HOBIE PA 360 Every Issue I've Experienced in this Fishing Kayak
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- EVERY ISSUE I'VE EXPERIENCED WITH THE HOBIE PA 14 360 FISHING KAYAK!
I purchased my Hobie Pro Angler 360 Fishing kayak in late December of 2019. Since purchasing this kayak I have experienced some major issues that have kept me off the water for more than 4 months out of the last 14 months.
When my Hobie PA 360 is working it is a phenomenal boat and I have nothing but good things to say about it, However since owning this Hobie PA 14 it has become extremely unreliable causing me to have to cancel booked charter trips and miss out on upcoming tournaments.
There are several fishing kayaks on the market and the Hobie PA 360 out produces all of them while it is operational but the simple fact that it is not reliable makes it hard to stay with this kayak.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens czcams.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
What the heck are you talking about lol
Brutally honest! I feel like I owe you a steak dinner after this. The temptation to excel above and beyond one's competition in business is often ruthless and leads to many innovations- most of which have never been adequately tested before they are sold to the public. Your experience is proof positive of this or so it seems- they're just isn't any other explanation other than the product itself isn't reliable.
I was seriously considering selling my loaded 4 year old PA and updating to the 360. After watching this, I think I'll stay with the 180 albeit updating to the unit that kicks the fins upright when hitting an obstacle.
I don't want to bash Hobie either, but these type of reviews are an absolute necessity and I seriously applaud you for sharing your first hand experience with this new kayak. Considering the astronomical increase in pricing for this boat, these type of reviews make Hobie look really bad- and they should, to keep these very profitable companies accountable.
Have you ever noticed when companies want you to review their products or services? It's almost immediately after the sale and for this reason- rarely will a person ever have an immediate issue with a new product or service. So far this is the only new Hobie review I've watched after owning it for over a year. I would love to hear (good or bad) of other's new Hobie experiences as well.
Thank You again for your willingness to suffer for the rest of us considering buying this new product. I called Hobie last week about an issue on my kayak and I could easily discern the guy was really stressing out and I think I know why. We'll see if they have the guts to recall them or just keep praising what will amount to an inevitable failure.
4 failures in 14 months! Yes, that's entirely unacceptable.
Thanks for sharing. Too many moving parts equates to many potential points of failures. I love my hobie, but 360 is not for me. Props to Hobie for standing behind the product and warranty. Hopefully they can get these issues resolved in the next version.
I bought a used 2020 360 PA 14. I’ve taken it out to saltwater a twice and about a dozen times on freshwater. Compared to the 2021 PA 14 Mirage 180, I say the 360 drive is definitely more sensitive in general. Going over lily pads, something always gets caught up in there. When using the 360 ability while simultaneously pedaling, you can definitely feel an increase in tension on the turn handle. I just take it easy and usually stop pedaling for a second to start the handle turn. Otherwise it feels as if you’re putting a lot of stress on that turn handle. I will also say that even with all that, the 360 has a lot more Pros that the mirage 180 kick up drive. It’s not as if the mirage 180 is perfect either. It has its issues sometimes when changing from forward to reverse. Most of all I hate the lack of control in a 180 vs a 360. Just my two cents. Hopefully it saves someone the time and money of buying a 360 after owning a 180
Sorry for the pain you had to go thru! Thanks for the heads up about the issues. Great honest vid!!
I almost bought one of those PA 360's but, the sticker shock price here in Japan turned me away. I would check out a "Old Town Sportsman line of Kayaks"
They have a lifetime hull warranty that can't be beat. Pedal or electric with spot lock tech. Proven tournament ready.
Had my PA 14 360 since early NOV 2020 and have had no issues so far. I just make sure to wash it down well after salt use (which is 90% of the time) and make sure to oil the drive really well. I work crazy hours so sometimes i get it out 2x or 3x a week and sometimes i dont take it out at all for a week or two. over all i have logged well over 100 hours in the seat and so far so good. I agree about the mold possibly being off. if something is off a bit it is going to effect everything else via rubbing or strain.
