CrossFit Games Clean Ladder | Olympic Lifting Coach REACTS!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 3. 07. 2024
- 2021 CrossFit Games Clean Ladder and Olympic Lifting Coach Dane Miller reacts to olympic weightlifting technique of the world's best crossfitters. How does their clean technique stack up with actual weightlifters?
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0:30 Who is Dane Miller?
1:35 CrossFit Clean Ladder Reaction
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can you get one of your athletes to attempt this and show us the results?
improving running technique, improving lifting technique, improving muscleup technique, improving handstand walking technique, improving swimming technique... the list goes on. it's easy to say they could benefit from each one of those, but the thing is, they would have to improve ALL of those. These girls and guys also only have 7 days in a week and human recovery capacities. They probably shoot for "good enough" most of the time, because they are by definition not specialists.
I was going to comment exactly this! Well said.
The thing with crossfit is athletes aim for good at everything, not specialize in a specific one. They are excellent all-around athletes. Personally, I would prefer to be decent in everything than excel in one but suck at everything else
How do they find the time when they have to train running half/full marathons and long distance swimming. Definitely look well oiled.
@@celinelabonte3035 I am a former martial arts competitor and started CF two years ago after switching to a coach who also owns a CF gym. I was basically bad at everything. The thing with CF is, that a lot of basic fitness elements need to be executed in a very spcific way or else it is a no rep. This sport ist extremely hard on the body and a lot of Crossfitters donÂŽt really enjoy it.
That hanstand walking, I find it unnecessary. It is not like something you would use in any activities. They should better switch it with climbing or something else.
Feels good to hear your appreciation for Crossfit as a sport. The feedback is always appreciated, especially technically. This video was particularly impressive and enjoyable, thank you!
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Love your analysis. About the 500m sprint, though, the athletes DID run a 500m sprint in these games and the announcers pointed out is was an unusual distance and likely not trained.
I believe he was saying that nobody can sprint for a full 500m, in the same way you cant sprint 26 miles.
You can run it really fast, but not sprint it.
This is exactly what i want, an Olympic Lifting coach reacts to CF, this is the bestđ
This was fascinating. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another thing to consider is that this was Event 7 out of 15. Fatigue from earlier events got a few of these ladies, but obviously not some of the top finishers. I loved your insights as a coach! Very cool ideas around training.
Along the lines of the CrossFit games, you should also check out the heavy snatches event they did as well.
On it. Will go out in the next few weeks đ
The thing with Haley Adams is that the first bar for that ladder is quite literally her max. She is well known to struggle in the strength events because her maxes are so low compared to other people. Every year she is in she is one of the first out when it comes to the heavy lifting and she ends up standing there like that.
Yeah, I really like Haley but her lifting technique is horrible and I donÂŽt understand why her coaches donÂŽt want to work with an OLY coach to improve her lifting.
Yeah itâs pretty comical at this point.
I think a lot of the bad CrossFit rep is from certain CrossFitters having an attitude of superiority. Some think theyâre the greatest athletes on earth and can excel in any sport.
TBF, that's what they have been sold for ages. I'm not defending CF (I'm not a fan and that's a huge euphemism), but if the higher ups hadn't been feeding the general practicionners with this BS, it would not be so widespread...I think it is getting better, the CF games themselves being a case in point when some editions expose the limitations (who remembers the first time they put peg boards or swimming? lol).
Which cross fitters? No war here, just interested in who you think is snooty, and why.
@@liz9147 Iâve seen a few documentaries and in house videos, where instructiors and athletes were making pretty grand claims in the past.
@@liz9147 back in the days, CF's narrative was literally saying it makes you good at ANY sports, and was called "the sport of sports". I've seen many CFers come to my boxing gym totally sure they'd crush it because they do metcons all the time...turns out, each sports has specific demands, and while it's important to have GPP, when you don't practice something specifically, well, don't expect to be better at it than those who do. It is common sense, but it wasn't in CF for a long time. I believe they softened their stance on that. Again, when in the very CF games they introduced things like biking, swimming, peg boards etc. it became glaringly obvious. I have a couple friends who own CF gyms, and after these games, they all had peg boards in there (which are collecting dust now lol). I'm not knocking on CF, it brought many people to fitness, it has some unique things it does right, it put a barbell in the hands of people who may never have touched one. It's been real positive, but it doesn't make you good at everything lol.
@@anthonymarconi761 couldnât agree more. Itâs very easy for people to collapse together CF the methodology vs the CF the sport (the annual games), and to to be fair to CrossFit Inc they have been trying to explain the difference to the CF masses for years. What goes on in CF gyms is GPP, not sport-specific, as your boxing friend found out, but tbf he was probably less crushed than if he hadnât done CF (or anything), and Iâm sure he found some respect pretty quickly. Literally part of the CF creed is âRegularly learn and play new sportsâ. Iâm sure there are people in lots of sports who have used CF to supplement their own specific training, but itâs certainly not necessary to do so.
