"This is not a interview, this is propaganda".... Nailed it. They know that in today's climate he has to speak to the courts of public opinion to taint a future jury incase it goes to trial.
Nate get's it bang on target so many times. He's correct once again. He even recognized when the Intervening Cause was negated and wrecked Baldwin's defense.
Alec: "I'm very excited, she's wonderful." Also Alec: "I knew nothing about her until Joel told me he got her. She was fantastic." Does he even listen to the words that are coming out of his mouth?
In case anyone is wondering if Alec Baldwin was right about a billion bullets being fired on set in the last 70 years it would means almost 40,000 bullets went off every day for 70 years straight.
Long before Alec Baldwin was born, the gun safety rules were: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot. It may not have been Baldwin's JOB to check the gun, but it was his RESPONSIBILITY to check the gun. Alec was merely the LAST person in the chain to make sure that the gun was NOT loaded!!! Alec Baldwin did NOT check the gun to see if it was loaded and he pointed the gun at someone....... GUILTY!
@@SecularReasons Given the evidence and Baldwin's own words, he's either guilty of a negligent discharge, AKA involuntary manslaughter or MURDER! Take your pick. GUILTY! Either way he should be behind bars.
@@SecularReasons An accident is when an out of control semi-truck crashes through your wall, hits your elbow, the gun goes flying across the room, then the trigger catches on a coat hook on the wall, and the gun discharges and shoots somebody. What Baldwin did is negligent discharge if he did NOT intend to fire the gun, or murder if he intended to fire the gun.
I think no one disagrees with you. But is he criminally negligent as in time served in a cage? That's for a trial if charged and I think there's enough reasonable doubt to dismiss criminality. Civilly, the guy is screwed.
When Nate asks, "Is that what's expected"? When talking about actors checking the fires they hold for rounds.... As a firearm owner, I would say....Yes. That's what's expected of every single person who holds a firearm. I don't understand what makes actors so special?
@@miinyoo Here’s a great analysis by another attorney, specializing in use of force cases, Andrew Branca. Seems like Baldwin should face criminal charges, at least on legal merits. czcams.com/video/Gb9nb5qvHTo/video.html
@@MaxIsStrange1 I know Branca but I haven't seen Branca's take. Thanks for the link. After watching his initial TLDR version, I still stick with put a Jury on it if there's any question of criminality. I don't support throwing anyone in prison without a trial. Edit again, sorry. I watched Branca's analysis and it's entirely up to Santa Fe to decide to bring charges of criminality. But that's not where this road ends. In civil court where the bar of guilt is much much lower, Baldwin's ass will be dragged roped and tied behind the proverbial horse. No question about that and it's only, ONLY because he didn't check the firearm himself as one should do no matter the circumstances.
I think the big issue that seems to be glossed over is that this was a tech rehearsal. That's why the armorer wasn't there, no gun was supposed to be used! It's crazy that everyone acts like this was a filmed scene, when it wasn't! It makes it even worse, they're not even running the scene, they're figuring out where to put the lights and where the camera should be!
Exactly and him making it her fault by saying she was setting up the shot AFTER he said she was reviewing the camera ON A MONITOR lol there was no reason she had to be standing there to review a director’s monitor. It was sloppy on all their parts and goes to the general recklessness on that set.
Let's see big time actor like him and they couldn't have a stand in to hold the gun maybe some one with the smallest amount of gun safety knowledge. Oh no them guys quit the day before
Involuntary manslaughter is definitely possible. Considering how biased the DA is he probably won't face any charges even though his negligence in NOT following safety protocol...he's definitely partly responsible maybe others as well.
Will be even harder getting 12 to say he is guilty.. The guy who gave him the gun and declared it cold, without checking, when it was his job to check, will go to jail..
“We both assumed the gun was empty” how did they have this in profound agreement? After the shooting? He’s talking in past tense. Is that because they agreed no ammo on the set? Profound in what way? (Part one of 1st or second clip) This whole interview is passing blame which makes him look like there is a reason he needs to shift blame. Tragic in every way.
"I learned when I first got trained with guns that you never dry fire because it could damage the firing pin over time." - Alec Baldwin Was there anything else you learned in your firearms training? - Snuffaluffagus "Can't think of any other pertinent things I was taught, no." Alec Baldwin, probably.
It's ironic. For years, Alec's been attacking the press for twisting the truth around and misleading the public by reporting false information - all for the greater good of serving themselves. That's pretty much what he's doing now with this interview.
