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Misandry, Hating Men, and Modern Day Feminism
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- In this video, I delve into the evolution of feminism, exploring its four waves and the significant milestones achieved in the fight for women's rights. From the Seneca Falls Convention to the present-day Fourth Wave, feminism has adapted to address various societal challenges.
However, we also take a critical look at the current state of modern feminism, highlighting a concerning trend - the rise of misandry. Misandry, defined as hateful speech and prejudice directed towards men, has become prevalent in social media and society.
0:00 - Intro
1:03 - The Four Waves of Feminism
4:50 - Misandry and "Hating Men"
7:24 - What is causing Misandry?
8:15 - What do you think?
Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and do not reflect the opinions and interests of any of my contracts or employer.
As a woman I hate feminism not because of hatred towards women. I hate how we are portrayed as victims that always suffer. And how can feminism be something everyone should accept when even feminists have different opinions on topics (sex work etc).
And a thing I hate the most: "We don't hate men" * proceed to blame all human sins on men. This pisses me of so much
The funny thing about misogyny/misandry is that if you start off with one, you just loop back to the other. In addition, your point about how feminists themselves can't not slapfight over a bunch of topics is a great observation. It's such a confusing mess where feminists are getting upset over each other about their views on racial issues or LGBT ones, when the problematic views have been there ever since the start? Gotta love how you get the "Not all feminists"/"that's not real feminism!" if you point out one of the many flaws, like I have seen some extremely horrible shit feminists say about pretty much any kind of person you can imagine.
@@cherrylimeali4393 agreed.
Have you ever heard of "Ozy's Law". It was proposed on No, Seriously What About Teh Menz by bloger Ozymandias. It states that manifestation of misogyny is equally misandrist. One produces the other effect and vice versa.@@cherrylimeali4393
No lies detected.
Exactly. When I say that I’m for women’s empowerment, what that means is that I am FOR women tapping into their femininity, encouraging women to develop their self-esteem, assert themselves, develop their character, lean into their confidence, honor their values, have morals, and high standards. What I refuse to accept is female
victimhood. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Misandry is not the opposite of misogyny, it's the exact equivalent. The only difference being that you always have to explain what misandry means to everyone, while everyone knows what misogyny means - absolutely nothing anymore.
I typed in "Misandry" here in youtube, and almost everything that popped up is about misogyny 🥱 ...
it's not that everyone knows what "msgny" is, it's that everyone seems to think asking what it means is offensive.
No, those men don't keep using PUUUR - JURY and organize to keep you out of work and colleges at H.R. and admissions. But we should now, never help, never approach, never hire, we need bodycams to be around you now and NONE of you say a word to stop it, most of you join their PUUUR - JURY. SPEAK UP, or you are teaching us you are the same. You are the opposite of friends.
Women are both Misogynist and Misandrist because they have became men.
Actually … in most instances where a women claims misogyny, it’s simply criticising them. Therefore most modern women have no idea what it really means.
This is why I don’t say I’m a feminist, because now it’s about hating men and justifying murder of unborn children just because they’re not ‘wanted’. As a woman, I can vote, hold a job with equal pay, and own property. Anything more than that is just special treatment.
The only problem I’ve had with judgement was wanting to be a housewife from angry feminists and the idea that you need to make money to have value. I understand that back then, being a mother and wife was ALL you could do to have worth, and you had absolutely no other rights. Where we went wrong was saying that instead of treating that fundamental role with the respect it deserves and making society see that women weren’t tools, but foundational makers with the rights to make changes in society, we deemed ‘motherhood and being a wife’ to be the problem instead of the society’s views of them.
To this day, people still treat housewives as if their role is unimportant, and that the only worth you will have is living your life the exact way a man does. The hatred towards men stems from the fact that many insecure women are trying so hard to be men, but recognize that they will never be as good of a man as men inherently are. We are women. We are different… and that’s okay.
The most accomplishment and joy I ever felt was watching my little brother (who is over a decade younger than me) reach milestones in his development, like saying his first words and his first everything. It made me want my own children, to be able to provide a safe and nurturing environment for them. I understand that financially many mothers have to work as well, but I truly believe that stay at home mothers are fundamental in making a happy home with deep relationships. I cannot imagine my life if my mom worked as well, since she’s my best friend. Men are told off for working too much and not spending time with their kids, so why aren’t women?
We are enough, just the way we are. Children do not take away our joy, they amplify and multiply it if we will let it. The happiest things in life oftentimes require the most sacrifice. :)
Such a beautiful and thoughtful response. Thank you so much for sharing
@@HannahJenarine No problem! Keep making wonderful videos🩷
thank you for voicing such reasonableness.
whenever i express a disagreeing opinion on "feminist" matters, i get group shunned for simply disagreeing because i am a man, and therefore have no right to an opinion
@@albertfromsd Never stop voicing your opinions on ‘feminist’ problems! We need good male role models who are ready to stand up and make their voices heard :) And at the end of the day, if they can’t define what a woman or a man is, then there’s no reason for them to silence you🤷♀️
@@justyouraveragebaka9493 much love and respect right back to you
The only point I disagree with is that misandry was actually a foundational block of feminism. Also, men are far more oppressed. Courts, education, media, the healthy industry… almost all institutions in western society has an implicit bias against men.
Even rich, popular, well-liked successful men, from Johnny Depp to (depending on who you ask) Donald Trump, a former US president. There's no man on Earth who can't have his life ruined by a false allegation from a spiteful woman. And yet women still think we live in a "patriarchy" to the point they think they're safer in the woods with a mother bear than a man...
Fenimism has NEVER been about "equal rights".
It has been the female gender supremacy CU (movement) LT, from the beginning.
"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men."
--Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1848 - Founding Feminist)
And moving forward and achieving their political goals under the guise of "equality" (just read the dictionary definition!!!!" while never challenging the parts of ideology that scream "YES WE DO HATE MEN AND WANT TO SEE MEN AND BOYS SUFFER AND DIE".
Feminism was created by the Rockefeller clan to destroy the nuclear family, dissolve wages, erradicate the middle class, have full access to all the children from very early on to brainwash them through both the "education" system they control and the idiot box that spits the propaganda they create and control and depopulate.
Yeah, no wonder why you don't like feminism
Yup. So many of these women saying 'feminism is about equality' have clearly never read any of the writing of the OG feminists. And as every movement needs a boogeyman, men have always served as the foil in feminism. Without men to hate, women would never unite.
Incomplete.
"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men, and if we were free and developed, healthy in body and mind, as we should be under natural conditions, our motherhood would be our glory. That function gives women such wisdom and power as no male can possess.”
Nope. It was a hate movement from the start.
More precisely, it started of as a terrorist organisation (bombs in churches, murder, etc.).
Also worth to mention that lot of men still didn't have right to vote despite having to fight in war. Whenever I read/listen to feminists, they make it sound like men always had right to vote and women didn't.
I would not go that far, it was definitely justified in the beginning, but as soon as equality was reached they pushed further and perveted it.
@@user-th5ui4ib3y I don't wanna say that first wave wasn't justified. Their were right in WHAT they claim, but the reason and arguments of HOW they claim, was... ...yes, a hate movement. Right from the start.
Janice Fiamengo in her "Fiamengo Files" and "Fiamengo files 2.0" explain it perfectly why it was a hate movement from the beginning.
It was a movement to double the labour size and then a voting base for politicians after that corpos knew they can't get anymore cheap labour they shipped overseas
After civil rights bill there should have not been more of those movemente but they kept pushing the line, and here we are nowadays
I am a 63 y/o black man, born and raised in Texas. Because I've seen firsthand the many trials and tribulations that women have had to overcome and having 4 sisters, a 34 y/o daughter and countless female relatives, I have always advocated for women's rights and freedoms. But, I also have a 32 y/o son, and I've watched in horror over the past decade or so, the increasing hostility and contempt that this current iteration of feminism directs toward him...and by extension, me. Feminism itself, has seen incredible gains over the decades and has done much to advance women to the point of true autonomy over themselves and their circumstances. However, nothing they've achieved could have been possible without the genuine support of men. For me, therein lies the problem. Women today are more free than any generation of women who came before them. Yet, to hear them tell it, they've never been more oppressed. In truth, they have no idea what real oppression is, but with the current attacks and rollback of many of the freedoms that they once enjoyed, they will learn. The problem now is, with the levels of hate being directed at all men, even the men who once supported them and their causes, what will they do to restore the rights they've already lost and protect the right's they have left? Speaking for myself, I am at odds. As a man,, I cannot, in good conscience continue to support a cause that openly advocates for the extinction of me and my sons gender, but - as a father and girl-dad, I want my daughter to be unrestrained to experience every drop of freedom and right's that she desires and deserves. From my perspective, this situation is untenable and cannot end well, so...I guess, let the war begin.
