Horizon Hobby - Viper 90mm - Runway (AKA Driveway) Takeoffs & Landings + Yoke Repair
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Brian, I'm a lead professional drone Pilot for the Los Angeles City Fire Department and have my own Ariel UAS business. I just got into RC planes because of you and the camera crew. I just want to say thank you for all that you do. I am fully addicted to this and look forward to many more of your informational videos. My first flight was July 30 with the Carbon Cub S 1.3m and now I own and fly five different RC planes. Thank you for all that you're doing.
So glad to hear this Derrick! This is so cool, and very glad you're making a move into Fixed Wing - isn't it a blast!?!?
Glad you're here with us, and some day, I would love to hear more about your Firefighting experience.
This video is so real! This is what it means to "work it out"...keep these videos coming!
For sure! We love to share when repairs go well ;) Sometimes we don't get so lucky, but WHO WANTS TO PAY to fix this stuff???!??! I'm sure Horizon Hobby would cringe like crazy seeing this, but too bad so sad - the serviceability of this and the F-16 80mm, to me...HUGE selling points!
Not gonna lie, best EDF I’ve ever flown. Every is so perfect and it flies so well. The gear (like Brian said) are fantastic.
Absolutely. It's hard not to look like a total Horizon Hobby fan-boy, when they keep coming out with GREAT planes like this!!!
This video was pretty amazing! I was blown away by that gear fix.
Me too! I couldn't believe it was that easy and effective to fix!
This is the reason I watch your videos. Good honest videos that show the "work in progress" learning a new plane.
Keep up the good work.
P.S. Brian you do good work too. 😁
Thanks Erin! I'm always learning ;) Sometimes the hard way, and sometimes, I get lucky - LOL ;)
had you had a chance to use "Plastic Wood" for any body work! I swear its the easiest strongest paintable/sandable and moldable product on the market!
thank you for you and your wife"s amazing work!
your 100% correct in saying that landing the Viper is the most exciting and difficult to achieve but also the most rewarding part of flying, finishing a good flight with a perfect landing is what i believe we all strive for!
Funny you should say this...as I DID have to fix THIS very plane, but I used spackel - so similar, but now I'm intrigued that I need to try this Plastic Wood...I will get some when we're out at the hardware store next.
Totally a shame that you just don’t enjoy flying this plane.
Another great video of an awesome jet and it’s pilot. I love seeing and hearing your enthusiasm.
Thank you both once again.
God bless.
LOL - I love this plane ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC There were a couple of passes, I’m glad camera crew wasn’t holding a coffee mug. “ Sorry ghost rider, the pattern is full”
I appreciate that you share the throttle percentages. Very helpful 👌 when flying.
Glad you appreciate this...I TRY to be accurate in my call outs, but it is kinda tough to keep up
Great the fins just pop on after the grass ate them. That reverse function defiantly helped the landing 👍🏻
for sure!
Great video tutorial. I love watching your videos, thank you for the inspiration..
You are so welcome! Thanks for being here with us ;)
absolutely the best EDF I've ever flown and God knows I've flown many!
It is GREAT! Wish they could get this and other AMAZING choices in stock. We'd like to share more, but we don't want to torture out audience!!!
Please let me know what you think! Purchase the tube if possible,instead of container. They both work I just think the tube is easier to apply
If you put your parts in a giant baggie and either work through the opening or poke the tool through the baggie, you won't have to worry about loosing the snap rings!
Good idea!
Excellent video and gear fix was impressive, you keep me interested...
Cool video. Great job camera crew you do a nice job filming. Loving that 90mm Viper.
Thanks, and it is amazing!
You crack me up 😂 frustration on scratching the aluminum. I’d be the same way to 😎
Impressive flying , Amazing home fix 💪 and beautiful crib 🙌
Enjoying your videos , learning lots
Thank you 🤗
yep! but then, I'll turn around 3 minutes later and push the battery to the absolute limit for our wonderful audience... LOL ;)
Nice job. Just got done with programming of my Jeti system. I don’t know if I will be able to figure out the reverse thrust. But all should be close
Nothing better then 'night at the movies' Brian Phillips RC....man i sit in Muncie the grandfather of fields watching your technician ace. LoL yes we know they make cir clips ring pliers...but he won't go to the basement 🤣 i would of thought it would break good fix. Maybe next year i skip here and come to your place with a trailer full. Awesome video's you guy's rock... i love the way you fix it ! 😉 Nice job camera crew 2 👍👍
Thanks Crazy Aces! More to come ;)
When working with aluminum like this with that type of damage where you think it will possibly break, it's always good to add a bit of heat from a torch to the area and part to make it more malleable and less prone to damage. Nice fix to the gear regardless, but it's now extremely compromised and weakened for extended use.
