Glock Meets 1911: The Alchemy Arms Spectre

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    Alchemy Arms was a company formed in 1991 making parts and accessories for both the Glock and 1911 platforms. Its founder, William McMoore, got the idea to combine elements of both pistols to make the perfect hybrid. It was essentially a Glock slide and striker-fired system attached to a 1911 style frame, with both grip and manual safeties. It was announced at the 2000 SHOT Show in .45 ACP, with plans to add 9x19mm and .40 S&W options. However, quality control and tolerancing problems plagued the production, magazines were slow to have made (many pistols were shipped with one magazine instead of the advertised two), and the refinement and development of other calibers became a money pit. The company was dissolved in 2006, with only an estimated 100-200 of the pistols having been made.
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  • @johnbacon4997
    @johnbacon4997 Před 3 lety +3229

    Looks like a Gun from a video game that was designed not to infringe firearm copyrights

    • @TuRmIx96
      @TuRmIx96 Před 3 lety +113

      The strange thing is, you can make a perfect copy of an AK-47 in 3D and use it in your game. Just call it BK-47 or anything other non copyrighted name.

    • @klarstrup
      @klarstrup Před 3 lety +41

      @@TuRmIx96 who holds the "AK-47" trademark currently?

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Před 3 lety +103

      @@TuRmIx96 You can call it AK-47, and most games do. No IP issues there.

    • @williamalley5
      @williamalley5 Před 3 lety +37

      @@TuRmIx96 as long as you don’t call it a brand name AK47.

    • @TuRmIx96
      @TuRmIx96 Před 3 lety +46

      @@skepticalbadger You can't, legally. Same with cars. You have to pay the company to use/show their product in your game. Ofc some rando indie game using the name AK47 is not the issue here, I'm talking about big companies. That's why CS 1.6 had CV-47 instead of AK-47. And ofc Mikhail Kalashnikov holds the trademark....

  • @Hubert_Cumberdale_
    @Hubert_Cumberdale_ Před 3 lety +2384

    This would just be called "pistol" in a videogame.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Před 3 lety +806

    Bond: Hey, you’re not Q.
    Ian: I’m his replacement, now what French gun do you want?

    • @londonjolly9174
      @londonjolly9174 Před 3 lety +61

      Good thing Manurhin made Walther PPs

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 Před 3 lety +81

      Bond: well I was wondering if you could get me some-
      Ian: Berthiers?
      Bond: what? No sir, I would like
      Ian: An original RSC?
      Bond: I don't mean to come across as rude but what I need is a small and easily concealable handgun, do you have any?
      Ian: Well I have some original Rubys in .32 ACP
      Bond: I'll just smuggle some pistols out of america then

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 Před 3 lety +8

      @@londonjolly9174 I wish they made Makarovs, personally a better gun.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine Před 3 lety +7

      @@londonjolly9174 Manurhin PP sounds like something else when you say it out loud.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 3 lety +9

      @@Treblaine I think any name mixed with PP when said out loud will always cause a reaction

  • @crashcourseinbruhsurgery
    @crashcourseinbruhsurgery Před 3 lety +1811

    So the Glockteen11 isn't just a meme. Okay then.

  • @Roadkill-jo2uq
    @Roadkill-jo2uq Před 3 lety +1310

    That’s the kinda gun the Spartans would toss off a cliff for not being normal

    • @1165reddragon
      @1165reddragon Před 3 lety +12

      Lmao!

    • @alcodie1558
      @alcodie1558 Před 3 lety +5

      Hahahaa First laugh of the day and it was a good one !! : ))

    • @turretlizardinthesun957
      @turretlizardinthesun957 Před 3 lety +19

      Absolutely best single sentence synopsis of this pistol possible.

    • @notforsaletoday1895
      @notforsaletoday1895 Před 3 lety +20

      I am stealing this joke to be adapted to different situations. Time to go to the orphanage!

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Před 3 lety +2

      A Spartan would toss it off a cliff and pick off a Covenant soldier with it.

  • @DapperDaPonte
    @DapperDaPonte Před 3 lety +218

    “You got your Glock in my 1911! You got your 1911 in my Glock!”

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna Před 3 lety +358

    "Suprisingly, no magazine safety..."
    Alchemy Arms guys: "I knew we forgot something."

    • @T7_H3rbz
      @T7_H3rbz Před 3 lety +14

      That one R&D guy at Alchemy. If only we had added the magazine safety, it woulda sold

  • @SuperBadwilly
    @SuperBadwilly Před 3 lety +477

    And John Moses Browning looked upon his beloved work and said "wtf?"

    • @Ideo7Z
      @Ideo7Z Před 3 lety +40

      Gaston Glock probably used his fury from seeing this abomination to fight off his assassins at that parking lot in Austria by imagining they were the designers.

    • @wiredloaf2050
      @wiredloaf2050 Před 3 lety +23

      Look how they massacred my boy

    • @christianfritz6333
      @christianfritz6333 Před 3 lety +5

      Was ist das?

    • @davidcollis4758
      @davidcollis4758 Před 3 lety +8

      The Journey Ahead I'm sure he would say "WTH" What the hell. He was a Mormon after all.

    • @SuperBadwilly
      @SuperBadwilly Před 3 lety +1

      @@davidcollis4758 I'm not apart of the pc crowd.

  • @seanfernandolopez9139
    @seanfernandolopez9139 Před 3 lety +504

    Spectre, where 1911 fans and glock fans will put their differences aside to show hate on this

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 Před 3 lety +15

      Its like an Early Hudson 9.

