6 7L POWERSTROKE Diesel Fluid in the Fuel
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2015
- It is a common mistake to put DEF into the fuel nozzle. This can be catastrophic to the fuel injection system of the vehicle. this video outlines what has to be done to straighten the truck out if this happens.
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Great information! Also, your comment that if the dealer becomes aware that you added DEF to your fuel tank, Ford may void the warranty, makes sense and is definately something to consider when looking to have the system flushed.
I am a new owner of a 2017 F350 6.7 Platinum, my first truck and diesel motor. I enjoy learning more about the ins and outs of truck ownership and the 6.7s in particular.
Well done!!!
Barry
Thank you so much Bill my uncle put def in his fuel tank and I was able to remove the tank and flush the system and when I filled it back up it ran perfect. Thank you again for putting this information online for free so we can fix some issues on our own.
You guys are great, I would take my truck there anyday! Keep it up guys, love the videos.
I almost threw up when I dumped 3 gallons into my fuel tank two weeks ago. I had to start it for just about 5 seconds so I could put it in neutral and start it down hill to roll in front of my work shop. Well I dropped the full tank of fuel ( ouch $120 worth) and drained it. Washed it out with garden hose real good. The pickup pump and lines and fuel filter on the tank. Installed it and added 3 gal of power service and a gallon of Power service 911. Mixed with 5 gal of fresh fuel. Drove it for a while then added 5 more gallons. Drove it 230 miles then added a full tank. Kept adding Power Service 1 gal per full fuel tank. Drove it another 300 miles then changed both fuel filters. Cut them open and let them dry for a few days. Not one spec of crystal any where on any of either filter. I guess I lucked out.
On a side note I did it twice before on my 2011 6.7. That was at 45k miles..Only a qt or so. Just drained the first filter every few miles then changed the filters out while adding lot's of power service for a while. Traded it in at 165k and still running smooth. No issues there.
On a side note. Why didn't I just call Ford to come and tow it while it was just in the tank and I hadn't started it at all? Had too many important things to be done the next day and 1 week after and another 1 week after and another 1 week after. I went for it. At that point I didn't care what happed to the truck. Either it was going to run and do that all or frig it.
I now have a locking gas cap that should help.
Hey Bill really enjoy watching your videos... I love my 2005 f250 6.0 diesel!!! Thanks Man!!!
Nice looking E-ring on that tank! Blow-molding tanks and cooling fixtures is the bomb.
is it bad that I enjoy watching these videos and I don't even own a powerstroke truck..?
+Tommy Santos
Yo Tommy , I happen to enjoy watching common sense no B.S. videos too.
+Ron Spins : RIght. I'm a Cummins guy, but always enjoy seeing what's going on, on the "other side of the fence". (It also verifies I'm still on the right team too...) - The Dodges (or RAM's as they are now called) may not be the best, but they still have the best engines. I prefer to have a truck that works, without all the constant downtime and problems. I also still run 5.9L Cummins trucks. No need for the bigger 6.7L's, just no need.
Joe Smith
Exactly Joe... That was kinda my whole point. LOL I'll keep my '02 Cummins 5.9L 24V H.O. as long as I can. Over 317K and counting... still never any major issues.
No worries man! I love this channel and I don't even have a truck. Heck, I don't even live in USA.
i dont think so ..never owned or thought about buying a diesel anything im chevy all day but i love the ford body style and this guy makes em look even better
Excellent info I own a 2011 lariat F-350 670 just to be safe. I bought a Locking gas cap !!!!! Thanks for your videos
Keep the videos coming bill I learn a lot from them I'm a huge fan
I run Cummins and still watch your vids since there is good universal information. Thank you for sharing!!
Hey. I can’t believe it. I put DEF in my fuel tank. Have a lot going in and was rushing to clean the garage and just FN out it in. I follies you’re video and got her done.
Just wanted to say thanks for recommending arch oil it was 29 degrees in Nc today truck unplugged the old 7.3 fired right up
Very helpful, thank you very much...
