Its HERE! The ALL NEW NORTENT VERN 1 2024 . First Look
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The NEW VERN 1 promises to progress from the already superb original Vern 1. This tent has been developed to be the ultimate 4 season, 1 person go anywhere backpacking tent. i expect this tent to ruffle some feathers and disrupt the UK wild camping tent market.
In this first look I take you through all the details with an in depth look at internal space, even placing inside 3 different types of mat.
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I must resist,I must resist!!!
It's been 378 days since I last bought a new tent.I was doing so so well.
Hello , my name is farmerspud, and I'm a tentaholic. Hi farmerspud, I am fellmandave, and I too am a tentaholic, its been two weeks since i bought a tent.
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Great first impressions video. I'm looking forward to seeing it out
Me too!
Very comprehensive review... And easy to follow... Thanks for sharing...
Thanks Ed, sometimes out on a misty hill with lots to do, it's not easy to get clarity, so I appreciate that. ATB FMD
NORTENT have been busy sending out tents to CZcamsrs. I wish YTers would state up front that this is paid for promotion or they got the £600 tent for free. Might add a little context to the gushing and invariably positive comments.
No secrets here. try one, you may find yourself having a gush.
I wish I could afford to spend £600 on a tent. Or maybe you can donate the tent once you’ve finished with it?
@@AndyZ-hz7oh Sorry Andy, I have given tents to some of the young scout leaders i work with though, well deserved, or i will sell some of my old ones i have funded myself. As a business, this YT lark is a big loss maker, so some fringe benefits are well deserved IMO. Thanks for the comments
@@AndyZ-hz7ohCurrently £464 from Nortent!
@@AndyZ-hz7oh£464 from Nortent atm!
Looks great! Nice introduction. One of the things that I have noticed in KUIU Storm Star reviews is how little the outer flaps around in the wind once properly lined out. The Nortent polycotton Vern 1 is also very quiet. That is very important to me as I can endure almost any conditions as long as I can get a good night's sleep. Looking forward to your true test in the wild. Thanks!
Cheers Kurt.if i ghet the chance i may well put them up side by side, unless i sell the KUIU first!
Looks like a banging tent, with all the user friendly Nortent touches, I mean how many other tents actually include the washing line as well. I've always wished I was a foot smaller so the Soulo would be spacious, but for nearly half the price and a lot more flexibility it might give Hilleberg something to worry about
Looking forward to this one
Cheers Scott Me Lad.
Great review as always Dave ,it’s a game changer in the 4 season tent market and half the price of the soulo wow 😮,the colour ,design,structure all what you have shown makes a big statement I’ve noticed the other tents seem to be very impressive indeed 👍🤩
@@thomasjeffersonlane9902 I agree yes but judging by the immediate it’s looking very good ,I own a hilleberg Staika and to beat that 4 season tent and the soulo takes some hell of a tent further experience with the Vern 1 is required agreed 👍
Thanks for sharing your initial thoughts on this Dave and giving us a first look. This looks like a really compelling option for those who aspire to a Soulo but maybe can’t justify the price. On the other hand those who need something abit larger than a Soulo but don’t want to step up to an Allak. Not all poles are created equal however and we do think the lack of DAC poles mean it probably won’t be able to take on those very extreme conditions Hille’s stand up to, but for 99% of people that isn’t a concern. Absolute masterstroke by Nortent with this one. All the best - BR
Very professional review Dave
Thanks!
Just realised it's you bro. Cheers!
Loving the Nortent t-shirt, nice touch 👌, I need one. I want to use my vern 1 PC a bit more before I purchase it, thanks for the video.
Cheers Paul, enjoy! How have you found this weathering in thing?
@@Fellmandave1 it seems to work, obviously weather conditions wind, rain and the cold will affect it's performance in some way, but overall I think it works.
From the strangest of places! Watching this on the 13th Feb, what a legend hitting us up with a valentine's reminder! Saved my bacon pal, cheers Dave👍🏻 review was awesome too👍🏻
Glad I could help! What did you get her?
