All-Out fan assisted mosquito killer teardown. (With schematic.)
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- Another neat mosquito repeller/killer from India. This version has the extra feature of a fan that kicks in with its turbo setting. Very reminiscent of a plug-in air freshener that used to be sold in the UK.
Keywords to find this online are - All out ultra fan. Note that the unit is primarily designed for 220-240V use. It may not be a good idea to use it on 120V as the current through the circuitry will be higher. A non fan assisted version is also available.
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I'm a bench tech and the number of times I have said to my co-workers "I learned this trick watching Big Clive" is getting slightly embarrassing. But so it goes. I'm the guy with the solder needles and that's what matters. Thanks BC!
it's embarassing to have a reliable teacher? oh my.
@@zackstewart4109 good nyan :3
@@zackstewart4109 So did bigclive. If you're bored and have ingenuity, you'll too be making little tricks. All it takes is being fed up with the repetitive mundanity and screaming GOD DAMNIT WHY ISN'T THERE A BETTER WAY aaand that's the industrial revolution in 1 short comment.
3:25 - "All the text is tiny these days."
Yep, that text keeps getting smaller - even the text on the things you've had on your shelf for the past five years went and shrunk. ;-)
I swear, there just has to be some concerted effort by lawyer's offices around the world that's behind this.
When you went to probe those LED resistors I wondered for a few moments why you picked up that little board? I was expecting you to go straight to the resistors in front of you...which I forgot was a photo...
I seem to be doing more of that sort of thing..Oh dear.
You are not the only one. Pretty much every time there's a print on screen for a few minutes I forget it's a print.And then I wonder how easy it is for Clive to write stuff on the top of a capacitor for example.
@@superdau Ha, ha....Were you alive in the 60s?
2:00 I was secretly hoping for the Vise of Knowledge. No matter, it all ends the same....pieces everywhere and the secrets revealed!
Content with the Magnifying Glass of Truth.
Do a teardown video about the porter cable cordless nail gun.
I was hoping for Unreasonable Force. My favorite recurring villain.
So many uses for the Portable One-Piece X-ray machine…
@@michaelthibault7930 Truer words have yet to be spoken.
Love the part where you drill it in half then go "hang on power test!"
@0:47 - Behold the Magnifying Glass of Inquiry!
I'm in no way as smart as Big C. Sometimes it takes me awhile to wrap my brain around things. But. This circuit is cleaver. And what amazes me the most... I understand it. Thanks, Big C, for making me exercising my brain muscle. I see something in this circuit that may be interesting. Cut one of the fan connections, then plug it in. I'm willing to bet that something is going to go POP ! A zenar.
The same brand here in Brazil is called Raid, same logo, just different text.
I never seen one of this kind being sold here, the one i have is one with an embed timer, so it works automatically at night and turn off by the morning.
It's even called Raid in America.
All out/Raid is by SC Johnson, (a family company!) who, if I'm correct, also owns Air Wick, so you arent far off, Clive.
2:28 Don't worry Clive. I drilled into my finger, so you don't have to 😉
That company that you're calling just "Johnson" is actually SC Johnson (formerly SC Johnson Wax).
I have used a 10 inch 3600 RPM fan to get rid of flies in the house. It's loud, messy, and effective.
I wish they sold these units with fans here in Greece. The big problem with these liquid and mat styles of mosquito killers is that the chemical that evaporates and condenses on the wall leaving a "brown streak" for at least 40cm above the outlet. When you try to paint over this streak it leaches through again within a month. Wish they had shellac readily available here or the Binz primer we have in the USA, its white and shellac based. Does a great job at sealing in stains.
The carrier liquid is kerosene. It might help to plug it into an adaptor that is further out from the wall.
12:40, these new gallium nitride green LEDs run on basically nothing current-wise. In order to make them lit at the same brightness as red LEDs you basically have to decrease the current 10x.
Thanks, I was also amazed, how the 12v fan working with 240V AC, without any step-down regulator or X Rated Capacitor...!!
There are times when I use different values of resistors with LEDs because some LEDs are brighter than others, especially with different colors.
I was watching a music video and when it was done, I found myself saying "OK, give me something by Clive, Clive, Now". Ahh, relaxation and knowledge of some spludge I never knew existed. Ahh. Like a Spa. You are in my top 2 Clive.
The Hopi needs its own introduction fanfare!
Who disliked the video...maybe it was accidental...or they feel really strongly about rights for tiny, annoying, fatal disease spreading, insects.