I had this discussion with a buddy of mine. Basically, women face obstacles, and those obstacles absolutely should be addressed, but none of those obstacles make most men privileged, because most men face significant obstacles too. Here is the list I compiled:
-Selective service still only includes men
-women are most often granted custody of children in spite of statistics showing that children raised by their father fare better in life, further perpetuating the claim that men aren't capable or lack the capacity to be great parents.
-Men commit suicide more frequently than women
-men have less access to domestic violence support even tho studies show men are more likely to refrain from reporting it due the stigma and lack of access.
-Men are injured more on the job than women
-men die more on the job than women
-the lack of higher education that boys are now attaining as confirmed by a recent study, suggest boys are falling behind girls in educational achievement, and will be unable to compete in the job market.
-men are less desirable in day care settings.
-men are charged more for car insurance than women on average.
I actually compiled a list back in the day when I was in college (2019.) Over 250 cited ways that show how men are more disadvantaged in society; ranging from career opportunities, to false allegations, to dating, to laws. Women aren't punished as harshly as men for crimes and get more attention when victims of crimes (especially if they're attractive, first world, upper middle class white women.) So yeah, you could add 241 more things to this list.
How is there still oppression towards women when they have the best human rights and privileges that have been given to them since the early days of feminism? I don't even know why they're still complaining anymore with all the misandry that's been happening. We should be helping each other, not putting each other down.
Women actually have more choice and privileges than men now, if the draft comes back men have little say in whether they see combat or not(if they refuse there's serious punishment), women do. Most women can choose to be promiscuous with the minority of men they're attracted to, most men can't get sex from even average women easily let alone the top 10% most attractive women in their early 20's like few men can. Women can choose to have a career but women could opt out of college and save themselves for marriage and hope to marry a man successful enough for her to be a stay at home mom, 'successful' career women aren't exactly looking for young male virgins to be a stay at home dad.
It's mostly women complaining they can't be promiscuous and get marriage specifically from the men they want, not the majority of men they think they're too good for. Even more of the men most women think they're too good for are refusing to marry women with a past like that rightfully so, what other say do men have anymore? Control of marriage is all men have left now and women want to control that now too. Similar applies to morbidly obese women acting like men rejecting them is 'oppression'.
Also women don't get men being expected to fight wars is a major reason among others men had the vote before women. If men were to say women shouldn't get the vote because of special privileges women have men don't and men traditionally bearing greater burdens and responsibilities women have more of a choice not to bear(and not be judged harshly like men that don't or can't bear them), how is that much different than women saying men have no say in abortion even when it's his child too? Women think men had rights women didn't JUST for being born, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Women literally have equal rights just for being born women without equal responsibility or expectation to bear the kinds of burdens men are expected to bear.
I'm sorry, but young women at 18 don't deserve equal rights and say as grown ass men do, we're seeing the damage that granting women that young independence and freedom does both to young women themselves and society. Women that young can bang all the hot men they want and literally kill their unborn children with the birth control fails and expect not to be judged for it, but God forbid grown men have a right to refuse to wife older women with a past like that. Men should have little say in marriage either.
Because they want it all
It's is and always was a supremacy movement. The same for being socialist and communist movement
Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism. - Cathrine MacKinnon
@@anthonywilliams7052 wait, women wanting to have a choice in what they do is a supremacy movement? Also, socialism and communism in theory has nothing to do with supremacy, it literally stands for the exact opposite.
@@lamaziqali2121 Supremacy when they say they are BETTER, deserved more, we are beneath them, as in they get the jobs first with lower qualifications, they get to use PUUUR - JURY and have zero accountability, they want easier jobs but want to get paid more than the harder jobs. We need them working in construction, mining, hard labor, working in the sewers, fixing the roads, doing pumping, but all they want is the easy office jobs then they use PUUUR - JURY towards anyone they don't like. Never help, never approach, definitely NEVER hire. You need to work the next 60+ years with 40 to 60 hours weeks and not complain, ou need to MAN UP like we are told, be alone forever and pay for yourselves just like you wanted.
Men didnt have the right to vote until they fought in the civil war and it came with the obligation of the draft and other civic obligations what obligations did women get with the right to vote property rights for men came with the obligation to support protect and provide 100% for the wife and kids what obligation did women get with property rights none 100% protection and provision remained with the man and so on and so on women feminism wasnt for equality it was to take rights from men while leaving the obligations on men
Well stated, except it was World War 1, not the civil war. In general, women received the vote shortly after the men did, but the men faced many obligations.
Woman have paid their dues and raised many of our best men. Men have definitely paid our dues and should be respected to the fullest by are female counter parts. But that's not the case the culture is disrespectful and it damages the mental of men and woman. Remember "the pen is mightier then the sword". That's old wisdom from the founding fathers. How we talk each other is vary important to how we are going to continue to interact. We accept people's faults and also understand the human condition and have respect for it. You see homeless on street and it's dehumanizing. It dehumanizes us all. It's terrible what's happening in the United States. They just open the boarders on us. Misandry is just the nail in the coffin.
The other day I heard the best way to describe current feminism "Until feminism starts calling out misandry, then it won't be seen as a misandrist mmovement" And I have seen so much hate towards men is surreal, we are completely demonized ujst for having a penis
even conservative women enjoy the good of the feminist naz1 ideoligy for them. men should not care. men should just let them be. when they ask you to be a real man, just take the beach chair out and grab some popcorn. do not do anything for them because if you do, the next day, they will be right back with their misandrist bs.
Clearly those "milestones" that were handed to them simply cannot be justified.
The very day feminism starts to call out misadnry it ceases to exist. Because nothing will be left behind.
I agree. I also think men who are awake need to try to wake all men up, ESPECIALLY young men on the left who are indoctrinated into self hate. I do NOT believe men should support feminism AT ALL until the misandry stops AT A MINIMUM.
It's a cluster B circus like woke.
You are very misinformed. I recommend that you read Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation by Rachel Wilson. Feminism started during the 1700s, and this insidious movement has been bad since Day 1. Second, women have ALWAYS been able to own their own property before antiquity, during antiquity, and after antiquity. Hundreds of queens have ruled men's kingdoms, and women have been able to be successful business owners. We have documented evidence of women being successful business owners DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE!! These are documented facts that cannot be refuted. I've done my homework. As a result, I'll never see women as victims ever again.
Rachel's book is a must read for anyone who wishes to know the true origins of this demonic movement.
I will definitely check this out. Thank you for sharing!
As an example, it's quite telling that the word Misandry is not even captured/transcribed correctly by the auto caption feature provided by youtube on this video, yet Misogyny is. A case of algorithmic bias?
Check your nearest dictionary for your answer.
It was ALWAYS a supremacy movement when they wanted benefits but no responsibility.
Words can't describe the level of rage and hatred I feel after not only dealing with a lifetime of misandry, but also feeling betrayed by the feminist movement. What I'm going to say isn't to toot my own horn, it's to provide context. I was a feminist before it became mainstream. I remember as a teenager and into early 20s having trouble keeping male friendships, because of how men treated women. When feminism started becoming more mainstream I was happy. At least at first. Then I noticed a disturbing pattern start to manifest. Any time a woman would complain about sexism, men AND women would defend / console her by making some hateful statement like "Ah forget that guy. He's just an angry virgin". Thanks to sociopathic feminists pushing the "punch up" nonsense, body shaming and sex shaming men started to explode in popularity.