First, i appreciate your honesty and I am old school when it comes to buying new things. I usually wait for a few years for any issues to be found by owners and have the company resolve the issues. Second, like you said, you use the heck out of it and for that price, i would use the heck out it too. Some people that are not having any issues are the ones that use it twice a week and never put it thru the test. I have a 2020 outback and a 2020 PA14 so im not biased as to any one model. There is nothing worse than to be stuck out in deep water when your drive goes out on you. Thankfully I have a Bixby trolling motor as a backup :) Anyways, keep up the good work with your reviews. maybe one day i will pull the trigger and get a 360 but as of now, the two colors does not do me justice.
I have been fishing tournaments out of my 360 since January 2020 and have never had a single problem out of it. I don't put it in saltwater though because that causes all kinds of problems. I'm not sure what's going on with yours but I can assure you they don't all have that issue. Hope you get everything resolved.
Never thought about salt water and it is hard on stuff 😕 but you'd think Hobbie would of thought of that also at the get go
@@michaelgraf4274 saltwater's not the problem. Hobie's been around the saltwater block too long to build something non-salt resistant.
Wow... Hobie should have given you a medal for finding all those bugs in their system.
First generation of anything is usually problematic
I want a peddle drive with multiple gears
I think the 360 is the best kayak out here!!!! I have one and have had some of the same issues bearing fall out new drive belt break twice my 360 is down now for the belt because they have ran out and on backorder and my dealer told HOBIE don’t know when they will come in. My dealer let my try a new 2021 PA 14 with the 180 drive, it night and day difference when you have to bend down and pull a handle to go in reverse and pull again to go forward and you have time or space to may the turn then you know what a 360 is all about. Once you’ve been a 360 NOTHING WILL FIT. Maybe one of those spot lock trolling motors but I don’t think so. As long as mine is under warranty I’m going to stick it out because I love mine but I feel you and thank you for this video because my dealer said on this belt break you must be kinda ruff to keep breaking these belts this 2021 PA 14 may be the best for you. I said NO I want my 360 back!!!!!! Thanks sorry for the rant!!!!
If every happy 360 owner took the time to post online, all the naysayers would see just how good these yaks are. Instead, they will watch a few negative posts and wet their pants over it. LOL
Thanks for making this. Your problems are basically the issues that I was concerned about when looking at the 360. Hobie makes a damn good kayak but the 360 seems to have too many moving parts for my liking. I think I'll stick with a 180 when I get a Pro Angler.
Yeah. I’m hoping all the issues have been worked out.
So was just about to drop cash on a pair of 360s I’m about the same build and size as you and so is my son. After your video NO WAY!! 6 screw ups in 14 months! Not my money. Thank you so much.
I’ve had a few more since making this video also. I love hobbies but this one just has too many issues.
I bought my PA 12 360 in February 2020. I use it about twice per month. Not a single issue so far. Sorry you have had problem and I agree those problems are not acceptable.
I don’t want to hear from people that are not using it! Thanks stopped me from buying a headache
Yea I'd be asking for a new kayak man. I've had 2 PA12-360s and zero issues. Have several friends with 360s also with no issues.
Same
Same
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to go over your experiences.
Thanks for the info! I'm still running my old 2011 flawlessly. I love the idea of the 360, but I'm hesitant to upgrade something that isn't broken. Thanks!!
Man nothing wrong with that those models were TANKS!
I love my cheap but nicely modified kayak...gets the job done and no ridiculous crap like this
Whew...Thanks for the information; Old town should be the win.
Sorry to hear about your experience.. Mine haven't given me any issues.. had it fo a few months now n lots of trips:)
My girlfriend showed me this video because I wanted one but I will no longer purchase it. Thank you so much for this
Yep. This is why I keep my 2014 PA. I'm leaving good enough alone. Sadly...I don't get the time on the water that you have but I'm still hoping!!! Good info Nathan!