Probably bots.
Maybe Clive has a skeeter as a viewer?
Clive could you do a video on PAR's, how it works and what it is used for.
I wonder if they make half of them with the rectifier diodes mounted one way, and half with the other. Transformers really don't like asymmetrical loads, and it might be OK for one or two, but imagine millions of these across the mains...
Thats a good question...altho I think most manufacturers dont give a damn...but still something to ponder
Those glass bottles are easily refillable. I have pried the top off my AirWick bottles to save money on refills and dumped in Dollar Store Liquid Potpourri (although it makes the wick expand and burst the plastic sheath around it).
At first I thought that was a ripoff of an American product called Raid. Turns out that IS Raid under a different name.
Thank You again for more stuff to keep me tied to the computer. I have an idea.
Can you start a timer and show us the total time you put into one of theses projects that you end up doing a lot of off camera work?
This may have been mentioned before, but SC Johnson wax is a major American company in line with Duracell and Ford. This seems to be a variation on the Raid brand (looking at the logo) and probably a revision of a 110V north ameican bug repeller.
I also took these apart and harvested the ceramic resistor from them! I was impressed how simple it was, but who knows how many fires this could set up??? This one is very sophisticated!
If you travel around south east asia, you will see these everywhere. Every house will have several of them; some of them running continuously for weeks on end. There are literally millions of these around and they seem to be remarkably safe even in a culture where the concept of health and safety at home is non existent.
@@nrml76 When I saw how simple the ceramic resistor across the hot and ground wire (neutral I should say) and the heat it creates makes the stuff evaporate. BUT stuff can go haywire and burn. but for most it is safe. I'm not even talking about the power it is using per month, is a second cost most people do not calculate.
Lets hope that nobody gets hurt! I would be afraid to make a such device myself! Thanks for letting me know Nirmal.
Should be fairly safe, the more they heat up, the higher the resistance, which means they heat up less and stabilise, unless they're faulty, but that's true of anything. They're used as resetting fuses, they're neat, and easy to use, but they're not easy to make, a lot of engineering
One day the "light" will come on and I will understand. It just doesn't "flow" like mechanical mechanisms, which I totally get. I think that is why I am in awe of the electronics experts. They can "see" what can't be seen.
It'll all just fall into place over time.
"Let's take a break from electric stuff and look at electrical stuff instead?" *Has confused expression on face*
I have my doubts as to the mosquito-killing ability of this device. Maybe the heat draws them through the fan. An aerosol spray will disperse permethrum just fine.
The resistance for the green LED is also greater because the fan source voltage is pulled low by the transistor, putting higher voltage across the green LED & 680k resistor.
Hey Thanks for ur comment
15:34 perfectly balanced, where did i hear that before :D
I'd be interested to see what is the current going through each LED. Just out of curiosity. Since they have such very different resistors.
Weird to see it's called "All Out" in India. In Australia (and the US I think) the brand is 'Raid'.
In Germany it was named Paral, then Paral Raid and now just Raid.
It was an existing brand in India that was acquired by SC Johnson. Hence the name.
"Let's probe those resistors."
... Resistance is futile?
Sammich. Wow, a shitty day can be turned around on a dime. Thanks, big guy.
Is that the Drill of Enlightenment?
2:15 I've been looking here in the US for metric drill bits, what with assembling Ikea furniture for a partial living, and the best I can do is bits in the 64th inch range that are somewhat close. My 13/64" (5.16mm) bit gets a workout on PAX wardrobe joins (supposed to be 5mm, but can't find that here for love or money).
Don't know where you live Alan, but in less than 15 seconds I found these:
www.ebay.com/itm/Drill-Hog-USA-25-Pc-Metric-HI-Molybdenum-M7-Drill-Bit-Set-MM-Lifetime-Warranty/172790351880?hash=item283b1b8808:g:IE8AAOSwW6BaLF46
All out is called Raid where I live.
The drill needs some nice warm led's installed .........TAKE THE DRILL APART TAKE THE DRILL APART TAKE THE DRILL APART
Drills are basically designed to be taken apart :)
Did that intro make anyone else laugh as hard as me 👍
Would red duct tape help the flickering maybe?
Johnson is that the same company that made asbestos talcum powder?
No, that would be Johnson & Johnson. This Johnson company is SC Johnson.
No shortage of johnsons
Why is there no device to shoot down flies ?