I was never the guy that women wanted to date. Of course that never stopped me from caring about them and feeling great disgust and sadness whenever I observed misogyny. However, 95% of that care and empathy has been completely wiped out. I STILL remember COUNTLESS examples of feminists, from forums to shows to content creators, dehumanizing men by shaming their bodies and shaming them for not having sex. That continues to this day. I STILL remember seeing male content creators, that I stopped watching because of their misogyny, all of a sudden "perform" care and empathy for women. And how do they perform that care? Yea you guessed it, they degrade and emotionally abuse men who are low status, fail to get dates, and / or fail to get laid. Then I also start to see that darkness in games where the devs / company behind them claim inclusivity and diversity and then put in some disgusting misandry, usually in the form of body shaming.
Then, once again thanks to feminism, misandry gets an upgrade in the form of a nice little evil label that goes by the name insell. Yes I know that is not how it's spelled. The first time I heard that evil slur, I KNEW it was going to explode in popularity and eventually replace the word misogynist. it turns out I was right. I'm seeing women use the word "insell" as if they forgot the word misogynist exists. Years and years of hearing how the REAL abusers are just guys that don't get dates or are unattractive or are "insecure". It's already painful being lonely and feeling undesirable, and feminists WEAPONIZE that without a quantum particle of care for the genuine good men who are destroyed emotionally by that type of abuse on the daily. There are always excuses along with near infinite amounts of gaslighting. Misandry apparently doesn't exist, BUT if it does then it's only men who express it, BUT if women do it then it's not their fault kuz patriarchy, BUT if it is their fault you shouldn't be bothered because you have male privilege, BUT etc......
I will NEVER EVER forgive feminists or the feminist movement. I will NEVER EVER support that hate movement. I don't care if this evil world sees me as a bad guy for daring to not support that repulsive hate movement. I love myself and I don't support abusers. I wish so bad I could go back in time and show my younger self what his future is like. There were so many times where I felt all types of sadness and angst, because I hated seeing women deal with slo*t shaming, body shaming, and other types of evil. I can't believe this is how the future turned out. Then 'progressives' want to gaslight by constantly pulling the "Gee why are men mad?? Why are so many young men skewing conservative??? O well they must be insecure! It's all Andrew Tate's fault!"
Agreed, not ever again in my lifetime will I ever support that hate group not even if they improve in some sense.
And what have u done for men who have been wrongfully accused? So much empathy for wolves in sheep's clothing and to the honest man.....rocks?
There will be a tidal wave of rage coming women's way. I hope they garnered enough rights to be able to deal with it.
Liberal democracies are slowly coming to a close. Conservatism will rise. The world will again change.
But men will never forget what happened during these past 50 years. And women may need their support at some point in the future.
This time none will come.
The misandry and the misogyny are the both sides of the same coin-the hatred that divides humanity from the inside
19A was a lethal mistake. Feminism has happened several times, just read "Women's Parlament" by Euripides. It was a comedy but it's our tragedy.
You must be thinking of Assemblywomen by Aristophanes
@@city_of_coompton6832Thank you. I realized the error later, but I forgot where I did posted.
It is indeed a lethal mistake. Every democracy and republic that granted women political power collapsed within four generations of that mistake. So consistent is the consequences that it seems to be an iron-clad law of nature. The West is proving every day that it will not be the first exception to the rule, and that it is proceeding to its fate on schedule.
"Give women the vote and they will become your masters" - Cato the Elder, Roman senator
I think that the misandry was probably present since 1st wave feminism. I dont doubt that there were many influential women who hated men that were pushing feminism, and Im sure if I read some books written by prominent feminists from that era I could find that it is there, but I dont think it was a vast sentiment from feminists of that era. I do think that that sentiment grew through the waves of feminism and didnt really become systemic until the 2nd and 3rd wave feminism.
The reason I say systemic is because it was working its way into academia, where the misandry really thrives. Those were the places that were producing the sentiment that men need to be quiet and listen to women, or that men dont get an opinion about women, especially in association to abortion. They were also producing the sentiment that men in general are an oppressor to women. I think the misandry really ramped up with 2nd wave, is because 3rd wave feminism was the one that really showed the increasing attacks on men, and I dont believe it just popped out of nowhere. It was also true that during the 90s you had alot of feminist media, attacking men and creating negative stereotypes, so the sentiment was pretty pervasive, atleast in Hollywood and New York.
I think that 3rd wave could probably be considered as disguised misandry, where as 4th wave feminism is when it becomes overt, and you have feminists actively saying "I hate men". I Think that this sentiment will only get worse too, because those same feminists, that are saying "I hate men", will now be teaching future feminists that sentiment, and those future feminists will only become more radicalized.
The main problem I have with feminism is that it only pushes in one direction. This means that as society changes from feminism trying to push against oppression, they keep pushing and eventually they over-corrected and men start suffering, while feminists keep pushing so the system becomes even more unbalanced. Divorce court could be an easy example of this, or child custody, even child support in general, as well as paternity rights. If you believe that women should have the right to choose to be a parent, why would you not extend that same right to men? Why is primary custody the standard, when shared custody should be the goto if you're goal is equality? Why is alimony still a thing if women are capable of working and are equal to men? Why do feminists push back against dna tests to verify paternity, when seeking child support? why is child support still a thing when both parents are equally capable of working, and should be sharing custody?
Those are just some of the issues that create imbalance, and yet, when asked, current feminists will defend that imbalance, or even say it is good that it exists, because women are oppressed so it is good that men are made to suffer. The main problem with current feminism, is that it seeks to make men suffer, or even destroy them, which will only lead to women also suffering since we are both on this boat together. If men fail, women too will follow. We were supposed to be creating a system that both sexes benefit, because only then can we create a better society, but feminists are generally working against that goal. It is especially so if you happen to be a white male, because then for some reason your magically supposed to not suffer. how do you think someone would fair, if their problems are not only ignored, but they are ridiculed for saying they have problems at all? Most definitely nothing good.
It definitely has been present. Women shamed men in world war 1 with the white feather movement who didnt want to participate in the war. Look it up, they definitely got off to that
I can't wait for the next wave. It will be fun to watch.
Same thing will happen with misandry what happened with racism, it will go too far and less and less people will be attracted to it. But I would lie if I would say I don't enjoy watching them fail to use logic. Maybe because I became cynical and my humor became dark but I like watching what happening in this world today. The Roman Empire is falling, but the world will continue and it will be better. Why not enjoy the fall then?
@@Zodroo_Tint I kind of agree with you on wanting to watch the shitshow, but like with lots of other things, it sucks that it has to hurt real people. Also, daily reminder that the good 'ol first-wavers were massive racist/classists, lol.
Yeah people just bashes men, and keep making up lies about them. unlike misogyny, misandry is just ignored and normalized and nobody is doing anything when people claim they hate women and girls, people exposes them and calls them out. But when people claim they hate men and boys, no one is doing anything.
They do; they celebrate it. They clap and cheer. They're congratulating the expressions of narcissistic misandry. They say things like "you go girl!" "gurrrl power!". They claim it's "empowering", "liberating", "uplifting" to show disdain, contempt, hostility, violence, verbal violence, emotional violence, sexual violence, and deadly violence against men and boys. Every feminist movie, song or product of the entertainment industry is a female power fantasy, female "revenge" fantasy and female supremacy fantasy.
Fantasies they want to bring to reality.
No women are not opresed
gender pay gap was disprooven numerous times
correct.
Except at one time, it was common practice to pay people more if they were supporting a family. A man supporting a wife and kids, a widow with kids etc. In most families (except for the well-off) most adults worked, and women stopped when preparing for and raising kids, including grand children. Afterward most women would return to the workforce or assist in community or charity activities.
As a former feminist I loved this video. It was clear and well explained. I consider this to be a very fair critic to the modern feminist movement and I hope more and more women like you start to speak their minds too. You gained a new subscriber. Greetings from Colombia ☺
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@@HannahJenarine Feminism hasn't shifted. It's doing exactly what it was designed to do, pit men and women against each other. There's no such thing as good feminists. There are only 3 kinds of feminists, evil ones (aka radicals), naive ones, and dead ones.
Feminist beleive that they have everything at their finger tipa today because they fought for it, whike yes to a degree but the truth is men gifted woman with all the rights, privileges and freedoms they have today. While i have great respect for old school feminists, no amount of squaking would have gotten them what they wantes if men did not actually want them to have it.