I havent even watched the video and I already this is going to be a good oneđđđż
Hope you liked it!
Totally agree on the announcers, but the games event 3 this year was 550 yard sprint. I think heâs referring back to that.
Gotcha. Thanks for the heads up đȘ
@@GarageStrength watch the event and focus on the cameraman, running at the same speed like those athletes while holding a camera. And nor only once but multiple heats. That guy made my day!
Gotta love those anaerobic power muscle movements...
Something else cool about this too is that they're using Rogue short bars which changes the lift a little bit
In regards to Haley. That was event 7; basically a repeat of event 6 but with higher weights.
She finished most if not all of 6, but the last weight was near her max pr. So by event 7 she was done weight wise.
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Big pointer with the running, as well as lifting. Like you practice to become more efficient, sparing energy in each, and you notice that you have more reserves left for the last ones. It's like you don't want to be the most powerful in all of it, but most efficient.
I also never knew that being born in Finland improved my endurance. My regular relaxation is apparently endurance training.
Pretty ingenious actually. Create a competition specifically for what you are selling. Which is crossfit.
Yeah, shitty products need elaborate sales pitches.
Crossfit is a pile of manure.
@@judowrestlerka lol indeed
I think my strongest movement is running but damn does my running form really break down under fatigue in a METCON. Often it will be difficult to even shuffle my legs, let alone go quickly or maintain solid form.
Do you have a video on power clean technique ?
One of the events at the games this year was a 500m sprint⊠thats why they said that
You mentioned they lacked running form and should seek 800m coach.
Tia was an 800m runner in HS regional level or provincial level I believe.
This video likely served its purpose = views/clicks.
And Youâve got some really good perspectives in general. But itâs also very apparent youâve never coached anyone who is competitive in CrossFit. Just making a lot of guesses on what training would be effective and also guessing how to properly strategize at an event
100%
Would it matter? It's a dogshit sport that goes for quantity over quality.
Anaerobic muscle power movement, ok i learned a new phrase
This ones gonna be good đđđ
Hope you like it!
Tommy Marquez (the commentator) referred to a 500m sprint because event 3, on day 1, was a 500m sprint.
Damn. Some of those lifts their knees almost whacked each other lol
Dane you got any tips for weightlifting without a coach? I'm a former hammer thrower now doing weightlifting as a hobby and there isn't a coach within 100 mile range literally lol
Online coaching
Iâve been really enjoying feeling that load on my chest.
I agree, as a runner, its always a little funny watching crossfitters do running portions
He said 500m sprint because there was a 550 yard sprint event at the games prior to this event
Calling a 500m run a sprint is silly.
If you haven't already, you should look at the Snatch event from day 3. The Brazilian kid's technique at least to me was smooth as hell.
I would like to meet these high school girls that think 220 pounds is, as you say, âlight weightâand I donât mean just your one or two amazing athletes. You make it sound like itâs just general strength for your High school kids. Iâm very interested in you making a video on this. Iâm sure every high school coach would be interested in this đ€
I didn't hear that as sounding like every high school girl can or does clean that. It sounded like he's saying it's not some unheard of feat of strength for a high school girl to do it, therefore someone competing for 100k+ and the name "fittest on earth" could be expected to handle it reasonably well
@@phil245 but he didnât say that. His tone and expression and comments were more along the lines of; âmy teens can lift more than these games athletes.â I thought he was going to analyze their form, not be arrogant and insulting. Just saying.
@@Corinna-Mom it's not arrogant to know benchmarks of high weights and low weights. A lot of the guys in the heat power clean the second to last last bar on the ladder easily. It's just an observation that an elite athlete should be able to hit those numbers fairly easily. And it's true because most of them crush the last bar anyway.
@@sscswimmer1 I feel as though you misunderstood what Iâm saying. I never said knowing benchmarks is being arrogant. I wasnât even talking about benchmarks. It was more of a reaction to his commentary to these girls lifts and that his lighter weight, high school girls can easily out-lift these CrossFit women. Did you watch the video?
@@Corinna-Mom he did not say his high school athletes are better than them. What he did say is that his athletes are perhaps better than the weights on the bar in the event. The women and men competing in the event should handle this weight really easily because the weights are doable by his high school athletes too. That's both true and also not a slight towards anyone competing.
If the event was indeed a max clean and he said his hs kids could win the event easily, yeah that's probably a slight. But in this scenario it's more about putting perspective to the event and saying "these athletes should be way stronger than what they're cleaning here, so they're not necessarily maxing out on this weight"
react the snatch event!!!
For a natural woman 75kg to clean 120kg.... ultra ultra rare mate. Maybe in Olympic lifting it's more common but even strong natural girls usually lack the back to pull weights close to 315.
Your confusing "clean" & "CrossFit" there's your mistake đ€Ł
they should definitely switch up the commentators
Lift and plod
Exactly what it looks like
Love your videos, hate your video format. Do the reverse, you small, lifts big :P Keep up the good work!