Nate's comment about "oh well if the policy on the set was that they hand you the gun, tell you it's cold and you don't check it yourself, that kind of resolves them of liability for not checking it" doesn't hold water when THE WEEK BEFORE THERE WAS A NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE OF A LIVE ROUND UNDER EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. Even if they had such a policy, it clearly wasn't adequate for safety, and they should've changed it after the first negligent firearms discharge (I refuse to call it "accidental;" any firearms discharge is negligent if it's not intended). Alec Baldwin as a key producer/director should've been involved in fixing the lax safety policies that allowed the first negligent discharge so that the second never occurs.
A hot gun includes a gun with a blank. He likely thought it was a blank when he shouted about being handed a hot gun. And most of the crew likely thought this was an incident similar to the one on the set of the Crow with Brandon Lee. The idea that there was an actual live round in a gun on a movie set is mind boggling.
Baldwin uses words like Spark, Flint, Shot, Shots, Shooting describing her and her job yet they are also subliminal words describing shooting of a gun. 🤔
What I love about these panels is that they dissect the facts of a case to get to the heart of the matter. That's why so many people were interested in Rekieta's streams, because when you have so many intelligent lawyers together there's plenty of room for amusement.
I’ve been around guns my whole life. I don’t feel confident in my knowledge of chambering and firing different types of guns. The ONE THING I’ve always been taught is to treat every gun as if it was loaded and NEVER point your gun at an unintended target. The gun is pointed down until you’re ready to aim. I’ve been handed guns at many times, I’ve always been shown that the gun chamber, clip, etc was empty… or that it is loaded, one in the chamber or none in the chamber and you need to load (cock) the chamber. I don’t understand how someone points a gun without being explicitly shown that it’s empty.
this is such an engrained thing in responsible gun owners that they can go to a construction site and pick out the gun owners solely by how they carry powertools. it's instinctual.
@@2steps1ceps38 I wouldn’t know much about a construction site, but I believe it! In my experience, people who have been around dangerous objects respect them.
@@jamieparrish5143 so, a lot of construction tools have the same type of pistol grip and trigger that a pistol has, from drills to saws to spotlights. gun owners will hold their trigger finger straight out until they intend to use it, non gun owners will hold their finger on the trigger, just not depressing it. the difference is a HUGE detail, because if you flinch, you trip/slip/fall, anything outside your control can cause you to depress the trigger, power tools are significantly less dangerous than firearms though so you can tell who has experience with firearms and who doesn't by their trigger finger. it's not conscious, it's like you said: respect for dangerous objects
If the hammer is not fully cocked, the chambered round would not be rotated fully in the cylinder to make it able to be fired. Also, if u shoot someone with .45cal, you 1000% KNOW you shot them. C'mon Alec, this is beyond the suspension of disbelief.
Regarding trauma effecting the recollection of the timing after the shots: NO reason NOW why he should not be able to parse the timeline regarding when he knew. He COULD say it SEEMED like hours but now realize it was ( "x") amount of time. These issues happen when you make. stuff. up.
This was a practice/rehearsal for a scene where no gun is fired. Why was he handed a real gun at all? They have non-functional replicas just for this purpose, most gun scenes are shot with fake/rubber guns, even the scenes with gun shots have muzzle flash/gunfire sounds added in post.
The main issue I have is how irresponsible Baldwin is. If I was handed a gun and through my actions shot and killed someone, I would forever blame myself regardless of who told me what. Law aside, he shot someone. Safety procedures have always been the minimum, he should have checked the gun.
Alec’s excuse that the word “armorer” was new to him is bs. He goes on to say that he knows it as a “prop guy or woman,” which is exactly what Hannah Gutierrez’s other job was...prop master.
I’m not a lawyer, but I would know better than do an interview. However, his narcissism forced him to try and save face publicly, forgetting he may yet be charged with a crime.
Question. If the jury pool is from an anti gun area, couldn't that work against Baldwin too? If the jury views that guns are dangerous and evil, could they get more upset that Baldwin didn't check then the average person?
heres 2 questions...1.if in that scene they were shooting gun wasnt meant to be fired (although supposedly it fired itself) then why was there ANY bullets in gun (blanks or real) as no need to be. 2.he says he never checks gun in any movies and never has?...isnt there a standard movie union safety process to deal with gun handling?...so he never followed safety gun protocol in any movies?
