If you sub 1 monk for 1 wizard you can pick up quickend spell with the wizard bonus spell slot. and can maneuver things to be a dodge tank for r10 which works pretty well.
I like that. I’d have to look back and see if the feats worked out to still be able to grab your 18 monk stance with having to grab the 2nd level one now too. But I do like it. In all, if you had to stop at the level 12 monk stance it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
@@bryyoh2892 I like the idea. I believe you would lose evasion, which I naturally am a fan of. But I think you’d have the hit points to live without it.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1foy5tUM8kQmwJRWqlQ_Gs-YBw4LrHWnfA7P1SGY6BUU/edit?usp=sharing I moved some of my sheets to a google doc instead to share the link. Let me know if it works.
@@hellsewn5354 past lives doesn't mean anything at cap level 30 at the time i did r10s without any past lives and i was using iconic level 15 gear... also your tank sucks ngl low hp,low ac,low prr,low mrr,low con my tank has 6800hp 450prr 250mrr 412AC 100 con pure paladin fortitude save is at 135 reflex 98 will 94 400 fortification
@@austinburtt9640 and your Pure paladin tank was a Sacred fist monk style tank? I replied to his comment about AC and past lives because Martial Epic lives do quite a bit for AC. I did this build as an alternate Tanking style. I would assume anyone would know that doing a classic tank with a shield would be able to produce better tank statistics...
@@hellsewn5354 yes i am a SF style but i dump all my dps, pick up shield i have a 6% dodge but even then that doesn't matter cause i have a 10% incorp and a 20% displacement clicky from lgs
I am on Thelanis. I definitely think there is room for some more offense than my build shows. I tried to get as tanky as I could. I’m sure there is a happy middle ground between tanky and damage for SF.
I imagine so. If you have already fixed the alignment issue. I have heard that having monk levels on Razorclaw messes up the animation, but I haven't tested that myself. I think if the animation works that could be a step to a middle ground of being more of a tank/bruiser that can do damage as well instead of a pure tank. Obviously the "shift" rage wouldn't work with the SaD stance on.
@@hellsewn5354 The animations; that is my main concern. RC animations are better even with WW (and seem faster with haste). And dumped shifter rage for SD benefits
Hey i was already planning a build with sf 18 Monk, Its going to be tank too, but using ki spells to do damage, and taking all ki regen i can get and melee Power. Its still on planning board. So i still not sure If fire lore, force ou radiance lore Works for ki spells? Not sure too If 4 ki regen is enough to have ki to cast those 2 ki spells every 4 seconds. Other thing is epic destiny fatesinger does reduce the ki cost, since Its not saying spell cost? Another question is If i have enough ki, i could get cooldown reduced for those ki spells with arcane alacrity? Last one is If i take draconic mantle, the extra damage would Work with melee Power as the ki spells, or only spellpower?
A lot of questions there. I am not sure of some of them. The ones I think I have an answer to below: -Ki regen, I felt at end game if you have a enhanced ki +3 item (on hit extra ki) I never would never be low on ki. -I would imagine the ki spells get reduced with arcane alacrity because you have to take them as paladin spells. -Draconic mantle I believe would go off of spell power, not melee power. The other questions I am unsure of. But I like the creative direction that you're going. Let me know how it works out.
@@hellsewn5354 i have made the build. CON based, not cha, since ki spells dont need spell dc. ki regen works, is nice, but i still needed to fight melee to get some extra ki back. tested on all spell lore, all of those works, and are very needed. ill change to fvs 1 or 2 since i can get magic training = 5%crit on spells, and some more 4% force/light/fire crit tested all epic destiny mantles, some only works with spellpower, but the ones that add pure damage to the spell was working with melee power, like draconic. This one made sure i can get ki spells to another level on damage. ki explosion has exactly same damage as incineratiing wave, its expensive, small aoe compared, and not instant yet.
I believe the MRR cap does work with hand wraps as I was at 100. (50 base + 40 nystuls + 10 TWD) I am not sure about the rest of the bonuses but the MRR cap is the reason I took the feat.
@@hellsewn5354 That could be. I never did try it for the MRR cap. You should look at an Mind and Matter ring set from LVoD. I not sure if you could make work with a 7pc Winter though.
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Looks interesting
Cool to see inovative ideas ! Can't wait for the gameplay video. Btw do you have a discord channel for build discussion?
I do not, yet. Love the idea. Will create one and share link.
just started my first sf very fun running through low levels despite the lack of damage and squishy but i enjoy the animations
Solid video Noise in the background makes it hard to concentrate but my skill isnt very high anyways.
could you make a video installing and configuring the Dungeon Helper? I've been trying to install it for months but I can't
If you sub 1 monk for 1 wizard you can pick up quickend spell with the wizard bonus spell slot. and can maneuver things to be a dodge tank for r10 which works pretty well.
I like that. I’d have to look back and see if the feats worked out to still be able to grab your 18 monk stance with having to grab the 2nd level one now too. But I do like it. In all, if you had to stop at the level 12 monk stance it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
@@hellsewn5354 Checked my builder file, I took grandmaster of forms at 24, so you could run the same thing just subbing out epic toughness
@@bryyoh2892 I like the idea. I believe you would lose evasion, which I naturally am a fan of. But I think you’d have the hit points to live without it.