    • @chaegibson720
      @chaegibson720 Před 3 lety +17

      What why it’s beautiful

    • @seanfernandolopez9139
      @seanfernandolopez9139 Před 3 lety +18

      @@chaegibson720 because usually firearms fanatics are fan of the the original feature of the gun, and usually, they hate an opposite kind of it. i know my explanation is a little confusing, so let me give you an example.
      AK fans and AR15 fans hate each other.
      AR15 fans brag about its "lego" capability, meaning, you can easily swap parts and easily add accessories.
      While AK fans brag AK with its simple, reliable design that doesnt need any attachment.
      This is why AK fans are hating on AK that is heavily accessorized, or as we put it"gucci-fied" , because their argument is "dont make an AK an M4"
      and on the other side of the line, AR15 fans are hating on heavily accessorized AK because their argument is "why would you modify AK like that if you like the design? you rather have an AR15"
      this is not everyone, just the fanatic ones.

    • @seanfernandolopez9139
      @seanfernandolopez9139 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Seth9809 hmmm... maybe a little... hudson 9, while having a blocky slide still looks a lot like 1911.

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před 3 lety +3

      it's like what happens when a TV show forces to characters together into a romantic relationship fans did not want and their offspring is the most unlikable asswhole who ruins it for everyone.

  • @xGSFxGoat
    @xGSFxGoat Před 3 lety +378

    This looks like an paintball pistol from a brand that doesn't have the rights to any existing design

    • @henryrodgers7386
      @henryrodgers7386 Před 3 lety +11

      I just pulled out a Core ZX. Can confirm. It's like they're twins.

    • @JustIn-op6oy
      @JustIn-op6oy Před 3 lety +6

      As someone who did airsmith work on a number of mag fed paintball pistols, I can confirm.
      Also - fuck magfed paintball markers.

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S Před 3 lety +644

    The Lock Picking Lawyer will be along shortly to do a review.

    • @norwegianwiking
      @norwegianwiking Před 3 lety +79

      Opened with a ball point pen body in under 5 seconds

    • @peterkroger7112
      @peterkroger7112 Před 3 lety +16

      I was thinking exactly that.

    • @ntrf-xyz
      @ntrf-xyz Před 3 lety +26

      There is a roll pin holding the lock with both ends visible. Perfect for a hinge pin removal tool.

    • @djackmanson
      @djackmanson Před 3 lety +69

      “Here’s the paper clip that Bosnian Bill and I bent”

    • @fuzzlemacfuzz
      @fuzzlemacfuzz Před 3 lety +16

      The crossover we've all been waiting for

  • @iododendron3416
    @iododendron3416 Před 3 lety +360

    Next: a Desert Eagle slide on a Walther PPK. Without any scaling.

    • @neilshark6361
      @neilshark6361 Před 3 lety +10

      Should work fine. .
      50AE?? Lol

    • @acoolerhandle
      @acoolerhandle Před 3 lety +18

      Part of me wants to call this a better looking hi-point for some reason

    • @Hanzer-ns5bh
      @Hanzer-ns5bh Před 3 lety +25

      The pistol version of Big Head Mode

    • @blarghinatelazer9394
      @blarghinatelazer9394 Před 2 lety +3

      @@acoolerhandle Cursed

    • @stormiestcampfire
      @stormiestcampfire Před rokem +1

      There's a Fallout 4 mod that has a DEagle slide on IIRC a makarov. It's bundled in the bulldog revolver mod.

  • @liquorgunsandrhetoric
    @liquorgunsandrhetoric Před 3 lety +133

    Hey, that looks alright, seems like a fun quirky-
    "Tubular lock on the mainspring housing"
    OH MY GOODNESS

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Před 3 lety +16

      So much fail here... All that machining and engineering to create a mad chimera. Now I don't have to like the product to see that a lot of effort and skill went into making that gun. But my mind boggles when I see they then put what looks like a bargain basement extremely cheap and nasty tubular lock in the but of the pistol grip. What were they thinking? I mean they have to have put some thought into the aesthetics of the gun. They put a useless beaver tail on it just to make it look more like a 1911, and then they thought it was a great idea to install a chromed tubular lock that looks like it was ripped from an office desk drawer on it?
      For the moment let's just ignore that the idea of putting a lock on a gun is something very few people think is a good idea in the first place. How'd that go? OK, so it's hard to imagine, but just bear with it for a few seconds. Now imagine you are sitting in a meeting discussing the safety features of the gun and are talking about the lock. Now remember that you are trying to design a premium gun that will sell at a premium price to a select few who has the money and are interested in getting a gun with the grip and trigger action of a 1911 and the slide and hopefully reliability of a Glock. Now wouldn't it have made sense to use a lock that doesn't scream "office supplies"?

    • @wadekirby8575
      @wadekirby8575 Před 3 lety +9

      I was also confused about how I felt about this pistol until he got to the tubular lock, that cemented it into the yuck category.

    • @CZProtton
      @CZProtton Před 2 lety +1

      I mean, it might be the only safety that can kind of make sure that if a kid just randomly picks it up, it cannot shoot the gun. If you have that locked... but then... you can just lock it... somewhere else... like a safe... and still need a key... Yeaaah... i rest my case, it looks horrible and is practicaly useless.

  • @SaxonArmamentsCo
    @SaxonArmamentsCo Před 3 lety +201

    Sorcery Arms: Wraith (a SCAR and derringer hybrid no one needs but everyone deserves)

    • @CobraKaiNoMercy
      @CobraKaiNoMercy Před 3 lety +27

      I'll help you design your next gun. The Sorcery Arms: Wizard. It's design is a secret, but it will make your money disappear.