I agree, but we'll see ;)
exactly my thought.
Now that is a cool looking plane! Makes me almost want to invest in a winged playing instead of just helicopters.
Fixed wing is amazing ;)
You both rock! What flight times can you get from that 7000 battery! USMC air winger here. Try living at NAS Jacksonville FL. Nothing but jets all day. Most called it annoying sound we called it sound of freedom! Thanks for your service to this hobby!
I too call it AWESOME! We used to have F-16's stationed her in Des Moines and we'd hear them all the time, and I LOVED it, especially since I work at the airport occasionally and I would HAVE TO WATCH every time they'd be going up or coming down...so amazing. My co-worker used to work and live near Jacksonville FL and he worked on the bases there (doing what we both do here now - working on scales) and he said the same thing.
Love hearing the sound of $10,000's of worth of jet fuel burning for no apparent reason...I generally don't like government waste, but good lordy lord...just the sound is worth it ;)
As for flight time...on an EDF it's all about HOW you fly. You could get a short 3.5 min flight, but if you go up and sail it in you could stretch your times...but who's gonna do that - LOL :) I'm gonna be balls to the walls 100% throttle for about 50-75% of the flight, and then 100% throttle on landings now - LOL - don't come in with a dead pack and expect reverse thrust to help ;) I should say, I'm completely guessing on the 3.5min - gotta gauge it from my videos, but you WILL get a "Critically Low" battery warning if you're careful to set up your Telemetry Warnings in Audio Events...
Brian, maybe you've been asked that a lot, but haven't you ever been hit the power line? Well, I would crash in there every time! :) The Viper is so beautiful! Must have! :)
yes, several times.
Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - kept flying for 5 minutes
Cessna Citation UMX - Crashed, and flying again later that night
I can't remember another...
I DID crash FULL SPEED into one of the power poles with the Maule 1.5m too - but not exactly the power lines.
Wow! That was a close one.
Close ;) Love this plane!
Great repair Brian, you’re good…
Thank you!!!
Time for a real nice set of micro / small snap ring pliers. Combo kit for inside & outside snap rings. Worth its weight in gold
They would be nice! MICRO would need to be EXTREME MICRO ;)
Same happened to me the other day, bent the strut on a rough landing, but fixed it like you did. I also noticed the suspension is a tad to soft. You think it would be possible to replace the spring inside the suspension?
You can take it out, and plop some FILLER in there if you want to make it harder. I like it softer...I'd be included to cut them down by 1/3 and make it even softer...but still not "modifying" this beauty ;)
Got my Viper 90mm together. For some reason my flap servos are running "HOT"! All the others are fine. It would be odd that that both flap servos are bad and all the others are good. You have any suggestions? I'm running a Frsky system.
That was under the powerlines on takeoff sketchy nice flying
Thanks Glen ;)
Well you sound better than you did on the last video. Glad your feeling better! Now give us more video's LOL
This was filmed BEFORE we were sick ;) I was trying to be nice and save these two video for when the Viper was BACK in stock - I feel like I'm torturing people when we put out these videos and stuff is endlessly back ordered! We promise, we don't do it on purpose, but everything seems to be in such short supplies anymore.
You got all the cool toys 😎
I really do! Thanks ;)
Considering the short runway you have and landing that fast jet, you’re doing great…
Thanks!!!
Hey Brian I watched your build and radio setup of this jet. I put the CG were you had yours. But its like really really tail heavy. I moved the Battery all the way up to the front to give it a more balanced CG. I haven't flown it yet, been snowy and cold here in Indiana. My question, is it suppose to be that tail heavy. I had another one of the Viper 90's but the servo burnt out while in flight so crashed. The local hobby store did replace it. And that is how I have the new one now. On the first one I watched your build video and the battery I believe was placed more towards the center of the tray. So I cant imagine what would have changed that drastic to have to put the battery all the way in the front of the tray now.
I like the jet's CG to be as far back as I can tolerate to help with flare on landings, otherwise, you'll be flat at best on final....BUT you've got flaps and reverse thrust!