@@hellsewn5354 Coming across this pretty late, but Sacred Fist gets evasion at level 2. So you don't need evasion from Monk.
Have you posted a link to the builder sheet? I'm going to double check what I have for gear and give this a try next life. Thanks
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1foy5tUM8kQmwJRWqlQ_Gs-YBw4LrHWnfA7P1SGY6BUU/edit?usp=sharing
I moved some of my sheets to a google doc instead to share the link. Let me know if it works.
appreciated
Here I was feeling goated as my Paladin when I hit 65 AC at lvl 20. 😭 You got like 4K more hp than me. Wild. So much to learn I guess
Having past lives goes a long way too. My build was only made with the intention of tanking. So besides tanky stats and HP I did not focus much else.
@@hellsewn5354 past lives doesn't mean anything at cap level 30 at the time i did r10s without any past lives and i was using iconic level 15 gear... also your tank sucks ngl low hp,low ac,low prr,low mrr,low con my tank has 6800hp 450prr 250mrr 412AC 100 con pure paladin fortitude save is at 135 reflex 98 will 94 400 fortification
@@austinburtt9640 and your Pure paladin tank was a Sacred fist monk style tank? I replied to his comment about AC and past lives because Martial Epic lives do quite a bit for AC.
I did this build as an alternate Tanking style. I would assume anyone would know that doing a classic tank with a shield would be able to produce better tank statistics...
@@hellsewn5354 yes i am a SF style but i dump all my dps, pick up shield i have a 6% dodge but even then that doesn't matter cause i have a 10% incorp and a 20% displacement clicky from lgs
What server are you on? My main is SF, I tank R10 and also DPS is not bad at all. Thulsadoom of Khyber
I am on Thelanis. I definitely think there is room for some more offense than my build shows. I tried to get as tanky as I could. I’m sure there is a happy middle ground between tanky and damage for SF.
@@hellsewn5354 best advice dump damage you don't need it, all you need is hp and defense that's it
Can something like this work as a RazorClaw Shift. Already did the alignment switch to lawfull.
I imagine so. If you have already fixed the alignment issue. I have heard that having monk levels on Razorclaw messes up the animation, but I haven't tested that myself.
I think if the animation works that could be a step to a middle ground of being more of a tank/bruiser that can do damage as well instead of a pure tank.
Obviously the "shift" rage wouldn't work with the SaD stance on.
@@hellsewn5354 The animations; that is my main concern. RC animations are better even with WW (and seem faster with haste). And dumped shifter rage for SD benefits
Hey i was already planning a build with sf 18 Monk, Its going to be tank too, but using ki spells to do damage, and taking all ki regen i can get and melee Power.
Its still on planning board. So i still not sure If fire lore, force ou radiance lore Works for ki spells? Not sure too If 4 ki regen is enough to have ki to cast those 2 ki spells every 4 seconds.
Other thing is epic destiny fatesinger does reduce the ki cost, since Its not saying spell cost?
Another question is If i have enough ki, i could get cooldown reduced for those ki spells with arcane alacrity?
Last one is If i take draconic mantle, the extra damage would Work with melee Power as the ki spells, or only spellpower?
A lot of questions there. I am not sure of some of them. The ones I think I have an answer to below:
-Ki regen, I felt at end game if you have a enhanced ki +3 item (on hit extra ki) I never would never be low on ki.
-I would imagine the ki spells get reduced with arcane alacrity because you have to take them as paladin spells.
-Draconic mantle I believe would go off of spell power, not melee power.
The other questions I am unsure of. But I like the creative direction that you're going. Let me know how it works out.
@@hellsewn5354 i have made the build. CON based, not cha, since ki spells dont need spell dc.
ki regen works, is nice, but i still needed to fight melee to get some extra ki back.
tested on all spell lore, all of those works, and are very needed.
ill change to fvs 1 or 2 since i can get magic training = 5%crit on spells, and some more 4% force/light/fire crit
tested all epic destiny mantles, some only works with spellpower, but the ones that add pure damage to the spell was working with melee power, like draconic. This one made sure i can get ki spells to another level on damage.
ki explosion has exactly same damage as incineratiing wave, its expensive, small aoe compared, and not instant yet.
You had Two Weapon Defense on your spreadsheet?
Unless the changed something recently, TWD does not work with handwraps.
I believe the MRR cap does work with hand wraps as I was at 100. (50 base + 40 nystuls + 10 TWD) I am not sure about the rest of the bonuses but the MRR cap is the reason I took the feat.
@@hellsewn5354 That could be. I never did try it for the MRR cap. You should look at an Mind and Matter ring set from LVoD. I not sure if you could make work with a 7pc Winter though.
@@evilemperor5325 I did! That was on my list of ideas originally on the spreadsheet. I just couldn’t figure out how to work it in.
My SF became Sacred Daggers… used Vistani
@@roguedexx938 my very first thought when they announced SF was daggers. I’ve seen a good amount of SF daggers build.