The worst new re-wire I have ever seen.
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2023
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You have definitely acted 100% correctly in my view, it’s precisely what I would have done and the look on your face when realising what had to follow would have been my reaction too. There’s far more at stake than a few nicker, you can soon get over that and forget all about it but knowing you’ve done right and getting to sleep of a night soundly is of far more importance. Thanks for sharing because it’s a reminder to remain scrupulous in the face of these conundrums that we are constantly faced with. 🙏👍🏻
Hi John, thanks for your comments and supporting me in that decision, I do feel really bad for the guy though so I am going back next week to sort it all out, I think it’s terrible that people carry this sort of work out and can sleep at night.
Usually when you see ‘this is the worst I’ve ever seen’ it’s often not THAT bad, but this, this is on another level!! How can anyone leave that mess as if that’s acceptable? You should name and shame whoever did this!! 😡
Unfortunately I don’t know the contractors who carried this out, not to worry it’s al sorted now 👍👍
Well done for walking away. Issue a danger notification. That is what a conscientious spark should do. Don’t alter or add if installation is not fit to be altered. Well done sir.
Thank you, it’s absolutely the correct thing to do
As soon as I walked into that house and saw that I’d walk away wouldn’t even touch anything or put anything new in for them you’d become liable someone will blame you for the rest of it. You did the right thing walking way. I’d issue a certificate and report it and whoever did the work
Thank you 👍
Wow that loft space install looked like what’s above a hospital ceiling…. 🤯
Well done for being brave and honest. You have almost certainly saved a life, or lives. I am an electrical labourer, and that crap in the loft looked truly the stuff of nightmares. Stay alive!
Thank you
@sotaelectrical you litrally don't know what your walking into
@@joanofarc708 tell me about it
@sotaelectrical been there bought the t-shirt sometimes it's better to walkway
@@joanofarc708 sometimes maybe so, but I wanted to help out on this one, they are pensioners so someone has to try
I have left installs behind me, got fed up with coming across substandard work that wasn’t diy, my nephew could have done better and he’s only 6! Been in aerospace manufacturing for almost 10 years now, best thing I ever did! Great to see we still have some good ones left! Love every bit of your cable management dude, smashing job!
Thank you mate 👍👍
Personally I think you made the right choice walking away, your safety is most important. Another great video 🤜🤛
Thank you sir
Omg, I'm shocked that this is something you can face in the UK. Dangerous this much that should be criminal. The electrician who did that re-wiring should be jailed and expelled from the industry.
I agree
I agree also...I have tried to report about 3 sparks for the shite work they done problem is the scheme they were registered with weren't interested
Respect. You did the right thing. Looking forward to seeing how you sort it.
I wish everyone took so much pride in their work!
I absolutely love to see fellow trades that take so much pride in the work they do. We all love to save money on anything we pay for this is Human nature. But spending less on and trade isn't with the risk. This goes for all trades joinery, electric, plumbing, gas and building ect getting the right people to any work is paramount for safety and quality. Too many people that have all the gear but no idea out there. We don't see them on CZcams! Just saying.
Absolutely agree sir 👍👍
Fair play mate. We can see you care and the people who did that will eventually cause harm to others!
Thank you mate 👍👍
When we had a bungalow refurbished and adapted for my disabled brother, it too was re-wired. However, those who did the rewire left all the old cabling in the loft space, which looked just like that tangle. I had to go up there and work out what was new, and what was old, what was live and what was not. It was a complete rats nest. I suspect that something similar happened here and old wiring has been left.
I suspect your right sir, going back next week to sort it all out 👍
I've walked away a few times because my personal standard and pride in my work would not let myself be the last responsible person on site.
We think the same buddy
Same .....done it twice
I started using cable tray in lofts in a H format and its seems to work 😊and helps.
New idea 😂 I had recently 😮.
Great video, the care and attention to detail are the mark of a true craftsman, no wonder you tripped out when you saw that rats nest, to be honest I was surprised when you said you were doing the remedials, make sure you book enough time to it as I have a feeling your going to need it 😊.
Thank you, I feel like I need to do the remedial work, they are really good people and need help so I’m going to do all I can to sort it out.
good to see few brother sparky working away and showing people what we do. subscribed to your channel to show support :)
Thank you bro! Much appreciated 👍👍👊
@@sotaelectrical anytime welcome 😎👌😊
good on you mate thanks for being responsible
You did the right thing.