@@Fellmandave1 haha that's what I'm saying! Got to go shopping now🫣
That's a proper tent. True freestanding and enough height to sit down in and cook in the vestibule. Yes it's a bit heavy but it's a bad weather bit of kit too. I think this is my new tent. It has everything I want on a wish list.
Well said!
Nice video, as always. Very thorough. The only thing missing was testing with a large/wide mat for us larger persons. But it doesn’t look like it would fit anyway.
It honestly doesn't make sense. I use Soulo with long wide mat (196x64cm) and it fits. How on earth did nortent make a wider and longer than Soulo tent that doesn't fit long wide mat? 🤯
@@eorenn I may have been mistaken. According to an Instagram post made by nortent. They do provide an interior shot of the tent featuring a 197 x 65 cm mat.
It might have room for it after all
Great first look at a very interesting looking tent. I'd prefer the weight to be closer to 2kg but it's certainly not a shop stopper.
Totally agree, but alas, you cannot have it all ways.🤓
@Fellmandave1 I greatly appreciate the thorough review, especially showing pads with measurements as they help visualize for taller people as "tall" is too relative a descriptor (some would say 6'1" is tall, while others not). Giving sleeping pad dimensions gives a better frame of reference. Quick clarifying question re: length. At 17:42, you show the rectangular wide NXT at 183cm x 64 cm (72" x 25"), which appears to just fit as the outside corner of the pad touches where the inner tent angles in to the end (leaving what you describe as a good handwidth of space remaining on each end). At 19:00 you show the regular mummy Ether Light Extreme 183cm x 55 cm (72" x 21.5") and then the NeoAir 183cm x 51cm, which both have a little more play as they are narrower (and rounded edges for the mummy version). Many companies are using 72" (183cm) long sleeping pads as their standard length and also offering "large" versions that are typically 78" or 79" long (198 or 201cm) e.g. Ether Light Large Rectangular (79" x 25"). Based on this first look, it appears that the longer 78" "large" pads would be too long to fit inside this tent, especially at the 25" width. Can you confirm that a sleeping pad longer than 72" would be too long to fit in this tent? I have serious concerns about Nortent's functional use for tall people. For example, I am 6'9" (206 cm) tall, so use a 79" x 25" sleeping pad. While this tent appears to be great, it also appears that it is too short/small for tall people. Thanks and keep up the excellent reviews!
Hi Jerod, the standard 198 cm would fit, but a wide would roll up at the corners. Hope that helps. Thanks for the constructive comment and happy (tall) camping!
Very good vid mate .do you have to seem seal these tents
Cheers. It's optional. Belt and braces. I used it in strong wind and rain and have seen 3 others use in heavy downpours. All not seam sealed and no one reported any leaks. But I am going to anyway. Easy and adds strength
Looks like a great tent some well thought out features.the downside for me to the soulo was the space inside this is spot better.if I was in the market for another tent id take this over the soulo
Great film. Looks like a lovely tent. 2.9kg for a one man is far too heavy with a footprint. As is the Soulo. Just bought an abisko shape 2 for less and it’s lighter. Thanks for the content
Great tent! I feel that if you want to use a robust heavier tent, then you will use some other kit that is lighter. Balance it out. Or just carry it and be happy.
Hi Dave. Good first look at this tent. It certainly looks well thought out and seems like it will be very strong in adverse weather. Price point also attractive. Only negative on first impressions is the weight. At 2.9kg with the footprint this is only 200g shy of the likes of a Hilleberg Jannu. Setting price aside (easy to say), for me it’s just too heavy for what it offers. Maybe I will change my mind when it’s put through its paces in the field….cheers.
Sensisible approach Gary. In the bag and pitching it, component wise it does not feel heavy materials wise if that make sense.
Thanks
That's really appreciated Jason, you absolute star.
It's a nice tent. I hope it can be purchased in south korea as well.
i would ask Nortent of they will post. thanks for commenting from so far away, cool!😀
Great review 👌 looks fantastic my dream is the soulo but the price is so high when you add the footprint in as well.
