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  • Apex Legends Season 4 Tier List - All Characters Ranked in Split 2 | Apex Meta Report. Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code TGM20 at MANSCAPED.com! bit.ly/334ZYgD - All Legends ranked from best to worst in season 4 by the gaming merchant.
    All Legends in the new Season 4.5 ranked split are good but which one is the best? We think that whilst newcomer Revenant may a great character, they actually fall below what we'd hoped, but thankfully some great buffs to other legends help to bring freshness to the meta.
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  • @Thegamingmerchant
    @Thegamingmerchant  Před 4 lety +98

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    • @THE_Mirage
      @THE_Mirage Před 4 lety +4

      I can finally shave my lickable grass...

    • @kelvinrafael6361
      @kelvinrafael6361 Před 4 lety +4

      You should do the iconic longbeachgriffy teeth lick during the manscaped promotion

    • @Retro--
      @Retro-- Před 4 lety

      @AwesomeFacegaming Bangalore has the second smallest hitbox but she isn't a low profile so she takes normal damage

    • @domokilla9944
      @domokilla9944 Před 4 lety

      I love this 😂

    • @dynamicheatwave9949
      @dynamicheatwave9949 Před 4 lety

      You advertised that perfectly at the beginning

  • @Artan_IESL
    @Artan_IESL Před 4 lety +822

    Community: Buff Mirage and Octane
    Respawn: Skins?

    • @strangercreature7802
      @strangercreature7802 Před 4 lety +15

      Revenant: i want to die but i can't
      WHAY no one care about revenent

    • @jelol1786
      @jelol1786 Před 4 lety +70

      They'll probably just buff Gibraltar again

    • @WALTER-zw2tc
      @WALTER-zw2tc Před 4 lety +3

      JeLOL1 Channeru they nerfed him so this meme is dead sorry

    • @freshyeska9875
      @freshyeska9875 Před 4 lety +2

      @@WALTER-zw2tc he is going to get buffed with the changes they will make to legend classes, he will now revive teammates with shields (maybe fullshields) idk if they will nerf him to counteract this and balance him since he is already so powerful. We will have to wait and see.

    • @vikingman2844
      @vikingman2844 Před 4 lety +1

      @@strangercreature7802 he says why cant i just die already lol

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 Před 4 lety +335

    I was thinking, the fact that you and iTemp haven't played together is a shame. It would be two of the most calm British gamers on CZcams politely playing Apex.

  • @elarrondo5605
    @elarrondo5605 Před 4 lety +150

    Just want to introduce another issue:
    The kraber can have a collateral effect on 3 enemies, but can’t penetrate Gibraltar’s arm shield.

    • @SpaghettiTop
      @SpaghettiTop Před 4 lety +5

      Aim for the head brother

    • @purplebooga9267
      @purplebooga9267 Před 4 lety +4

      Braden Lanahan gibby was the worst legend until season three he finally is buffed. I think that he shouldn't get nerfed for a little while.

    • @purplebooga9267
      @purplebooga9267 Před 4 lety +1

      Braden Lanahan but I agree on mirage and octane cuz they just love changing the characters that don't need it. Mirage has been the worst ever since the game came out and they don't care

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela Před 4 lety +1

      Lifeline doesn't need to throw dome to heal and revive faster.

    • @purplebooga9267
      @purplebooga9267 Před 4 lety +2

      Braden Lanahan I think they should take away the fast revive

  • @critical_crunch
    @critical_crunch Před 4 lety +131

    Octane to the sponsor: “She’s fast like me.”

  • @samlasalle3853
    @samlasalle3853 Před 4 lety +544

    I think pathfinder should be S tier honestly, his mobility is just completely unmatched.

    • @ThefrutigerAeroGuy
      @ThefrutigerAeroGuy Před 4 lety +79

      True its funny how he is is literally faster than octane who is suppose to be the fastest his mobility is really insane you cant get instant high ground and push/escape fights the quickest

    • @alirezagamdomi8
      @alirezagamdomi8 Před 4 lety +17

      If by unmatched you mean OP then yea

    • @gozen6765
      @gozen6765 Před 4 lety +7

      Sam LaSalle cries in octane

    • @fencal2
      @fencal2 Před 4 lety +23

      I find you can fly so far with PF literally sometimes you grapple to get up a building and just launch yourself across the map instead

    • @lilian9725
      @lilian9725 Před 4 lety +1

      I'm not sure because now, Apex players are more defensive with Gibraltar and Wattson...so I don't know...

  • @geekycraft
    @geekycraft Před 4 lety +124

    Tier list
    S- Gibraltar, Pathfinder, Wraith
    A- Lifeline, Bangalore, Wattson,
    B- Caustic, Bloodhound, Crypto
    C- Octane
    D- Revenant, Mirage

    • @whoyoucolin
      @whoyoucolin Před 4 lety +3

      What about for solos.

    • @Zencho639
      @Zencho639 Před 4 lety +6

      Thanks the information Thar I need less than 17 min

    • @Pacheco3
      @Pacheco3 Před 4 lety +1

      I love octane concept

    • @mathias3885
      @mathias3885 Před 4 lety +5

      You got it wrong but whatever

    • @BurningShadows00
      @BurningShadows00 Před 4 lety +1

      Revenants hitbox is garbage, but at least c tier as his silence allows you to take the kill without them running

  • @E88twenty2
    @E88twenty2 Před 4 lety +71

    Got chased by a bloodhound yesterday for about 5 minutes. I was low on health and had no weapons.
    Finally got away after taking a 2 jump towers and dropping my rocket strike in his direction.
    It was terrifying.

    • @BurningShadows00
      @BurningShadows00 Před 4 lety +1

      Oof

    • @exotic-1
      @exotic-1 Před 4 lety +1

      @Hy Ho I researched more information and it currently says he/she is considered They more information is currently being added by fellow leakers that keep me up to date

    • @BurningShadows00
      @BurningShadows00 Před 4 lety +1

      @@exotic-1 actually, their a female

    • @exotic-1
      @exotic-1 Před 4 lety +4

      @@BurningShadows00 If you knew more lore you would know yes bloodhound is a girl but bloodhound considers herself They

    • @exotic-1
      @exotic-1 Před 4 lety

      @@sluttyboy69 Nothing is known about Bloodhound beyond the fact that Bloodhound is known across the Outlands as one of the greatest game hunters the Frontier has ever seen - and that’s about all anyone knows. Their identity is a mystery wrapped in layers of rumors: they are fabulously wealthy, a bloodthirsty murderer, a Goliath whisperer, a former slave, half bat, and a dozen other things depending on who’s doing the whispering.
      All anyone truly knows is that Bloodhound is a force to be reckoned with in the Apex Games. Bloodhound’s unparalleled tracking skills are a boon to any team they join, helping them root out
      hidden opponents and tracking the enemy’s movements. Calling on Earth’s Old Norse Gods to guide them, Bloodhound believes that destiny is a path that has already been laid out, eventually carrying all to their death. But with that knowledge comes strength, because until that day comes, Bloodhound knows they can’t be stopped.