If you sighed it off would you be liable if anything happened. Eg like fire or electrocution.
Thank you 👍👍
As a spark of 40 years , I wouldn’t be without my knipex croppers and side cutters !! Never had a problem with them and it’s the person USING them NOT THE BRAND !!
Hi mate, yeah I was only joking around about the CK croppers, take me with a pinch of salt, never mean to upset anyone, hope you have a good day!!
@@sotaelectrical No problem sota 👍 back at you 😁
Just came across your channel, awesome video keep it up and hopefully you grow
Any also, I’ve be a qualified electrician for 13 years and have never liked croppers, tried every brand and do not like them
Thank you very much!
Another very good video Adam - and as you say "... brutally honest." Your customer/s may not have liked hearing your opinion/advice, but it will be very valuable to them in the end. It may even save their house from burning down! It's truly shocking (pun intended) that some other supposedly qualified electrician has done the terrible works before you. Thank goodness for electrical regulations and good electricians like you committed to adhering to them and providing customers with safe installations.
Lastly, congratulations on now having more than 1,000 subscribers - you're bring great knowledge and value to electricians and customers alike 👍🙏.
Hi Bob!! Thank you as always for your comments and watching my videos!! And yes finally make the 100k subs!! It’s been a long slog of an effort!! Onwards and upwards!!
Well done..... Absolutely the best decision.... As much as it sucked, by the time you're finished EVERYONE can sleep soundly and safely in their beds..... Kudos 👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️
Thank you 👍👍
in life av always itemised a full job (specification even down to the fixings,) in with the estimate for the job and the customer has always gave me a ring and said thanks for your quote but I have been quoted a cheaper price for the job , I have always said ok and asked so is his spec a cheaper spec , and they reply there is no spec he just said a price for the job, that answers your question no guarantees no warrantees because there's no spec so you have no argument when things go wrong, am pleased am retired oap for quite a few years now and not competing against unskilled am not a electrician but when it came to guarantees I could show people jobs from 30 /40 yr plus which are still holding there ground, am a time served roofer, you must be thorough when carrying out a survey get it wrong and they cut corners, like he said dont know what to do, just walk away or renew, and be careful of the jobs were the customers says he left the job unfinished, dont take the customers word for it, theres 3 answers to the story, the contractors the client and the truth, he seems a canny bloke makes a good job yu only as good as your last job.
What a top man! Bravo sir 👏
Thank you sir
I am so glad that Part P and the Registered competent person scheme set up in in the late 2000s has put paid to shoddy workmanship……oh wait this is a recent post?That about says it alll what we thought at the time,a cash cow 🤬
Holy sh*t! I have been out of the industry for over 20 years and loads of what I saw in that was taboo even then.
Got yourself a spaghetti central there sir, I work as a sparkys mate and any one of the people I work for would fire me on the spot if he saw a CCU like that. Unreal.
Yes I know!! I’m kinda looking forward to putting it right though
Just found your channel, well impressed with this content, you have an other subscriber
Thank you so much, really appreciate your support 👍👍
Was the right thing to do, bet that was a hard conversation to have with the customer but needed and if it was me as the customer would rather it’s done properly and is safe.
It was awkward but as you say, the right thing to do, he’s a happy man now though after I put it right!
At least this time the clients have picked a right-un for the remedial work.
Thank you, yes I’m going to do a proper good job on this one, looking forward to showing the transformation!!
Hi, I just came across your channel and I have subscribed and added you to my list of good honest Sparks, that was one of the worst jobs I have seen in all of my 80 years, yes I'm an old timer, in my young days, we didn't have all the test gear that we have today, so you just had to do it right the first time. Why not ask the house owner who was the moron that did that abomination and report them to the authorities or maybe trading standards, who knows if that is an example of the quality of their work they may have done it somewhere else. Keep up the good work young man.
Regards from Ray in North Wales.
Hi Ray!
Thanks for subscribing to my channel, the support is appreciated!! I know it is a terrible job, unfortunately my client purchased the property that way, all I can do is go back and help!! I will make a video of the remedial works, hope you have a great day 👍👍
You did right. Just see it as a new job you just rewire the whole house correctly dont forget to video and post ( so we can say oh i wouldn't have done it lke that 😂) have fun out their im retired now but still mis the job.