Good video Brian, the l/g repair was interesting, you need a magnetic dish, I loose everything so invaluable to me. Nice nails c/c, a striking color.
Magnetic tray works for carbon steel, but so much is stainless steel anymore :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Very true Brian, but my expensive stainless steel fridge, is adorned with fridge magnets.
Right you were lucky not often can you get away with straightening alloy parts, with a set of circlip/E-clip/C clip or what ever other names they are known as, when removing get a clear parts bag to feed over the part with the clip and remove/replace the clips in the bag so if they fly off the bag will retain it, or better still get a set of E-clip tools Fastrax, Hudy and a few other companies make these multi size tool set's and you will never have to stress over losing a clip.
Love the Jet still not confident to make the leap into jet and any fast plane yet still not gone from 6G to 3D more than a handful of times with my VTOL's still hanker after a Draco as it being able to take off and land in such a small area'
Don't rush it. There will be amazing EDF jets when you're ready. If you push it, these planes are dream killers!!! I know the feeling of wanting to get right in there, but you will be so much happier if you can hold off for a while longer and possibly start with something super simple like the Habu 70mm - so easy to fly, it's almost not even an EDF ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Don't rush it hmm I am nearly 66 so due to health and injuries my time line is shorter than the healthy pensioners, so trying to do all my bucket list remaining and the trouble with bucket list's they never seem to get shorter.
Did you see the RedBull plane that flew through a car tunnel yep pucker moment enjoy be safe bye for now.
Excellent, video. I must have this PLANE! Looks like flying butter in the sky when you fly. BTW, at 7:10 you may call these "snap rings" circular retaining rings, tomato, potato. You did a fantastic job fixing the landing gear and getting the "camber" almost perfect. You're truly the modern-day MacGyver of RC repair! 🙂 Curious, when you use reverse thrust in this Viper 90mm, it doesn't mess with the internal wiring or any of the electronic components? I imagine it whips up quite a storm in the fuselage.
Amazing flight and video tahnk you… can you give details about the 7000 battery.. is it 30C ?
Knipex (and others) make retaining ring pliers. If you ever work with, and lose, these little rings, watching as they shoot across the room... these pliers and well worth their cost.
I suspect you're correct. Hold on...I'm looking for an eclip - LOL ;)
Next shipment in March 2022 glad you got it fixed or your $600 EDF would be collecting dust in your garage.
I heard the MFG was digging their head further into their butts, which is why they're out of stock - What a bummer!!!!!!!
This plane is so good, and it deserves to be here now getting flown!!!
How long grass runway does this need? My lawn is 200 feet long. ( With no obstacles in eighter end)
200 feet, smooth and well manicured, I suspect you could do it (assuming no fence!)
Our runway is about 225, but we lose the last part as it "falls away" from right to left. Road is 1220 feet, intersection to first turn to the left.
I was cringing when you were working on those e-clips. There is a tool that makes removal much easier. Dynamite makes it and it handles 1.5mm - 5mm. Here is an important truism - The right tool makes a difficult job easy but the wrong tool makes an easy job DANGEROUS. Loved watching you fix the gear. Good job and thank you for sharing your mistakes and triumphs.
Thanks! It would be nice to have that pair of pliers. I HATE taking off those eclips!
Can u charge these smart batteries on a charger that not the smart charger?? I juss bought the umx ultrix 600 mm and I’m having trouble finding batteries for it. Aside from the smart batteries but don’t have the money for the smart charger. I have the lectern duo pro….?
You can if they're equipped with a balance lead (Gen1) ...if not, you'll need to use a SMART Charger.
Bad ass man
Thanks Shane!
Put a little magnet on your ring tools to keep the ring.
Sure!
OMG!!! It just hit me. Do you know your Chris Pratt’s doppelganger. Wow!
I used to be accused of looking like the kid from wonder years when I was younger... I appreciate the Pratt consideration better ;)
He's Just A Grown Up Eddie Munster... 🤣🤣🤣
Brian I use a white towel on the floor for snap removal
LOL - Great idea!
Going to fly mine this morning. Curious if it can fly without winglets.
I wouldn't; it'll be a lot less efficient....not to mention - I LOVE THEM ;)
Pretty
Sure is! Love this plane. I hope you get one Tim.
What brand of volt meters do you use?
Whatever is closest to my right hand ;)
If you mean, the XBC Checker & Servo Tester bit.ly/3e8mnA6 - it's Spektrum, and I love it!