They weren't shooting a scene, they were rehearsing. So, yes, the firearm should have been empty. Not even loaded with blanks. If he "never checks", that just means he's always irresponsible. This time his irresponsibility cost someone their life. That's criminal negligence.
That guy is a terrible individual, how can someone be so reckless with the lives of other people? for example, if someone for whatever reason carries a knife, this person must be careful with the wellbeing of the other people around, let's not say guns. Adults can't behave like children, we must be responsible individuals.
From what I've understood from discussions on on-set gun safety, the minimum general rule is there's supposed to always be at least two people checking any gun. The armorer is first, then they hand it to someone else to check it again. Whether that second person is the actor, or in this case it would have been the AD, it's still not supposed to be just one person. The AD is the real piece of shit in this situation. His statement that it was never his job to check the gun. Well then, buddy, you never had any business touching it. He also seems to be the only one saying the armorer was even present on that set at that time.
It was a tech rehearsal. They were figuring out the blocking, where the lights were going to be and where the cameras were and how they were moving. There was no reason to even cock it.
I think they were doing inset shots, at least rehearsing them. It is possible the camera was close enough they would have wanted dummy rounds in it so it looked loaded. Dummy rounds look like real rounds but do not have gun powder or good primers. On the Hanley channel they mentioned it is common to fill with BB’s to make sound. So it can quickly be verified they are dummies.
Whether or not the gun could fire when dropping the hammer, or whether or not he had the finger on the trigger are moot points. "Don't point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy", "Treat all gun as if they're loaded" and simply checking the gun someone hands you are some of the most basic rules of firearm safety. Even I, who live in a country with no easy access to firearm and who has never held one before, know about those basic rules. Halyna was using a movable monitor when she was framing the shot, Baldwin could easily have asked her to move away from the line of fire and none of this would have happened. He was being reckless, period.
Lets all remember Binger committed 12 separate cases of assault by flagging every member of the jury with a firearm, loaded or not. And this kind of Gun firing and going off with live ammo happened 3 separate times during filming.
A couple corrections. A "hot" gun is any gun with a powdered round. it doesn't mean it has a projectile. It means there is a charged round inside. A "cold" gun is one with dummy rounds (not to be confused with blanks, which is another small correction to your conversation). So he could still say "why did someone give me a hot gun" even if he didn't think he had fired an actual projectile. Likewise, they will use dummy rounds which are "cold" so that the gun appears to have rounds in it for filming, even though they are entirely unfireable.
My grandson said Alec is lying about half cocking the gun. He said with that gun unless it's malfunctioned that gun clicks as you pull the hammer back. You have to pull the hammer all the way back to fire it.
Excellent video. One thing I'd like to ask Nate. Assuming you're an actor on a movie, someone hands you a gun before your scene and they claim the gun is safe. In the following scene you're about to film you have to place the gun to your head and pull the trigger. Would you check that the weapon is safe yourself, or trust what you're being told? I would argue that whether you're aiming at yourself, or at others, that ultimately it's your responsibility to check it before doing anything irrespective of what you're been told by others.
This is so simple going forward. On every movie with a gun, every person that goes on the movie set from actors who may never touch the gun to catering should have a gun safety license. The license should either be per movie or yearly. Even the extra/ background actors, part time crew and visitors on set must be licensed. Charge $10-20 max for the course and I’m sure an NRA instructor would happily do it and would be completely worth it too. This would also educate a lot of people. So when they complain about guns at the Oscars, getting an Emmy or just speaking to reporters they’ll know what they’re talking about. They’ll know not to say “ assault riffle “ for AR. They’ll know, if told, that the majority of deaths are from handguns not riffles etc.
Love that you brought your brother on! My brother just finished Ranger School earlier this year. RLTW! Also love these lawyers react! So informative and entertaining!
The morning that the news broke my first thought was , As much as I don’t like him, I feel for him if this was an accident out of his control. Now that he has done this interview I feel he is trying to get in front of this in regards to public opinion. It was hard for me to believe his emotion wasn’t acting since he’s a seasoned actor. I hope the trial is publicized so we can review all of the evidence to know the truth.
He refers to his wife as "Hillaria", yet her Boston born name is "Hillary". Prime example of stealing culture or trying to hide behind it. "My wife is fake Spanish, so I'm a caring person." Perhaps his wife has indeed legally changed her name so I may be wrong.
