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The brain's job is not to pass a math test, get a promotion at work, or win a Nobel Prize. Our brain's only job is to make sure we survive today, and that we live to see another. Our brain' system worked well for us when humanity's only job was to hunt for food and fight for survival. But enter into the modern-day, our brain is not working so well as we have to rationalize problems like genetically modified foods and climate change.
This is something we have to accept about our minds and better understand how our brain works in order to better avoid pitfalls in the future. In the coming years, because of modern technology, we will be able to better identify weaknesses in our rationality and thought patterns. Once we flag these weaknesses, we can make changes to our thinking patterns so that our brains have the tools to make us more rational decision-makers.
So, how do we start thinking more rationally in the 21st century? Experts tell us that we will have to think from an outsider's perspective. To better adapt our fight or flight brains to the modern-day, we will have to step outside of our emotions, reframe our thoughts, and see things from a new perspective.
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Chapters:
0:00 David Ropeik - Is our brain equipped for modern day thinking?
0:51 Daniel Dennett - Can rationality be avoided by future thinking tools?
1:33 Dan Ariely - Looking from an outsider's perspective
2:53 Julia Galef - Rationality in careers and relationships
3:12 David Ropeik - Our brain chemistry on why we act from emotions
4:22 Julia Galef - Bayes’ Rule
4:51 Daniel Dennett - Blind spots in our own thinking
6:17 Paul Bloom - Are we prisoners of our emotions?
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How do you help yourself think more rationally?
Search out Stoicism.
by procrastinate my plans
By smoking cannabis.
listen & learn; build the foundation of knowledge and moderation ... and 1 day you may think in multiple perspectives
By questioning what facts or observations underpin my beliefs, and whether my beliefs are a correct deduction of the real world chain of causality or simply a projection.
I am afraid that we are not as rational as we would like to think. I really like the metaphor of the elephant and the rider: the elephant is your emotional intuition, shaped by your evolutionary, cultural, and social heritage, and the rider is your rationality. The elephant walks in whatever direction he pleases, and the rider subsequently tries to come up with post-hoc explanations for why the elephant did what he did. This means when we make decisions we tend to look inward to our gut feeling, and use our rationality to come up with explanations for our decisions. That also explains why in most cases you cannot change another person's mind by arguments-the arguments people give for their position are not the reason why they chose this position in the first place. Thus, a better way to have discussions with people seems to be to not address the rider (i.e., provide argument after argument), but to address the elephant-be friendly, listen to the other person, don’t try to “destroy” them with your arguments. And don't force the other person to change their mind; instead, bring forth your best argument and then give them time to draw their own conclusions. This way may seem frustrating and slow, but in my experience, it is the best way to have a constructive discussion.
Total bullshit there are known techniques for controlling emotion so it does not overwhelm your ability to be objective, mindfulness, stoicism and Zen meditation that work put the lie to the post modern idea that "socially constructed," feelings are beyond our ability to control in a rational fashion.
@@XanarchistBlogspot My point is not that we are "overwhelmed" by our emotions and thus cannot think clearly; rather, our mind has not evolved to be rational but to keep us alive. Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber for example show that the confirmation bias (or the "myside bias", as they call it) is a central element of human reasoning-for our ancestors, being able to find arguments for their own position and to convince others was more important than whether this position is rational or factually correct. Thus, we are left with a mind that is all too eager to support (i.e., find arguments for) our existing beliefs, whereas neutrally forming an educated and unbiased opinion is more of an ideal than a reality. I highly recommend the books "The Enigma of Reason" by Mercier and Sperber, and, a bit easier to read but thought-provoking nonetheless, "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt. I once had views quite similar to those presented in your comment, yet reading these books led me to reconsider my opinion about the topic.
PS: Regardless of the above, starting a discussion with stating that the other's opinion is "total bullshit" is unlikely to initiate a mutually beneficial conversation :)
Confirmation bias can be overcome with emperical testing when it comes to describing objects, and with meditation and mindfulness to control subjective feelings overwhelming ones ability to perceive objective reality.