Man hating feminists today forget that men gifted them everything they have at their finger tips and men can so easily take it all away again if they so choose.
Then just what are we waiting for?
@@Yeetmaster3000-co4on, merely waiting for a plurality of men to agree, and progress is being made in that regard as men grow increasingly weary of the ever increasing misandry.
@@Yeetmaster3000-co4on We are in minority. Majority of men are simps.
@@Yeetmaster3000-co4on instead of bloodying our hands needlessly we simply..... wait for it.... live. You see in why our consciences are clear, we can sleep at night knowing we fought off a very real and very deep longing to do harm. and the best part? watch this shit fall to pieces trying to make two compentimary pieces "equal"
@@wargpug6084 No, that approach is not getting us anywhere. Our consciences will be clear when the man-hating movement that is feminism is wiped out and no more men need to suffer needlessly will carrying the weight of an entire civilization. The movement is not falling apart fast enough. And what's more it's still taking millions of young women down with it. "Bloodying our hands needlessly" is not quite so needless as you'd like to believe. People with your mindset are the whole reason why we're losing this war.
I love how the only way she can conceive of misandry is limited to hateful speech, even though she is trying
Two people do the exact same work, equally well. (the premise is that it is possible to measure with perfect accuracy)
Both men, pay one of them less: Fine.
Both women, pay one of them less: Fine.
One man, one woman, pay the man less: Fine.
One man, one woman, pay the woman less: Lawsuit.
What can be expected from a society that enforces this dynamic?
Discuss.
''' Ma'am he's the manager, he gets higher pay than all of us"'
Harassment has a very clear standard to be considered harassment. It is not enough that someone is mistreating you, you must issue a notice to the person to stop, and then the other person must continue the behavior before it is harassment.
The reason for this is because it has to be unwanted, so you must let the other person know that what is happening is unwanted, not expect them to just know. The reason it is a verbal warning too, is because this is to accommodate, people that are socially inept, such as people that cannot read nonverbal language or social cues.
I believe there really can't be any harmony with intersectionality, since under that outlook any discrepancy between what you want/feel you deserve and what you're getting becomes someone else's fault, and attacking them is how you get it. It really can only produce escalating animosity, and stops people from pursuing any other course of action to get what they want.
🤔 well said 👍
Intersectionality has become a conspiracy theory over time. It might have been a useful model to explain certain setbacks by a specific subset of people. Yet to use it as the blueprint to explain how society as a whole operates in terms of inclusion/exclusion is utter BS and shows a lack of intellectual integrity. Different groups are oppressed by or discriminate against different groups in society, based on parameters that vary according to the kind of discrimination involved. Blaming one group for everyone else's failures is far too simplistic
@@barendvanw5047 Even worse, it's become the justification to discriminate against certain groups, now. We've regressed back to actual systemic discrimination.
Well of course, it was designed specifically to subvert, dismantle, detail, create confusion and separate people. Using well-known psychological tricks to use human psychological weaknesses to turn people against each other and weaken society as a whole. Not to 'liberate' anybody.
I can only testify that the misandry movement is pretty rampant in the workplace today. As a man I find it really troubling, because I do appreciate several of said colleagues on an individual level, yet as a group they sound like a pretty hateful bunch. One thing I noticed is that it's mostly women in their 30s and early 40s, whereas younger female colleagues tend to have views that are more moderate
Bravo Hannah. How to stop misandy? Misandry is clearly not addressed as much as misoginy and is actually accepted by society, laws and policies on domestic violence, women raping men...
Look up karen straughan
And Dr. Janice Fiamengo. And Suzanne Venker. And Cassie Jaye's The Red Pill documentary film.
(Janice is flawless ❤)
The thing is that modern feminism is identical to every other wave of feminism. The only difference is the previous waves already achieved some goals of feminism, leaving the other goals to future waves. But the goals, attempts, and methods aren’t really any different now than then.
can anyone explain to me how the first thing they achieved was voting without being drafted? but men still have to sign up to the draft. can anyone explain how THAT is EQUAL? and why nobody seems to talk about it
Very nicely covered, Hannah.
My take is that misandrists and female supremacists are not feminists by definition. I use every opportunity to call out the fake feminists in the hope that some true feminists stand against them and also label them as misandrists or female supremacists and not a feminist. I think that if enough people did this then the "Feminist Movement" might actually become a real feminist movement. I call myself an egalitarian but I'm technically a feminist too. Oh, I class the Patriarchy Theory as sexist, it would do better to address class differences rather than blaming men. Only a very few men are in power at a time.
I cannot think of any legal thing that women need for equality. The law works to the favour of women if in any direction, especially with child custody. The whole believe all women thing was barmy. I respect and trust women as much as men. But when things get this illogical I remember that there is a lot of money in feminism. They have to create problems when none exists in order to keep raking in the money. The same can happen with some work unions.
Also, I wonder whether the Government is using it. I have doubts that feminism started with women, I think that it was a capitalist movement to maximise workers and improve the countries standing on the world stage. Saying that, I'm glad that women have improved rights/freedoms.
There is no need for misandry, other than for people to expose themselves as bigots with no integrity.
Thank you for sharing! What a great perspective! I never thought about the feminist movement as a capitalist movement in disguise. You might be on to something...
@@HannahJenarine Thanks. I've not heard it anywhere else that I can remember but it's a connection that I cannot ignore.
I like capitalism, but not unchecked capitalism. I don't think that the Western World even has true democracy, largely because of a loophole that I see.
In our democracy we always end up with two main parties.
If you were super wealthy then you'd buy out two parties. Make one party appeal to left brain hemisphere thinkers and vice versa.
You still have to compete against all the other parties, as it's a democracy. The goal of your candidates is not just to win voters but to also scare the people that that won't vote for you anyway.
Now people start voting almost entirely for the two parties because they want to guarantee that the other side doesn't get in. No one wants the "wasted vote" Instead of voting for what everyone thinks is best you end up with a small selection of mostly corrupt candidates that do a poor job for the public but fulfill the goals that you set them, being the big money you probably want to suck the population dry over time. You'd pay off the media. I trade on the stock market and Bitcoin and know for a fact that the media gets paid to put out huge market manipulation stories to fleece people of their money. The level of corruption is deep. The stock market is currently at a decider phase, it is possible for the economy to either do really well this year or go terribly, I currently expect the latter but hope I'm wrong. The charts are more honest than our media or governments.
If we had a true democracy then I'd expect many parties being competitive to win votes, like how businesses do better deals and provide a better service when there is lots of competition.
To me it seems like, if my hypothetical loophole is possible then it has probably already happened and it's the super wealthy in charge. I'm not asserting this to be true, but it's a creepy thought! 😅
As money is power.
I'm tired and went on a bit too much, so I hope it makes sense. Is another perspective that we cannot know but it seems very fishy to me. I'm no Illuminati conspiracy theorists, I just makes connections that make me wary.
Take care!
So if you are a Femunist you believe in equality for men too?
Femunists demand equality in areas where women are disadvantaged.
When are women going to demand and get equality in the areas where men are disadvantaged ?
Reproductive rights, homelessness, prisons, taxation, social se4vices, victimisation by crime in these and others areas and more women are advantaged over men yet there is silence from femunists.
We are not a democracy, rather a constitutional republic. This empowers each person with rights, whereas in a democracy, the majority rules. A good example is gun control, where a person has the right to have a gun. I believe a majority of Americans oppose this so in a democracy guns would be outlawed.
In many areas, we do not have true capitalism. There are many areas where govt steps in, such as health insurance and the medical system. What a mess! It's my understanding that if you offer to pay the hospital in cash you can get an 80% discount!
For me it's the hypocrisy that gets me. If misogyny is so bad and should be hated with such zeal then why is it's counterpart, misandry, not just tolerated but actively celebrated? Why is the victim of one lifted up while the victim of the other is gaslighted and dismissed?
I'm a 30 yo man and haven't dated since my 19th
And it was mostly online hate and seeing the wrong women online too much, I had such a feeling of being unwanted and hated when I haven't even done anything.
That I just believed all women hated me for being a man, especially feminists.
Which I never understood because personally I've always viewed men and women as equal humans.