  • @g_893
    @g_893 Před 4 lety +254

    If mirage doesn't get a buff then I'm sticking my hand in a deep fryer

  • @Hunt3r001
    @Hunt3r001 Před 4 lety +54

    An idea I had for a rework of mirage’s passive is that not only does he go invisible and drop a decoy when he gets knocked but also when he is reviving someone and maybe the decoy he drops when he gets knocked could also fall down on all fours to make it a little more believable.

    • @1ntothefray583
      @1ntothefray583 Před 4 lety +1

      And have multiple decoy tactical charges . Maybe 2 or 3

    • @jakeshapiro5158
      @jakeshapiro5158 Před 4 lety +2

      This might make him to overpowerd but I think a way to fix his tack is to allow him to clone outher ledgends

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety

      They could just have him cloak when all his health is gone.
      You have six seconds to move normally, sprint, slide jump and all that then you go down.
      His passive is called "encore" but you cant go anywhere to stay safe in the six seconds you have because crawl speed is atrocious.
      Even revenants crouch speed wouldn't be fast enough

    • @mrflynn3088
      @mrflynn3088 Před 4 lety +1

      His passive should be something not to be triggered if he is dead (In Solo he doesnt have a passive...). His passive should be something like: If he wears a shield, any enemy think he has a white normal shield. Doesnt matter if he has a yellow, purple or blue...I´m open for other ideas but they should get rid of this stupid "im dead and everyone can still kill me" passive....or gibe him at least a second one like lifeline or 1 of the 6 passives from gibraltar....

  • @bambi20082148
    @bambi20082148 Před 4 lety +81

    I imagined you smaller, nice looks bro

    • @salvosamurai9919
      @salvosamurai9919 Před 4 lety +7

      Dude this is crazy I always imagined him looking way different lol

  • @betasqaud
    @betasqaud Před 4 lety +30

    They need to change caustics gas so ur teammates dont get slowed they should keep the lack of visabillty so its not op
    As a caustic main i think this could push him up to A tier

    • @dopiest750
      @dopiest750 Před 4 lety +1

      Paddy A I say it would push him to a high b tier

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela Před 4 lety

      It might makes it a bit too OP. If they do that then they will have to make the gas slow less for the enemies, because if you can engulf the entire enemy team with your gas and your team can just run in and out while strafing perfectly fine when enemy team can't, that's a one button victory there.
      I prefer them to further reduce the gas slowdown for friendlies but increase the AoE of the ultimate a bit more.

    • @betasqaud
      @betasqaud Před 4 lety

      @@CrnaStrela i was thinking that if u keep the visability issues it would make it on par with bangalores smoke and not make hers obselete

  • @christopherescovedo5471
    @christopherescovedo5471 Před 4 lety +82

    1hp not 10. Unless they changed it, I wouldn’t know as I have not played him since the first two weeks. I also will not use other folks totems.

    • @KFCHarbinger
      @KFCHarbinger Před 4 lety

      Christopher Escovedo it should be 5% so its not broken

    • @chalkpitbullwatermelon1897
      @chalkpitbullwatermelon1897 Před 4 lety +5

      Dr Octo *50%

    • @marlymcfly1991
      @marlymcfly1991 Před 4 lety +4

      @@chalkpitbullwatermelon1897 yeah 50% would make it good enough to compete with the top tier but might actually be slightly op. I believe 25 health would be a good aption as long as his hitbox is actually fixed and those 2 changes would make him absolutley viable (especially since his silent fast crouch passive is awesome) but not op.

    • @christopherescovedo5471
      @christopherescovedo5471 Před 4 lety +1

      Dr Octo so 5hp?

    • @attackbrains2095
      @attackbrains2095 Před 4 lety

      it’s still 1

  • @FH-3102
    @FH-3102 Před 4 lety +60

    4:30 why is forge on the screen

    • @TopHatLad
      @TopHatLad Před 4 lety +3

      TGM Revenant confirmed

    • @StepBro_Joe
      @StepBro_Joe Před 4 lety

      🤣

    • @f.b.iagent3971
      @f.b.iagent3971 Před 4 lety +1

      Edgar Quintanilla it was, that’s why he was only meleeing as octane or had no shield, a sentinel and an alternator as mirage

    • @plantplant6238
      @plantplant6238 Před 4 lety +2

      It showed forge with an x over his face. Revanent killed forge

    • @FH-3102
      @FH-3102 Před 4 lety +1

      Nugget Thumper yeah I got that but I wouldn’t see any reason to add this as it wasn’t done with any other legends backstorys as such

  • @cullitonarchives
    @cullitonarchives Před 4 lety +17

    I feel like Mirages decoys should have the ability to shoot blanks at enemies so that they can't tell which Mirage is actually shooting them. This would also make him more useful in rooms. Say the decoy when finding an enemy acts like a bot. They move around and shoot the enemy players (without actually doing damage of course). Maybe even give his decoys like 20 health so that they don't vanish right away and people might actually think they are shooting a real player for even just a second which could really throw them off. His ultimate could make him invisible but also all his decoys. He and all his decoys would then reveal themselves at the same time and the decoys could act like I suggested earlier and start firing blanks at the enemy players and move around causing confusion while the real Mirage could shoot them or heal up. I just think his decoys need a buff so that they actually do something. Also say his passive was that at around 30% health he drops a downed decoy and turns invisible making people think they killed him while he is actually alive still. I personally don't think these changes would make him too OP either since they really just buff his decoys so they actually do what they are supposed to, which is confuse the enemy

    • @azrazerz1445
      @azrazerz1445 Před 4 lety

      You really dont think an ult that spawns 8 decoys or whatever it is that shoot at and distract an enemy team isnt overpowered??? I think the only reasonable buffes to his abilities that wouldnt make him op are increased decoy health that show actual damage numbers when hit and the ability to throw out like 3 decoy runners each on a 30 second cool down. His ult decoys should also run away. It's way to easy to track an ulting mirage.