If I do not seem overly charitable towards your post it is because the push for impulsive feelings over facts non thinking by greedy corporations pushing people to buy things, and a left that has turned from class and environmental issues that are based in objective science to glorifying hurt feelings to the level of politics. So no I have no interest in rationalizations for the emotion driven status quo.
The one bone I will throw you is that Vallis is a cool reference and I am big PDK fan.
I like your post and to my knowledge agree and can relate I will take your advice for constructive criticism into conversation. Your very smart and thank you!
@@VallisYT well said!
. "Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it." -Charles Swindoll
I like the idea of this quote, but the percentages can certainly vary by person
Great quote. It's interesting to think of what your own life's percentages are. If all your choices are a reaction to your experiences, what percentage of your life is dictated by your choices vs. the circumstances?
To @SteggyWeggy's point, it probably varies a lot by the circumstances you are born into; someone being born in ancient times or hard circumstances might have a lot less freedom to influence their lives in many respects than someone born with more opportunities.
And of course it depends on whether we believe in free will as well - but that's a whole other can of worms.
@@bigthink I'd love to go fishing
But I'm certainly sure that approximately 20% - 30% of your life is about sleeping.
@@bigthink I started living a life I am much more proud of and find more fulfillment in once I started living more deliberately instead of reactively. I was making life choices that aligned with how I wanted to live that aligned with my aspirations and values rather than how I was feeling like in the moment e.g. sad, unmotivated, lonely. More practically, this very related to the practice of delaying gratification. When you exercise discipline, that is you practice top-down control over your limbic system, you start to gain more control of your emotions so that they serve you rather than you serving them.
Correction:
The question should be - "Is the modern world cut out for our brains"
Our brains aren't the problem..our ideas of how to structure society are the problem.
Those ideas about society came from our emotions perhaps, and then our brains have been busy trying to justify the errors.
Thank you!
Meh if rational thinking produces better outcomes then emotional thinking then yes we should control our minds to live better lives. We may have made tremendous technical progress but in the process we have lost the mental techniques to be wise, calm, rational people.
Where do our ideas come from? Our brains. We construct society
Our modern societies are not cut out for our minds hearts & souls, thats why we feel the alienation, the meaningless of life, nihillism, thats why we think its all useless....simply because these societies are built, through ideologies (marxism, liberalism...) , in almost total ignorance of human nature, human needs, desires...which are in their turn distorted & replaced by suggested needs, desires, dreams...
We gotta rethink our societies in order to regain our lost....humanity & authenticity...
At no point do they say "your feelings are wrong." They are saying oftentimes your first reaction is generally more emotional, and so to make sure you're not making a purely emotional decision you might want to slow down. Some people stick with gut reactions and possibly more emotional decisions. Sometimes they are right, but that could be confused with intuition which is not always entirely rational.
Yeah, good point. In a sense, your emotions are not right or wrong - they just describe how you feel - and sometimes how we feel and what we want doesn't translate to the right course of action. Understanding this can help us make better decisions.
By think before you do action makes you more rational
I agree with your statements but maybe "slow down" before you comment lol they say that almost word for word at 3:28
I think you said this well. When we react emotionally it may feel good at the moment but reacting like this may not have the desired outcome down the road. It also weakens our position by showing our hand and by portraying ourselves as immature and erratic. I have hurt myself many times by reacting with emotion rather than giving it time before reacting. This is always better!
good video but they failed to touch upon the most important idea that the brain pathways that lead to emotion and feelings are much quicker pathways than those than lead to the neo-cortex or the "rational" part of the brain. A lot of this is hard wired. That is why therapy (cognitive) can help people. Just read Antonio Damasio's books and Joesph Ledoux's books to understand the underlying mechanisms that cause all this to happen. Both those guys are amazing writers and can explain really complex stuff in a conversational way
We need MASS cognitive therapy, it seems. The author suggestions look interesting btw, thank you!