Haha yeah il video it and wait to be told the ‘right way to do it’ after, will do thank you!! Thanks for watching, appreciate your support! Have a good weekend 👍👍
Nice tidy cabling on that EV charger. 👍
Thank you 👍👍
a very good video again adam, just a little reminder not too sure if you realise but ur audio is only going through the left side in earphones/headset. could you possibly fix this on your next videos ?
Hi Jamie, no sorry I did not realise this, il try and find out why this is happening and rectify it on the next video. Sorry about this
God bless the good and caring people of this world that put RIGHT that was WRONG 😊😊😊
You shoulden't use ferrules on class 2 conductor. I'm just saying but really good job
Thank you
Good man you did the right thing on both sides 👍
Thank you, I’m uploading the remedial works tonight, let me know what you think
Firstly top man for being honest with the clients, that exactly how a good customer base is built.
Secondly i would report the previous spark, to their scheme.
Ive walked off a few jobs in my time, I once went to a fresh rewire for circuits tripping back in 2019 (literally signed off 3 weeks prior)and the guys had installed a full mcb board with no rcds just a main switch, no bonding, cables lashed about in the loft, exposed live terminals everywhere and i cant be certain but it looked like they had used second hand plates everywhere as some of them had paint on them. 8kw shower wired in 2.5mm and on a 40 amp breaker.....ive never been so scared for a customer in my life.
But sometimes giving your expert brutality honest opinion is just what they want and makes them appreciate you more.
Thank you for your comments, that job sounds awful!! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend 👍👍
The client should report the company who rewired their house to their Part P respective body, but then again I doubt they are fully qualified let alone Part P
Too dangerous
Doing work using free issue materials can not be guaranteed as you didn't supply it.
You will also be going down the road as there won't be everything there.
New Subscriber here. Not an electrician, but thinking this should have been my calling. Along with Artisan and Oy Electrical and N Bundy which makes highly amusing videos, I have another electricians video to watch and see their techniques in what constitute a good piece of work.
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Plumbing doesn't look a whole lot better than the electrics I've got to say!
Dear sir,
I have been a professional
Electrrician,of 20 years standing ,niw retired early through bad health..
That supposed rewure was quite frankly,downright,discusting and deplorable beyond words,
Well done for doing your best,godbless
Sorry to hear about your bad health, yes it is terrible but I’m going to sort it out, hope you are ok sir, thanks for watching my video!
Wow... No wonder many EV charger installers dont really like tapping into the the consumer unit a limit their risk this way.
Exactly, put in a separate consumer unit and take responsibility for your work and not the existing install
Some people have no shame and no personal pride in there work!
Agreed!!
Just found your channel mate and subscribed.
Not a spark though as dont have a set of CK croppers😂
That comment has proven to be controversial with some feeling hurt🤣🤣
Thank you for subscribing!!!
Had to issue a danger notice a couple weeks ago.
House was wired in 1947 all black rubber still in use. Black wooden wylex DB absolute mess. Some more modern pvc but mainly rubber. It had done well but the rubber was in a bad way.
Well you done the right thing!
hi was this never certifcated could they not go back to the board they where registed with and get them involed i rember some i know having this problem and got the niceic involed and they got it sorted it
It was never certified, the guy just wants it sorted so I’m gonna do just that for him 👍👍
Do You use BG consumer units? All electricians hate them for some reason? I need 2 because I have so many ways. 2 x ev, solar, hvac 2x heat pumps, 8 socket rings etc etc. The consumer units will be mounted above the door so when you come in the wind makes the lids clank like a letter box. BG are the only ones I have found that sell a lockable lid. RCBO its called a BG Fortress I believe. The lockable lids are an after purchase and cost £20 i think. Any suggestions? I saw a Schneider 36 way in 3 rows. very narrow so it would just fit next to the door with mm to spare. the thing is then you walk in and there is a consumer unit at head height rite there and the lids will still jank from the wind of the door and Schneider have no lockable lid option. 2 above the door just seems a better idea to me. I l already ran the tails for a second one now.
Il be honest I only use the bg boards for outside EV installs, otherwise I use a brand called FUSEBOX when I’m doing any other consumer unit works, a quick tip that might help.. stick some foam strip around the lids so when the wind catches them they won’t clang anymore.
Well done be an interesting video.
Thank you 👍
I like your attitude, its only right way to work , need to root out the cowboys, john eastwood MIET
Hi John, agreed!! Let’s root them all out!! 👍👍
No way a sparky would have left such a mess! That was done by a Mr Bodgitt for sure!!