Thats a great price to compete with the soulo
Cheers G
Could even be, dare I say it, a better tent than the Soulo Graham.
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@thomasjeffersonlane9902 on balance having been in them and watched their use, that's my opinion. I did say could be. Each is entitled to their calm, considered perspective. Its just tents Thomas.
Thanks! Will a 25 inch wide sleep pad fit?
Yes! The thermarest was 25"!
been using orthotic insoles in my daily trail/walking shoes for my supination . they have certainly worked as far as uneven sole wear goes . weather they have straightened my gait up iam not sure. off subject but seen the sign in your studio 😊
City centre Newcastle!
@@Fellmandave1 I take it thats where your based are you part of peacocks?
@thegeordiefellwalker8878 used to be, independent now.
Hi dave would be interested in a comparison between this new vern 1 and the stormstar if you still have it
Yes I do!
Cheers, Dave, good demo'. Sorry to be pedantic, but what was the weight of fly and inner😊
I would say bang on 2kg
great, deep,proper review...
Glad you liked it Mich. There are now 3 more of mine on this tent- enjoy!
Thinking to buy one for my motorcycle trips, well is quite bulky but self standing and looks well made.
Looks like another hit out of the park for Nortent here :)
I can't wait to get out camping in my lighter original Verne 1... I love the design, but prefer the weight of the original.
That said, the design is as usual great and it will be interesting to see how Nortent manages to improve upon it next year ;)
It won't stop me from enjoying my first Nortent. I did a test pitch; I'm pretty sure it has enough room for me and my cat, so I need to get my little furball used to having or paw-knives trimmed!
the MK 1 is a gret tent, but cats and tents, just NO! urs is nosey and i always chase her away if pitching. 👿
@@Fellmandave1 You're only saying that because you haven't met my cat yet... pretty much everyone who has has fallen totally in love with her, even though she's very much a daddy's girl. Her (also a tiger) predecessor used to hang out with me in my tents when I pitched them in the back yard to dry after a trip, so I've been taking my little youngling out for walks in the park when the weather's been nice to get her ready :)
Think what p@sees most people off is that fact most paying customers are getting quoted a shipping time of end of Feb but lo and behold other non paying are getting there’s now.
It's just the first off production to generate interest G. Only two weeks. I have waited much longer. the non paying put many hours in and much back ground work. Its not as easy as it seems.
Apparently people are successfully ordering now!
@@Fellmandave1 that’s champion.
As a pessimist I’m expecting an email saying mine will be delayed even though I ordered on the day of launch #seenitdoneitgotthetshirt
First class review. Is there any reason why you wouldn't use this in the summer (apart from the weight)? Thinking of getting this as my one and only tent.
Not at all, it's well ventilated, that double door really helps, but may be a little warm in high summer at low levels. Give it a go and please see my other videos on this tent. Thanks for commenting!
Hi Dave which do you prefer the Vern or the storm star you reviewed some time ago ? For mainly a bombproof more summer tent.
Hi Michael, I still have the storm star, thinking of selling. So for one person, especially in summer, the vern 1 will be amuch more airy place to be. With the storm star you are very much inside.. Gave a look at me cooking in the hedgehope video. Freezing freedom after lockdown.
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you for your reply Dave much appreciated, so Vern 1 is the better option then, is there any others you could think of that might be worth me looking at ? An I will check your video out now.
@@michaelwedgner6163 lots of other choices. You're on your own with that one! This is a YT channel, not a personal shopper. Much love and enjoy the journey.
I feel like this is what the Hilleberg Soulo should have become 10 years ago
Intersting, i think the SOULO and Hilleberg remain happy leaving it as it is. i am just glad there is a viable alernative.
This is no alternative to the soulo. It doesn't even come close. Even more so illustrated by recent events. 😂
Hi Dave. Comprehensive review. Do you know any Uk retailer stocking them? Internet search not successful.☹️
Valley and Peak. In stock 25/02.
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you. 😀
Hi Dave yiu sold me the Vern1 from your review. I can't see Valley and Peak 10 % for new subscribers though only 5 % do you have a link
Best wishes
Sorry my mistake 5%. Or it changed.