    • @mistakenotou7681
      @mistakenotou7681 Před 3 lety +8

      Something like this abomination
      czcams.com/video/CI7XLFN-hD4/video.html

    • @CobraKaiNoMercy
      @CobraKaiNoMercy Před 3 lety +5

      @@mistakenotou7681 They should call that gun Frankenstein because it is the creation of a mad man.

    • @geodkyt
      @geodkyt Před 3 lety +9

      @@LightningNC I would totally not be surprised if Serbu hadn't already done it, if only for the LOLZ.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 3 lety +4

      @@geodkyt Actually he sort of did, the BFG-50 being a single shot anmat

  • @Bimon1234567
    @Bimon1234567 Před 3 lety +126

    "Alchemy Arms Spectre" sounds like a gun from a fictional universe that has both magic and modern firearms.

  • @baronofhell2277
    @baronofhell2277 Před 3 lety +185

    Whatever Ian said in the start of the video made my furniture start floating

    • @skeltonslay8er781
      @skeltonslay8er781 Před 3 lety +30

      Really? I’ve got a weird half goat man in the corner

    • @rageagainstthehygiene2357
      @rageagainstthehygiene2357 Před 3 lety +23

      My dog started standing on 2 legs and reciting backwards bible passages

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT Před 3 lety +1

      I'm still trying to figure out what he said

    • @acoolerhandle
      @acoolerhandle Před 3 lety +5

      @@bluecaptainIT I think it’s “Specta. Well we can’t all be geniuses can we?” In the worst accent I’ve ever heard.

    • @KosherPorky
      @KosherPorky Před 3 lety +2

      Really? I just had a few thousand sheep teleport in my vicinity. They're flying around, too. Interesting stuff.

  • @r.l.royalljr.3905
    @r.l.royalljr.3905 Před 3 lety +130

    Ah, the old adage: "How do you turn a billionaire into a millionaire? Ask him to develop a new firearm."

    • @RustyDroid
      @RustyDroid Před 3 lety +10

      Or get him into motorsports

    • @SasqueEnchiladaII
      @SasqueEnchiladaII Před 3 lety +2

      Or pro wrestling in the 21st century

    • @Topo842
      @Topo842 Před 3 lety +1

      Or farming

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 Před 3 lety +1

      Or the airline business...

    • @Topo842
      @Topo842 Před 3 lety +2

      @@trooperdgb9722 Don't say that man I'm only just getting my pilot's licence :'v
      (it's true tho)

  • @John1911
    @John1911 Před 3 lety +149

    We bought one of these over the counter back in the day. As I recall, it was ok with reliability, but we never really shook it down crazy hard to find out.
    What killed it for us was it was very uncomfortable at the back of the frame, working the safety. This is because it was a huge gun for only 10+1.
    I also recall the slide serrations sucked rocks. Not really useable. And we worried about mags, the gun lock failing, and overall support. So it was dumped.
    Didn’t know how rare it was. Hell! That example might have been ours!!!
    Regards,
    Marky

  • @thing1145
    @thing1145 Před 3 lety +429

    "Alchemy Arms", "Spectre"
    Sounds good, doesn't look like it.

    • @Lrr_Of_Omikron
      @Lrr_Of_Omikron Před 3 lety +4

      I was waiting for someone to comment on how plain that thing looked.

    • @saurelius5217
      @saurelius5217 Před 3 lety +37

      Still looks better than a stock Glock.

    • @Stormcloakvictory
      @Stormcloakvictory Před 3 lety +2

      It's vice versa imo

    • @rxdoom1194
      @rxdoom1194 Před 3 lety +11

      @@saurelius5217 debatable

    • @hugopepe1722
      @hugopepe1722 Před 3 lety +4

      Don't insult the gun of Casper the friendly Ghost

  • @olivermcneice8440
    @olivermcneice8440 Před 3 lety +273

    You're a very hard working man, and we all appreciate the amount of time and effort you put into this channel (and others)

    • @kgkbuugj
      @kgkbuugj Před 3 lety +2

      He has other channels?

    • @ballagh
      @ballagh Před 3 lety +2

      @@kgkbuugj InRange TV would be the main one, czcams.com/users/InrangeTvShow
      There may be others, but there is a the occasional crossover as well, for example I seem to remember something with The_Chieftain.

  • @saberfire89
    @saberfire89 Před 3 lety +200

    Someone get the LockPickingLawyer on the line, he can finally combine his love of locks and guns in one convenient package.

  • @DFX2KX
    @DFX2KX Před 3 lety +104

    This thing looks like a generic starter pistol in a video game

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 Před 3 lety +10

      A gun that was designed to NOT infringe on any copyright whatsoever

    • @Lrr_Of_Omikron
      @Lrr_Of_Omikron Před 3 lety +16

      With all those lambda symbols you'd think its from Half Life.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 3 lety +6

      Looks like a gun custom made special police unit and used in a viral outbreak caused by a multinational pharmaceutical corporation when they try to create a living weapon.

    • @Lrr_Of_Omikron
      @Lrr_Of_Omikron Před 3 lety

      @@Joshua_N-A ooh I know that one, your talking about Super Mario Bros...