They have caused a mass psychosis
On purpose
The pace of data and censorships taking the angel or devil off ones shoulder adds a bit of a whirly bird to a dialectic. heh all the way down it aint ignorance mmmmk naomi?
If we were feinting goats youd have something more tangible as everyone collapses when the president talks. But no, we can believe we just need more edumacations so accidents and fears dont happen.
My foundation: My home as sanctuary, strong boundaries, and good self care. Having this foundation helps me tremendously. If I notice that I am reacting to something emotionally, I don’t verbalize. Next, I engage in inward dialogue, cognitively reframing the situation; which helps me to diffuse emotional thinking and the desire to respond impulsively.
Doesn’t always work, but today I was successful with it. I thought about the situation tonight and realized some benefits. 1) It was good to remain quiet, words can never be retrieved; it’s priceless not to be plagued with regret. 2) Because I was able to cognitively reframe the situation in real time, there hasn’t been a lingering emotional sting, and no ruminating.
Bonus!
I tend to be more of an emotional thinker rather than a logical thinker. Realizing and accepting that has been helpful. Somehow lately when logic is called for I can summon it almost as if it is external.
It’s an ongoing quest, I am on the path.
For some reason, I felt this video suggested we disregard our emotions in decision making. There is still a reason they happen first, in lieu of rational thought. I think we need to equate the importance of both. Emotion is what inspires people for change to begin with. Rational thought never got me to clean my house, otherwise my house would always be spotless. Some emotional state got me motivated.
However, I do agree we need more processing time and space to weave both minds at once to make the most WISE decision.
In response with your cleaning because of emotion, I agree, sometimes I don't clean my room then a few days later get motivated to clean it because I become annoyed with how dusty certain things have gotten. Same way I'm someone that usually performs things nearer the/a deadline, as opposed to doing it immediately and completing it way before the deadline. The emotion of being annoyed I haven't got long left to do something drove me to finally do it.
Emotions are a VERY unreliable guide to action. People whipped up into an emotional mob are dangerous, think Nazi Nuremberg rallies, communist revolutions, and lynch mobs.
It was rational that then motivated you to clean ur room. You first thought that the room looks, and you agree that that is indeed bad and wrong then you got the motivation.
@@XanarchistBlogspot Maybe you need some Prof Michael Hudson in your life. I sire did, but that's because I like to understand with my little rational mind. It makes me somehow happy 😃
@@a.randomjack6661 and perhaps you need some Marcus Aurelius. I must warn you though than it is a difficult slog.
I think we made a society we are not adapted for. Basically, we evolved as tribal creatures which is one reason why there is so much individual anxiety which is also constantly used and triggered by states and corporations for whatever goal they have.
The problem is not you. This society generates sociopaths which often end at the top of organizations
Very profound.
I'd like to see enemies everywhere but I am afraid that is a luxury I cannot commit to in my lifetime.
@@c2819fnf I heard this argument long ago and many times in varied forms since. It's a short summary. As for the 'thinking argument' I would recommend 'An introduction to thinking' by Wes Cecil" and most of his lectures and of course, anything by Robert Sapolsky on behavioural biology/stress.
I'm just lucky, I got plenty of leisure time.
Have a nice day🌠
@@a.randomjack6661 lol. Good to know. I’ve attended his lectures. 🤪
@@c2819fnf I've listened to all his playlist at least 3 times. I'm really nerdy :)
Good advice but I would say instincts and first impressions are powerful and you ignore them at your own risk. Your brain is often pretty amazing at sizing up situations in an instant.
Intuition
My trick is to "sleep on it." Literally.
It helps. You distance yourself from the initial emotions and are able to think more rational
A classic strategy! When in doubt, turn yourself off and on again :).
“They think that intelligence is about noticing things are relevant (detecting patterns); in a complex world, intelligence consists in ignoring things that are irrelevant (avoiding false patterns)”
― Nassim Nicholas Taleb
I think it's about time and place too. When you're just socialising, you don't want to be too logical necessarily. You may just want to have a good time and let your emotions express themselves. I guess we just need to be able to switch to the appropriate mode easily.