I had no idea you ran that non profit for vets. Thanks for that!
Mark Antonio yeah bill is all about the vets class A mechanic and a class A guy too!!!
Dude... You re like a surgeon for trucks.
I have a 2015 F250 6.7 diesel apart at work... Rental vehicle and the customer somehow managed to get water in the tank and rust the injection pump and the injectors. Over $5k just in parts. Glad he caught this one before he ran it!
+DanielJaegerFilms : He's a liar. But no surprise. Know how I know? That DEF fluid was all throughout the lines and filters and everything. The mechanic showed it in the video.
DEF FLUID (2 pack) of 2.5 gallon jugs for $7.00 each - FREE SHIPPING!! www.walmart.com/ip/DEF-Diesel-Exhaust-Fluid-2-2-5-Gallon-Jugs/837857789
another awesome video Bill! I have dealt with several cars where people have put diesel in a gas engine car before and its usually not a happy ending but sometimes they can be saved much like this. I wonder why they decided to put both fill locations right next to each other like that seems like they could have put DEF under the hood or even add a separate door for it they are just asking for this simple mistake to happen when they are right next to each other.
This is why I love my 7.3 love your channel great help to everyone who love the Powerstrokes
+Beaver Dam Amen to that Brother.... Havin a 2nd one rebuilt soon, not moving away from that one for a looooong time-
+Beaver Dam I love Fords too but I think Bill loves Fords because they make him some good money. Not trying hate, I'm just saying.
+WildTurkey Rye Love my 00' Ranger 3.0 5 speed. Its been good to me other than getting some bad fuel in an e85 system. Mom and Pop location sold me 20 bucks worth of water almost. I came to a stop a few miles before summit racing in Ohio where I planned to spend some money on my truck. Well that money was spent on repairs and hotel costs.
Not surprising that a 7.3 part comes to the rescue for one of the new pieces of junk they are making.
Long live the 7.3!!!
this makes me appreciate my 96 7.3.
same.
thanks. i want to see how the ford version works out. the problems they had with turbo design in the past concerns me because this brake is a dual purpose turbo.
I wonder if a distilled spirit was a cause of this repair.
If you don't start it but turn key on do you have to change the whole system?
Drop and Flush the tank
Blow the lines
Change Low pressure Fuel pump.
Change the other fuel filter
Driver the shit out of it for a few weeks.
How do I know you ask?
Because I'm the dumbest idiot on the planet. I poured 2 gallons of DEF into a 1/2 a tank of fuel. I was in such a hurry I was squeezing the plastic bladder to get that DEF fluid in faster. Then I drove it till it died. 1.5 miles.
Air is the enemy. No air, no crystallization.
Runs great now.
Wonder if Ford was to relocate the def fill how often would this happen.
Today Feb 3, 21 I put about 1 quart of DEF in my 2014 f250 6.7 fuel tank... I immediatly drained one gallon from the filter, it is milky... Not containments,,,, do I still need to drop the tank and get the def out or will just changing the fuel filters be ok...
Unfortunately for me I pumped a gallon of it in my tank Dodge doesn’t have a gas cap just a flapper and it was at a truck stop so that gallon took less than 3 seconds before I realized that I had put the nozzle into the flapper hole. Now I’ve got a 10K estimate for repair 🤬
Man. That sucks. You got it repaired? Running okay now? I’m dealing with this after a mindless mistake!
local ford dealership put Def into the fuel tank of my dad's truck. it raised all kinds of warning lights on his dash. long story short they tried saying It was the diesel fuel he bought not their mistake. 600 bucks later it was back in the road.