In 1944, We invented a radar that was capable of shooting down doodlebugs. The system was known as "Antwerp X".
What about bluebottle X ?
A death ray is out of the question but high fequency sound might give them buzzkil.
Why not throw OH&S (especially the S part) to the wind and, yes, go for that death ray!? - this'll fit the bill nicely - www.banggood.com/450nm-5W-Laser-Engraving-Module-Blue-Light-With-TTL-Modulation-p-1337358.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=AU , and you might also decide to buy qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-15e357a003d8835919b15f3ee74d7000 whilst you vision is OK :-)
The high frequency sound is being used for Dog and Cat Chasers
@@kimsleep4111 I quite like cats and dogs. No much higher than even mice can hear.
@@phils4634 You might be able to blind a fly with a low power laser if you could track it accurately.
@@blancsteve4819 Tracking might not be essential. If you use an optical line generator (as used in laser levels) and scan perpendicular to the line orientation, you could (in theory at least) have a "scatter-gun" approach. I don't know how much power might be needed, but I suspect watts rather than milliwatts.
Your video is very nice to understand the board. what is the name of the transistor??
It would be a standard NPN transistor.
Glade air freshener is a Johnson brand
in Romania All Out is called Raid
Ah-ha. Sufficiently few comments there's a chance you'll read this one. So, completely unrelated to the video, here's a suggestion for a project.
This was inspired by my own (successful) experiments and realizing that it would also be suitable for you when I saw your most recent Manx Beard video.
Items required:
1) A laser pointer. Any colour (as long as it's visible, not IR or UV). Any style - could be the standard pen shape or it could be a mouse-shape laser toy for a cat.
2) A long beard with a significant amount of white in it.
Method:
Hold laser pointer to the side of your head. Aim it at the white portion of your beard. Turn it on and waggle it around.
Result:
Lots of laser sparkles jumping around in your beard.
I just tried it. It's very spatial.
@@BigClive
I thought you might like it. A portable light show. Fun at Christmas. Even better with two lasers of different colours, one in each hand.
Any chance of a video? :)
Thanks for this teardown . I justed wanted to know that how this fan works on AC in my *All out* but I don't wanted to destroy it.
Love from india.
Quite handy that they're pretty much the same as regular air fresheners, once bitey flying thing season is done, just pop in an air freshener bottle to disguise the scent of the summer sweats... :P
Yes, those are Glade scent vials!
the glass air fragrance bottle is good for making metho lamps to melt par cored or melt nylon rope ends to stop un raverling
thick copper wire coil push in napkin as wick
I have the same EXACTLY one at home. Works amazingly well
@2:30 -- Good to know I'm not the only 40+ year old to regularly use the expression "heebie-jeebies"
Looking for a compact soldering iron to take with me while I'm out on my route of fixing pinball machines. Most of them time I'm only doing one or two connections and it would be nice to have something that heats up and cools off quickly. Most machines have a electrical socket inside. Any recommendations?
3:25 unfortunately that's just ageing eyeballs... I find a geeky niece or nephew (when available) is a great help in IDing components & reading instructions etc...
Yep! I used to be able to read the serial number on a gnat. Now I can barely see the gnat itself.
Pro tip: if you print "SPECIAL OFFER" on the packaging itself, you can save 0.10₹ on stickers and the offer will still look just as realistic! :P
Art
And it improves the recycling potential of the packaging.
Please, Clive, can you attack the HOPI so it does not flicker on camera so we can read it Love the videos
The multiplexing is probably tied in with the metering software, so it is unlikely the flicker can be stopped. It looks rock solid to the naked eye, but none of the cameras like it.
THe problem with the machines that these keep getting broken down after some time not reliable.....
Do a teardown video about the porter cable cordless nail gun.
Clive please can you do a teardown of a cheap Smartwatch. I'd love to know what is inside them. Especially the ones with the heartrate monitors.
The heart rate and oxygen monitors usually just use a red and infrared LED to detect the way the light transmission is affected by the pumping blood. The designs will be very optimised. Probably just a few dense pin-count chips and a smattering of support components.
Not five minutes before I find this video I splat a big mosquito. The timing could not have been better.
oh! that is just like that other one. *reaches over and grabs the remains of something he killed 5 years ago that just happens to be within arms reach*
I wonder what this area looks like off camera. Enquiring minds want to know.
Power goes up with the fan on because the airflow cools the element. Simples.