*"Only I can change my life, no one can do it for me" - Carol Burnett*
But everything else can resists that change that you're trying
@@acasccseea4434 🙄 She didn’t say it was easy. She said only the individual can change their own life. 🙄
@Demetri Panici I’d like my mom to realize this reality. She’s not alone in her erroneous belief according to the previous comments 😂
A rock can change somebodys life a lost bullet, a lost lottery ticket,
A tsunami, a Gene
Its god motivation
Kinda reductionist and very very individualist
I like the vibe that you've changed recently in your youtube videos. It feels more cool and professional I think.
Absolutely spot on! Thank you. Dr. Stephan Illardi also talks about this in depth in his talk The Depression Cure.
Another awesome video from BT. Thank you so much for bringing us topics that matter. And it’s wonderful to actually learn something completely new to me; I’ve never heard of Baye’s Law. I love that algorithm. Nice way to help ensure your thinking is more solid.
Julia's book is a far better treatment of this material than 7 minute video can accomplish and understandably so. In particular, her first chapters which explored the value of irrational thinking was very welcome. First understand why something continues to exist before thinking about why and how to move away from it. I think we've all experienced that "just be more rational LOL" as an approach is doomed to fail if we don't understand why it's so useful to not be. Very much like "just eat less" as a weight-loss tactic is often doomed to fail if you don't also address the psychological hunger, triggers and habits that cause the overeating in the first place.
We tend to forget that we're the feeling animal that thinks not the thinking animal that feels.
Some never even know that in the first place!
"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined." -Henry David Thoreau
2:54 to 3:09 what she explained it's also known as "The sunk cost fallacy" , I loved this type of videos, feel like all my readings on psychology and other related topics complement a lot with what all these professionals say :D
Would definitely recommend Julia's book "The Scout Mindset" to anyone watching this
Taking more time doesn’t work. It’s much more important to think that you might be wrong. At work we had a lunch group that talked about politics religion, ethics, it was actually quite amazing that we did so reasonably politely for quite some time. However nobody ever really changed their core beliefs they just found ways to rationalize. So if you wanna be rational doubt yourself, it may not be pleasant, it may not be what pop psychologist tell you to do, but it’s the best way.
@Thomaskist Can we connect through any social platform?
This is needed.
Good ideas. Thank you.
Sometimes we have to feel more than we think, for there are instances that take place where we would must live our lives, not constantly reflecting. Journals at night truly help me become more coherent and soundly in recalling my day.
However there are cases where we need to think, as it's a way to act on some emotional act of moral and ethics. Better decisions and brainstorming on recreational, home-based, or learning activities. It's quite ironic really.
Thinking helps moral and knowledge while feeling helps us live our lives and keep guard as a way of reflexes.
Very nice, thx for sharing
Our brain’s are the best adapting part of our bodies and with this knowledge of health and wealth I see a positive future for anyone of any level of activity.
Interesting idea that we need time in order to think and make the right decision. This totally oposses to the fast pace of the world, where every changes quickly and productivity must be instantaneous.
So basically, we hardly decide for ourselves
Illuminating yet troubling message in this short in time but packed in content Vedio
It's not good to ignore emotions, and it's not good to be trapped in your own world of thoughts and emotions. I try to strike a balance on the positive side. I try to be rational about emotions I have. But I always leave a positive place aside to see what emotions have to say. Everyone needs a vent, and then they might see better where they are going right and wrong with how they feel. And then there is a need for quality information and input; something to let the rational mind work on. In a world of knowledge, wisdom is the biggest need.
"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it." -Henry Ford
Nice summary
Thanks for commenting this really helped
After reading all the comments, what I think is that the people out here are really amazing beings and so understanding and open to the world.. I really would like to connect with you people anywhere you like. Kindly provide me some information that where I can connect with you guys. Thank you everyone.