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 3 lety

      @@Joshua_N-A Sounds like Knack 2

  • @lordhellfire153
    @lordhellfire153 Před 3 lety +56

    Tubular lock built into the firearm itself?
    Paging LockPickingLawyer and BosnianBill

  • @pops55650
    @pops55650 Před 3 lety +47

    HiPoint: “The Spectre is a good start but the slide isn’t big enough”

    • @pops55650
      @pops55650 Před 3 lety +2

      *Referring to only the looks, not the action

    • @Boredoutofmywits
      @Boredoutofmywits Před 3 lety +1

      @@edgarburlyman738 Your physics are way off.

    • @maeus8220
      @maeus8220 Před 3 lety +1

      Lighter material has less mass for its volume, I believe. Since mass is practically equivalent to inertia, and slide inertia is what keeps the action closed on blowback action, the weight is critical. Lighter material simply means it's larger for it's weight.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Před 3 lety

      @@edgarburlyman738 Hi-Point slides are heavy _because_ they're blowback. The mass is what resists the pressure long enough for the pressure to drop to safe levels. The (rare) centerfire blowbacks you see are all _delayed_ blowbacks, using rollers or something to slow the lightweight slide.
      Hi-Points are actually kind of genius. The creator, in Detroit, said "Hey, there's all this die-casting equipment around here for cars, I bet I could design a gun that'd be really cheap to make with it." And he did. Fixed barrel, molded plastic lower, die cast slide, a couple springs, a trigger, and a mag. Dead simple, very cheap, very reliable, very tough, surprisingly accurate...and annoyingly top-heavy.

  • @KMcKaig72
    @KMcKaig72 Před 3 lety +14

    Having worked as a machinist primarily in aerospace for 25-plus years, the comparison between the engineering disciplines you spoke about is absolutely true. Jet engines/airframes have to function in a much more controlled environment/use-case than firearms do.

  • @Thickok_45
    @Thickok_45 Před 3 lety +29

    “Are you a Glock or a 1911 guy?”
    Me: “yes”

    • @ovizcarra8667
      @ovizcarra8667 Před 3 lety +1

      I think you accidentally called yourself a glock and m1911 instead of calling This gun that lol

  • @infilader1642
    @infilader1642 Před 3 lety +63

    " Shppeectuuur "

  • @EcchiRevenge
    @EcchiRevenge Před 3 lety +33

    Logo almost looked like Lambda for HalfLife.
    There are three "1"s in "1911."

  • @shawnbane585
    @shawnbane585 Před 3 lety +18

    The old Police dept that we had here got one for T&E. A couple of guys had NDs with their Glocks. So the Township supervisors put in a manual safety rule. They went with the S&W MP. Less than a year later the Chief, Lt, and Sgt were all brought up on Federal drug charges and the dept folded. I wonder what happened to it

    • @randoliof
      @randoliof Před 3 lety +3

      Where was this at?

    • @shawnbane585
      @shawnbane585 Před 3 lety

      @@randoliof south west PA south of Pittsburgh

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm Před 3 lety +107

    This is the equivalent of engineering a dog/cat hybrid and expecting the fans to be interested

    • @JCGver
      @JCGver Před 3 lety +36

      It's like mixing Toyota with Alfa Romeo, you're hoping for a car that looks like an Alfa and is reliable like a Toyota. But sadly often you end up with a Toyota looking car and randomly catches fire.

    • @zupperm
      @zupperm Před 3 lety +9

      @@JCGver They tried that with Nissan. It was the Alfa Romeo Arna and it had Japanese styling with Italian mechanics.

    • @ronaldlollis8895
      @ronaldlollis8895 Před 3 lety +7

      It made for a crazy 😝 cat 🐈 dog 🐩 cartoon, so...great minds and all.....😂🤣😂🤣

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 3 lety +15

      @@ronaldlollis8895 One fine day with a woof and a purr, a baby was born and cause a little stir. No blue buzzard, no three eyed frog. It's a canine-feline, little catdog...

    • @handledhandlehandlinghandler
      @handledhandlehandlinghandler Před 3 lety +7

      Ed...ward?

  • @devinmounce1838
    @devinmounce1838 Před 3 lety +43

    I’m not going to lie, it doesn’t look that bad.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Před 3 lety +1

      I honestly wouldn't mind seeing how it shoots.

    • @nigelft
      @nigelft Před 3 lety

      @@cgi2002
      Likewise ...
      In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing it, with a Lone Wolf Slide, plus one of their threaded barrels, and dust cap; a rectangular, Osprey, suppressor; and Trijicon Tough & Bright night sights, plus one of theirs RMR sights, as well.
      In fact, I wonder if extending the whole thing to 8", would add anything extra to that gun, if the company really wanted to go out on limb with, as a commentator named it, the 'Glockteen - Eleven" ...

  • @matthewiisaac7907
    @matthewiisaac7907 Před 3 lety +89

    MUST BE A PRODUCT OF PEACE BUT UNFORTUNATELY PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION BETWEEN TWO FANBASE

    • @bankotsu2a
      @bankotsu2a Před 3 lety +5

      If you want peace prepare for war, or so I have been told.

    • @WeencieRants
      @WeencieRants Před 3 lety +4

      Bruh why are you yelling

    • @matthewiisaac7907
      @matthewiisaac7907 Před 3 lety

      @@WeencieRants sori caps lock bruh

    • @matthewiisaac7907
      @matthewiisaac7907 Před 3 lety

      @Waltzin' Matilda glock vs 1911 thing

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 3 lety +1

      @Waltzin' Matilda That's right, it won TWO WORLD WARS with it's 45 SOTPPING POWAH

  • @DrMogilus
    @DrMogilus Před 3 lety +40

    Looks like something straight out of MGSV

    • @notforsaletoday1895
      @notforsaletoday1895 Před 3 lety +3

      Ah yeah i see what you mean. All those guns were quite strange.