Thanks brother, yeah I would definitely stick with your model, those are tanks!
I would not sell that Kayak to another person. Seriously should consider talking to Hobie to see if they would do a swap. I would want Hobie to go through that Kayak themselves to figure out what the issue is to prevent it in the future.
They approved the warranty so waiting on a new one now.
I’ve said it once, I’ve said it twice, and I’ll say it again...Hobie makes a poor quality product. I would not buy one! ❤
I just got me a pa 12ft 360 drive and at first I put alot of use to it... now its 2-3 x's every 3 weeks and haven't had an issue
Man I hope yours is good to go and won’t have any issues.
I'm hoping for the same
Like most of the other 360 owners.
I’m not the only one with these problems. When I was picking up my kayak last week there were 3 other PA 360s in there with broken belts all waiting on parts. EVERY tournament angler I know down here in the Alabama/Mississippi area have all had at least 1 belt replaced and have gone through several drives. Don’t act like this isn’t a problem that MANY are having.
@@southernsalt Yeah, right, and it gets you views on YT.
Was seriously considering getting a Hobie PA-14 thanks for putting out this video, I'll be going with another brand. Looking hard at the new Old Town with spot-lock.
Go with native watercraft propel drive over 8 years
I purchased my Hobie PA 12 360 around the same time and have had five warranty claims. Three are the same as the video and the other two were leaks. The plastic under the red clip where the drive locks in is weak and cracks over time. I also use my Hobie a coupon of times a week and concluded that I like the boat but would prefer something with less issues and I’m considering the 180 version. Hope this helps!
The 180 is on a version 2 best to wait for v2 of 360 drive before pulling trigger on on this kayak.
I’d have to agree with you on that.
Yup, I have a GT drive and that thing is a tank. Has taken a beating for years. I fish pretty regularly as well.I won't be getting a 360 until the V2 version comes out and even then wait another year or two.
I 100% agree with him that Hobie is just the best designed kayak for fishing out of. I've fished out of several other top brands and there just isn't a comparison. Bummer that the 360 drive has issues but it sounds like the rest of the boat is still solid. The new drives are far more complex and complexity comes at a cost of reliability.
That's crazy. I'm glad I haven't had these issues with my PA14 360.
Thank you for making this video. I was going to sale my Pa14 180 for the 360 but now I will have to think about doing this now.
Even if you use it that much, for a $5000+ kayak it sure doesn't last long. You're paying more for the name 'Hobie' than an actual well built product.
I’ve had zero issues with mine I absolutely love it
Actually,hobie yaks are top notch,it’s some of the drive units that have the issues. My pa14 is 8 yrs old and I would never in a million years get rid of it,with the old tried and true drive system,vs. the new 360 system
So sorry you've had such frustrations. Good luck with your next kayak. Thanks for this video.
You must be a really patient guy. I feel sorry for you and the dealer for having to experience that nightmare.
They did say this was a first gen 360 drive. So they will be issues that consumers will find out and they will fix and attain to in future build. Kinda how it all works from manufactures. Especially from car dealers. You sir found the flaws and we newbies are obtaining your wisdom. Haha
Sorry you are going through this. I was looking to upgrade to a pedal drive and this was on my short list. I will hold out for 2nd generation or stick with 180. Thanks for the video.
You need an Old Town Sportsman Series! Unbelievable what you have been through! I pray your next kayak is trouble free, no matter what you get. 🙏😎🎣🐟💦
I have been fishing in a Sportsman 120 for about 6 months now and I could not be happier. The drive is awesome smooth and quiet. Just wish it was lighter and if the tankwell was just a tad bigger so my lab would fit better.
For 5k you should be able to fish that thing every day 12 hours a day for 5 years and only experience minor wear and tear.