    • @azrazerz1445
      @azrazerz1445 Před 4 lety

      Also, your end bit about his abilities being supposed to confuse enemies, I think your suggestions would make him the most op terrifying legend in the game lol. I could just imagine running up on a team and all of a sudden having to fight 10 mirages and 2 other legends at the same time

  • @itweztube
    @itweztube Před 4 lety +40

    Instead of Mirage going invis when downed, he should go invis when looting a death crate for a brief period.

    • @theunholybakery1990
      @theunholybakery1990 Před 4 lety +11

      You are big brain.

    • @theguide3686
      @theguide3686 Před 4 lety

      @@theunholybakery1990 Brain size: Mega.

    • @gabe-beagan412
      @gabe-beagan412 Před 4 lety +1

      wesley smyth either that or when he heals

    • @llbakall4980
      @llbakall4980 Před 4 lety +3

      Could be pretty useless. I think he should personally either - get a buff where him and a downed player go invisible for a couple of seconds when reviving; or when reviving - it should create a large number of clones around him that mimic the reviving animation for both legends throughout the whole revive and then they all scatter randomly at the end.

    • @delanozzz6241
      @delanozzz6241 Před 4 lety +2

      They should make his tactical bamboozles of his teamates

  • @squibbles_
    @squibbles_ Před 4 lety +44

    I'd like to bring up some of my own points about a few legends I play.
    -at the moment, I'd actually put Mirage over Revenant. I feel like Mirage's playstyle gets misunderstood lots of the time, making him seem weaker than he is. Mirage should use the decoy sheerly with the intent of distracting the enemy, regardless of whether or not they shoot it. If you've got good aim, you can try and use the decoy one way mid-fight, (preferably close ranged,) and shoot from the other way. The decoy is more of a compliment to Mirage's gunplay. Revenant, meanwhile, doesn't have anything. His tactical is only useful on a few legends, his ult is also really situational, and if anything, his passive is alright.
    -For the most part I agree with the Octane placement. His ult and passive are good, but his tactical is kinda lackluster at times. I play him a ton myself, and I've got three potential buffs. I think just one of them would do fine, but I don't think two or all of them should be applied.
    1) Make him faster, simple. Maybe buff it to 50%?
    2) damage shouldn't slow him down while he's stimed, just like fortified characters don't get slowed down.
    3) make him quieter while stimmed. This won't make him any faster, but it might make the stim easier to use for agressive plays, or during a fight.
    -I'm not sure where I'd place Caustic, but I'd definently place him higher. His gas is really strong, and once your in it, it's super hard to win a gunfight against the enemy causic. His ult, I find, is one of the best in the game. It pretty much lets Caustic claim an area as his own, and knock anyone that takes too long to leave. Not to mention that unlike Gibby or Bangalore, he can use it indoors.
    -Finally, I'd probably swap Wattson and Bangalore. You talked about Bangalore's ult, but failed to really bring up Wattson's ult. Her ult can entierly negate grenades, Bangalore and Gibby's air strikes, and Caustic's grenade, all of which could usualy force a defensive player out of position. The sheild recharge can also save you a few sheild cells (and time,) mid fight, and you can almost always have it ready with an ult accelerant.

    • @reubenphilip_712
      @reubenphilip_712 Před 4 lety +3

      Vøjo_Mojø _ He also said Caustic’s hit-box is overrated, but it’s the second biggest hit-box in the game! If Caustic’s hit-box is overrated, then surely he can’t say Mirage’s hit-box is big.

    • @cluelesslyblue
      @cluelesslyblue Před 4 lety +2

      Ok so, I agree with your opinions and I respect it. However, there is one thing that doesn't seem right to me. Please remember this is my opinion. It's not entirely true, it's just what I think. Mirage might deserve to be lower than Revenant. And the only thing that's stopping him from being above Revenant is that: His decoys in his ult basically are useless and his passive is garbage. Don't get me wrong, invisibility is cool but you're not that invisible (because there's a sillhouette and you're not that in the clear. The decoys just stand there when activating your ULT and enemies know that you're invisible and are trying to run away, so they'll hunt you down. However, offensively, yeah it's a good flanking ultimate. His passive is just garbage. Absolute garbage. His passive does literally nothing expect tells the enemies you aren't gone. You literally blink to invisibility for a split second so they know where you are. Now Revenant on the other hand can do a bit better than Mirage because of his abilities. His Passive is excellent for flanking or escaping through a corner and climbing higher walls, his tactical is good on almost all legends because remember, it can disable their ultimates too. Everyone's skills are important to them, so Revenant disabling them will make them useless and make them rely on their gun skills. And Revenant's Ultimate is not that bad. It solely depends on how your team utilizes it. It's better to have two teammates damage them in Shadow Form and one teammate stays behind for the clean up. It's not meant to have all teammates rush in. And his ultimate is good for his teammates when Mirage, unfortunately, cannot benefit his team at all.

    • @alirezagamdomi8
      @alirezagamdomi8 Před 4 lety +1

      Yea octane should be faster

    • @reubenphilip_712
      @reubenphilip_712 Před 4 lety +1

      Uh Oh Didn’t Respawn fix it so there’s no silhouette when Mirage goes invisible?

    • @apollosykapsoa7117
      @apollosykapsoa7117 Před 4 lety

      @@reubenphilip_712 I agree that his hitbox is overrated. it is just a bit bigger than revenants actually
      caustic is 150000 pixels while gibby is 200000 pixels
      but I believe caustic is better than lifeline and bangalore

  • @Obsidian72
    @Obsidian72 Před 4 lety +9

    6:42 Anyone notice that split second where octane has the knife on top of his hand?