Am I the only one who not got this tent sent too them.That why a like wildbear no free back handers
Yes everbody else got a free tent except you. Back hander to me growing up was a smack across the side of the head. Did not get that fortunately or anything else
I'm not sure you're correct about it being bigger than the Soulo in all dimensions. Inner head height looks lower than the 95cm of the Soulo. I see they give exterior height as 100cm but do state interior. For 6+ footers, that could be a deal breaker.
Hi. I measured it as a Conservative 95cm
In that case, I'd say you're getting a great tent at about half the cost of a Soulo. A no brainer really.
just bought one, for my motorcycle trips
Brilliant! Where you planning?
@@Fellmandave1 “didnt turn the bottle yet”! But most probably Balkans
@@michsky46 adventure awaits!
@@Fellmandave1 had to cancel vern1 and buy vern2 as the one not on stock, bit bigger, never mind
Dave, I'm 6'4'' and I own Soulo, which is about right. Would I struggle in vern?
well, there is more space in the Vern, so I would say not.
@@Fellmandave1could you please double check your thermarest mat size? Is it really not the 196cm long one?
Personally I don’t like porthole doors. As can be seen from the solid bits alongside, the view out is compromised. The loss of the second rain cover looks like a cost saver by Nortent. It looks an interesting design. I note though that the ceiling is actually the same as the Soulo - 95cm. But Nortent’s dimensions are a bit longer than Dave’s measurements. If wanting to put it up against a Soulo then I suppose the field test is where to compare.
To be honest Nortents diagrams are not the best and the difference between inner and outer is hard to tell. My measurements could have been better too as it was not really stretched out and pitched. I agree that much field testing is needed . I thought the porthole was OK though and having the double outer doors enables a much bigger view than a bigger inner door and a single outer door if you get my meaning. Thanks for adding to the debate!
Looks like a well made, well designed tent. 👍
I have one question for you though, what feature would convince me to buy this model over other much cheaper options which have similar features?
I live in the UK where lets be honest our climate is fairly tame 99% of the time and in 54 years of hiking/wild camping I've never had a major tent failure. I have camped in Finland, Sweden and British Columbia but even then didn't use a tent of this price.
Is it worth almost £600?
Or is it like a luxury car, bought for a status symbol but no more functional than a family saloon?
I'm not knocking the tent or your review, it's a genuine question. 👍👍
it's a good question Jeremy. But a tent is not just one feature and ones needs, camping style, location, weather tolerance, budget etc is all individual. So on balance, you know your needs much better than I, so when you have seen reviews such as mine and balanced that against your own needs, its up to you. Many people buy tents that have an insurance factor of specification and they enjoy that.Thanks for the comment!
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Thats a fair comment and i agree. I myself have different tents for different times of year and types of camping.
I was just wondering if any particular feature stood out for you?
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@@jeremymanning2132 has to be quick pitch from ground up. Those clips were so easy. Relief compared to the storrmstar that's a bi#ch.
@@Fellmandave1
Easy pitching is always a big plus.
Thanks. 👍👍
It's a lovely tent,but i'm put off by the weight of the thing. I think I'll stick will carrying my lighter 2 manner.
you think this is better than a southern cross 1 . I am mighty tempted to change to this 🙈
Dont know Dave, does the souhern cross have as much space and a better features? Have seen one but never used one.
@@Fellmandave1 the sc1 is small , but i’m only 5 foot 6 so it’s fine for me . Really like the look of the pole system in that vern though . looks like it could take a battering . The sc1 not as tough looking .
I've used the SC1 in high winds and it hasn't buckled.
I just looked it up for USA and the foot print does NOT come with it!! It’s a separate purchase….
sorry about that
Looks like a nice tent but so different from the old Vern Im not sure they should be callled by the same name. The old Vern was a tent I'd probably buy but this looks a bit too nich for me, far too big and heavy for all but the worst conditions. Personally I think they should keep the old design going and have this as a separate model.