Thank you
wow, I used this method all the time since high school, I guess I'm pretty lucky to figure this out hehe.
Your the epitomi of invoation thank you so much BIG THINK team......!
Great!
Great video
Feelings carry more weight than facts and what we know is true. Man that is something to think about. Very good stuff.
*"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength." - Marcus Aurelius*
Damn, I say some interesting shit don't I?
@@narxes this has nothing to do with external circumstances but internal control. Even some people in literal concentration camps were able to control their feelings to be able to write profoundly about the horror of the Holocaust.
What about mental illness and brain damage?
@@Catlily5 Ultimately there is no "you" in your head doing any of this, Irregardless of mental illness or brain damage. There's no ghost in the machine behind the face pulling the levers and pushing the buttons in the brain.
@@TravisBickle0312 Your mind is "you" ...
What would be a perfect solution 10 years ago is a extended amplification of every aspect of problems ontop of the 100% compensated induced consequence intended
Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking, Fast and Slow" really changed my life.
at 5:46, aka critical thinking. included in that process is, the filtering/comparing/questioning of incoming information. it takes much longer to describe this, than it does to carry it out.!
Good video ... except that Bayes' Rule should be applied to the "challenges" mentioned at the beginning .... climate change, GMO, unsustainable living
Leopold 'Butters' Stotch - [rubbing his temples] "Ow. That hurt my brains." [the pain gets worse] "Oww."
Please make summary at the end of video
There is a great book called "The Art of Thinking Clearly" by Rolf Dobelli
SELF KNOWLEDGE
I think first, then feel. I have trained my self to analyze, then react second rather that act on emotion unless it’s life or death.
problem solving menolong kita banget untuk menjadi lebih rational
We controls our actions and thoughts. We don’t control directly our emotions. Those are created by our own thoughts. Real time thoughts or automatic thoughts. Automatic thoughts creates an emotion even before your thoughts. That’s on what you have to focus the more.
The advice about taking time works for money:
Take more time before purchasing something that you think you need, that you think you want or desire and you'll soon see that you don't really need it. If you feel stupid after spending your money on something it's not that you're stupid, it's that you just didn't take enough time to think. It's okay you're a human but do efforts to think more rationally before using your money.
EMDR experts have claimed that our mind lies a lot. here this video tells me to not taking my feelings seriously
All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to persue them keep going your are on the way to success 🧠🧠📚📚📚🦁🦁🦅🦅💯💯💯💯💯
I agree
I even dislike when people ask "how do you feel about this?" giving preference to feelings over asking "what do you think about this?".
🤔 thinking is hard enough, thinking rationally now that's a whole new level
I took more time now the real estate is 50% more expensive.
Feelings are subjective and merely the individual opinions of the person having them. They are neither right or wrong, imho. But where the rubber hits the road, are the actions and consequences that takes place inspired by them.
Feel, think, act. That's the right order.
These are the things I normally think about when I'm high on THC
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. -Thomas A. Edison
this is not directly related to this video, but i needed to read this. i was thinkkong abaout this quote yesterday too.
Yeah like him on tesla
Sunk cost fallacy
It's one of the trickiest questions there is. It certainly must be true - for every one who tried a hundred times until they succeeded, there must be many more who gave up - and yet quitting a fruitless endeavor can also free us up to pursue new goals that may be more successful. Perhaps we should be using a version of Bayes Rule as per the video - not just looking at whether our current goal might work, but whether other options might work better.
Some people are way more emotional than others and hence use their emotions as a filter for how they interact with the world first. Conflicts arise when more cold, calm and rational people try to debate and argue with the more emotionally driven people.
SOMEONE PLS HELP ME With music from 3.25????WHOSE MUSIC IS IT???