    • @Cummster
      @Cummster Před 4 lety +1

      Obsidian Breaker he’s been playing Assassins Creed again

  • @frenchwaffl
    @frenchwaffl Před 4 lety +9

    Bangalore is my favorite
    Also, I’ve found that a lot of people don’t know that her smoke cannon actually does damage if you hit someone with it
    It can do up to 30 damage if you hit someone with all 3 shells

  • @m.aryaanamiri2755
    @m.aryaanamiri2755 Před 4 lety +1

    Octane buff ideas:-
    Passive regenerates quicker(2 hp for 1 second)
    Tactitcal:speed is increased to 60 %
    Hitbox is reduced
    Ult:You can double jump and change your directions midair
    This will definitely make him A tier

    • @alirezagamdomi8
      @alirezagamdomi8 Před 4 lety

      Yea man he really should be faster
      I mean he should be the fastest legend in the game

    • @m.aryaanamiri2755
      @m.aryaanamiri2755 Před 4 lety

      @@alirezagamdomi8 Yea. That is literally what he was supposed to be when he dropped.

  • @PR1ME98
    @PR1ME98 Před 4 lety +9

    I agree Revenants totem really needs a change. The fact that its more of a hinderance is crazy

    • @guyguylazy
      @guyguylazy Před 4 lety

      got buffed now. 50% health

    • @noidea2338
      @noidea2338 Před 4 lety

      @@guyguylazy yeah now it's like having 250 health(with purple armor) and it's useful

  • @x2c.diamundz
    @x2c.diamundz Před 4 lety +7

    15:35 that's so true, literally no one can keep up with path. I was playing bloodhound and my friend was playing octane and neither one of us could catch him and I actually lost track of him (I was also ulting)

    • @ChunkyChungus
      @ChunkyChungus Před 4 lety

      Well when bloodhound activates beast of the hunt then pathfinder can do 1 grapple and then bloodhound will catch up with path

  • @moderngriffinbros9438
    @moderngriffinbros9438 Před 4 lety +7

    I actually hear that mirage isn't awful. Raynday said that he was mid tier. His passive makes it hard to get killed if you get downed, is tactical is good like you said, and is ult can actually be used to flank midfight really well.

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety

      His passive is terrible, its one of the things that needs the most love.
      Personally I'd make it so that you dont go down, you cloak and you can move freely for a few seconds, so you can relocate.
      As it is, if you get hit and go down in close quarters all you have to do is walk up to the decoy and you'll get the execution prompt.
      I mean, if your two team mates are still alive, you can just execute him, it takes the same amount of time as popping a battery, it finishes him off and it circumvents needing to see him.
      If you were able to run away, then the passive would be good. It'd be an actual encore.
      His Ult could use a small buff, mainly just that you dont make noise while running when you're cloaked, that'd be a great help because half the strength of his ult is using it not to flank but to get right up in someones face, decloak behind them and mag dump them.
      And his tactical when used right is about drawing fire away from you for a splitsecond to get free damage, like by sliding and sending the decoy around the corner, and then you peek it while ADS'd to fire.
      They shoot at the decoy and you get a free peek

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 Před 4 lety

      @@ethandonnelly1973 they should just increase his passive upto 10s. Definitely gives him time to hide and self revive if he has gold shield.

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety

      @@santhoshsridhar5887 It doesn't though
      The issue with it is the fact that its so easy to not care sbout the passive at all.
      I just execute mirage players after they go down, cant stop me.
      That's his issue. It never does anything against a decent player

  • @Crabdawg
    @Crabdawg Před 4 lety +10

    They really need to rework Wraith, she's the definition of a character who is fun to play because of how OP and easy they are but is never fun to play against.

    • @mr.breadstick9241
      @mr.breadstick9241 Před 4 lety

      Crabdawg they can’t change her abilities entirely because most legends come from titan fall 2

    • @QuietElite
      @QuietElite Před 4 lety +6

      Wraith isn't very OP and I never had a problem with Wraiths despite the fact that many abilities make me sometimes angry to play against. Unless your squad is competent and can cover you her Q is often not very useful because you can easily get chased down unlike for example Pathfinders Q which has even a cooldown that is more than twice as fast.
      They should rather nerf fortified and/or Gibraltars gunshield because the hitbox was never a big issue for me especially in close combat.

    • @justalpha9138
      @justalpha9138 Před 4 lety

      Wraith isn't overpowered, but she is too good

    • @iforgotoputausername
      @iforgotoputausername Před 4 lety

      Wraith is ok basing off how I play.

    • @theduke5484
      @theduke5484 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah, Eye roll. 1 character has to be the best. Nerf wraith and then a different character will take her place. Honestly, the only reason she is the #1 pick is due to her hit box. Her abilities are consistent with her character and well balanced but if you have good aim and game sense you can make any legend work for you. There are a lot of pro players with 20 kill & 4K damage games on any legend. I've personally never said, "oh no a wraith" when going into a gun fight. I have said that in regards to a giddy or caustic, and more recently blood hound when I get scanned. Wraith's ain't scary. When they use their tac you know you're winning the fight, it's fun to chase them down and drop them shortly after that.

  • @wimdewolf1344
    @wimdewolf1344 Před 4 lety +20

    THANK YOU for giving Bangalore the recognition she deserves!... :) She's from day 1 my main(still is), and its sad she's so underestimated.... Great comparison btw ;)

    • @kevinmal4122
      @kevinmal4122 Před 4 lety +1

      She's my main to. It's sad that she's Is always so underrated. I think she's underrated because she hasn't team abilitys

    • @waleedomari9810
      @waleedomari9810 Před 4 lety +3

      Bangalore is bad lol

    • @vrolijk9865
      @vrolijk9865 Před 4 lety +4

      How is that sad? This way your main doesn't get picked by your team that often so you can play more

    • @cjogumgbuaja3784
      @cjogumgbuaja3784 Před 4 lety +3

      Even tho bang is underrated she is sooooooo annoying

    • @nullhypnosis4991
      @nullhypnosis4991 Před 4 lety +1

      bang is lit

  • @TheLMMCProgram
    @TheLMMCProgram Před 4 lety +6

    A buff for lifeline would be the care package is turned into like backpack she can drop sort of like rook from r6siege instead of 3 items its 6-9 since most of the time I only use her ultimate 2-3 a game.

  • @itzcheeseburger622
    @itzcheeseburger622 Před 4 lety +8

    its easy to buff mirage..just give him more clones like wattson that has more fenses..the ult must be faster..your revenant buff ideas are rly good....actually its EASY to buff legends...there is many ideas BUTT...not for my octane...honestly i dont have nay idea as buff for octane..his kit is not good exept his passive so far
    also nice video

    • @che_da3776
      @che_da3776 Před 4 lety +2

      And change mirage's passive. It sucks

    • @alextheguy6232
      @alextheguy6232 Před 4 lety

      first step to make octane good would definitely be to trim his hitbox. and giving improved air mobility off his jump pad, possibly a double jump would certainly bump him up.