I've got an outback from 2017 and have only had one cable snap since then.
I agree man. They’re sending me a new kayak so probably be posting it for sale as soon as I get it.
Sounds like hobie made a drive with too many moving parts
Yeap. Keep is stupid simple in the salt.
Man, if I bought a new vehicle and had three drivetrain failures in a year I’d never shop that brand again. Hopefully Hobie does right and sends you a whole new one! Seems like the engineers over there might like to crack that one open and search for defects.
Yeah man I’m with you there. I’ve used the MD180 for years with no problems. I think they just rushed production on this and didn’t do a thorough enough R and D
@@southernsalt yeah, 8 to 9 years wasn't enough. LOL
Thanks for helping me decide my next Hobie will be a PA 14 180
Gotta budy looking at that 360 and yes he has not got internet access like I do ,he was bragging up what he has seen so now I'm gonna show him this,hopefully spare him some trouble
Well done for making this video, its a big help to anybody going after max manoeuvrability in Kayaks.
Definitely noticed you need to treat the 360 with a bit more finesse than anything else. No forcing if actions, fast moves, etc. 2021 and newer models have seemed to mostly fix these issues, but still treat it with ease.
Was thinking about the 360 but im actually glad I purchased the new outback, its been a great fishing platform
Man I loved my outback I might go back to one soon.
Sorry to hear your troubles with yours. I bought mine kinda from watching your videos. I have found the 360 to be a little stiff if I try to just rotate it as is. I find it rotates a little smoother if I input some pedal movement while rotating the drive. I'm sure they say it should rotate without, but just easier when I pedal a bit... hopefully your issues are anomalies and not across the board. It is too expensive of a kayak for me to have major problems like that... otherwise I agree about the platform. It is one of the best fishing platforms on the market, outside an actual boat
Yeah man I definitely hope mine is an anomaly. But if you do have any issues your dealer and Hobie will make it right.
This makes me nervous 😬 I’m waiting for my PA 360 from my dealer . It’s fully paid for and It’s been back ordered for over a month .. the regular PA was my original upgrade plan. Thanks for your info
Don’t be nervous this is rare as you can see in the comments there are many who have absolutely no issues don’t worry at all and if anything happens hobie will fix it
Find a 2015-17 Outback or PA and go back to the 180..My MD-180 is still working great 5 years in..I like the idea of the 360 but felt right off that it was going to be problematic.
Yeah I love the MD 180. I just went and purchased a new PA MD180
@@southernsalt hopefully they'll treat you right on the warranty on the 360
Me too brother
A great concept in design but mechanically the more moving parts the more chances of failure.
I definitely agree.
@@southernsalt hope you have better luck with your next kayak! I’ll check out your saltwater content as I’m just a plain ole freshwater guy!
I was looking for a new kayak now I know not that one, if it spends more time in for repair than out fishing not worth the money, devalues the name. I think old town will be my next look.
Old town, wilderness systems, or Jackson are my front runners currently
Right
As an old town owner myself, I really wish I went with a native or hobie. Old towns are great kayaks unless you want to seriously upgrade them. Super limited on what you can do without some serious custom mods.
Sounds like you use the equipment pretty hard and are good user check on the system. One thing I did take from this video was that Hobie stood by its product the whole time so that alone gives me the confidence to go forward with picking one up. Admittedly, I doubt I'll use it as hard as you do but it will be in salt water and having a company back it up its product this solidly is a good thing. The drives functionality seems pretty amazing and I suspect that once I use it nothing else will do.
Baking up a product is a good thing, but if you have too have them back it 4-5 times a year then that is a bad $6,000.00 Purchase.
sounds like a new name for a kayak : The 2021 Hobie Issue 360....lol
Man... you have the patience of a monk. The PA is way too expensive to have so many failures in such a short period of time. Wow.