These Viper models kinda remind me of the full size F-5s and T-38s. Which I'm not sure if any manufacturer has done a model of those? Idea for future E-flite model!
Is reverse thrust available to be added to a 70mm Viper I use a gravel runway and slowing down can be tough sometimes with what would I need to do to have this feature Brian
Don’t use a viper in gravel.
Not much choice I use what I got and thanks for the tip
@@tylersrcflightschool9570 there is a landing gear upgrade for the viper 70mm there’s your tip . It’s around 40 bucks
I would second the idea of gravel not being a great idea on the 70mm...it already suffers from nose gear issues as stock, BUT there's some mods using FMS gear to fix this, but it's not cheap.
As for what you ACTUALLY need...look at the link for the ESC in this Timber Evo ;) You need the Avian and you'll need to get the right SIZE, since there's a bunch of them out there now. You will set it up JUST like I did with this plane (the 90mm), but Borat's Cousin is correct that you'll need a fresh channel for it, FYI.
Maybe switch the reinstall process and put the lower strut pin in first?
sure - good idea!
slip slip slip wooooooo!
oh yeah!
Idk if you’ve said this before but how many channels do you need for pilot fatigue?
Same channel used for controlling the Thrust Reverse. It's more about MIXING. It's pretty easy to setup, if you go back ONE video, I believe I cover the whole process on that last one. (I do a "refresher" in this video too...I thought)
@@BrianPhillipsRC ah gotcha. I’ll check it out!
You almost pulled a Zane!
Almost ;) LOL!!!!
Reverse thrust.. wow..
Are the landing gear rubber or plastic?
They're foam. Stock tires. Low Bounce would be real nice, and might help on this plane a bit.
Nice that you could fix that gear. I see they cost fifty bucks. A couple of those post landings were hard enough to show the gear is still strong. I know you won't but maybe somebody will buy a C-clip tool for you.
LOL - I usually try to annoy my viewers into buying tools for me - LOL ;)
Your runway is like landing at the old Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong.
Very cool! I need a few more sky scrapers ;)
Better to bend the landing gear (which is replaceable) than to rip it out of the wing...... (Landing gear set ~ $50)
It didn't look that Badder landing for that amount of damage Brian?.
I knew as soon as she was slopping over, something bad was gonna happen ;)
Somebody ( Brian ) looks like get the hang of it on edf do ya😁?! Love jets ( scale only ) , maybe one day Horizon will do a replica of a real one ( no, the f-16 or mig aren’t)
I would love more scale jets from Eflite. They are always some of the best.
Haven’t watched yet. Hoping you tell us some grass growing facts. ;)
LOL!!!
👍
thanks!
WOW
Thanks!
DUDE IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT. I NOW OWNE A MA A FUTRABA 90 MM, A 10 WARTHORG both are in repair. ill post pics later and i got a BRAND NEW XTEMBER NIGHT WING "BUTIFUL" AND I GOT A USED 2 METER TRAINER NITRO, I GOT SO MUCH STUFF, THANKS I NEED IT🤣 LOL @@BrianPhillipsRC
“I’m not sure if this is bendable or not.”
U proved it out before the repair…definitely bendable.
LOL - Yep
Brian says he gonna make this Jet his biotch 😁😂 Not in those exact words of course lol If I flew as much as you Brian and owned that field in the back I'd definitely make a runway back there It's not to far to walk or you could ride the electric scooters or bikes I'd get that stuff the TestFlite guys use I forget the name of it but it's easy to put down and easy to take up if ya want to move it or put it up for winter etc I'm pretty sure they leave theirs down year round It's really tough material from what I hear I could set and watch you land and take off all day It's pretty exciting watching you drop in over the trees or navigate under the power line and dodge all the little bushes and trees and try to get it straight at the same time I'm sure it's pretty dang challenging and fun AF at the same time lol so maybe you like the challenge so much you don't feel the need for a bigger better laid out runway meaning ya don't have to drop down so fast and get lined up Sorry for writing a book lol I get excited talking about planes I can't shut up hehe Kinda reminds me of someone on YT 🙄 lol Love the 90MM That thing is awesome I wouldn't be able to shut up flying that thing either I'd be F bombing like crazy 😁 Nice fun flying vid Brian Thanks to Camera Crew's great skills of tracking a dot in the sky she made it very enjoyable to watch 🔥 Everybody should really appreciate Camera Crew If it wasn't for her this wouldn't be half as good 👍
Again sorry for the long comment 🤪 lol ✌️
In the Air Force we used to call those "Jesus clips" cause more often than not you'd curse getting them off, lol
I've heard this too Boart's Cousin :) Either way, there would be loads of cursing if we weren't filming the procedure ;) LOL
Landing a 90mm in a driveway lol dude you kill me lol.