I agree in part for the vern 1. but definitely for the Vern 2 , all great tents! Thanks for commenting.
Supposed to be 20 pegs as per their own description and specifications.
Really! Will check .
Looks like they've copied a few designs from the Hilleberg SOULO (Not Sooloo).
I cant say Kuiu either
Your English accent is so melodic, increadible
I never knew! Which country are you in?
@@Fellmandave1 Belgium
Thanks for the review.
Would be nice if nortent can please come up with individual names rather than calling everything a Vern 😂 quite confusing.
You should try fire maple stoves. Everything is called Polaris!
@@Fellmandave1 I'm a firemaple stove user. They're called polaris, buzz, hornet, FMS, blade. So not quite all the same. But there's vern 1 and vern 1 that are different tents etc
@frbergkotte there are 3 models all called polaris though. You forgot lava and Mars!
Low HH though !
4 Season but only in Nordic conditions ! Snow loading and high winds. A 3000HH head is not enough, after a good few outings in UK winter with driving rain it will be water logged.
Hi Chris, evidence?
@@thomasjeffersonlane9902 No. Hilleberg Soulo, Red label 5000 hh
Did you have to sign a contract on what you had to talk about RE this tent?
No, entirely up to me. I like tents, especially good ones, I get enthusiastic.
Pole structure design problems with this one…..
Don't let one absolutely mental winds test be the final lesson. Not very scientific
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This is not a complex circumstance. The rear end of the tent is prone to fattening from downward air pressure due to the pole structure and the guy lines can’t help that much as designed. Thicker poles will help some but they cant completely defeat the geometry of the current design. So it’s not for me unless they make a design change to the pole structure. However, this tent looks like it’s made well with high quality materials and is perfectly fine if not exposed to winds that it can’t handle. However, it is clear to me that there are tents in it’s price range that do a much better job with wind at about the same weight or less. Cheers!
From the official site you can check the capacity of the tent....1,5 person 😂😂😂😂
Well they would not each much. In my case its the dog, perfect!
Footprint is not included
My mistake. Option
Great review Dave but lets not be fooled by that little Norwegian flag-tag, this is yet another cheap foreign import cobbled together in a factory in China, overpriced for what it is and with no ethical inward investment. There must surely be enough good quality used-tents available to satisfy us campers, and a handful still available that are genuinely made in the UK or EU
Thanks for your perspective Daniel
The footprint isnt free its £65 extra
Yes, sorry about that.
Such an expensive footprint is nonsense. If it is made in China, 20 pounds
Looks the bollox
Oh yes...
Personally I would absolutely hate to try to raise this tent in adverse weather. My Hileberg Akto is a perfect 4 season tent made for the worst of conditions. Takes barely a minute to get up and is safe in the toughest of conditions possible. No running around trying to get the poles into all pockets and the clips to click at the correct places. The weight aspect is also a big plus with Akto. What many seem to forget is that there is not one tent for all situations. There is a huge difference to pack and pitch a tent in the mountains compared to pack a kayak for a tour among bare rock islands in the Swedish archipelago or a base camp in Himalaya. And many seem to think that a new version each season is a must for a tent brand. For winter camping I would definitely pack a larger tent but with that comes a penalty in weight and pack volume. I understand that price is always an aspect but the cost for a more expensive tent can easily be carried over a number of years and also compared to how much a few nights in a hotel would cost.
Hi, thanks for the comment. The pitching method is very simiar to many hillebergs and one that works well in adverse weather.
This is no alternative to a soulo. Doesnt even come close. Even more so illustrated by recent events. 😂
Hello and goodnight.
@@Fellmandave1 Your response is about as brief as the Vern's longevity in bad weather. 😂
If you watch my videos, I have used it in bad weather. It lasted all night just fine. You've made your point, I am getting pretty tired of gloating trolls.
I guess it's all down to what an individual defines as bad weather. But this tent is not four seasons and far too heavy and expensive to justify its capabilities as things stand.
Good show... thanks for the share. I'm looking for a 4 season. Take care. 👴
Thanks, you too!
Toff...lol
I'm posh, Ha!