Maybe your right…..
Many wouldn’t have walked away and found a cheap way to earn a quick quid. High respect for waking away dude
Thank you sir, I am going back next week to sort it all out though 👍
@@sotaelectrical Definitely not an easy task all the best matey
@@markhyland1398 thank you 👍👍
@@sotaelectrical have a good day dude 👍
@@markhyland1398 you too buddy!! 👍👍
I’m a sparks for 28 years….never got on with those ck chompers ha ha. Side cutters all the way. Jeez that was a mess in that second one,I’ve had one a few years ago where there was live exposed conductors in the loft. Client didn’t have a clue how bad it was,I had to rectify it all in the end.
Why do you use d line clips if above a plasterboard (fire rated) ceiling?
There is a lot of those installs about unfortunately!! Ahh I’m a CLK chomped man 😂 I use them because there just easy to use, I just like them, thanks for watching my video!
Wow,Thats took some doing to make it look so bad, Issue notice and walk away. I know its difficult to do this but they need to get the electricians?back and make it safe.
It’s all sorted now buddy, I have made a video on the remedial works
That is so bad and so sad for the poor couple who have obviously paid out a lot already for that rewire,surely there must be some sort of ombudsman that these people can approach to get this guy named and shamed and maybe get their money back,you certainly did the right thing,a sparky friend of mine was killed in his 20's in the early 70's because someone used a cpc cable to run a live wire in the loft,he thought it was surplus and cut it with non insulated pliers
That is horrendous!! I can’t believe someone used the CPC in that Mannor!! They are more interested in just getting it all sorted so I’m going to sort it for them this week! Keep an eye out for the video!!
@@sotaelectrical I certainly will,looking forward to it
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Great tip
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Lol jog on then, no one cares about your opinion.
Side cutters …….all day long ….. that’s what experienced electricians use …….😊
Haha yeah I was only joking around, thanks for watching
I feel like clipping it next to that existing cable would have been better than going between the gutter, unless you move that existing thin cable over as well.
Hi Jasper, the client insisted they wanted it there, so I am to please, thanks for watching, appreciate it buddy
@@sotaelectrical ah well, can’t argue with the client too much.
Italian sparkies at it again 🙈😂
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Split load board? Brand new!
Yeah you can still buy split load boards, not that I would install one!!
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Name and shame these people! God knows how many other "rewires" these guys have done. There's one word for that monstrosity, dangerous!
Agreed!! I’m putting it all right today so keep an eye out for the next video!!
nice van , surely a trades person hasn’t done that ?
Can’t be sure!!
Builders must of done the rewire rubbish cabling good luck with 2nd job
Looks like a builders Job doesn’t it, thank you!! 👍
Was this noticed during the initial site visits?
There were no site visits on this one as the job was absolute miles away, just an over the phone discussion, so when I turned up is when I first saw the mess.
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DJ SOTA!! nice to meet you and thank you for subscribing!! So my dad has a company called SOTA Training and I sort of followed in his footsteps with the name also meaning state of the art!! Thanks for watching buddy 👍👍
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I would of done the EV install as requested as you can do that as it should be done to regs then i would of explained the issues with the install and documented it with photo's and emails to cover yourself and then i would of quoted to rectify the issues thats all we can.
That’s fair enough, you would have struggled getting the EV ultra into the consumer unit, I’m uploading the remedials tonight so have a watch and let me know what you think
Your consumer unit doesn’t comply. It is supposed to be fed in double insulated tails not single insulation which it appears to be.
It does comply because they are double insulated
Oh right. Normally grey sheathed. Sorry
@@stevelester1308 that’s ok, I don’t use grey tails normally to be honest, have a good weekend mate
disgusting work, how can someone leave it like that.
I know, shocking
I Don't no anything about electrical stuff other than wire a plug but wow that looks very very tidy that second one Jesus I'd have done a better job and I'm useless so will that have to be reported and then what would happen will the original installers face any action about it?
I think sometimes people just want to move on, it’s all fixed now so everyone’s happy
How do you price up crap like that, no doubt if you see that on view, what’s there that you can’t see until you start doing your testing.
It’s difficult to price so i have provided an estimate and it may expand
There's crap installers and then there are life threatening installations - neither are good for the business, but one should be a criminal offence.