Ali with HH was landing it in like 15 feet or some crazy such thing....I want to be like him when I grow up ;) LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC There are a few videos of harrier landings with the f16 from eflite. The 70mm one . They literally land at 5 mph and roll a few feet. I am planning to make that my second edf. The eflite f15 will be my beater for windy days.
“I know that rhymed, I didn’t mean it” ANYBODY WANT A PEANUT?
(Princess Bride quote)
Exactly - so glad you GET me ;)
Have you ever thought of fpv ing the plane for the landing I d bet it be orsome. But then what would I know. Has iv never flown one . Love all your vids Mr SURESH PATEL UK ENGLAND UNITED
I have thought about it, but I can't technically share that footage...I CAN do it for fun, but when I put it up on a monetized channel...this would require me get a part 107 from the FAA (I know...it's totally stupid, but true)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks ever so much for your reply. And yes what a great shame dam the FAA would spoil our wonderful hobby. You know iv only just been into watching your channel and videos. Although I'm into all rc hobbies. Has well has my first love for drones and fpv drones. But you have got me hooked on the plane s and jets . And i thank you and camera crew and your lovely family too God bless. And keep on doing amazing job and bringing us all this wonderful new planes and these EDF jets . Kind regards Suresh 😎
Jajajjajajajaj,. That ride a say that where you going a say a go to fly o crashe jajajjaja that the only way to learn 👍
Okay ;)
You have to machine the part.
How much money did you have to save to get into the hobby. ?
To start off, I was spending about $200-$300 each month. This was enough to get a new plane about every month. I also bought a LOT of parts....LOTS and LOTS of parts. I still have TONS of little crap downstairs that I draw from when I need to fix something. I was very bad about going to Hobbyking and buying loads of little things I didn't need, but later I found it very helpful to have it around when I needed them...BUT I would have been better off to just buy stuff that I KNEW I needed.
As for how much to get started now, you could be in the air for maybe $300-500 for a nice setup with charger, transmitter, and plane, and a spare battery. Another $500 would get you into a nice charger and a few more batteries.
So...it's not Cheap at the beginning, but you can spread out a lot of the spending and get a long ways with your first few planes. Here's my "Beginner List"...
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Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html
Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html
T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html
Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html
Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - czcams.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html
AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - czcams.com/video/vfZZQXx7jU4/video.html
...remember, we all start somewhere, and getting a simulator before you have a plane to keep the fire under your seat, will be a ticket to procrastination, but you can do that too to get started, but I suggest it when WINTER comes for the first year of flying, so you can keep flying EVERY DAY.
RC Sim bit.ly/3q5rSUF
...P.S. the simulator is expensive, but you WILL save as much as you spend on it in one year from saving a plane...unless you're a complete natural and never make mistakes ;)
That's the thing. I bought the HABU STS for my first plane, and after crashing it a BUNCH of times, I can now fly in expert mode all the time now. I'm never in beginner mode. Also capable of flying inverted the hole flight if I wanted to without crashing. What would be a good second bush or retractable landing gear plane?
Brian, we all set our new Viper's up with Pilot Fatigue switches as you taught us. It works amazing, it's a real game changer! I hope you don't mind me posting a link to our video, we gave you lots of credit! Viper 90 flights with breaking and Pilot Fatigue Breaking! Filmed in HD. What an amazing airplane.
czcams.com/video/Bd35w6Xxg0M/video.html
No problem - works so good, doesn't it!??!?
I really really want one of these ... It's so difficult for me to cough up the $600 tho ...
I get it, but this plane is very good! Don't forget the $200 battery ;( At least you can use it for the other $600 planes you can't live without ;)
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SHITGEAR!!! THAT TIRE WAS LAST TO TOUCH
I was super impressed with the serviceability...not exactly a greasy landing ;)
Make it your BITCH!
YES - but I can't say that "on the air" ;) I always tell Esteban to do that with his planes to encourage him, when they're kicking his butt ;)