I have to agree with you there lol
This is why I'll stick with Native & Old Town. There drives are amazing. The Hobie Kayak itself is a Really cool platform, but I'm not into there drives. I'll leave fins for the fish 🐟 . Thanks for the info, and very sorry you had too go through so much.
Native definitely had issues with their older drive. They had to replace mine with a newer one but that’s been solid.
My drive got really tight as well and a buncha pins fell out. They replaced it but man this scares me. I've had mine since October 2019 so I'm hoping I don't have any more issues.
Man I hope so too. Hard to venture too far without peace of mind that your kayak will get you back.
I just had a belt snap last week, Ive already had two bolts break on my drive. Its been stressful. Ive used it for maybe 3 months.
Man tell me about it. I hate to hear and hope they get everything worked out for you.
Hey Brother how's it going. It's been a minute man I hope everything is going okay for you and your family man with this crazy weather. I'm sorry to hear that you was having these issues with your Hobie. I know you're not trying to bash Hobie but they really need to fix this problem. You went through that many drive and that many belts in that short of time like you said that's unacceptable. This is messing with your fishing career. I hope and pray that you get to work everything out man. I hate to hear things like this happen to good people. Just keep your head up brother. It was good to hear from you man. it's been a minute but I know you been busy. Take it easy brother and be safe out there.
Looks like too much plastic in stress areas?
Definitely. I was surprised that the needle bearings were plastic.
I just picked my 360 up last week.
The belt snapping was caused by a sharp edge inside belt assembly that has been fixed with a slight redesign. I've also been told you can change the belt out yourself with a $20 belt from Tractor Supply and 45 minutes of your time.
As for the drive, I've curious if you've gotten a replacement drive that has the new drive bearings or some old stock with the old bearings.
Another question, have you rinsed it after every use?
I her the 23 360 drive has been redesigned and is better.
I would think the biggest issue would be close to $5000😳
I have had my PA 12 for over a year and what I found out if the 360 drive is not completely seated, you may by accidently break the drive directional steering. You have to make sure it is completely seated.
It has been completely seated that was not the issue and that wouldn’t cause the belts to break.
bought a hobie revo 13 and man. I have really disliked it. My drives chain snapped 1st trip and rutter was acting out second trip. Out of my 2 trips it has hurt me more than it has helped me
Same. I normally have to keep the rudder drop cable pulled tight to have it work correctly. Good luck when you get a peddle stress fracture in your hull. That's next.
Sad I am hear a lot of things about Hobie and manufacture issues, Leaking hatches and other issues - supper sad but when you spend $5500.00 you want this to work
Hobie should just replace your entire boat! Check out the BKC brand kayaks. I have been looking at them and look pretty good. Except they have a rotating peddle drive vs the hobie drive system...
C'mon down to Merritt Island sometime! Great saltwater fishing. Snook bite has been on fire!
I’ll have to get down there for sure!
I had a similar experience with the turning mechanism. I lost a drive belt, shop installed a completely new steering mechanism. I noticed it was tough to turn without the drive installed. Got it on the water and have had it lock up very often and now I have a tournament coming up and I have a steering mech that fails often. Not sure if there is too much stretch in the belt. Im pissed off! Lots of $$ and poor reliability.
No drive issues, just the 360 steer mechanism. I average on 1.5 days a week on the water.
Man I feel you on that. I had to go back to a 180 because of the reliability.
@@southernsalt im glad you posted the video, the guy at the shop thought maybe I was too tough on the unit. Now I know it wasnt just me. Hope they figure it out. My gut tells me that the belt is to weak
@@ACFDB2 man trust me it’s not just you. There are several people who are having the same issues.
I sold mine and it was the best decision I made had nothing but issues with the drive. Waste of money for 6500 from dealer. Pure garbage big disappointment. I sold mine and got an old town.