That's not how they actually spelled it, right? Because that makes no sense. The real name is spelled Hilaria; the double 'L' in Spanish makes the English 'Y' sound. Either way, still embarrassing to lie about one's ethnicity. But not nearly as embarrassing as lying about killing someone and playing the blame game over it.
@@AnimaVox_ check out the lies spilled out of Pocahontas's mouth so she could get free college or some crap like that! Elizabeth Warren is her real name, she was bilking the system before the race card was fashionable...lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
From the SAG Safety Bulletins: Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself.
I'm sorry but this "Nate the Lawyer" guy is wrong. Am very surprised that apparently he spent time in law enforcement. As someone who served years in the Marine Corps, then years in the Army, then years as a city police officer (patrol and then Detective), I do not understand where Nate is getting the idea that there is somehow an "actor's exception" to the law, involving murder or manslaughter. He is literally arguing (at around 23 minutes in) that actors cannot be guilty of ANY crime involving negligent discharge of firearms on sets because there's an "armorer" who has "customarily" handed him an unloaded firearm. What rubbish! I can tell you that even if my Lt (supervisor), even my Chief of Police or even the Mayor or President of the US handed me a weapon (while I was a police officer), promising me that it's not loaded, and then I pointed it at someone and caused their death with it, I'd be quickly suspended, fired, charged, arrested, and shortly convicted of some sort of manslaughter/negligent homicide. At least here in the Commonwealth of Virginia. And if I were investigating a case of someone who did exactly this, I don't care if it was an actor or a homeless person ("Jimmy Bob has ALWAYS handed me an unloaded weapon, so I went ahead and pointed it at someone and 'let go of the hammer'!"), I'd be putting them in cuffs and promptly filling out an affidavit for the warrant for his arrest, which ANY reasonable judge here would sign off on. What planet does he live on that he's lost touch with that reality. That people, especially those with legal and law enforcement experience, actually believe there is an "actor's exception to the law", is frightening. The law, at least in my state, does NOT read "Anyone who negligently causes the death of another with a firearm is guilty of manslaughter/negligent homicide/whatever.... unless his name is Alec Baldwin and he has an army of 'armorers' and other 'experts' who have ASSURED him customarily that the firearm was not loaded." I think Nate is confusing civil liability with criminal liability.
Blanks typically have the end crimped, Dummies would have a minimum of a spent primer (possibly missing powder as well), and live rounds have a bullet, powder and unspent primer.
I did a stage production of "Don't Drink The Water" with a welded-shut track gun firing gas caps...and I still treated it with absolute respect. I had to aim it 'near' the arm of a co-star storywise, and our goal was to get away with an angle aiming to the side for this very reason.
Alec Baldwin is full of crap. He was in Mission Impossible - Fallout and Rogue Nation. He was in scenes where there were guns in them as well as being fired. The master armorer of both those movies is Simon Atherton.
Doesn't matter if she was instructing him to point the gun at her. That is still reckless and negligent. Look at the Monalisa Perez case. Sure in this case she did pull the trigger but she was instructed by her boyfriend to do so... Alec Baldwin is guilty and trying to put the blame on everyone else (including the victim). Despicable.
John Schneider says exactly the same exact thing!!! He did a full video on it, and he was on Hazzard for years!!!! He said he used to do this even in the 70’s. He always checked the gun EVERY time. If Baldwin didn’t want to check the firearm he should have known to bring Hannah back to the set before each use. He knows better!!!!!!!! Halls should have called her on walkie to set. IATSE is also a union who has specific protocols. The fact all of the other misfires were ignored is HUGE. The attitude he had about Clooney was ridiculous. He is the one who is always talking crap about guns in media. He is soo hypocritical. I think he is going on the “I never pulled the trigger” after his lawyer told him to say that when the lawyer saw the “in” with there being other “accidental discharges” in writing.
So, it was either the behaviour panel, or on Eric's America's untold stories, that someone suggested peppermint oil on his hand, that helped tear up so quickly.. I'm not sure what I think about that... You?
At 7:00 minute mark, right before you stopped vid to talk, he admits they spent an hour and half firing the gun…presumably with live rounds - so he knew live ammo was present….also, He shows a clip where he is on set talking about his beard….tells me there may be video (documentary type footage) of everything that happened. So he knows charges are coming and this is damage control
We are all missing a lot of evidence, however with the evidence we see and his (probably bad idea interview) there is enough to at least start a negligent homicide criminal case.