Unfortunately Haley is incredibly weak in the oly lifts. Not sure why she doesnât make this a priority in her training. She has great endurance for the cardio work, but if thereâs a barbell involved, itâs gonna be a grinder.
The thing is , she is a great cross fitter and oly is only a small part is CrossFit , if she makes that a priority she will loose what makes her great crossfiter , so she can be decent at that but not make that he priority , is my opinion, look how many are strong but the do well in one o two events
@@andymo5425 but if she consistently underperforms in a part of the event, she is more likely to benefit overall from bringing up a weakpoint than polishing areas where she's allready better than most of her competitors. Isnt strength a core part of fitness?
She wasnât hurt. Hailey Adams isnât as strong as the other women
Anaerobic muscle power movement đ€Ł
I read this as they literally said it đđđđ
In short, crossfit by design is about quantity not quality
Easy to say when your not on the floor
See you at the games next year to show everyone perfect form in a competition... You nobody.
Running in lifters may hinder the technique. Crossfit haters have one very big commonality. They have never done it.
i have done it & i still think its stupid. literally just self torture no fun at all, i stick to weightlifting
@@josecarrera6519 Good for you. There is an undeniable comfort from within the box. Growth only occurs outside of said box however. Maybe you were not at a CrossFit gym that was a good fit for you. Just be more open minded and life will have more for you. God bless
Nothing here says that he hates it though lol you're reaching.
@@mattpeters6224 you should take your own advice and be open to other peoples opinions
"Be more open minded" đ€š
@@pauldavies7251 I give advice to no one. What do you know? Nothing of what you speak here.
It's just called weightlifting, not Olympic lifting.
blame the algorithm lol
It is unfortunate that if you say "Weightlifting" people think that curling a 2kg dumbbell qualifies. Olympic Lifting alerts the casuals that it is referring to something other than random activities with weights. The term is probably here to stay.
Interesting video XD But I appreciate it. Crossfit can be cool kinda like this, but Idk.
It gets a bad rep, but I think there are aspects that especially Olympic Sports can use to better market themselves
You coach actual world class athletes and you are giving these competitive exercisers WAY TOO MUCH credit.
From what I saw they have terrible running form gassing out on that small sprint and terrible lifting form.
What do I know your the expert.
This event is so dumb tbh.
Your comment about their poor running form reflects why I think its a joke they call themselves the fittest man alive. I knew a 225 pound former ERT (SWAT) guy who could run a sub 8 minute 1.5 run followed by over 60 strict pushup and 20 pull ups. He was a former special forces guy. I've met other special forces guys who ruck march with 130 pound bags for 5 km. While carrying a gun, wearing body armour in fatigues. Dont get me wrong they are fit and strong but Damian Warner would blow them out of the water
And Justin Medeiros/Patrick Vellner/Brent Fikowski would blow Damian Warner out of the water in any Crossfit specific competition. BTW, Novak Djokovic would blow all of the above out of the water on a tennis court.
What was your point again?
@@mikeg5372 uhh that they label themselves the fittest man alive?
@@canadiancontent352 The athletes themselves donât necessarily do that. Itâs just CrossFit Inc. showing its USofA origins. Like US media labeling the NFL champs as the World champions, or the WORLD champion Milwaukee Bucks, the WORLD series, etc.
If you have footage of Tia, Annie, Katrin, ⊠or even Matt saying that, please share.
Sounds more like you knew a guy from band camp. I knew a guyâŠ..I knew a guyâŠ..
Come on man at least make your lies believable. 225 pound dudes VERY rarely are able to run a sub 9 mile and a half let alone a sub 8 or 20 strict pull-ups. If youâd cited 2 of these 3 Iâd believe you but no way the same dude is doing all 3
Bad announcers undervalue many sports.
Hey buddy, this video is quite weird. You state that you can turn people into beasts but you consider this event an "Endurance event"? You talk about "Efficient running technique" without understanding or at least knowing well enough the athletes to see whether their manipulating their running technique in order to improve their performance. You really consider their event to produce severe aerobic fatigue? Not a troll here, just wondering how much these statement underline your knowledge as a CrossFit coach.
CrossFit women are built like tonka trucks lmfao, imo.
What a stupid and dangeorus event. You don't try and make a technical lift into part of a running circuit.
Garage strength guy is talking as if these guys/girls donÂŽt already have a training plan or use periodisation. ItÂŽs like watching a high jump specialist complain that the decahletes should be able to jump higher, if only they would do much more tranferable strenght training and focus more on the high jump...
Crossfit is CRAP
Cross fit is a joke
1st, loved watching this and your other material. Just to punch in on the 500, it is run but it's one of those rarely competed events at the pro level. Indoor has weird distances, you'll see it there alot. For t&f nerds, it's a compelling event to see 400 and 800 guys meeting in the same event. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_metres