    • @DrMogilus
      @DrMogilus Před 3 lety +8

      While there probably was a reason behind fictional guns, they felt especially strange after seeing and using actual weapons in every other game, hearing legit gun enthusiast talk between characters about real firearms (such as the amazing conversations between Snake and Sigint), reading about them in their menu descriptions, etc. But hey, I guess made-up guns fit the whole big ass ruse vibe of MGSV lol

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 3 lety

      Strange it reminds me of Kendo customs from Resident Evil series.

  • @TBreezy17
    @TBreezy17 Před 3 lety +8

    Lock Picking Lawyer: watch me get into this with a starburst wrapper

  • @stevenrich1819
    @stevenrich1819 Před 3 lety +3

    I met Bill in the early 2000’s. I’ve had a couple of his pistols, one made to my specs (combat sights, lighter trigger spring and finish). Interchangeable 45 ACP and 40 SW, both work well. Very few issues, ramp polishing mainly. It’s pretty accurate too. Bill’s intent was to get a military contract which didn’t work out. My only regret was not buying the 10mm upper and magazines.

  • @miketanner1920
    @miketanner1920 Před 3 lety +28

    This is a perfect example of why you can't please everyone
    When form supersedes function
    To many cooks in the kitchen
    Just saying

    • @bigghoss762
      @bigghoss762 Před 3 lety

      Too many cooks will spoil the broth.

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus Před 5 měsíci

      I wonder if the design can be simplified and made appealing...

  • @maicrowsoft8867
    @maicrowsoft8867 Před 3 lety +5

    This gun needs to appear in films and video games. it could be an ideal signature weapon for some characters.

  • @crispay8304
    @crispay8304 Před 3 lety +17

    It’s cursed as all hell but I still want one

  • @faustovieira
    @faustovieira Před 3 lety +4

    We need a cross-over video with the @LockPickingLawyer. Those tubular locks will not stop a curious teenager.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Před 3 lety +1

      The idea was to stop curious *children.* Like, toddlers, pre-schoolers, and kindergarteners. The funny thing is that you can do that pretty well by just not loading the gun, as any kid who has the intelligence and problem-solving abilities to load a firearm is smart enough to be taught gun safety. The only thing those locks would have accomplished if anyone ever actually used them would be to make some poor bastard's last words "Shit, where's the key?"

  • @Swingbttr
    @Swingbttr Před 3 lety +4

    This is the handgun every kid draws in their note book during elementary school.

  • @michailpanchev9952
    @michailpanchev9952 Před 3 lety +58

    A very promising concept. It's a real pitty it wasn't developed further.

    • @texasPITBULL54
      @texasPITBULL54 Před 3 lety +1

      @@krockpotbroccoli65 yes it is would like it to look more 1911 like though

    • @vksjd
      @vksjd Před 3 lety +7

      I like the idea of a metal-frame, striker-fired pistol, and it seems like there is renewed interest in the concept recently, with the Hudson H9, the Walther Q5 SF and Q4 SF, and the SIG-Sauer P320 AXG Scorpion. Hudson didn’t make it, but that seems like it was due to quality control issues more than lack of interest.

    • @KingdomOfDimensions
      @KingdomOfDimensions Před 3 lety +3

      @@krockpotbroccoli65 Bro you need to calm down, its just a gun. There's nothing inherently more monstrous, horrible, or goofy about this gun than any other, except that lock.

    • @kaylt.7864
      @kaylt.7864 Před 3 lety +5

      Tbh it is, a lot of ppl dont like glocks still bc of the polymer frame. Perhaps a market for them, ppl who like unique arms, & maybe more

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@kaylt.7864why don't people like polymer?

  • @Strelnikov403
    @Strelnikov403 Před 3 lety +4

    I imagine the titanium-slide version would've had weighted steel inserts on the inside of the slide (most likely as part of the breech assembly) to add mass for cycling. I'm almost positive that it was offered for durability and corrosion-resistance reasons, rather than for the lighter weight. Plus it's just the single most tactical gun ever.
    "Guys, come check out my titanium-and-polymer Glockteen11!"

  • @pauldonlin3439
    @pauldonlin3439 Před 3 lety +1

    As a former aerospace engineer, I can say that Ian's comment regarding "an engineer assumes that the components interacting with your thing are going to be as well made as your thing" is totally spot on but not for the reason but not for the reason he insinuates.
    Yes, manufacturing practice within the aerospace industry requires extremely high quality for *some* parts. It seemed to me at the time that laziness and an overreliance on high quality manufacturing (i.e. holding unnecessarily tight tolerances) has perpetuated this myth.

  • @kassenz
    @kassenz Před 3 lety +1

    I remember when these were introduced. I was right out of high school working at a gunshop not far from where these were being manufactured. A few were consigned and a few local Seattle area shops had ONE in stock, as a reference, just to get publicity, but NONE ever sold. People looked at them like a train wreck. Remember this was 1995 when 1911 and HK USP ruled.
    These were well made, featured a nice linear 1911 style 5-7 pound trigger, but a failure. It's great they made it to production, but it never caught on with the public or law enforcement community.
    Thank you for the video. Brings back memories
    I was blessed growing up in such a innovative area. Seattle is home to Detonics, Rainier Arms, AeroPrecisionusa.com, Zev, Mega, Oly Arms, AeroTec, Fortis, and many more. It was great having the opportunity to work for these companies and meet some of the people behind these brands

  • @MrCyphermonkey
    @MrCyphermonkey Před 3 lety +10

    Didn’t Ian have a background in aero engineering until he realised he didn’t like it?