I clean out the diesel tank on F250 2012 6.7 L, and also fuel lines (Yes I did turn the engine when I put in def. It only last 30 secs and engine blow-out black smoke and died out on its own immediately. Then I realized what I just did). After cleaning tank, I got new filters, I loose the fuel line out at top fuel filter and also loosen the return fuel line at cooler in to pan. I key turn to pump , the fuel circulation is good , it all seems working, let out more of fuel out from line for clean.. I hooked the line back in only at the upper fuel filter. At cooler I left it loose still in pan. Now the problem is I crank the engine .. it spins but it won’t start. Is there a spark plug or injection fuse?
I put in diesel fuel treat in as well. Engine Turns Still no start. I bought me 2 cycle oil but I’m hesitate to pour in the tank yet. Not sure what 2 cycle brand or among need to put in the tank. Any suggest on type and among. Worried here.
Don't the newer trucks (2008-) shut off if water gets in the fuel system? You mentioned the 6.4s do in the 7.3 vs 6.0 vs 6.4 series
If DEF contaminated fuel goes all of the way through the fuel system then the ONLY option is to replace the entire fuel (with the exception of the fuel tank which can be cleaned) and fuel injection system including all of the lines. This is due to the fact that the DEF Fluid is a strong Oxidizer that instantly begins oxidization of any metal that it contacts.
When my previous company truck (2007 Dodge 2500 With the 6.7 Bluetech Cummins) and 310,000 miles was totaled by the insurance company due to a crackhead stealing the DPF and damaging the rest of the emissions system. $8,700.00 to repair.
The insurance adjuster told me that he had just finished working a claim on a Ford Powerstroke that had been run with DPF in the fuel till it started running bad, there was video evidence of some kids dumping 2.5 Gallons of DPF that was in the bed of the truck into the fuel tank the night before. The repairs totaled just over $15,000.00 from a Ford Dealer!
All of these trucks need Locking Fuel Doors or caps.
Have 2011 powerstroke 6.7, put diesel fluid in tank, drained it out I thought! 6 months later truck stops running on highway...towed to ford dealer.. found water in fuel filter, they say fuel system needs replaced, $11,500.00. Not sure reason from diesel fluid or bad gas. Anyway just to clean the tank , flush lines to HPFP, and replace HPFP: $4,500.00. 260 miles from home no more money. Truck starts fine, drove it home but couldn't push throttle down. Engine de-rates and cuts off but 70 to 80 mph with light throttle runs fine. Got home, code reader says: Poo87 Fuel Rail System Pressure Low. Once I get some more TRUCK money guess I will change rails myself dealer charged me 2300.00 just for labor (does that sound right)? I had a 2008 f250 6.0...spent a bunch of money on that one trying to make it run (81k miles) traded for the 2011 have now (82k miles). Morale of this story don't buy a fucking diesel truck unless you are a very good mechanic or have a ton of money to keep it running. Wish I could drive it for one year without breaking down, if I ever get it fixe that MF'r is gone Damn!
Soni have a 2013 f250 6.7 PS...an my DEF systems messes up I'm wondering what exactly components are there to the system. .I'm thinking a a tank -pump-hearer-line to injector..an that's it.?
I get the convenience of having the DEF fill up next to the diesel, but it probably would be safer under the hood, but there really isn't much room under there.
Is there any peticular additive that would clean out the trace amounts of crystals in the system?
does the sun shine there? seems like every video it's raining
Two of my companies trucks def systems were contaminated with diesel. 6000 dollars each at the place they take em.
One F550 and One Hino.
On both trucks the def fill port and fuel are on opposite sides of trucks...
Any idea how much diesel it takes in the def system to cause a complete replacement ?
A company hired to fuel our trucks put two gallons in one , the 550 someone used a funnel that was used for a diesel skid steer they think.
This is why it's safer to have the urea in a different location like an example the VW Passat TDI the fill port is in the trunk also the Touareg but the 2015 Golf has it under the fuel door witch is a dangerous place the Audi Q 7 has the fill port under the fuel door but you need a tool to open it then you might pay more attention when you fill the exhaust fluid and what about vehicle that has a cap less fuel filler I don't know but I think it's a stupid idea what about in winter or raining you always get moisture in the fuel system ? I work on diesel all the time it never happen yet I think that for the cars I work on the exhaust fluid last usually for the length of the oil change and we (tech) that fill the tank for the customers it might be different now that Volkswagen is having to recall the TDI engine for emission problems .