2:00 👌👌👌
Take outsider perspective,
Update your decision, beware of sinking cost,
Take more time before decision,
Make an opposition to your self,
Bayes rule update your theory, with the evidence,
3:36 Haha, that's what I'm trying to reduce in my life - dwelling on things😃🤦♂️
Really brain both magnificent and terrifying at the same time, bcs we don't know from where thoughts do come who controls my brain who leads my brain!! Even the thought that I have now how from where does it come 😅
We must take decision based on intuition if parameters are more,and verify result with logic.
Otherwise for less no of parameters logic is best
Good title.
"The genesis of information is the moment of recognition of distinctness."(moi) - changing perspective is a method to achieve exactly this.
A discipline of education, the id needs control over emotions. Sounds like a mindfulness lesson.
No one uses ration or reason more than a madman. When on the tracks with a train approaching you shouldn’t consider whether the train itself could be stopped.
I do agree this is valuable information but the modern day and age is very polarising. I myself began to reason with reality very deeply and was thrown from existencial crisis to the next, rationality can often try to lead to one point and emotion without reason can be very overwhelming. Now I’m working towards a good middle ground but I exercise both sides of my brain with problem solving and imagining as I realise life is best approached holistically as it’s in our nature. Being mutual with myself.
Problem with taking time is the 40 work week is too long.
And what about all the other factors that come “ flying “ through our live ~ that we have no control over.
We don't ever have control over things that happens to us, only how we choose to react to them. ✌🏻
Stoicism teaches this concept in a greater capacity and in greater depth
I'm glad you mentioned that, because I don't like the old "our brain is not meant for the modern world" line....throughout history, people have understood that rash decisions and poor results come from relying on emotion over reason. Though we have some problems unique to our age, that could be said of any era...so bottom line is, there's nothing special today about either human nature or the world we live in.
@@j3ffn4v4rr0 Well said.
Stoicism teaches us to be aware of our emotions, but to not act on them, instead think through the situation. Not to shelve our emotions, but be aware of them.
Granted I am no philosopher and somewhat new to the teachings, but currently, this is the jist of what I have been reading.
My beliefs are usually not actually truths.
However, I almost always thought my beliefs were in fact truth in almost every instance.
Something polar opposite to that mindset is usually the case.
Time to review before taking action on a belief, or settling into a belief, is crucial for rationally proceeding.
Be the old Bull.
I like the video
Most people don't know how to think, much less what to think. All the more reason to put people of expertise in charge of their areas of expertise in all areas and capacities of modern society.
Thinking has become a retention when it was supposed to be otherwise.
David Hume and Baruch Spinoza tells this also
Become a Vulcan!! Seriously though your emotions can lie to you. Emotions become good or bad depending on the action you take.
what if you have no people to consult your theory or find new theory?
my parents don't care, especially my father. I'm trapped in my own room. I try to ask others advice on socialization and they tell me to figure it out my self or just "be yourself", no proper direction is given. I'm fighting alone, and every passing day it brings me greater bitterness to a society or country I feel alienated.
Then don't ask. Get out of your room and experience life ups and downs. Interact with people and learn to think about your life outside your current circle. Join an interesting club, group or class with like minded interests or talk to people on the street, whatever you can find with no particular expectations other than to feed your brain. Sounds like you are holding yourself captive. Take action for yourself and make your life better.
@@PDogB I did. And what I get is people having no time, having their own circle and seems to know what they are doing already, and if you ask them they give you a weird look or say you should consult mental professionals.
For example, I once go out and grab a girl's hand, because I see women look happy when they take hold of the hand of another man, so I figure holding hands will make women feel attracted to me. Yet they just violently shake it off and threaten to call the police. What can I do? That's the price of going out and experiment: you risk committing crime.
@@williampan29 Regarding your example above, it is not a social norm to "grab a women's hand," and will not attract women, or anyone to you. Are you originally from this country? Perhaps start with studying american behaviors and culture. Holding hands is generally seen as being in some kind of relationship or special understanding between two people first. If you are from a different country, maybe seek out others who have more experience living in this country with a similar back ground as yourself. It's true that most people are especially sensitive to actions they don't find familiar, or understand in present times.