There's some different attributes and talents in a general sense between the sexes (theres always a exception to generalisation too)
but one's life is not less or more valuable that the other imo and I wish it was the norm for a lot of men AND women.
All I'd ever wish for is to find a women who likes me back and would like to work as a team together.
Build a bond, have reciprocated intimacy and effort put into eachother.
I'd respect her trials and tribulations as a women through life.
Because yes I actually think there's still some area's where women tend to get oppressed.
I personally see that no there's not much of a glass ceiling career wise.
But I also see that society still largely is more based around men.
A lot of men (and even women) in private western branches do still view that when it comes down to it, a man's expertise is taken more seriously, and underneath all the superficial feminist virtue signalling, the actions of society towards many women are still very judgemental.
And also in the dating world.
A lot of women will never truly trust or feel rather you just love them for them, or that you just love sex enough.
Sadly those women truly think that the most we want out of partnership is sex. no ladies, this simply mixed up with intimacy we want intimacy and sex is also the ultimate sign of feeling welcome to the deepest (no pun intended) level.
That said, I also think that there's a lot of opposite, there's a lot of hate towards men for the wrong reasons, and also career wise, men (especially white men) are actively being held back from making a career, being ostracized, and although women do get judged for bad behaviour, it seems these day men get even more judged, even for neutral behaviour or even help.
And help, there's no help for men, there's no safe spaces for men to be masculine, they're all encroached.
Where as women get all kinds of safe spaces and women only facilities.
And the care, in many western countries there's a lot of subsidiaries for women's mental health and far less and sometimes zero for men even though they make up the majority of suicides.
And misandry is not the answer, and neither is misogyny from out side.
Misandry kept me away from what would possibly make me happy.
And I'm afraid the same is already happening to many women.
They're angry at men who have nothing to do with their problems, but deep down they're miserable and alone and need a partner.
They say they're never happier but when you look at their actions, they're self destructive like a person who hates and loathes themselves..
It's a tragedy really, and all without reason, because most men they think they hate, they would probably love as a partner because he's totally different person from what they think he is.
You know what? it's too late, since we're in the final stages of Calhoun Experiment. Women have an ingrained disdain for men, and it was education and tradition the ones keeping tolerable but now it's rampant.
Truth is most women are bad people. It's not all their faults they are brainwashed by the satanic left media that controls everything. They are taught from a young age Men specifically white men are evil and all this nonsense.
Women have always had more 'rights' than men. It's just that people take for granted and dismiss the protective and provisional rights women get that men dont. The big problem with feminism in all of its waves or sects, is that it only advocates for so called equality where women get the rights men enjoyed. Rights that allowed men to focus in a male dominated space of the workplace and finance (because men were expected to provide for and protect women and children). Feminism does not advocate that men get the rights women enjoy such as more protections and privilege's of provision. So what happens always with feminism is it essentially gives more rights and privilege's to women, allowing women to compete with men in their spaces, while not allowing men or shaming men for daring to want or compete against women in their female spaces. Further, feminism never fights hard to demand women share the same level of accountability with men for those rights such as fighting on the front lines , in the trenches or working the hardest jobs or even equality under the law and sentencing. I know many people like to think that earlier feminism was all innocent just advocating for fairness for women, but they are ignorant to the truth behind who started these feminist sects, what they actually did to people, what they really advocated for. If 1st wave feminism had social media 100 years ao, they would be just as bad if not worse than todays harpy feminists.
Misandry , man hating is not just modern day feminism, and feminism doesnt just treat men unfairly, it treats real women unfairly too. Women who love men, who want to be homemakers and care for their husbands. Feminism has always been about competing with men, and getting more power.
Feminists love to fake oppression in order to get more undeserved benefits. And weak governments keep conceding just to get their vote.
Hi Hannah, Great Presentation, intelligent and level headed; well worth a listen.
As a person who is old enough to have been in college in 1977, I remember when the infamous quote, " 'A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.' - Irina Dunn First emerged. So while your not wrong in that Misandry has definitely surfaced in the last decade, there was IMHO, an ever present element of Misandry from the beginning. Today I think though it has become so much more virulent and acceptable.
In 1983 I definitely would have described myself as a feminist. My daughter was two, and did not and would not want her opportunities to be diminished by her gender. Today I think, a man would have to be a self loathing fool to describe himself as a feminist in this present moment.
That is not so say, that the job is done. While women in the West enjoy rights and opportunities that women in previous decades or in other regions could, or can, only dream of; the striking down of Roe, IMHO, speaks to the sad reality there are still all to many persons who would like to roll that progress back.
I do think that while, Racism, Classism, gender discrimination, are all real and need addressing, To my mind the greatest threat to our Country and Our World is a rise in irrationality. It has become acceptable to hate the other side of the Aisle, whatever the Aisle. And compromise is viewed as weakness; that I fear will not lead to a renewal of our social contract(s) but their destruction.
So your calm, thoughtful well reasoned voice is most welcome, Brightest Blessings, and wishing you much success. BB.
i remember womens lib and i always supported it. as far as i'm concerned feminism is a hate group.
Now suddenly women come out of the woodwork to defend men... Smells like fish to me.
These should be the videos getting hundreds of thousands of views, not thirst traps & pranks. Good stuff 👏
The trouble with feminism is they only compare half of the equation. They want equal number of women in high privileged positions, but nowhere in the feminist movement do they seek to have equality at the bottom (i.e. equality amongst the number of males and females in the prison population). If you want equality across the board then it has to be both at the top and the bottom.
One of the issues that has often been raised is that males tend to be greater risk takers than women, and in taking risks they sometimes gain profit from successful risks and severe losses from risks that failed. Some women want all the profit without the risk.
Very well articulated. Hope more people notice your hard work.
I hope my response doesn't get invalidated because I am a cis Asian man who doesn't even live in America. I tend to keep my attention on what is happening in the US because, especially the social and human rights movement, it will affect people worldwide.
First, thank you for shining some light on misandry or some perception biases about men.
I am sceptical of many feminist narratives. Their initial motives might be good, but how they portray them is problematic. Like in patriarchy theory, it is not a system that men created for men as a collective but simply a male-dominated society. They focus on the upper classes' privilege instead of considering all men. Some men might hold the core of political power, but a country or tribe runs at men's expense, like being drafted to war and infrastructures. It ignored the historical reasons behind the social norms. I am not saying no women are oppressed in history, but there is much more depth in it. In the modern gender pay gap discussion, the 0.77 to 1 ratio mostly doesn't consider paternity leave and job selection. The false allegations and male victims of SA and DV are hard to find accurate statistics as many cases go underreported and ignored. The list can still go on and on.
All those narratives and theories accumulated to create an imaginary monster called "men." It makes perfect sense why hating men is so normalized.
I identify myself as a left-leaning person(but obviously, I will be seen as a more conservative person on the scale of the US). I don't think both men and women are systematically oppressed by society in most developed countries, but we have our advantages and disadvantages because of biological differences and social perceptions. Not all advantages are privileges, and not all disadvantages are oppression. Equality should always be about being treated equally but not seen as identical. There are still many things that can be done for women and also for men.
Men and women should work together to achieve equality. If feminism is about equality, they should not be hostile to men.
PS: I know not all feminists are bad, but I see enough self-claimed feminists, politicians, and celebrities being hostile or even misandry to men without any consequences. They have their part of the responsibility and should call out misandrist behaviour on their side, too. The same logic applies to "not all men" and how they require men to stand with them in the Metoo movement.
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All feminists are bad.
You're much better informed than many Americans, congrats!. Well done.
I like foreigners to express their views as they see things differently usually more objectively.
That you are left-leaning there but conservative here is a surprise, I thought most countries are liberal/left-leaning. Oops. Stereotyping. My bad. I was trying to ask where, and what type of govt.
Perhaps New Wave Fem****m is cobfusing because they claim they want equality, but actually want equality if outcome, better known as equity. Also known as impossible.
"Cis" is a term used by queers and non-binaries to dehumanize straight people. The queer community seeks our erasure from society. Kindly refrain from using their words. Their behavior deserves no dignity. Secondly, there is no such thing as good feminists, only the radicals, the naive, and the dead.