+V10PDTDI this is one of the reasons GM put it under the hood on a duramax, i've only seen it once, wiped out 3 injectors, buddy was 2 stupid to even understand what he did, SOMEHOW nothing else took a shit. yet at least
+V10PDTDI : I think they should put it next to the cupholder. LOL
Hopefully you have insurance and keep a stock truck to back up the insurance. (So they don't think your trying to get a new or rebuilt motor). Sadly my wife gassed my diesel and luckily my insurance covered the repair. They replaced whole fuel system cleaned fuel tank. New injectors new fuel pump. New oil pump even.
+curtis munday : Wow... If that ain't insurance FRAUD, I don't know what is. What a load. Sorry to hear your wife effed up, but for christ's sake, why the hell did the insurance company pay for it?!?! They definitely are not supposed to cover acts of STUPIDITY! It's really no wonder our insurance rates are so damned high nowadays!
DEF= piss poor lubricant= big $ repair. Inattention costs lots of money, especially on new equipment with fine tolerance, precision components
Great video thanks man! So how long would you be able to drive with def in the fuel?
About a quarter of a mile before you completely lose all power
And then it’s catastrophic?
Ahhh the old bull piss in the fuel tank trick........
Lol I remember when my dad put gasoline in his 2013 F250 6.7L. That was a pain in the ass.
this is the exact reason GM put it under the hood, it SUCKS where it is, but this is something we rarely see.
but it really does suck when it happens, have seen one where i had to put quite a few parts in it, those cp4's really hate water
i say he ran that for a bit, when you did the upper filter part, the fuel looks like shit for a long while, didnt run it long but i say he did a little!
trucks were a lot simpler 20 years ago
I would delete the DEF but not happening in my state.
Why not put the filler holes behind different hatches? Would that be be too sensible?
+Burkutace27 CHevy has them under the hood.
I have 2 6.0s I want to bring them to you and have you install a bunch of performance parts could I buy the parts from you or do I have to buy the parts offline and just have you install them for me
I know what the problem is Ford put the urea cap next to the diesel cap.
What if the DEF FILLER was on the other side of the truck?
on the f550 stake beds it is. still didn't stop a guy at my shop from dumping def into the fuel tank and ruining a motor.
+guitaristxcore try seeing someone put diesel in the def tank,some people! if the nozzel dont fit,might want to stop and think about what ur doin. lol i seen someone trying to do that once on a ford. mine is under the hood,not as convenient,but harder to make those mistakes.
+Ron Spins : Better idea... put the DEF Filler in the junkyard, with the rest of the truck. Fuckin' junk. Way better off rebuilding your old diesel trucks and keeping them around, no doubt about it.
+guitaristxcore : LMAO... And unfortunately, that kinda shit will always happen as long as we hire low-dollar, small-minded fucktards to work for us.
I got water in my diesel fuel, my local dealer voided my warrantee and it cost me $9,460.00 at another Ford dealer. My dealer refused to work on my truck because I caught the red handed in three different lies. Luckily, my insurance company reimbursed me a total of $10,130.50.
ISLAND DAVE I just put def fluid on my 2017 f350 diesel tank I took it to a ford dealership and they want 12k to fixed I have full cover comercial insurance thru Geico do you think they will cover the cost
Deleting will guarantee you from never having this problem.
Getting diesel fuel in the DEF tank is just as expensive.
+TBird100636 : Exactly. LOL Gee, I wonder if I just piss in the flux capacitor just this one time, then maybe I could return Back to the Future? As the saying goes, "stupid is as stupid does". Sorry, but I just don't feel bad for anyone that is too damned incompetent to know what hole to stick their fluids in. Let the chips fall where they may. LMAO!!!