  • @stoner_pinky
    @stoner_pinky Před 3 lety +8

    Crazy that Hudson would try and do this again and yield the same outcome. The whole history repeats itself thing strikes once more.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 3 lety +1

      Nah, the Hudson was much better executed.
      The only part of the Hudson that feels weird is the trigger because it's hinged at the bottom, and that's just "weird" not bad. Otherwise, grip feels good, trigger *pull* is good, muzzle doesn't flip much, etc.
      Where Hudson screwed up was announcing the aluminum frame before their steel frames were selling enough to pay the bills. I was going to buy a Hudson but decided to wait until the aluminum frame was out because I don't want a third all steel pistol.

    • @billylin5404
      @billylin5404 Před 3 lety +2

      Found the Hudson H9 comment that I came looking for!

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Před 3 lety +1

      The Hudson had the low bore axis going for it, too. It was a good idea, poorly executed. This was a bad idea, poorly executed.

  • @douglashansen7869
    @douglashansen7869 Před 3 lety +2

    As an Aerospace Engineer who thoroughly enjoys Firearms, I really liked this spot on examination of the underlying engineering.

  • @HaloMashups
    @HaloMashups Před 3 lety

    Dang, this info is really interesting! Love this channel

  • @mollymcallister1671
    @mollymcallister1671 Před 3 lety +48

    "To combine the best features of the 1911 and the Glock.."
    Crap trigger-pull.
    Frame isn't polymer.
    ....what was the point again?

    • @geodkyt
      @geodkyt Před 3 lety +22

      Yeah, saved one of the *worst* features of the 1911 (the grip safety, although a fixed beavertail wouldn't be a *bad* idea, especially a slightly more moderate one), and took one of the finest triggers and mated it to a striker system that has an even worse trigger pull than a Glock.
      It's like you combined the Swedish Bikini Team and Victoria's Secret and ended up with Quasimodo in a thong...

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah, this should have been a good trigger on a polymer frame.

    • @TheNinjaDC
      @TheNinjaDC Před 3 lety +5

      The frame not being polymer isn't really an issue, as it does shoot better with the added mass. Many companies are going back to steel framed options for a reason.
      The issue is it is a steel frame, pretending to be a polymer, and just looking ugly and uncomfortable. Seriously, why didn't he just put a 1911/2011 frame on the damn thing with customizable grips.

    • @lanceluthor6660
      @lanceluthor6660 Před 3 lety +8

      You guys nailed it. When I heard Glock/1911 ,I thought a Glock with a really first rate trigger. If they really did it right it would have a single stack nice thin ergonomic grip like a 1911 but no grip safety. Use as many off the shelf Glock parts. No extra dodads. They managed to get the worst parts of both guns.

    • @POTUSJimmyCarter
      @POTUSJimmyCarter Před 3 lety +1

      "Wait, you said BEST features? I misheard you. I thought we were making this as a prank."

  • @lifepolicy
    @lifepolicy Před 3 lety +15

    That looks more like all the bad features of a 1911 combined with the bad features of a glock.

    • @brightpri6692
      @brightpri6692 Před 2 lety +2

      Its a glock with 1911 ergos

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@brightpri6692what if it was a 1911 with Glock ergos?

  • @lsd-25ayahuascadmt7
    @lsd-25ayahuascadmt7 Před 3 lety +1

    Always seen pictures of it, never knew what it was! nice being this early on a video

  • @douro20
    @douro20 Před 3 lety

    Lot 457 in the December 2019 Premier Firearms Auction is one which should definitely be looked at. One of the first forty contract 1911s produced at Colt. There is also a couple of pre-production Union Switch & Signal 1911s.

  • @flexplayz6551
    @flexplayz6551 Před 3 lety +4

    Actually steel is stronger than titanium. The thing with titanium is that its very light for its strength and very resistant to erosion. Also its heat resistant and doesnt conduct electicity.
    Edit: the electricity thing is wrong also its only the modulus of elasticity that´s higher with steel.

    • @ben501st
      @ben501st Před 3 lety +1

      As someone who spent three years studying metallurgy. No.

    • @flexplayz6551
      @flexplayz6551 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ben501st I study mechatronics and this what i remembered from my metallurgy course, i might be wrong. Pls correct me^^

  • @bigghoss762
    @bigghoss762 Před 3 lety +11

    Since the gun is a .45 wouldn't it need a Glock 21 slide?

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld Před 3 lety +2

      I expect so. I've never had the chance to examine the rear end of G21 and G23 slides or frames side-by-side, but I suspect that the part in question needs to be located slightly differently in .45ACP than in .40S&W.

    • @bigghoss762
      @bigghoss762 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MikeDCWeld I can check it out with my gen 4's when I get home although the Spectre would be based around a gen 2 or 3.

    • @bigghoss762
      @bigghoss762 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MikeDCWeld Just for the heck of it I tired a 19 slide on a 21 frame and it stops about the same place as in the video. I'm pretty sure a gen 1, 2, or 3 Glock upper would fit and function on this frame. Though the Spectre uses different mags so maybe the feed ramp on the barrel could be different or the breech face where it pushes a round out of the magazine. But a Glock 19/23 upper would never work on it.