@@PDogB but who? Who will teach me all the social norms from the ground up? And if I ask them, I would just violate what you just advice me: don't ask.
So I must ask: and ask someone that understands me instead of thinking: how could this guy not know any of those things? And he/she must be tolerant enough that he will not reject me out of his/her social circle, or to keep a distance when i unknowningly violate something
I tried various times. Many times those rejections and alienations can be as painful as a dagger stab into my heart. Every rejection triggers a trauma of being bullied or ptsd. For me, exploration is not having new opportunities, but akin to navigating a field of landmines.
@@williampan29 The very questions you ask are the exact ones many talk to therapists for. People you'll encounter are mostly good, but are cautious and judgemental when meeting strangers. And not all personalities see eye to eye either. You seem smart and have a good understanding of the english language,, so you are ahead of the game. The "various times" you tried it and it did not turn out well happened for a reason. Obviously, you are doing something wrong and need to learn from this and try something else. To keep doing the same things that don't work is not reasonable or a good way to meet people. It's not just you, but all of us have to pick ourselves up after rejections and keep trying when we want something that is hard. It's part of everyone's life. If what you say is true about your "trauma" and "ptsd," then you do need some professional help. Sorry, but that may be your next step before you are able to do achieve this. My suggestion is: don't touch people in any way unless you know them very well. A smile and saying "hello" is the key and first step to finding out if people are interested in further conversation with you. If they don't want that, don't look at it as a negative rejection, just keep trying with someone else. You are the only one who can do this for yourself.
How can this quality vids be free?))
Personally I've struggled with the human condition, I know that even when my minds busy with a task, most of my brain is just idle, honestly I latched on to stimulus through drugs and alcohol, I've never been comfortable with any situation in my life, I have trouble with addictive personality, and not just drugs, sex, sugar, physical workouts, walking, running, skating, swimming. I try to keep myself occupied but my brains always way ahead of me and almost out of touch.
With Bayes, I also then flip to disprove my pet theory using the data I have.
Understanding the whole false positive example for the actual algorithm.
HIV test is 99% accurate.
The population has say 5% HIV.
The odds of a false positive is actually higher than the chance of a random person testing positive correctly.
This theory also gets skewed by sample bias. Eg if a Dr order's the test, then they usually have reasonably higher odds to test you (some symptoms or suspicions) so it's more likely to be true.
There are better examples of Bayes but it really is incredible.
Hello brain! I am no longer getting chased by lions so you'll let me do all my non-survival stuff thanks you.
Rational is not always correct. Our emotions are also made for social skills too, it isn't like we stopped evolving after some time so yeah not being rational sometimes is right.
Be irrational in a safe environment. Breathe. Call a rational friend. Make tea.
Peace, happiness, to all beings everywhere. 🙏🏽
@@ziziroberts8041 agreed 👍
True, it depends on the situation. An ex cheated on me and I became hypervigilant in perceived threats to my current relationship. When I was with the ex, I (emotionally) sensed something wasn't right. My intuition was rightfully warning me, but I wasn't over reacting because I hadn't been cheated on before. Now in my current relationship, the smallest assumed threat or even non-threat would make me paranoid and check whether he is cheating or not. And in this case, I'm usually wrong, and he's been faithful. The weird thing is I do trust him (he even acknowledges I give him too much freedom), but my past is clouding my rationality and judgement.
But how do you know that ‘outside perspective’ is to trust and is someone reliable
I have two questions for people that value rational thinking, as I myself have been doing for the largest part of my life. What is depression, and is it possible to believe in rationality? All my rational thinking leads to this latter question, as one has to believe in something in order to put one foot infront of the other or to get out of bed in the morning. There is no reason to live, so there has to be a leap of faith there in some way or another. My hypothesis is that depression is a lack of belief.
Alternate idea, depression is frustration for a lack of a logical solution. Too much stimulation trying to find its niche in your mind can confuse the options, best tackle bits and pieces rather than the entire thing. Hope your solutions are beneficial, it’s all individual and can’t really be canned as a therapeutic tool, only seeded as a potential problem solver.