I really want a heavy duty truck. If I can't get a 7.3 for a decent price is there anything wrong with the 5.4?
+Kenji SFL failure of the fuel pump driver module, ignition system, and then you have the, timing chain, tensioners, and the variable valve timing problems. One of the worst Gassers on the market for the 04-10 year models.
CZcams it! Hahaha! Trust me there are way better diesels than the 7.3. Cheaper parts and easier to maintain.
what do you think about the new engine brakes on the 2015?
+Yukon Cornelious I have not had the pleasure yet. Jake Brakes have been around forever. BD diesel mad a killer set up for 7.3 and 6.0L. It is about time Ford payed attention to what their buyers really want.
+powerstrokehelp we have one in our Dodge 4500 cab and chassis, and it works extremely well
Lights???? Anybody
I put my gas cap on my back bumper every time I fill up. I lady ask me have I ever forgot about the cap and drove off. I told her no because I'm a car guy. I also told her if u are a parent. You want forget your child is n the back seat of to put them up from the day care.
Self-serve fuel pumps will eliminate this problem to.
Billy How can email you?
I just went through this. 2 gallons of DEF into a half a tank of fuel. Drove 1 mile.
Steps taken.
1. Removed fuel tank drained and flushed
2. Blew fuel lines out.
3. Removed and replaced both fuel filters.
4.Filled tank and drove. After 1/2 a tank my low pressure fuel pump/water seperator began squealing.
5. R&R pump.
No problems after first tank used.🤞
Any issues so far? I put maybe an 1/8th of a bottle in mine.
Any problems so far ??
im sure you wash your self with that archoil
Dude. Youre red.
at the end of video under phone number powerstroke is spelt wrong
+john d : That's ok... BTW, there's no such word as "spelt" either. It's "spelled", not spelt! Damn I love you guys that correct other people, and then show that you can't spell correctly either! Gives me reason to laugh my ass off! Oops sorry, I meant LMAO - Hah!
I really wish Ford would have just put a separate door on for the DEF or something, but you go idiot proofing stuff and they just build better idiots.
WTF??? Good god Ford Powertrokes are a piece of crap! What a fucking pain in the dick!!!
Go drink some Koolaid and get over it Koolaidman. There just trucks and they all have there problems but as far as rankings go it's Chevy --> Ford --> Dodge. And I have owned all three makes and my Chevy proved to be the best IMO.
seems like if you look at them trucks the wrong way they brake down i would be terrifide to drive one because of how easy it is to brake one and how easy they brake down seems like a lot of money to pay out fore sum thing so unreliable like your driving along and pop! 17k just like that i was going to by a new super duty 6.7 and now that i know how meny problems they have i think i will stay away from them don't get me wrong they are a nice truck but all this problems and def dpf stuff and if you run out of that fluid you can't drive your truck more then 7 kph kind of like they are made to fail it's to bad cuz they are nice trucks
i know it sucks
+Brian F : It's why the used truck market, PRE-DEF and DPF has exploded. Guys are keeping, rebuilding, and restoring their older diesels (Pre-Diesel Exhaust Fluid and pre-Diesel Particulate Filters) at a record pace never seen before. Why? More durable, more reliable, less downtime, less cost to operate, less cost to purchase. Flat out cheaper to own. Not to mention, the older diesels were more fuel efficient to boot! You can take a $10,000 decent used diesel truck... Pour $10 to $20 thousand into totally resurrecting it, and you have an absolutely mint used truck that is better than the new TRASH that all of the manufacturers are pushing for $50 to $60 thousand dollars new. Only fools are buying new trucks nowadays.
+Brian F yea and nobody has near as many issues as powerstrokes. notice your commenting on powerstroke help not cummins / duramax. Ford owners are delusional as liberals.
lol
Murph_Derf
: Exactly...
DEF in Europe is called ADblue
A fool and his money soon part. Diesel engines in a pickup? Huge waste of money. You NEVER come out better at the end!