G'Day I'm from the land down under Australia and always thought Hobie were a reputable and trustworthy manufacture to deal with. I currently own 2 hobie products the antique hobie bravo cat and the good old angler pro 14 , i bought one for my son so there's 3 in the family. Was seriously thinking about upgrading the 2 annular pro to the 360 i like the thought of 360 movement as one who has the forward thrust only and the crappy rudder turning cap ability
Had my old town predator for 2 years and not a single issue. Use it about 2 times a week
Great video!! I have 3 native propel slayers
2014,2015,2017 INSTANT REVERSE
zero issues brotha 🤙🏾
I’ve heard great things about them. May be something to look at in the future.
I can appreciate the innovation, but there’s too many moving parts if you ask me. My 180 drive does just fine.
First generation design is going to have flaws. Wait for a few iterations of the release and I’m sure they’ll fix the issue.
I agree with that.
Nate, this answers my question I asked on the MBKFA FB page. I'll avoid Hobie. Thanks for the honest review.
That seals the deal for me. I've heard too many horror stories. If I go with another PA it will be the MD180
It’s a phenomenal kayak in its capabilities. Just buy a second one for your “wife” so you always have a “backup”... that’s what I did lol. Also have a 14’ 180 but the maneuverability of the 360 is just too good to give up. I am biased though because we’ve never had an issue with either 360 (and it’s also just a hobby for me - completely understand your reasoning being that it’s your livelihood). Cheers bro 🍻
Sounds like Hobie went cheap on bearings. The easiest way to cut cost and increase profit margin. In my opinion though your a bigger man that uses the kayak heavily in tournaments try looking into an old town sports man
That stinks about your kayak. I have the same one and during the summer I was out maybe 3 times a week. I haven't really had any issue other than the belt tension being a bit too loose and needing to lube the drive. But I'm sure you put a ton more time on yours.
interesting video. i JUST got my 2021 Hobie PA14 180...... fortunately, no issues so far. im hoping that the problems you have had with your 2019 model have been corrected for the 2021 yaks!
The 180s are fine it’s the 360s that are having problems.
We were seriously contemplating buying two of these... not now, you've talked me out of it. Thanks for the honest review. Prolly just stick to the 180, or maybe even some other manufacurer now.
Damn! I'm actually considering a PA 12 360! Now, my favorite word in all man-made products is "warranty",...however, having one of these 360 drives get busted every 3-4 months would not be a good thing,...and especially not good out of warranty!
Probably wouldn't drop $5000 on a kayak with Old Town PDL's available for half that, but I am surprised that this many of these 360 drives were bad. Looking at it versus the OT PDL, it's WAY more complicated and therefore it's not surprising that it encounters these issues.
I thought about upgrading to a 360 last spring but did not trust the 360 being new on the market as I wanted to see how it fared mechanically! I went with a MD-180 and am happy I did! Less moving parts to worry about! Not to mention I just felt I did not need to turn 360 on a dime not the way I fish!
Wow sorry for all the trouble. I well say this I would make hobie exchange your kayak as the amount of issues your having not.similar situation but I have 2019 outback and I've had 3 drive issues and now a cracked Hull on my.kayak and of course under 2 year warranty so I told then I wanna upgrade. Now I'm waiting on a 2021 pa12 of course I paid difference but they definitely understand how frustrated and mad I was considering I been with hobie since when they came out so maybe it's an idea rather easier then selling its the least they can do.
They call it a 360 because the boat ends up right back where you bought it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmaoooo
You not lying. The amount of issues I’ve seen with these is insane. Sad because it looks like an amazing kayak.
Oof
@@NoFro-TL It's incredibly overblown. The Internet is full of Hobie haters. Notice you don't hear near the hate about Old Town or Native yet they have TONS of issues, just as much as Hobie. The folks that can't pay for a Hobie will hate on anyone that does because they are insecure, period. There is a reason why the Hobie pro anglers are the most popular fishing kayak amongst tournament anglers by a wide margine.
Haven’t had a single problem with my native titan 12.