It was cut out of this 3 part set but Baldwin was asked if he felt guilt. He said “No no, I feel that there is, that that that someone is responsible for what happened. I can’t say who that is but I know it’s not me.”
New Mexico has a lower standard of proof of negligence with deadly weapons, meaning there is be a higher standard of care by “the man on the bus” when a firearm is being used.
This is why at least everyone who handles the gun in the set should know the basics of the firearm. They should know how the gun discharge which is a firing pin hit the primer. In this case, he said he pulled the hammer back but not all the way and let go, that is how the gun goes off. Since this decock part is not involved with the scene, he should gently drop the hammer slowly and point in the safe direction before doing so. And he said it himself that blank doesn't have that much recoil compared to the live round so he should recognize that something wrong with this discharge happened.
He knows the rules of gun safety, he has been handling guns for 20+ years. He has had tons of firearms training and so many Hollywood people have come out and said this doesn't make sense, it shouldn't have happened. Couple that with the people leaving the job due to safety issues and Ellen levels of treatment, it sounds like Baldwin was a P. Ø. S. from the start.
He claimed he didn't know the gun even fired...anyone who's ever fired a gun knows that's complete BS. The recoil and loud bang would definitely give it away. He's not even a good lier. Then claiming he never pulled the trigger when that kind of gun wouldn't fire without pulling the trigger because it has a half cock stop.
@@farmerchick3040 I believe that revolver was chambered in some thing like. 45 long colt which you are definitely going to feel and hear. The only thing I could think of maybe, maaaybee that you might not tell if it was a blank or real cartridge would be 17 or 22, however he claimed he didn't feel it or even know basically saying it didn't fire which is horse S. I can't wait for one of the lying experts to do his interviews.
Let's not downplay Baldwin's role as a producer. No matter how much he actually worked on the monetary side, I don't think there can be any doubt that he had the complete power to order or veto anything on this production. If Baldwin had said:"I'm not working without the armorer on set and proper gun safety protocols." then that would have been it. There is no person on this production who would have told him that's too expensive or takes too long and ordered him to shut up and just be an actor.
I’m sorry, but all gun owners know that even if we see someone rack the slide and can see there is no bullet in the chamber, you are still required to personally check it yourself. If production staff want to use real guns, then everyone on set should be trained to check the guns each and every time you pick it up or take it from someone else.
when the 911 call mentions the term "accidental" 3 times,, you just know there is something on...they are beginning to tell the story to the 911 when they should be concerned with the victims and life support
Well if they don't indicate it's accidental than you have police showing up looking for a murderer & DEFINITLEY delaying medical aid to the victims literally without a doubt because they cannot get emt until police clear the scene if it's not am accident, they have to make it clear there is no criminal to apprehend & no ongoing threat
@@ar4203 I am a paramedic (25+ years) and you are wrong about the delay in treatment. In fact, they had a medical provider on the set who began care before the arrival of any 911 response.
@@tygerburning753 you're a paramedic not a police officer but you should stilll be, & presumably are, well aware that police CANNOT ALLOW EMTS&FIRE ONTO A SCENE BEFORE ITS CLEARED- *UNLESS* OF COURSE ITS AN *ACCIDENT* or similar reason that would inherently be safe for ambulance to enter into, IF THERES AN ACTIVE SHOOTER OR POTENTIAL MURDERER THAN THAT DELAYS TREATMENT 1000%. Maybe you misunderstood my comment I don't know what you think I suggested would delay treatment but i was repsonding to the original comment saying the 911 caller is suspicious by saying upfront that its an accident while I'm just saying that if they don't indicate that than the police have to make sure there is no threat to emt/fire before they can help any victims that is a fact, I'm not saying there were not any on set medical personal on set but the ambulance would've not been able to enter had this been like an intentional shooting until the police had the person in custody or deemed the scene as safe for ambulance/emt personal to enter
@@ar4203 actually, no. I'm also a law enforcement officer. Both sets of training put the life of the injured before investigative processes. EMS personnel are trained to preserve evidence as much as possible without compromising care, bit care of the injured comes first. You don't let someone die to preserve a crime scene. That's just basic.
@@ar4203 you se to think that taking control of the scene is a lot more of a long, drawn out process than it is in any but the most unusual circumstances. Also, even in active shooter scenes, specially trained EMS personnel are allowed into the less dangerous parts of the scene to retrieve patients. We train for this.