Why call yourself cis Asian men? You're using the language of fem inists and the LGBTQ brigade for no good reason
This is the most cogent, coherent explanation I've heard on this topic.
It's honestly so refreshing hearing women speak on this topic instead of constantly demonizing guys for no reason.
If only there were more women like you who could use their brains and see the truth and not be on power-hungry rampage to destroy us guys
machismo and feminism are the same thing (an ideology) only that feminism is perceived as something positive while the other as negative and this is due to the fact that while males are busy finding a place in this world women have so so many privileges that they can afford the time to make feminist propaganda with which to paint and shape the public perception of reality
in my opinion the problem lies in the laws that discriminate based on sex (driven by ideological propaganda rather than by the simple logic of treating everyone the same)
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misinger (*2)
It's the only word that the closed captioning algorithm refused to pick up.
I've noticed this in some cases with the word (misspelling to make sure I'm not censored) uh-thor-uh-tear-ee-an-ism (it starts with an a).
Well articulated and relevant 👍
A question to all women; what legal rights do men have that men do not?
I'm looking forward to hearing your answers.
I chalk up a lot of the recent anti-man talk to attention seeking, exacerbated by social media. An easy way to get noticed these days is to say something outrageous.
It is absolutely attention seeking, but we should still treat them like they mean what they say. They have to learn eventually their actions carry weight. Let them figure it out the hard way, the same way we had to.
I do believe, like you said, oppression is subjective. It all depends on the environment, if you're lucky enough to have good people around you or not and also depends on how sensitive/vulnerable you are. I was reading a comment about how men are also oppressed by society in general and I never really thought about it because in general men are culturally taught that we shouldn't complain about things and that's one reason a lot of men take things silently and su1cide rates are high among men. Men and women can be oppressed equally but men don't have special laws that protect us. It's every man for themselves.
Q1. Modern Western Women are the safest, most secure, most pampered and most privileged form of life to ever walk the surface of the Earth.
Q2. There is no significant distinction between modern feminist ideology and gendercidal psychopathy (as concerns the treatment of men).
thank you for the informative video.
Great video Hannah.
Ladies, do men ever face discrimination because they are men?
And note, be careful of what you say as it can expose your biases.
I feel like feminists (and all activists irrespective) need to grow up and understand that just because there might be an "answer" does not mean there is the answer. Idealism is alignment. Reality is realignment. Everyone has to deal with reality. Equality is not possible across a constantly simultaneously progressing, regressing, and stagnant divided landscape. The real world is more complicated than activists of all stripes imply it is in their campaigns to bring "change."
It's more beneficial long term to push for values of unity and decency than "fight" for a true or false but questionable marginalized class. Enmity doesn't lead to invitation and grace. Civility and hospitality lead to invitation and grace. It's true on the micro and on the macro. Unfortunately, people need to learn this as individuals because they have to learn everything that illuminates this to understand it as individuals.
I chuckle when I hear hardcore feminists talk as if a society where women are in charge of everything, and women are performing every jobs would be a utopia......😂😂😂
-- Women would be in harmony with nature--green plants and flowers would be everywhere.
-- Women would be in harmony with the animals--lions, tigers, and alligators would say "hello" in the morning.
-- There would be no more hunger, no more disease, no more disputes, and no more war.
Feminism should have evolved into humanism after the 2nd Wave feminism, but sadly it didnt and instead degenerated into a very dark path which only divides society now.
Sadly we men can´t help you with that, because our help is clearly unwanted by feminists, so i hope that some day there rises a charismatic Feminist, that just remembers we are all humans and leads all of us back on the path of humanism, so wo can work all together on a brigther future for all regardless of gender/race or whatever, because we are all just humans.
And yes i know i am a hopeless dreamer :D
Very well spoken.
I really appreciated your balanced views and video. I’m a 39 year old white man and I can honestly say I have also heard more hate towards who I am in recent years. Both against being white and being a man. It’s really quite shocking to me as I was raised and believed whole heartedly to not judge people on their race or gender. The whole world has seemed to pivot towards putting extreme prejudice on race and gender and perceived superiority and power over others. Again I thought we were striving towards a blind eye towards these topics and equally treatment towards people but I feel and hear the opposite. This has greatly affected my confidence and my feelings of belonging to the greater community. I feel self conscious and I feel badly about what others think about me. I feel this was and is the goal of these people because they feel these feelings about themselves and believe they feel these emotions because of my group which now they can exact revenge. Despite me never trying to make anyone feel less than in my life.
This was the best explanation of feminism I've heard to date. Well done. It's unfortunate that the different waves of feminism all get lumped under one single banner today which borders misandry. This makes it untenable to support for most and only aleniates those who would otherwise support a valid and worthwhile cause. As a man, I may someday have a daughter and I'd be damned if I would be okay with some dude treating her less than. At the same time, I would not condone her feeling oppressed simply because she was born female and the media today says she's therefore oppressed.
Well articulated and expressed.
I just call it "the gender wars", it's a worldwide thing, I like the S. Korea examples, it can be isolationist, but look how many more women than men are becoming queer. We also see a smaller subset of men, dating, etc. a larger group of females as hypergamy evolutionary tales gear up.
Talk with people who perpetrate violence against men and many of them will say proudly "I don't hit women and children!". However, courts consider their violent acts to be gender-neutral, while they are actually at least partly gender-based.
I used to perceive myself as a male feminist until I drew the conclusion that it came from being uncomfortable with my own sex due to messages I got from society. I really feel for men who take some of these anti-male sentiments to heart without questioning them and harbouring self-hatred as a result.
Whatever the case, men need to emancipate themselves just as much as women need to if we are ever to have peace. None of the sexes should have to suffer just because of their sex.
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The truth isn't "subjective"
Morals aren't "subjective"
Why would a woman want a "career"?
brainwashing by the satanic left. Women are supposed to elevate men and their community, but they buy into the lies that having a career is most important thing.
I believe feminisum got it wrong men provided for women and still do I see those women as privileged.
Working class women have always worked and working class men got the vote much later as well.
Women in the work place is great but the effect it has had on dating has meant women want the same sort of guy. No regard to the average guy which has lead to the rise in incel and Mgtow communities.
Early laws were extreme and brutal and the concept of coverture was developed so that families as a unit could be held responsible for the offences and responsibilities of its members, and allowing the head of the family to negotiate on behalf of its members. It was not unknown for a family member to take the punishment for someone else, or if permitted to pay penalties. Normally assets of the families would be held jointly and administrated by the head of the family. But occasionally, a family member, ( usually a wife) will retain and control assets from her original family and they would not be fully protected/covered by the family.
It was still possible for a family member to earn money and keep it. Please note that under coverture the head of the family would be responsible for taxes and could be bankrupted by money earned by a family member. It was never impossible for a women to own property, it was just very inconvenient to the family as a whole. Karen Straughan wrote a great description in some of her videos.
This is definitely an example of how two things can be true at the same time: yes, women are still oppressed for the bodily-autonomy reasons you mentioned, although conditions have vastly improved over the years… but for any oppression that remains, the solution to that is not the hatred of men, the minimization of their problems, etc.
And I certainly don’t agree with this feminism-is-cancer comments section I’m reading here 😒 women, the solution to your remaining societal problems is not hating men. Men, the solution to your loneliness and alienation is not hating women, or even hating feminism. Hate can’t fix hate.
I’ve just been told misandry doesn’t exist. I don’t understand the logic behind that statement.
Idk, maybe it's just a human nature thing.
There comes a point where asserting your own interests is going to come at a cost for someone else, and nobody wants to eat the turd.
We need the DRAFT applied equally and the same on the front lines. They can do anything a man can.
It’s a huge misconception thinking feminism has changed from when it started, it hasn’t, what’s changed are the times.
feminism has always been about hating men and women being victims of men, regardless of era or wave.
Check out Janice fiamingo, honey badgers.
There’s a movie called The Bostonians from the 70s, based on a book from over 100 years ago, it shows first wave feminism as it was. That characters in that movie are 100% carbon copies of the characters in Barbie movie, same words, same speeches, same attitudes.
There's a theory that govt/feminism pushed women to work so more tax revenue. Then kept raising taxes to force women to work because the one-income family became unworkable.