  • @1nky02
    @1nky02 Před 4 lety +2

    Thx man for ur care! Keep up the great content! Very good job

  • @A_Mon
    @A_Mon Před 4 lety +5

    Why Not Give Lifeline the gold bag as a passive and make it less healing given. Instead of 50 shields and 100hp just giver her 25-35 shields and 50-65hp.

    • @chad5115
      @chad5115 Před 4 lety

      No

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela Před 4 lety

      Careful with your idea bro, Gibby might stole that

  • @grimmisascorchmain9486
    @grimmisascorchmain9486 Před 4 lety +3

    I am SO GLAD Lifeline is in A tier. As a Lifeline main, it makes me so happy that she is still up there, clinging on

  • @joehoagland2200
    @joehoagland2200 Před 4 lety +6

    I was scared you were going to demonstrate that product on the video. 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @emiliobaeza4060
    @emiliobaeza4060 Před 4 lety +1

    Revenant's ultimate buff should be having shields in shadow form. This way, you will enter a fight like you would do without the ability, the only perk is returning to the totem when defeated, having 1 or 10 HP.

  • @vikinggrimm3139
    @vikinggrimm3139 Před 4 lety +3

    I believe instead of fortified, Revenant needs fast heals, that would even him out and make him a very viable legend without making him O. P.

  • @paulsc4689
    @paulsc4689 Před 4 lety +3

    Pathfinder should become an offensive character and mirage's ultimate and tactical decoys can scan enemy's within the FOV of a normal player

  • @kelemh
    @kelemh Před 4 lety +34

    Now that we’ve seen ur face (handsome lad btw) what’s ur accent man?

  • @malachimusick6868
    @malachimusick6868 Před 4 lety +1

    The best part is... I was about to buy that product lmao. Thanks for the discount! Glad I could support you with the purchase too

  • @JuanVazquez-zd7do
    @JuanVazquez-zd7do Před 4 lety

    This has some great information and tips, to go along with some great plays. Like those wall running plays too.

  • @itzcheeseburger622
    @itzcheeseburger622 Před 4 lety +13

    bruh respawn BETTER buff my boy octane..ppl out there callin my main trash and useless :(

  • @juozasb4072
    @juozasb4072 Před 4 lety +5

    i think that revenants ulti should turn ppl into the shadows from the halloween gamemode but when u respawn u have full health

  • @avk0418
    @avk0418 Před 4 lety +2

    Keep rocking that Bangalore hair of yours!!
    Love your content, ur like no one else..

  • @iforgotoputausername
    @iforgotoputausername Před 4 lety +1

    I think a good idea for mirage is that his decoy has half his health but also tells whoever shoots it that they killed a decoy, for example if u have 100shield and health it would have 50 shield and health but once someone kills it it makes a marker saying they killed a decoy so they'd waste a clip on it. This would help alot because if someone is reloading and hasnt gotten a single shot into you, their pratically dead.

  • @tac_planterxx7809
    @tac_planterxx7809 Před 4 lety +25

    Silence removes Gibratar’s arm shield so that helps you in a fight :)

    • @fi5707
      @fi5707 Před 4 lety +16

      No it doesnt, his silence only silences the tactical and ult, not The passive

    • @tac_planterxx7809
      @tac_planterxx7809 Před 4 lety +1

      aBobRoss fan it will for Gibratar I tried it in firing range try it to

    • @kylephillip6753
      @kylephillip6753 Před 4 lety +14

      His silence sould kill passive in general

    • @tac_planterxx7809
      @tac_planterxx7809 Před 4 lety +3

      kyle phillip I agree

    • @WALTER-zw2tc
      @WALTER-zw2tc Před 4 lety +2

      TAC_Planterxx i tried and it doesnt work

  • @chrisrenwick2615
    @chrisrenwick2615 Před 4 lety +6

    Mirage does have team play ability.
    You have two teammates distract with suppressive fire that allows Mirage to sneak behind and then open fire.

    • @blackpilloverdose1013
      @blackpilloverdose1013 Před 4 lety

      Indeed There is a tactic where I'm a Crypto or Caustic. My buddy a wattson or a octane and we occasionally get a mirage Player. I play recon. My buddy plays A antagonizer and lures them in. The third guy Bamboozles them to confuse them then I add a Drone EMP or Gas Grenade and it creates so much Confusion. Love it haha

    • @ChapstickandCrouton
      @ChapstickandCrouton Před 4 lety

      By team play he meant having an ability that helps your teammates. Like a portal, grapple, scan, smoke, dome shield. Every other legend has an ability that helps the team but mirage's abilities only help himself. In the scenario you describe it's really the teammates that are helping mirage get the drop

  • @DarKStaR350z
    @DarKStaR350z Před 4 lety

    The thing I noticed with Bloodhound that was weird, is that since the range increase buff it’s only seems horizontal range increased. For example in the Train Yard building I scanned on the ground floor and didn’t pick anyone up but there was a team up on the roof that the scan didn’t reach which threw me off because the horizontal range should have reached over the roof if vertical range was increased as much. Pretty situationally weird

  • @wolfeh6529
    @wolfeh6529 Před 4 lety +2

    For Revenant's ultimate, maybe when returning to the totem, your shields would be converted into health. E.g. with level 1 shields you get 50 hp after returning or with max evo shields you return with full health + 25 shields

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety +1

      So you only have to refill your shields?
      Not a bad idea, though it doesnt really fix the issue since you already have that health available, in shields.
      I guess it would help your re-engage times though since shields are filled faster than health

    • @wolfeh6529
      @wolfeh6529 Před 4 lety

      @@ethandonnelly1973 It's just a little idea that popped in my head. Plus since you spawn with more than 1 health, you won't die to the zone instantly too

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety +1

      @@wolfeh6529 Yeah, At first I thought it was kinda pointless, cuz like yeah if you have unbroken shields you'd already come back with the shield equivalent, but thinking on it more with batteries taking 5 seconds to apply, and medkits taking 8, it'd definitely leave you in a better situation to trade shields for health.

  • @awesomeawesome8350
    @awesomeawesome8350 Před 4 lety +4

    14:00 he misses so much then hits every bullet in the mag.