  • @stephenpalano2188
    @stephenpalano2188 Před 3 lety +1

    Had one of these, sent it back to get it updated and never saw it again...It was a good gun, very tight, and shot well....miss it.

  • @tomliemohn624
    @tomliemohn624 Před 3 lety +2

    Interesting. I think my path may have crossed with them on one or two occasions back around 2002-2003. My college class took some courses in a building they were doing R&D work out of in south Auburn. It's also interesting that you posted this as I am contemplating making a novel pistol design myself right now. It's an ambitious project and I can't afford to fail. So, stuff to think about.

  • @randymagnum143
    @randymagnum143 Před 3 lety +15

    Ian, if you ever get a chance, a winchester industrial shotgun would be an interesting topic!

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 Před 3 lety +1

      I remember hearing about those. That would be interesting. Especially doing a range shoot!

  • @takingbacktoxic7898
    @takingbacktoxic7898 Před 3 lety +17

    The irony is if that were a double stack 9mm released today, it probably would have sold a lot better.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Před rokem

      and they won't be able to sell it in their own state. WA state has a ban on mags over 10 rounds..

  • @bdmartinjr.1715
    @bdmartinjr.1715 Před 3 lety

    Yes, I learned something today. Thank you once again for sharing your encyclopedic and insightful knowledge!

  • @walkercobb2808
    @walkercobb2808 Před 3 lety +1

    7:51 As far as a titanium slide is concerned, you could maybe achieve similar delay to a steel slide by redesigning the short-recoil system so that the barrel and slide travel backwards together for a longer distance, but that seems like it would take a lot of redesign for other components, especially the frame, and you might see accuracy and reliability suffer as a result. It would also lead to some issues (assuming that the barrel is steel) with the area of the slide where it contacts the barrel at the front of the ejection port would wear out a lot more quickly. surface hardness is generally not titanium's strong suit. You would have to either carbidize that region or insert a steel bearing surface, which both add cost. Also, not to be pedantic, but titanium alloys tend to be weaker than high-strength steels in an absolute sense, using the typical convention of load/area to define stress, but they do usually have higher strength to mass ratios. I can't think of much benefit to a titanium slide other than reduced overall weight, but that would be much better achieved by using a polymer frame. I'd expect higher felt recoil from the lower mass, and probably a much higher unit cost since titanium alloys are such a pain to machine.

  • @gonnegottkehaskamp1667
    @gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Před 3 lety +14

    The title puts words in a sentence that I never want to see in a sentence again.😤

    • @gonnegottkehaskamp1667
      @gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Před 3 lety

      @Hexxer Gaming I dunno if you're sarcastic or not, it's just the HERESY of combining the ol' reliable 1911 with the plastic gun.
      And no, I am not actually mad. HERESY!!! was just my first thought when reading the title.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 3 lety +1

      What *should* happen when a Glock and a 1911 love each other very much is a polymer frame and double stack magazine under a 1911 slide. That'd actually be an improvement.
      I suppose that a Glock style barrel may also be an improvement in terms of machining (less things to cut).
      But this? 🤮

  • @theultimatederp3288
    @theultimatederp3288 Před 3 lety +17

    Specter: Has Lambda symbols printed on it.
    Gordon Freeman: *Happy grin*

  • @Enthymene
    @Enthymene Před 3 lety +2

    Later on that same table:
    "This is the Lockpicking Lawyer, and I've got something a little different for you this time. At first glance, this looks more like a Glock than a lock, but in fact it's equal parts both..."

  • @gregoryheim9781
    @gregoryheim9781 Před 3 lety

    I like your take on the aerospace/firearm engineering an ammunition variation.

  • @rotwang2000
    @rotwang2000 Před 3 lety +7

    One more in a long line of "Wouldn't it be cool ?" ideas that never floated, but ends up having a "second chance" on the quirky gun collector market.

  • @2MeterLP
    @2MeterLP Před 3 lety +5

    Gotta say, thats the coolest gun name ive ever heard.

  • @cameronfelkel377
    @cameronfelkel377 Před 2 lety

    Love the small safe lock on the bottom of the mag well!

  • @RobSchauland
    @RobSchauland Před rokem

    That aerospace machining precision really paid dividends in the fit and blend of that grip safety.

  • @michaelray4033
    @michaelray4033 Před 3 lety +10

    Fudds everywhere: confused screaming.

  •  Před 3 lety +3

    At least the lock is not a crappy wafer lock, but tubular pin tumbler locks (with some exceptions) are nowadays easily opened with impressioning tools (see e.g. @LockPickingLawyer videos).

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 Před 3 lety

    I could see the use of a titanium slide that's weighted to the proper mass with lead or tungsten inserts in the nose, probably in the 'corners' up above the barrel.

  • @525halo
    @525halo Před 3 lety +1

    I honestly love this design! Which is why I got the hudson H9 when it came out. Sadly Hudson went under and I am hopeful a company comes along and gives the H9 a reboot!!!

  • @Lrr_Of_Omikron
    @Lrr_Of_Omikron Před 3 lety +3

    The Spectre, a gun for the Glock and 1911 fan that fills non of the holes.

  • @Sensorium19
    @Sensorium19 Před 3 lety +3

    The safety lock is the only part of this I find really sacrilegious.

  • @stevailo
    @stevailo Před 3 lety

    I love this kind of more recent 90s and 00s forgotten weapons

  • @adamwest8711
    @adamwest8711 Před 3 lety

    As much as I love the videos, the barely suppressed smile post Connery voice was my favourite part this time.