But hey that's just a theory
@@godgamingmaster770 I don't believe in coincidences
@@kittell6486 wow so you will literally blame everything on men
@@kittell6486 even getting eqal wage isn't enough to to cry about your "suffering"
@@godgamingmaster770 Hardly. Where did that come from?
There is one thing rarely discussed regarding this issue. For all of the early "movement" came from wealthy wives who had plenty of servants and were just basically bored. For example, the vast majority of women did not care about voting rights. Women were mostly married and had large families that keep them occupied and just let the men worry about things like politics. So, while women got "the right" to vote they now had the "responsibility" to vote. The average woman just asked her husband who to vote for because they had no time or interest in politics. With this in mind, apply the same scenario to pretty much everything else that came with "the movement". You will find it was mostly wealthy women from big cities pushing for things while the vast majority of women were fine with the status quo. Fast forward to 2024 and the average women is now miserable. To put it another way, it was a movement driven by "Karens".
Thank you
To all young 20-somethings; where do you want to be in your lives when you reach 40?
Think about that deeply as it will help you in focusing your short and medium term goals to get there.
And lastly, to the women; if you want a family by then, you need to be working towards that goal much, Much earlier than you think. Remember, by the time the men you want reach their early and mid 30's they're either already married, or have enough personal power to choose younger women. Best you keep that reality in mind.
Its not new.....just backed by the system and exercised more freely
Less robotic. Feels like a student giving a lecture for her hs history class.
I liked the idea of what feminism was (and is) trying to do ; and actually did; but that was 40 plus years ago. I don't like where it has gone since then. Example; I got on an elevator at the same time as a female; something went wrong and we were delayed getting to the ground floor. She said; (sneeringly) "must be made by a man". I chuckled and left the elevator. But what I wanted to say was ; would you bash Jews to a Jew?; would you bash Muslims to a Muslim?; would you bash gays to a gay person? Why is it OK to bash men to men's faces? Maybe because we take it ; chuckle and move on; muttering an adjective or two about that person. It seems women are now treating men with the same contempt that men used to treat women with; and still do in some cultures.
Misandry and the movements that engendered it are not only an American problem but endemic to Western society. Unfortunately, I see no solution to removing this toxicity that has become entrenched in our lives. It's interesting that only recently are females speaking up about the issue. Perhaps because now they are experiencing pain in the dating scene. We could have used your help 30 years ago. It's too little and definitely too late.
I would hazard a guess that certain sections of women are "oppressed". I don't know if it has anything to do with their sex though. is there race oppression still and if so, then are those women more oppressed? Could we divide this into more conservative and liberal areas? I think it's nuanced and subjective. People from the 3rd world probably think women here have it pretty damn good. Are we not all oppressed by culture in some ways and then that becomes our personality and we oppress ourselves. Having a fiat currency doesn't help.
As far as misandry... I don't know if it's on the uptick... Men have always been made fun of in many ways and been made to bear it. Once again, if we take it personal, as men, that can be our choice. We like to "break each others balls" quite often. So we're used to that, but lately I've been seeing things more clearly as misandry, and it kind of bugs me that there's just a double standard. Certainly misandry in the common vernacular doesn't help. Comedic relief is a different story.
Hannah, do you have frizzy hair naturally?
Even if some women claim they don't agree with the movement, they aren't going to actually do anything to counter it and they certainly won't give up any perceived "gains" from the movement. They might make some cute videos that will appeal to a male audience because you can grow a channel off of the unhappy men that were targeted by a hate movement, but other women will largely ignore this stuff and nothing will change. Let's see some laws change and then we will talk.
It was always a hate movement. Janice Fiamango has covered this in depth.
"modern"
That is _redundant_
*All of it has to go.* 💊
The micro cycle(80 years):
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create baby boomers
Baby boomers create hard times...
The macro cycle(800-1200 years):
Hard times create patriarchy(where positive rights are dependent on responsibilities, since men usually take more responsibilities than women this system is described as patriarchy)
Patriarchy creates good times
Good times creates feminism(equal rights independent of responsibilities)
Feminism burns everything down, creating hard times...
Men fight and die so that men can get a vote
Men fight and die so that women can vote
Men fight and die because of what women voted for
When all the men are dead from conquest only the conquering men get a vote.
To Adam God said, "Because YOU LISTENED TO YOUR WIFE & ate from the tree about which I commanded you not to:
Cursed is the ground because of you, through painful toil you will eat of it, all the days of your life."
-Genesis 3:17
Man's hiearchy of needs:
1 Safety
2 Food & Water
3 Shelter & Sleep
4 Social & Sexual needs
5 Communal & self esteem needs
6 Self Actualization
In every category of need in men's hierarchy women needs are met better than men's, yet every election women vote to take more from men and give more to themselves.
Women's hiearchy of needs:
1 Equality of Opportunity
2 Equality of Outcome
3 Equality of Authority
4 Equal Authority with no Responsibility
5 100% of the Authority with 0% Responsibility for the women, with 100% of the Responsibilities & 0% Authority for the man or men(especially sexual Responsibilities & Authorities).
A tyrant has 100% authority with 0% responsibility.
A slave has 100% responsibility with 0% authority.
Today marriage, as redefined by the female democratic majority and family court system, makes the man a slave to a tyrant wife, who can divorce him at will, stealing his children, his wealth, and his human dignity.
All womens natural unregulated desire is to have sex with high status bad bad boys and get innocent men to pay for the responsibility consequences(abortions, kids ect.). That's why women, no matter how meritocratic, should never vote.
Women want equal rights authority to make all the decisions in their own life when the alpha f*cks opportunity is there. Its when responsibility slowly comes knocking that women want to shift responsibility back over to innocent men. Women want to sit at the poker table of the socio-sexual market place & make bets & authorize promises in the hundreds of thousands in reproductive costs when they can only actually back up a few pennies worth of responsibility. If women CAN'T take responsibility for a AUTHORIzation, then they CAN'T have equal AUTHORIty/rights as the guy who can.
Every election women slant the system increasingly more in their favor.
Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from women and I'll show you 100 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and Ill show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism.
"Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization building men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long."
Brilliant. Even if you didn't write it all yourself.
the world is run by strong marriages/family and the psychological , emotional, spiritual condition of the commoner. The commoners fend for themselves, the others operate with greater support. " The Worthless to Women Coalition ", shall rise to power, the common man doesn't want the pressure laid on him by the machine. Greater freedom, pricklier boundaries.
Well spoken young lady
Not like I’m super old at 34
But it’s a nice change of pace
Against those tik tok misandric preachers
Also thanks for having all your clothes on
1:46 have custody of _their_ children, how's that working out? " _Their_ children " this is a clever equivocation. *Applause*
Sadly it seems many American women have reached the “Fury of women Scorned” state of mind; and not absolutely always without reasons worthy of sympathy. The tragedy of it is that it’s just another form of despair; the female equivalent of men’s despair of not investing in any drive to develop themselves into ideal family oriented men. And it’s a vicious cycle when the two despairs dance around each other: reinforcing and validating each others insecurities unconsciously which both often don’t realize that they’ve had internalized for many years.
Effectively the two sexes seem to be locked in a stalemate of varying proportions of defense mechanism and ways to self-soothe themselves as a form of escapism from the ugly reality that’s broadly applicable to a broad portion of us.
With no agreed upon status quo structure to mediate upon a proper model where both are content: it’s difficult to say where we collectively ought to go from here..
The trouble is a western woman's life is so easy and privileged that they need to create the drama of being oppressed. Weak governments keep giving in to get their vote. The more benefits they get, the more oppressed they feel and vice versa.
I dig your hair.
@HannahJenarine >>> Great video. Subbed...👍
And, these various feminism movements have created MGTOW. It is growing and we will see how things work out. It is hard to fight a passive movement.
mgtow is literally just a bunch of men on the internet with a “you can’t fire me, i quit!” mindset. feminists are obviously going to win lmfaoo
Where are my reproductive rights as a man?
Exactly. The modern day “feminist” is nothing more than misandry.
MGTOW Proplem solved
Feminism is that thing where women ask for more while offering less.