  • @tetmayer2015
    @tetmayer2015 Před 4 lety +8

    *ILootGames wants to know your location*

  • @BartBasquiato
    @BartBasquiato Před 4 lety +1

    I was healing the other day & someone threw me a perfect nade that I couldn't move because it landed & exploded right away.. I didnt die but I went flying then I remembered when you made a vid saying that was a tool the pros could start using but haven't seen anybody

  • @luvftywaplvr5151
    @luvftywaplvr5151 Před 4 lety

    actually was looking for a razor like that ty

  • @RichDawg91
    @RichDawg91 Před 4 lety +3

    Lifeline's D.O.C. needs love. It makes no sense that her drone is LITERALLY the only deployable tool that gets destroyed by the zone.

    • @MasterPGC
      @MasterPGC Před 4 lety +1

      It wasn’t that way originally. They changed it to where it gets destroyed by the zone to prevent camping in the zone.

    • @RichDawg91
      @RichDawg91 Před 4 lety

      @@MasterPGC- I know, I've been playing since day 1. They should either revert it or make the zone destroy everything a player deploys.

  • @muradasadov8219
    @muradasadov8219 Před 4 lety +4

    When revenant is crouching he should not set of caustic traps

  • @leu3368
    @leu3368 Před 4 lety +1

    I think that to resolve the *hit box problem* they should give every legend a porcentage of fortified depending of how much their silhouette compares to Gibraltar.
    Like Gibraltar is a 100% fortified(because he is the biggest)
    And small characters would be almost 0% fortified like Wraith because they are harder to hit

  • @KryptoCatnip
    @KryptoCatnip Před 4 lety

    I just subscribed, great content

  • @ssaammii
    @ssaammii Před 4 lety +4

    The list, worst at the top, best at the bottom
    mirage
    revenant
    octane
    caustic
    bloodhound
    crypto
    lifeline
    wattson
    bangalore
    gibby
    pathfinder
    wraith

  • @connor4007
    @connor4007 Před 4 lety +4

    Wraiths passive is utterly useless. Saying it’s “cool” doesn’t mean anything. Also this season has been horrible for balancing. Gibraltar is OP in 1v1 situations and deserved to be S tier. The flatline is mistakenly the most versatile weapon in the game with insane damage numbers, The PK got nerfed but what good did that do, the r-99 speaks for itself, half of the legends are just completely useless. Gibraltar got buffed so much that lifelines whole kit is useless. There’s no reason to use lifeline over Gibraltar. Also wraith has one good ability. Her phase used to be good when u had increased speed but now it sucks because people can just follow ur trail, u can’t open doors while in it, and u can’t see anyone so u don’t know what ur coming back to when the phase runs out

  • @eggsandfibsh8846
    @eggsandfibsh8846 Před 4 lety

    I think if they want to make blood hound a better than average there are a couple options.
    1: Make his scan stealthier. He is made to be a hunter. Stealth is a hunters best weapon. Keeping the "you've been scanned" thing is fine, but remove the visual area of effect.
    2: give him another scan, but make its recharge time longer. With this you can scan more of the area selectively.

  • @iforgotoputausername
    @iforgotoputausername Před 4 lety +1

    Lifelines ult is ok, beginning of game it's good but late game your most likely gonna already have the stuff in there so there's not much use, except to alert your location to enemy's / bait people

  • @Dizee2900
    @Dizee2900 Před 4 lety +3

    Finally Bang getting the loves. Most underappreciated Legend also one of the most consistent

  • @zSh1zen
    @zSh1zen Před 4 lety +5

    Crypto shouldn't control his drone manually, the drone should fly on his own so Crypto can push with his teammates. All that would allow a great push if the Crypto times his EMP well.

  • @ayyazkhan1917
    @ayyazkhan1917 Před 4 lety +1

    I really like to use the tactical as a small trap so I put it in a doorway and then I start healing myself.
    If you want to get more use out of your totem be sure to put it in a place where the enemy knows you've fortified, don't put it in the outside and then complain when you get gassed. Hide your totems.

    • @iforgotoputausername
      @iforgotoputausername Před 4 lety

      I usually just bust through anywhere really even if theres a rev tactical thing there, it only does 10hp so unless it slowed me/blinded me I'm not scared for any reason.

  • @Alias_23
    @Alias_23 Před 4 lety

    This is my tier list
    S tier-Wraith
    A tier-Gibraltar, Pathfinder, Watson
    B tier-Bloodhound,Bangalore,Caustic
    C tier-Lifeline, Crypto
    D tier-Revenant , Octane
    F tier-Mirage
    (With C-Tier and below needing buffs)

  • @1nky02
    @1nky02 Před 4 lety +2

    Bloodhound main btw lol anyone else like him??

    • @strangercreature7802
      @strangercreature7802 Před 4 lety +1

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      500000 kill
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      250000 beast of the hunt kill
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    • @1nky02
      @1nky02 Před 4 lety +1

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    • @1nky02
      @1nky02 Před 4 lety +1

      Nice man 👍

    • @strangercreature7802
      @strangercreature7802 Před 4 lety

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  • @juliangedegodonsenes8954
    @juliangedegodonsenes8954 Před 4 lety +3

    i have a good idea for mirage
    Maybe he can have something to hit an enemy with
    when they are hit it functions like a drug
    that they hear shots or footsteps but nothing is there

  • @minius8514
    @minius8514 Před 4 lety +2

    I thought of a buff to Revenant's Ultimate.
    Instead of going back to the totem, the user, if killed, will respawn to wherever they like in a 70-80 meter range with the location of the death being the epicenter. They spawn with the same health as when you get revived and they have like 10 seconds or so to respawn themselves. The totem will only serve as a way to get the mask and players should have the ability to activate the mask at their own discretion instead of automatically entering upon getting the mask, of course there will be a duration. I also think they should add a reduced damage and/or move speed boost when people enter in shadow form.
    I thought of this as it will players to become more aggressive with it and also explain how Revenant went to shadow mode in the middle of a fight in the launch trailer

  • @2_tennis
    @2_tennis Před 4 lety

    Possible helpful buff for mirage is giving his decoys footsteps also change his ult to that thing in that limited time only dummy mode. Or instead of those two make it so that he can switch with decoys within a certain range

  • @kanayookolie7570
    @kanayookolie7570 Před 4 lety +4

    Honestly thought he was Asian this whole time lol

    • @noidea2338
      @noidea2338 Před 4 lety

      I thought Indian (I know India is in Asia)

  • @Bainkwu
    @Bainkwu Před 4 lety +3

    Respawn buff octane pls! People out here callin my main the worst😔

    • @mrvera4020
      @mrvera4020 Před 4 lety

      Youre not alone

    • @Bainkwu
      @Bainkwu Před 4 lety +1

      @@mrvera4020 😪glad to know others still use him

  • @dionfilippini8482
    @dionfilippini8482 Před 4 lety

    Really like what you said about Bangalore. She's felt like the most underrated character for a while now. Not the best at anything, but 2nd or 3rd best at most important things. Small hotbox, only character with both a movement and damage ability, 2nd safest behind Gibby at reviving, looting, respawning, doing finishes, etc. Great at zoning. Hardest character to snipe while moving. True jack (or Jill) of all trades.

