and promoted you paid the DJ and the radio station reps.This is like that on steroids.😣
I am a wee bit leery of big stadium shows. I am 5 feet tall, & was nearly crushed at a Boomtown Rats concert. Great concert, though, in spite of it. BTW, I've watched a lot of your videos on CZcams, your channel & performances. Just recently listened to Love On The Rocks downloaded from itunes through headphones- your vocals are gorgeous!! I kinda wish they were mixed a tad more forward in the mix, only to appreciate them more.
Justin - take a listen to Lawrence's music. They're a great mix of R&B and pop - lots of incredible musicianship and writing, especially with his sister's voice.
Here in the states ticket Master live Nation don't allow one to go right to the venue and get tickets there to bypass them
Hehe, im from Nottingham. Much love for giving a shout out to Rock City! 🤘🏻
I noticed the last 15 years or so the secondary ticket market is even worse where any of the good seats to a show are already gone by the time the tickets go on sale unless you are a member of the bands fan club probably for some extra monthly fee or expense. Whole sections will be sold out ahead of time. My 1st rock concert was AC/DC in 2000 standing in line at GI Joes at 8am in the morning waiting for them to open up. The floor and 100 levels sold out within 15 minutes while I was still in line. I felt lucky to even get 4 tickets in the 300 level. Went had an awesome time and life experience. Been to about 100 concerts since then, but still that seemed more fair than how the system is setup today.
It's the early 90's all over again when Pearl Jam tried to fight Ticketmaster.
One thing that was a little crappy was I couldn't get an e-ticket to see you guys this week. Not sure if I was being an idiot, or just scalped got fees
Either way - looking forward to seeing you guys!
If you don't know Clyde you should check out the video for Lawrence - Don't Lose Sight (Acoustic)
Justin please come to Baltimore. The Darkness is loved here, as are The Struts who were just here in August if I am not mistaken. ❤❤
Yes thats it everyone gets crushed fans and artists alike. Problem is that no-one walks away from the deal because they are already invested in it , artists need the source of revenue and fans want to see live performance. Many businesses function in this ruthless manner... the only way to escape is to do things differently or find a replacement. I can think of many businesses that take their technology and product and hold it over the consumer and creator in an unfair manner eg itunes, apple, annual subscribtions for almost all software, car dealers and their overbloated quote and part system - all these businesses continually try to milk the consumer for the max revenue and in some cases they do - in other cases they won't because their customer just walks away never to return.
Lawrence are actually pretty good. Brother and Sister duo. He's got a Randy Newman piano and voice kind of vibe and she has a pretty incredible voice. Check out there song Don't Lose Sight (Acoustic). Nothing ground breaking, but a good hook and great performance. Might be worth a reaction to give 'em some support.
I hate ticketmaster. They charge $15-$20 over ticket cover price for bullshit fees. It puts prices out of reach for a lot of people.
There was a very special venue in Connecticut, formerly with two locations. One in Hartford, that I’ve never attended, an a beautiful
old 300 seat historical music hall built in 1883, in the lovely rural town of Norfolk. That venue I’ve been to many times, but I just learned that location changed hands and won’t be doing music any longer. That fact kind of shook me up, but the point I was trying to get to is that a small, beautiful (with great acoustics I might add) is wonderful place to see up and coming new acts, middle tier acts that aren’t at stadium level (thank God) and BEST of all, “Legend” acts such as the Zombies and the Strawbs, both of which made me feel like I was witnessing Rock History! All this and a reasonable ticket price too, plus the opportunity to have dinner before the show. I would name the venue but I’m not sure of the CZcams policy on that…
Sorry for the lengthy comment, I was just stunned to find out Norfolk had closed. Cheers.
I'm just happy that most bands I go see are about 20 quid a ticket lol
Nothing will happen until people stop buying tickets.
Or at the very least, people need to stop being so eager to buy tickets, lol...
You are Smashy and Nicey all in one human...
The biggest stars need to say no to their tens of millions of dollars per tour and stand up for all those who can't fight against this crap. It's business, but as usual, the "business" does everything to crush the worker. Organize!!
Seeing you guys and BSC tonight! 5th time seeing Black Stone cherry, but first time seeing the Darkness. VERY VERY excited!
What did you pay for the tickets to see The Darkness?
£46.05 for The Darkness, Black Stone Cherry and Danko Jones
It's absolutely infuriating.
I played a hockey game in pogipskie back in 84. Still have my third star of the game patch at home.
One of the reasons I support small local venues. They sell their own tickets on their website and box office. Unfortunately when big acts come near me I have to bow down to them. Ticketmaster sucks.
It's about 12 years since i went to a big venue gig. The cost has gotten ridiculous and i got sick of being extorted. I'd rather just not go than allow myself to be fleeced.
Justin, you need to check out Clyde Lawrence’s band, “Lawrence.” You would like them. I recommend their Jam in the Van set.
Why? Because bribing members of Congress is legal and members of Congress doing insider trading is practically legal too.
It’s a US Senate committee hearing. It’s eye candy for the masses and a “Senator” getting on TV. But nothing happens. I’ll still see my favorite bands, but it is a monopoly and unfair to the artist. AI can suck it!
Even sporting event tickets can only be purchased through TicketMaster in the US. And the fees are insane with those, too.
Wait til you find out who owns the merch company that makes all those shirts and other expensive stuff bands sell at the shows, and how much of a cut they get. Oh and those Amex pre-sales, guess who gets all that money too. Oh and those VIP packages too!
All the places named after Worcester is in Massachusets, Providence in Rhode Island, Poughkeepsie halfway between NYC and Albany. All of the cities mentioned are very near where I grew up (within 4 hours drive).
I swore off ticket master years ago- which means I stopped going to live performances. Sucks, but I refuse to pay those kinds of prices. And not only was the price ridiculous, but the venues were also. I love Tool, I went to all their live shows until finally TM started charging like 75 bucks for a ticket, you would then get to the venue only to find they stopped serving alcohol at like 7 PM or something and no smoking was allowed. And I don't mean like there's a no smoking sign- no, I mean cops are literally patrolling the arena and if they catch you- depending on what you're smoking you either get thrown out or possibly taken to jail. I got thrown out and almost taken to jail- apparently weed is still highly illegal in Arkansas. But eventually they settled for me getting out and leaving town- which I did with glee- wadda shit hole. It was without a doubt the most expensive and worst concert I've ever been to.
And since it was like the 3rd show in a row that costed way too much and then was a disappointment- I just stopped going. When I was younger concerts were fucking awesome- for around 20 bucks you would have the time of your life and see all kinds of debauchery and immorality in all its wonderous glory- and if you played your cards right, you might even get laid. Now you pay 3-4 times as much to sit quietly, and it better be in the seat you paid for- otherwise they'll throw you out or arrest you, or both. Fuck that- I'm out.
The people have the power, including the bands. Everyone just stops participating. Put your own shows on in your own communities for a while. If no bands/artists play and no one buys tickets, then things have to change. This tends to work in most capitalist markets. Things only have value when we show up. Love and power to you all!