I've gotten so spoiled by the mirage drive. Far better than a prop drive imo.
My buddy loves his Titan though. Still is a heck of a fishing machine, just not as many bells and whistles.
Thanks for your honesty. It really sucks to be out of commission because of a failure. I don't fish nearly as much as you do. The only problem I've had with mine is with the kick up fins getting stuck. It's disappointing to see this with such a high end kayak. I'm still a fan of Hobie. I hope I don't run into any major problems, but it sounds like I probably will as I use it more.
Your experience with the Drive System and the 360 Control System do not speak well for the reliability of those two systems. And that is really not acceptable that the materials used in the manufacturing of those two systems is not strong enough to survive the reasonable loads they are subjected to. Sad, as the boat itself is a really well designed unit.
Yeah I agree. The boat is phenomenal when it’s functioning properly but due to the parts it’s completely unreliable.
I regretted buying my Hobie Compass last spring very much. The kayak itself, and all accessories are all over priced. $220 for a kart which is difficult to put under the kayak, $2100 for the yak, $180 for a crate, $25 each for a simple rod holder, and $800+ for a mirage drive that can go backwards (I bought the regular model which came with the basic mirage drive)...
When are they gonna just slap a trolling motor on hobies ?? Prob make them 8 grand when that happens! They are running out of ideas with mirage. Just make it electric or solar
Nice dealer helping you out and replacing through warranty! Sunjammers?
Is there any way to find out if Hobie has modified their designs to account for these problems or if they are still using the original design??
Hobbies is not Hobbies any more!! Get my drift?
Yikes, I just purchased my 14ft 360. I noticed the 360 knob pretty tight so hopefully, in time it'll loosen up. I hope I don't have this issue...I'm normally out 5-7 days of the week.
Man I hope yours is good to go also. I know that’s a lot of use but I’m sure Hobie is continuing to make improvements and your kayak may already have the kinks worked out.
The drive handle is supposed to be tight. Otherwise, the fins would turn while your pedaling. Try pedaling it by hand with it out of the kayak and see what I'm talking about. Some small pedal inputs while turning the handle will make it much easier.
Good information but that's a shame for all those problems considering how much those kayaks are going for.
Thanks man, yeah it was a bit of a disappointment.
I've had mine for 1 yr weekly fishing in the south padre Island bay. No issues what so ever. Dunno maybe u just have a defective kayak
I feel you man they can't make a kayak that can hold up to everyday fishing like we do. I live my hobie to so I had to get two to stop the wear and tear on the one. Hell they should have a real test team that fish everyday
Man I agree with that.
Damn.. that all sounds like a nitemare.. a guy downunder his PA 14 drive malfunctioned and froze when out at sea, and his rudder cord also snapped at the same time
Dang 😯
czcams.com/video/BWqeAFuKEXk/video.html
This guy, he has good advice and tips on the PA
Sounds like the 360 needs routine belt replacement, bearing overhaul, and perhaps aluminum or SS gears...
Not sure what to tell you, I’ve owned mine for over a year. I go out on the delta at least 2 times a week in tidal currents and never had a problem yet 🤞🏼. Taken it crabbing, lingcod , salmon and halibut on the ocean. It’s been awesome. With all the moving parts there’s bound to be issues eventually.
Just remember guys, for every ONE person experiencing problems like these, there are many more out there doing just fine. Hate to see anyone going through these problems, but it's not the norm. The 360 is a phenomenal machine that's well worth some minor headaches (not suggesting these are minor).
I would go with that except I reached out to other owners in my area and they are all experiencing the same issues. My dealer told me that nearly everyone sold comes back with drive issues and turn in to warranty claims. My dealer advised me to sell the kayak once my warranty comes in and go back with a 180 until all the issues are ironed out.
Hey Dave haven't seen you in a few days :)
@@southernsalt LOL then you better do what your dealer tells you!
Thank you for sharing.