  • @CurbsideT
    @CurbsideT Před 4 lety +1

    I started watching your video when I picked my legend and it finished when we won the game, maybe I should do that more in future

  • @morvid1968
    @morvid1968 Před 4 lety +4

    You look kinds cute
    No homo

  • @Krish-io7ow
    @Krish-io7ow Před 4 lety

    Nobody realizes this but the time it takes for mirages passive to stop working, you can selfrevive more than halfway through. This has come in clutch many times

  • @SnipingMachines
    @SnipingMachines Před 4 lety

    Goodluck to a awesome year ✊

  • @kflaco8961
    @kflaco8961 Před 4 lety +2

    I believe a good buff for Revenant (one of multiple) would be for when he goes into shadow form he can only take 1 bullet and is sent back but he still has full health when he returns to the totem.

    • @ladajzobrinton5025
      @ladajzobrinton5025 Před 4 lety +4

      1 bullet? Makes the ult useless. It's basically taking a quick peek then returning.

    • @TheLMMCProgram
      @TheLMMCProgram Před 4 lety

      @@ladajzobrinton5025 his passive is meant for him to go unnoticed during a flank and his ult is an escape method when he does get spotted.

    • @ladajzobrinton5025
      @ladajzobrinton5025 Před 4 lety

      @@TheLMMCProgram Crouch walking to flank isn't efficient. So I doubt that.

  • @NimaHak3
    @NimaHak3 Před 4 lety +1

    I think they should give Mirage a new passive where he becomes invisible for 3-4 seconds whenever someone shoots his decoy. This way if you bamboozle someone they’ll be marked and you’ll have temporary invisibility for easy flanking and retaliation. It might sound like it but I honestly think it won’t be op. I think it’s just enough to make him viable in pubs

    • @ragnarok2177
      @ragnarok2177 Před 4 lety

      yeah that is a wonderful idea or his passive could be 2 decoys and he can assign them to do something
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  • @metalife2114
    @metalife2114 Před 4 lety

    That was the smoothest product promotion I’ve ever seen 😂 love your videos man

  • @EarthboundinAdrock
    @EarthboundinAdrock Před 4 lety

    Dude we should see more of you you’re great man.

  • @obidonjacoby114
    @obidonjacoby114 Před 4 lety

    For the flashbang for revenants tactical I think blinding/muting pings seems overpowered but I second it. Would definitely make players more cautious when a revenant is around. What about going a step even further to blind the radar of who you silence. So essentially you would be mildly blinding the one player you hit with silence in all ways. This way revenant would be a sure shot intimidating legend to go up against in the right hands.

  • @toxy1858
    @toxy1858 Před 4 lety

    i think that revs ult could just give an extra bar of hit points that when it goes away it turns you into a smoke for a second and in that time you can chose to stay were u at or go back to the totem [or make it into a regular ability and make silenc an ult]

  • @critico8315
    @critico8315 Před 4 lety +2

    Best tier list for season 4 that i’ve seen, raynday put mirage so flipin high in his tier list, totally agree with yours tho

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Před 4 lety

      Hes not as bad as he's made out to be, his Ultimate lets you do alotta aggressive things but people just use it to escape.
      If they reduced the noise you make while cloaked he'd be insane, I already use his ult to get right up behind an enemy player and dump my mag into them, its basically a free kill, but I've never seen anyone else do that.

  • @them3ta_93
    @them3ta_93 Před 4 lety +1

    A buff to lifeline's ult could be that instead of random loot it gives the last thing that each player pinged he needed so each player in the team can get one thing he wants in purple

    • @kylefields3951
      @kylefields3951 Před 4 lety

      Or perhaps you could have the choice to call in a random 3 items, or call in 1 specialised item. ie: Armour, Scope, Phoenix Kit etc

  • @kmorgan7263
    @kmorgan7263 Před 4 lety

    Lifeline is an easy fix, let the drone be used outside the ring for longer before it gets destroyed, have her shield stay up longer after a revive for cover to escape. Or give a mini equivalent of a gold backpack ability for revives. Maybe come back with 1 shield block and a third health.

  • @mauricebottomley7623
    @mauricebottomley7623 Před 4 lety +1

    The Gaming Merchant for Apex balance team! Great content as always!

  • @shinkSquadron
    @shinkSquadron Před 4 lety +1

    Revenant's tactical just stop you from using your skills but doesn't stop the cooldown so maybe that's his buff for the tactical.

  • @joenoriega
    @joenoriega Před 4 lety +1

    I'd definitely put lifeline a little bit up, just because evo shields.

  • @aidancahill9924
    @aidancahill9924 Před 4 lety +1

    I used to be a Lifeline main. I want to use her more but Gibby stole her passive. I hope Respawn removes the fast revives and maybe the fast heals...