[edit] Or not so simples. I should watch the entire video before commenting. Nevertheless, if the switched PTC failed, the power consumed by the unswitched PTC would increase with the fan on.
You're reading this comment, now look at the side of my name.
Thanks for your video. I want to use the circuit by DC supply at the output of the rectifying diode. What is the minimum DC supply voltage is required for its working? Plz. Suggest.
Great video Clive
S. C. Johnson and Son is truly owned and run by the Johnson family and is very old and successful. It is a HUGE US company which has a presence nearly everywhere in the world.
Why should that repel/kill mosquitos? What is in the liquid?
Very poor soldering job on this one. Johnson should have spent 1ct more for soldering and could have non-working warranty returns down by 90%
You'd be surprised. People buy these things, plug them in, and forget about them. If they don't work, a lot of people won't even notice.
There are no mosquitos in the Isle of Man, well, not now there aren't ...
Not sure I'd call it a clever circuit. Take the bottom end of PTC-1 and bottom end of the 680K directly to 'N'. Remove the 120K and the trasnsistor and I think it will work just as it did before (may need to tweak values).
I'm not sure if that'd pass enough current to run the fan at full speed.
(I suppose your idea could work with a 24V fan, but they might not have succeeded in obtaining a 24V fan that small; it's a 40mm fan if I'm reading the label correctly, and only some manufacturers bother making 24V versions of those. Also, 24V fans tend to be less efficient, so for the same speed the current draw is still more than half that of the 12V equivalent.)
If Clive reads this, then go ahead and check if that modification works properly…
(On another note: The displayed power factor of 0.85 is strange; it should be about 0.707 for a half-wave rectified resistive load. So I'm not sure how much we can rely on the HOPI meter; maybe it somehow accidentally AC-couples the current waveform before sampling? If it uses a current-sensing transformer, that could do so; there may also be a distortion effect.)
Translutheran makes you call everybody in Australia offering 20% of your electric bill , it did come from India ?
Mosquitos are watching this.......cool circuit...
Could u pls tell me rating of FAN. i was able to read 12volt but not able to read its amp. plz tell me . i need it.
These are based on the Airwick air fresheners.
Actually, it's a Glade design. Airwick is owned by S.C. Johnson competitor Reckitt Benckiser.
This video is released today ( 8 mei 2019 ) and already we have comments from a week ago ???
Be a supporter and go to the front of the line
Yeah, what gives?
Probably Patreon early access to unlisted videos.
@@jamesvandamme7786 ....in the front....there is no line....! Lol
@Navin: Judging by the amount of Clive’s Patreon’s, there’s already quite a queue...
How can I modify the system to run the fan at its full fledge all the time?
It has basic principle as this fan draw not mote than 80mah so a resister and diode is used for to reduce voltage and current and later zener to protect and capacitor to smooth . It is very simple.
2:30 Cheers Clive 2:35 well, cheers only a bit but cheers the same. 2:37 ayy.
hi cleive how can a nerve poison what hkills insects be harmless to humans me for instance i get headaches from it and i feel sick whe that stuff is in the air
Insects are different than humans
Pretty sure with this class of chemicals it's because humans deactivate it way faster than insects
So for a small, continuous exposure people have no effect, insects have an increasing effect until it stops them.
@@RobertSzasz thank you for the info
I can see the effects already...
General truism, attested to by Clive's taste tests:
The poison's in the dosage.
is that even good for us at all..? i dont like the idea of having bug killer floating around in the room i sleep in or anywhere erf.
Hey Clive which book do you recommend us to read for electronics as a beginner? I already own Make:Electronics
These days it's probably better to find an introductory electronics website that you click with. In the past I used to recommend buying electronics magazines, but they seem to be harder to find now.
I hate it when I drill my hand
fillg
When I was around 11 I used my leg as a drill platform.
I still have the scar.
@@makeracistsafraidagain Ouch, that's not only a scar, it's a reminder not to do it again.
Want to buy something effective. Don't know this fan all out dose good job or just show off.
Can you do a a blender or 3 way speaker teardown?
The reason thermistor at 115 oc is so it fails sooner rather than later so you buy them regular
Doesn't makes sense for the company, because the machines are virtually sold for free, the cost is basically for the liquid repellent, there is not much difference between the cost of the liquid bottle and cost of the combo box which includes the machine and liquid bottle. There is due to price war and clever marketing tactics, as the machines can only be used with the same brand bottles, and these bottles will last for 15 days on turbo setting, whereas these machines are designed to last very long so that the customer keep purchasing the same brand bottles.