Isn't it (or if not it should be) a requirement that installations of such poor quality be reported to either NICEIC or NAPIT (whichever body the previous installer was registered with). I know NAPIT offer "Efficacy Insurance" but I think this is optional and should instead be mandatory as part of the trade body membership fee. As the consumer I would be reporting that installer immediately and claiming against the insurance (if it exists). Sadly I know from personal experience NAPIT are about as much use as a chocolate toothbrush when it comes to consumers, I "think" NICEIC are better.....
Unfortunately it was carried out during the previous owners occupancy and there is no certification, the only thing to do and what I’m doing is going back next week to sort it all out, thanks for watching my video buddy!! 👍👍
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Just get on with it scared of hard work pal and left the house vulnerable 😢😢
Scared of hard work?? Lol, I fixed all of it. I didn’t leave the house vulnerable, the previous spark did.
I’m a big fan but change your footwear and socks please please !!! I just laugh when they are in shot
lol ok il make an effort to
@@sotaelectrical even so your the best spark on YT
@@smoggydrones5664 that’s very nice of you to say!! Thank you sir 🤝
Surely that’s what Limitations and the extent of the work carried out are there for? Otherwise every domestic place would be un-satisfactory/walked away from … right 🤷🏼♀️
There was absolutely no way I could terminate another circuit into that consumer unit without ripping it apart which I did not have the time for that day. I couldn’t show everything that was unsafe in that video because it was just awkward but I’m going back to fix it next week and the property will be vacant so can show more.
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@12:43 is the board, the rest of the video old mate is just waffling on. If that's the worst you've seen by licence trades you haven't been in the game long enough haha
Sorry you didn’t really like the video, it’s not the worst I have ever seen and Ive been in the game nearly 20 years. Have a good weekend
@@sotaelectrical Must be a UK thing; Here in Australia I have to deal with worse installs than that. I'd rather not waffle on in my videos and get straight to point.
@@TradieTrev I’ve not come across your channel before, il check it out!! Well we all have different personalities, hope the weather is good there, it’s as expected here.. awful British summer.
@@sotaelectrical Whatever sells your company and the very specific niche line of work you do isn't great upon the whole concept of our trade to earn income IMHO.
@@TradieTrev Yep, moaning is very much a "British thing" (it verges on a national sport). Aussies, Irish and Americans are much more "roll up your sleeves and get stuck in there".
The wiring is in a poor state, but it's good to see the client has agreed to get it fixed!
An apprentice could have done a better job of a re-wire.
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That install is like an onion the more you peel the more you will find wrong .. I used to Alarm installs and repairs and some of the cabling was just shocking ,, People taking shortcuts instead of doing a run with the cable hidden taking the easy way with it running in plain sight .. Kitchen installers are the worse in my book I have seen more crap sockets and cooker installs to last a life time
You did the right thing it's better to be sat than sorry have a look at Artisan Electrics - WORST DIY ELECTRICS I'VE EVER SEEN! 🤯 he made the right choice , you don't want a death or fire on your conscious.
I’m going back next week to carry out the remedial works, I want to go back and fix it
I reckon you did all that mess haha just so then you can do this video and the next one to sort it out and you get the views hahahah that would be jokes if you did still
Cant see the problem ...its a shit job ...look at it has a chalenge and put it right ..wont be the last time it happens💪
Hi mate, yes I agree, I’m going back there next week to sort it all out, thanks for watching my video!! 👍👊✌️💪
No need for all the amateur dramatics and faces in van, either put it right or walk away...
Thanks for your input 👍
Run away
Quick!!
Jump in the van and leave that job
U really shouldn't have walked away
I had to, not enough time to fix it there and then, I’m going back next week to sort it all out
💯 walk away - and still charge for your time . Not the nans faukt others have completely destroyed the electrical installation and left !
@@dannythegreat453 thank you for the support buddy!! 👍👍✌️
Just make it safe befor u leave
You can’t make that safe in a few hours, too much to do
……you mean work for free?
I whould have discontinued what I could and make it safe not just walked away
English is your first language I assume? If so learn the basics of English and learn the difference between To and Too. Your caption should read:
‘Too dangerous to work on’
we here in ol Blighty are used 'too' that standard of English
Hi Jack sorry for the spelling error, no one’s perfect we all make mistakes, thanks for the lecture though, much appreciated
Jackd......Does the D in your name stand for Dickhead?
Got you to comment, so it did its job.
@@JasperJanssen hook line and sinker
Nice video 🔥
Thank you