  • @hansmalcolmringger2294

    What if the death totem returned you with as much health as you dealt damage (up to 100 of course). Not an unlimited benefit, but it would keep the ult from becoming a complete second chance, while requiring some actual skill to make the most of it. Seems like a cool interaction

  • @jdawg8558
    @jdawg8558 Před 4 lety +1

    I have a concept for mirage and revenant reworks, where they kind of switch some of their abilities. I want to create a niche for both of these characters so that they can be picked up better by players. A definitive role is important for a legend because that's how players learn to play them. For example, Caustic is definitely a camper's best friend, while Octane is definitely designed to be rush heavy.
    Revenant:
    - Passive: Stay the same
    -Tactical: Cloak: Revenant gains invisibility for 10 seconds, he cannot shoot or melee until the 10 seconds is over. Good for traversing enemy territory.
    -Ultimate: Shadowfall: Revenant's team turns into shadows with a press of a button. No totem, no nothing. They can't shoot, but they get increased mobility, health (and shields) and melee damage (more reminiscent of the shadow fall event shadows). Their melee range is also increased and can lock-onto enemies (like the black ops 3 ripper).
    This would fit revenant as a stealth character. He can scout enemy territory by being invisible and eliminate campers quickly by being a shadow. Also remove his low profile perk
    Mirage:
    - Passive: Master's craft: Like Caustic's passive, he is immune to other decoys. He just straight up wont see them. He also gets access to a ping option, where if teammates ping a decoy, he can confirm its fake.
    - Tactical: stay the same, but has 2 charges. In addition to that, the deployed decoy could take the look of mirage's teammates.
    - Ultimate: Meet my fans: Instantly call in 6 decoys (with 100 health) onto the battlefield. The player has to use a device to select where the decoys will appear. Although they behave extremely bot like, they could be deadly in numbers. Their weapons are the Hemlok and Peacekeeper, just like the firing range dummies.
    These new mirage abilities make him a long-range scout. He can scan the area for other decoys, deploy his 6 decoys from afar to eliminate campers and use his tactical as a panic button to repel close-range enemies.
    I hope u like these abilities. Comment down anything i could change. Cheers. :)

    • @alirezagamdomi8
      @alirezagamdomi8 Před 4 lety

      Why didn't you say anything about octane?
      He should be faster!

  • @det7677
    @det7677 Před 4 lety +1

    I dont think alot of people know that ur knockdown shield can block caustics gas cause i keep seeing them just crawling away instead of blocking it

  • @MichaelSmith-tm3iw
    @MichaelSmith-tm3iw Před 4 lety +1

    could you explain how to use bangalore’s ult instead of the portal. sounds really interesting but not sure how to do that?

  • @chillvibes7113
    @chillvibes7113 Před 3 lety

    I think a good idea for mirage is being able to make his decoys look like one of his teammates. For example, he can make it look like his teammate, Wraith, and move it around like any other decoy.

  • @mango5811
    @mango5811 Před 4 lety +1

    i think lifeline needs to be able to like move her shield while resing idk sounds like a good buff

  • @blackpilloverdose1013
    @blackpilloverdose1013 Před 4 lety

    Yooo in the flesh what's up brotha?
    Also I'm so ready for Ranked games. They get crazy and fun . Just yesterday did nothing but Do Rumbles on the train.

  • @denebh733
    @denebh733 Před 4 lety

    Revenants silence ability should make it so in addition to not being able to use your abilities, your teammates dont get any updates from you at all. They dont get the indicator at the bottom left when you take damage or shoot, so you could be on your own, get silenced, and get eliminated and your team wouldn't know until the effect wore off. This would encourage people to stay by their team more, and would make revenant more of that silent assassin type that makes you scared to be by yourself.

  • @them3ta_93
    @them3ta_93 Před 4 lety

    What s funny is that i main path since the very beginning of the game and I was raging a lot of times cause people could shoot me while i was behind trees or rocks then when i came back to the game during s2 i was wondering why everyone played him cause i didnt know they fixed the hitbox

  • @kylebrown7968
    @kylebrown7968 Před 4 lety

    They just need to make revenants ult have a wider range. Itd solve a lot of issues. The circle is so small, if you get pushed by an ulted rev right now, you can just go find the totem. But if it were wider you could do more without the camping.

  • @chuckisaduck1163
    @chuckisaduck1163 Před 4 lety

    I see you are wearing the Watts on and nessie merch very nice

  • @TheLastledbender
    @TheLastledbender Před 4 lety

    I love the innuendos that people come up with when they are sponsored by manscaped

  • @stevetrujillo324
    @stevetrujillo324 Před 4 lety +2

    So no one's gonna talk about the wattson snipes huh?
    Ok fine

  • @casualsanta
    @casualsanta Před 4 lety +2

    Some fix ideas:
    Mirage: make his tactical send out teammate's legends, not just a mirage decoy for better bamboozling opportunities and use the dance party ult from DUMMIE's big day
    Revenant: Fix hitbox, remove low profile, full health post totem, basically the things he mentioned in the video
    Octane: Once again hitbox stuff, but more importantly I got some speed based ideas. Long story short, make him speedy like a ttf2 pilot. Give him a new passive where he has all the advanced movement that a pilot has (but keep hp regen bc it's his biggest strength and he needs it) I’m talking running faster, double jump, and wallrunning for speed boosts (Also something with his ult idk yet but make it less predictable sort of like how you can grab spam on pathy’s zipline).
    Caustic: make friendly traps green or blue instead of red at the base and have them not slow teammates down
    Bloodhound: they just buffed them so idk yet
    Crypto: some form of warning if enemies are near him when he’s in drone so he doesn’t get memed on
    Lifeline: either a. Buff her ult or b. New ult idea from DUMMIE’s big day, an AOE full heal or something along those lines
    Wattson: she aight
    Bangalore: have teammates/self see through smoke more easily, have rolling thunder be more demanding by either making it faster or do more damage
    Gibby: just let lifeline keep ONE of her passives PLEASE you ability thief (get rid of one passive is what I’m saying)
    Pathfinder: the perfect MRVN boye never change
    Wraith: I think people are used to her long tactical cooldown now so i don’t think she needs any changes, maybe hitbox stuff, I honestly don’t know
    P.s. leave ideas in the replies and I’ll revise this list

    • @xXcoolguyXx2011
      @xXcoolguyXx2011 Před 4 lety

      To buff octane watch the video from mokey

    • @xXcoolguyXx2011
      @xXcoolguyXx2011 Před 4 lety

      And remove for both crypto and bloodhound the sonar detected thingy so people won't know that they are beeing scanned, maybe remove the sound of the drone and remove the breathing sound from bloodhound when he uses his ult (these are some idea's)

    • @iforgotoputausername
      @iforgotoputausername Před 4 lety

      Being able to see through the smoke would be op, especially is teammates could too. Imagine shooting smoke into a room full of people and they have no clue where they are and how to get out.

    • @brondog7804
      @brondog7804 Před 4 lety

      Octane just went from the worse to op very quick

  • @Caulculon69
    @Caulculon69 Před 4 lety

    Cool idea for Octane’s jump pad: increase the cool down, but buff it to where it’s more similar to the Geysers in World’s Edge. That way it’s not totally outclassed by Pathfinder’s zipline.