@@PriyankBolia these would cost probably about 20 machines to a rupee so very cheap and insecticide is where they get repeat buys ergo the profit think it said 2-3 rupees to buy from shop so do make profit not going to sell if no money in it
Watched video looks like 199 or 1.99 reduced to 1.25 or 125 the price
Gotta love the Clivecad lol
I wonder how much active chemical there is compared to water 🤔
About 1% transfluthrin in a deodorised kerosene oil.
@@BigClive Mmm... Flammable
@Phonotical: So you’re house could burn down. At least the mosquitoes are dead as well, so the device is working😋
@@frankbakker248 fuck the house so long as I'm OK 😂
Clive can u redesigned the whole circuit with capacitor dropper.
Given that it's using the resistors for heat it makes sense to use them to supply the fan current too.
That will not fit in normal grounded EU sockets as the pins as to short....
Why not screws?They want to make it hard to open but don't want to shell out for security screws?
You'd have to be barking mad to want to open one of these things and learn what's going on inside of it, really. Besides, think of the micro-pennies saved by not having to order, stock, and install such screws. You don't need machinery or bits or programming of automata to install screws you don't have anyway. The clamshell _is_ the fastener. Smush, click, "Next!".
If we're fortunate, the next step in the evolution of case fasteners will require no tools at all to disassemble -- only the Vulcan Mind Meld.
@@michaelthibault7930 OwOooo!
What is the purpose of shunting out the Fan ? Cool Video Sir.
_IIUC_ , the low setting uses only one of the two available PTCs, which have a _degree_ of self-regulation built-in: as the temperature rises, the resistance in the object creating the heat (dissipating power) rises; the current drops, and less power is dissipated (less heat is generated)… It's a feedback loop in any case. Speaking of cases: I suspect the reason the fan is there at all is not so much to push the transfluthrin (?) into the surrounding air (which it does, but as an incidental side-benefit), but to keep the plastic body of the device from melting and dripping down the wall onto the floor when it's running both PTCs ("High"). IOW, the fan is for pushing heat out of the device at least as much as it is for pushing out the vaporized insecticide.
(Loathsome interface, Google. Loathsome and quirky.)
@@michaelthibault7930 Yep, I can see that. Cool Bean. GooGle Biases as Hell and Not to the Right.
Woo-hoo nice to see a new video. =) Ty sir.
'All the text is tiny' someone should have gone to Specsavers
I did. It's extra super tiny to me. With HD you guys can probably read it easier than me.
@@BigClive sorry Clive, I was only teasing. I was on a mobile phone and of a similar age to yourself and have started finding small text harder to read too. BTW, the last live session was fantastic, thanks for the hard work and entertainment. I'm sure everyone can agree on that😁
Off topicm but does anyone know what diameter and type of solder Clive uses. It seems to work perfect.
The size I use most is 22swg. Noting that from my usual supplier it's now restricted to professional use by the eco-hippies. www.rapidonline.com/rapid-solder-wire-60-40-22swg-0-7mm-500g-reel-85-0595
I love your videos.
There should be a vote, Zenner or Zeener
He was American, but his name may have German origins. In which case it would be more like Tsayner (originally).
Zeener
In the shop where I worked everyone said "Zee-ner"
@@tncorgi92 I'd agree
HOPI meter teardown when?
Where is the FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER? Oops, wrong channel.
As always, thanks Clive.
I was expecting a full bridge rectifier.
Wouldn't a single diode providing half rectified DC result in a horrible LED flicker? (I know it's not for illumination, but still...trying to learn.)
@@howardroark3052 In a light it would be very flickery.
How are you getting all Indian stuff, even I use all out in India lol
I'm buying it from India via eBay.
bigclivedotcom LoL
Cool
Thanks for replying man
Are you on India ebay safari?
To be honest, I never knew Raid was rebranded to "All Out" in India.
Hahaaha u must know it . It was indian brand but in 2000 sold to SC jons
Hey, I thought it would be amusing to have a torch that had a baton fitting (or e27) on the top to run a modern 6watt+ light bulb meant for the house. Could a simple circuit allow this, without having to go full inverter? Then also mount said torch to a bike :)
you can get e27 low voltage led lamp versions intended for ship and mobile home usage.
Only problem is the bang and puff it makes if you plug it into 230V AC.
- BigClive has a video about those...