  • @Vashed555
    @Vashed555 Před 3 lety +9

    I feel like the HK45 is a much better execution of this same idea.

  • @SeannoG1
    @SeannoG1 Před 3 lety +5

    Its a good thing the industry learned its lesson from this and one would ever try to make an unholy amalgamation of 1911 and Glock .........

  • @ThePatriotParadox
    @ThePatriotParadox Před rokem

    Love how you touched on the ammunition compatibility with firearms manufacturing, not what a lot of people think about. But if you're cool, well engineered and designed firearm doesn't cycle nearly 100% of ammunition nearly 100% of the time the good luck at trying to sale it for dirt cheap or even at all.

  • @electric_boogaloo496
    @electric_boogaloo496 Před 8 měsíci

    The real unsung hero in this is the gun the magazine for this was originally intended for. The Wtiness line of guns (now rebranded to Defiant) made by Tanfoglio.
    Double stack magazines for 45, 38 super, 10mm in a very ergonomic CZ "evolution" pistol. Caliber convertible to the 3 I mentioned and 9mm and 40 S&W, in the same frame.

  • @saurelius5217
    @saurelius5217 Před 3 lety +20

    This looks like a rejected gun model from Half-Life.

  • @jongreenshields2815
    @jongreenshields2815 Před 3 lety +4

    Woah I didn't know somebody was making real cursed guns for Brandon herrara 😂

  • @chanman819
    @chanman819 Před 3 lety

    There is a subset of the aerospace industry that would be familiar with rugged, rough-tolerance engineering - the designers of STOL and bush planes would have similar considerations. It is a niche segment these days, but the An-2, and the DeHavilland Canada STOL planes (Beaver, Otter, Caribou, Buffalo, etc.) did have to be sturdy and reliable enough to operate in the remote north with 1950's engineering while allowing for some degree of field-expedient repair in the taiga or tundra.

  • @Ninth_Penumbra
    @Ninth_Penumbra Před 3 lety +1

    @IanMcCallum I'd be honestly fascinated to see what features you personally would put into your own pistol design - and if there are any designs which come close to perfection (in your opinion).
    It's almost 2021. Based on your skillset & remarkable knowledge of weapon design history, I reckon that you could come up with a truly advanced 21st century weapon.
    (Though I'm still waiting to see if caseless ammunition could ever become a thing.)

  • @Superiority.mindset
    @Superiority.mindset Před 3 lety +13

    These are XS big dot sights, not Heinie sights.

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 Před 3 lety +1

      They might even be the first iteration of XS, Ashley Express Sights.

  • @darksim1930
    @darksim1930 Před 3 lety +2

    You're telling me that they wanted to combine the best qualities of the Glock and the 1911 so they... kept the grip safety of the 1911 and the takedown method of the Glock? That is the one thing I dislike about the former combined with one of the things I dislike most about the latter.

  • @BIHaole
    @BIHaole Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve got one in 45ACP and 40cal conversion, combat sights, speed ramp and custom trigger.

  • @ilovelamp61
    @ilovelamp61 Před 3 lety +1

    That was a pretty good Connery impression!

  • @ST-zm3lm
    @ST-zm3lm Před 3 lety +11

    It seems interesting conceptually but it appears he took the Glock about 30 years back from its development cycle 🤔

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX Před 3 lety +48

    This thing is giving me Half Life vibes.

    • @JCdental
      @JCdental Před 3 lety +7

      i swear that's what the security at black mesa used

    • @scenepointjudge
      @scenepointjudge Před 3 lety +11

      "Catch me later - I'll buy you a beer."

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, me too.... Sort of: I rather have a facecrab than a pic of this unholy contraption in front of my face!

    • @Marklb1
      @Marklb1 Před 3 lety +5

      definantly the lambda logos

    • @Valanway
      @Valanway Před 3 lety

      It's the Lambda letter and the fact that the G17 was the standard-res model for the pistol

  • @Highnz57
    @Highnz57 Před 3 lety +1

    That's pretty badass. Some cool innovations.

  • @Stoic_grimace
    @Stoic_grimace Před 3 lety +1

    reminds me of the Korth. I think the integrated lock is a neat idea

  • @cannedbread3125
    @cannedbread3125 Před 3 lety +5

    Funnily enough it even looks like the kind of gun that generic goons working for hank Scorpio would use

  • @intrer8601
    @intrer8601 Před 3 lety +5

    That thing looks extremely cursed

  • @rodgomez4424
    @rodgomez4424 Před 3 lety

    Very informative. Cheers

  • @UnDeaDCyBorg
    @UnDeaDCyBorg Před 3 lety

    The loading bar bugged out, and when I took an off look at it, it showed the video was nearly done before he got to the weird lock at the bottom.
    Glad it wasn't.

  • @noveske.2236
    @noveske.2236 Před 3 lety +10

    Made this Matv2099 joke but apparently someone else did too, mine was like 20minutes after the video was uploaded, but has less likes so i changed this comment

  • @melancholyflapper7027
    @melancholyflapper7027 Před 3 lety +28

    The first time I was this early I was the Lebel in smokeless powder development.

  • @calebray4168
    @calebray4168 Před 3 lety

    I love this channel so much but the Connery impression just bumped it up a notch in my book, it just cements my assumption that Ian would be a really cool guy to hang with.

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson Před 3 lety +1

    Oh Ian, you’re 1 of my favourite CZcamsrs, your audience loves you both for your content & for who you are as a person but I just don’t know if I can aver forgive you for that Sean Connery impression! LOL! 😄