See "men dont gaf anymore" for further details
Get yourselves onto the life rafts, were done
I disagree with ur conception with modern day feminism. I think that people who aren’t educated formerly about the feminist movement and theory tend to equate feminism to hating men. As a feminist/womanist I have fought against the use of misandry and hateful speech by people who claim to be feminists … i think honestly this could be a new sector of feminism that’s not aligned with where the movement ideologically in academics claims to be
but . . . why beeing a faminist/womanist, when you can be just a humanist? like most man do . . . searching for REAL equiality but accepting our diferences as genders and agreeing in the fact that we are all . . . well . . . human beeings with all that comes with it.
@@josue1996jc She needs to feel oppressed. It helps her to avoid all responsibility.
Are women oppressed in today's society? Only insofar as everyone is oppressed by nature and circumstance. Modern feminists claim that we still live in a patriarchy. When it is pointed out that while some of the most powerful and high status positions are held by men, so are the most disenfranchised and low status groups, they will say that "the patriarchy oppresses men and women, it just oppresses women more."
I hope I'm not alone when I say that that logic is absurd. According to them, when there's a gender disparity where men are advantaged and women are disadvantaged, it's because men are oppressing women, and when there's a gender disparity where women are advantaged and men are disadvantaged, it's because men are oppressing women. No, that's absurd. The first case is no more evidence for the patriarchy than the second is evidence for a matriarchy.
So long as disparities between men and women exist where men are perceived as having the advantage, that will always be seen as evidence that we live in a patriarchy. The only thing that wouldn't be seen as a patriarchy is where the outcomes for men and women are equal, or women have slightly better outcomes. This cannot be achieved through the natural and free choices of individuals, both men and women, and so it must be artificially constructed through sheer will and political mechanism.
In reality, a society where men have some advantages and women have others is what we would expect from a society where men and women are left to their own devices to choose how they spend their time and energy.
Advocating for women's issues is fine, it's a good thing. The majority of modern feminists that I have seen, which may be a loud minority, seem to see society as a zero sum power game where any attention not paid to women's issues is going to make them worse. That is not true.
And of course, very few people will even acknowledge men's issues. Men can't be discriminated against as far as they're concerned. But they tip their hand and show just how much contempt they hold for men, because while they say that men don't have problems, they will simultaneously say that the problems men have are entirely their fault, men have had it coming, it's entirely deserved, and it's men's job to fix it. Sometimes I will see people showing actual concern about men's issues, but almost only ever because the fact that it is also harming women in some way. It is never out of concern for men, only for the impact it is having on women.
I have been noticing and increasing amount of anti-male sentiment, both in society at large and even in my inner circles. This has disturbed me, and as a 20 year old man, I don't quite know what to do about it. I feel especially isolated, because I belong to what is probably the most demonized groups in modern society, in that I am a straight, white, Christian man, and even most Christians aren't too fond of me. I feel terribly lonely, and yet I am lucky enough to at least have family members who I can trust with my feelings. I shudder to think what the other men of my generation experience. I shudder to consider the resentment that is no doubt brewing in the hearts of many young men, I confess that I feel that resentment myself on occasion, but I'm not inclined to entertain that resentment for very long.
@ernestkhalimov748 I quote "Excuse me but abortion should be legal": Says who? People like you? Should it be legal simply if enough people want it that way? What's the rational for that statement other than the usual nonsensical "my body my choice"? Clearly explain please. Have you truly thought it through? If so consider the following facts and explain why you would agree or disagree (I am speaking as a clinical/research scientist with a sound understanding of bioethics for context so I am well aware of the boundaries between science and morals):
(1) A foetus at any stage of development irrespective of the level of "sentience" is still part of the "human family". As such it deserves all the protection any other human receives. There used to be a level of "sanctity" about human life before "science" started suggesting that we just poke around a woman's body and tear apart a foetus just like a "useless piece of tissue". The issue is that the extreme liberal left has slowly but surely "desensitised" the world to the reality of abortion. It's literally the termination of a human life. Otherwise, people would NOT be aborting their "foetuses" if there was not a human life at the end. It's complete hypocrisy to say that it's just a piece of tissue. We all know that piece of tissue never becomes a carrot or a cabbage. It ALWAYS becomes a human life. Killing the foetus implies killing the human at the end of that journey. People just want to make themselves feel good about their depravity by using all sorts of ridiculous excuses to justify their hedonistic and selfish lifestyle (e.g. it's just tissue, it's not sentient etc.). There are many ways not to get pregnant in this day and age. Forced pregnancy is certainly a tragedy but only constitute around 1% of cases of abortion. Using this as an excuse is also disingenuous and a futile attempt at using the exception to establish a general rule. There is also much to say about condemning the innocent for the crime of others. That's another complex discussion on it's own. I don't mean to trivialise it. It's a real tragedy but we have have to navigate this issues with decency and humanity rather than with emotions as hard as it can be. All advanced societies do not condemn the innocent for the crimes or personal choices of others but we somehow apply that rule to the unborn child because they have no voice and are not "sentient" yet.
(2) Talking about sentience, what's the difference between an unborn foetus and a newborn? Is a newborn fully sentient and aware of its environment during the first few hours post birth? Not at all. It's still instincts at this point. Likewise, foetuses have been seen to push away tools and forceps during abortions. It is acceptable to kill a child that's unaware of it's surrounding and not sentient/have no cognitive function yet? Likewise, is it acceptable to kill a human foetus because it's not sentient or have no cognitive function yet? Are we not supposed to offer MORE protection to those who are the most vulnerable and the weakest?. Remember that a society is judged by the way it treats the weakest of its kind. If we extrapolate this, should the law allow the killing of foetuses immediately after birth since they are not sentient yet? Bear in mind that a huge proportions of those pro-abortion are seeking to implement that. Also note that "partial abortion" has already been proposed as where the baby is killed upon delivery. Do you condone that as well?
(2) Our personal sexual liberties and proclivities should not take precedence over the value of an unborn human life. We should learn to adopt a responsible lifestyle instead and show respect for human life. Accountability does exist. We seem to have forgotten about that.
A society should not be able to "assign conditions" upon which a human foetus "becomes eligible" for protection. The value of a human life should be not be based on "conditions". It becomes a very slippery slope once we start doing that. How do you "quantify" when exactly a human becomes valuable enough to be treated as a human? The abortion movement has been trying to "dehumanise" the foetus more and more up till birth. The more compromise society makes, the more they push. Now there are plans to allow abortion of a newborn not only up till birth (which is in itself utterly depraved) but "AFTER BIRTH". Do you condone that? Remember that assigning "conditions" to establish the value of human life has led to the most depraved acts on the planet. Good examples are slavery and mass murder of people (e.g. WW2) who did not "conform" to the "conditions" established for their survival or fair treatment even though they were humans. Humans at any stage of development either have value or don't. We don't get to decide what "conditions" such as physical abilities, skin colour, race, level of sentience, size etc. they must fulfil to "gain" value.
(3) Are physical disabilities a good reason to abort an unborn child? If so isn't that discrimination against a category of humans? Who gets to decide what "level" of disability is acceptable for a foetus to be protected by law? By extension, would that not imply that disabled adult humans have inherently less value that others? It's almost that we could say "we could have killed you before birth but we showed mercy and let you live". Nowadays ANY reason is acceptable for an abortion up till the "legal" limit depending on where you are looking. What does that tell you about the way we have come to trivialise the value of human life?
(4) Only TIME differentiates an unborn foetus from a grown human in terms of sentience. If given enough time to grown, that lump of flesh BECOMES a human. It is utterly nonsensical and depraved to discriminate humans based on their "time of gestation" more so considering that humans are at their most vulnerable during pregnancy therefore requiring the MOST protection as I mentioned. Saying that we have the "right" to abort any foetus is simply a cowardly act and blatant discrimination based on their lack of "development" and "helplessness". Ask a couple desperately trying to conceive via IVF about the value of a foetus and you'll understand why a human life at any stage of development should be protected at all cost. As I said before, no adult human should have the "power" to decide if a foetus lives or dies based on their arbitrary "choice". It was never their choice to make to begin with. Certainly though, we have the "choice" to adopt a lifestyle and moral values that prevents us from being in a situation where an unborn child is unwanted. Lets use that choice wisely instead of DEMANDING no ACCOUNTABILITY for our actions.
Repeal the 19th.
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