The statement that "Bayes rule is the best way to reason about evidence" seems to contract Bayes rule
Well someone at Big Think knows Big Think's back catalogue. ! Great stuff. It can be a challenge getting older videos to come up as either recommendations or search results.
My conspiracy is that the spam in the comment section is no coincidence. As it increases the "engagement" of the videos, it's possible the spam is part of the reason we had this in our recommended.
Hmm. But I was given to lay praise upon the video; finding a sort of rare sentimentality in the recruitment of older material in blend with the newer. Just bring back the old jingle sometimes withal!
Computers will help us think and feel one day--give us perspectives. This would be an exciting problem to solve.
yeah i feel like eating sugar but i also think it's bad for me, most of the time it's my feelings that win over my thinking
Nope. It is your feeling of pain from negative consequences of eating sugar that is winning over feeling of pleasure from eating sugar.
"A wise man seeks council"
But where? 😜
@@a.randomjack6661 great question.
We each need to learn that from experience, over time.
@@PBAmygdala2021 I do not neglect the experience of others, but it's hard to find others that see and think clearly.
Luckily, there's a few on this internet thing, like Robert Sapolsky (behavioural biology), Prof. Michael Hudson (economist), those guys (journalists) at moderate rebels to name a few that I came across.
Happy surfing ⌨
SELF KNOWLEDGE
@@a.randomjack6661 if you are infatuated with a romantic partner ask your mother who is not infatuated. Seek council of someone who knows your situation but is not invested emotionally about it.
Ha, HA HA. Dad joke of the year right here 😂😭🔥 0:00 - 0:06
This Bay's Rule, seems like a re-spinning or recycling (or a development) of Piaget's concepts of "assimilation" and "accommodation", is it not?
Baye. Lookup Bayesian math for more.
@@markhathaway9456 Will do. Thanks.
@@markv785 My daughter just bought that book for me. It's next on the reading table.
I don't think throwing the towel at every failed attempt in a business or anything in life will get us far. We need to stick to things and be consistent sometimes because discipline is needed when we're not motivated in order to achieve greatness. So, I really don't believe staying persistent is always bad like she makes it sound. Loved the other professional's explanation 👏
The reality of our reality is far beyond what most can accept..simply not prepared for "what that means" Our bodies contain technologies far beyond our cognition..for example the Human Heart was only recently found to have "NEURONS" (look it up) and what that even means to how we perceive the world.
rational link to "cause and effect".this link to logic.
I think this premise is wrong. There is a reason to feel. Treating feelings as an enemy to rational thought is misguided. No one would have the conviction to carryout their rational thoughts without the feelings that stir within them to carry them across the threshold. At the end of the day feelings and rational thought are but two parts that contribute to our decisions. To exclude one is to deny a part of ourselves, that way of thought can only lead to intellectualizing and justifying an incomplete conclusion.
Meh the stoics and Zen Buddhist prove that in fact the emotions can be controlled and that controlling emotions leads to better outcomes then letting them swamp you. Freedom from slavery to passions is necessary for self actualization.
How do Zen Buddhists act then, the goal of Zen meditation is to 100 percent extinguish the passions which the Buddha correctly observed lead to suffering.
There is a place for art and understanding our feelings. I play music to express myself. But raw emotion should never be a guide to action in the world on a day to day basis.
@@XanarchistBlogspot Yes, not raw emotion, but tempered emotion.
@@XanarchistBlogspot But exactly: the stoics and zen budhists were and are extremly conformists. They lead to better outcomes for surviving the status quo, not for changing it.
@@prosperenfantinylosgeograf2721
1. This just assumes changing the status quo is a good thing.
2. A woke apologist who likely literally believes in punishing people for wrong think i.e. going against social consensus has a lot of nerve talking about "conformity." In fact far from being socially conformist the ability to control emotions is rare and shows one isn't part of the herd.