It's not correct that dry-firing damages a firearm, except for rimfire cartridges. The firearm used here was chambered in .45 Long Colt which is a center-fire cartridge.
That's a distinction that I just recently learned myself, and I've been carrying firearms most of my life. Had always been taught not to dry-fire, but I guess I've been wrong for years. It seems to be a commonly-held belief.
I think if they have the older style of firing pin attached directly to the hammer they may behave a bit more like rimfire guns. A bit, not totally if I am understanding what I was told right.
I absolutely agree. I have shot over a million bullets. Where I did triple or quadruple the amount of dry firing. I have had very few firing pins go bad. - Marine Force Recon and Sniper for 21 years.
Yeah, when I was in the Army for Infantry training, we dry fired for days, maybe even a week or two before we did a single live fire. We had a small bar/pin we'd stick inside the muzzle and we'd rest a dime on top of it. You had to squeeze the trigger over and over dry firing without making the dime fall.
Whether you have an armorer or a prop department handle the guns depends on the state you are filming in. It can be either. Some states require an armorer, others don't. New Mexico requires one to be on set. As for there being documentation for proper gun safety, yes there is one. The union has written guidlines and policies for exactly how to handle weapons on a movie set. And they are supposed to be attached to the script if there is a gun being used that day. They just didn't follow those policies.
Three seconds. That's how long it takes to check a revolver cylinder for rounds. That's all he had to do. A little boy lost his mother, because he couldn't be bothered to double check.
Depends on the type of revolver. But that is only part of the reason. Everyone that gun passed through didn't check. They all bear some blame, because someone else could have been killed anywhere along the way.
@@Oblithian I'm not saying other people aren't responsible, also....but that doesn't remove responsibility from the person holding the firearm when it went off. Movie sets aren't some magical place where gun laws don't exist. There isn't an actor exemption. If someone is out hunting or at the gun range and they accidentally shoot someone, are they not responsible if the person who handed them the firearm told them it wasn't loaded?
"forty five minutes", then "sixty seconds"? Did she faint, or heart attack? Other guy was loud and hit the ground? Yeah, likely some lying after the event maybe, but what happens AFTER the gun goes off is not likely to be a source of culpability for firing the gun.
Thanks for providing the single most informative take on the interview I could find on CZcams. For me, it's his actor's phrasing and stereotypically theatric dramatic pauses that makes this a performance.
I have a few of these firearms I have spent an hour to attempt to fire a round as mentioned .only way would be the firearm malfunctioned without the trigger being pulled intentionally. He also would have a sore hand if it fired without being ready for it .45 colt is a serious round ,it went through 2 people.....
When Baldwin talks about the gun being empty he says "I was told I was handed an EMPTY GUN", then there's a jump cut to apparently a different take in mid-sentence when he says "if there was COSMETIC ROUNDS...". To me this sounds like he caught himself realizing that with a revolver it's pretty obvious if it is empty, so he corrected himself and talked about cosmetic rounds to give himself an execuse for not noticing something so obvious. But if indeed he was told the gun was EMPTY, as in nothing in it, not even fake/cosmetic rounds, then I think he can not escape negligence because a quick visual check if there's actually nothing in there takes like 1 second and no specialized knowledge to tell apart blanks, fake or live rounds. If I was the prosecutor I would have an expert show the jury how quick and easy it is to check if a revolver is empty and I think the jury would not accept any excuse for not doing this simple check.
Hes a liar. Claims it was empty but clearly it wasn't and the armor not on set means no one should have had access to the guns. He failed to follow procedure. Maybe others as well but Alec is definitely negligent.
2:45:00 Nate you made the WRONG point. Alec JUST admitted it's ONE person that is responsible, but 5 min earlier he said it could be several people and George called him out on it whenhe said 99% of the time. So NOW Alec admits it is supposed t be ONE person, but during the shoot SOMEONE ELSE handled the weapon. The fact that he KNEW this makes him culpable.
The problem is he never cocked the hammer which would have set the trigger mechanism as the release. What he did, as he said, was he pulled the trigger all the way back without cocking it and then he let it go. He fired the gun without the need for a trigger pull.
Totally agree with Nate, This is PROPAGANDA! The Background music …….. The talk of his experience and being different types of a producer… his part was casting & The storyline… These people are sickening! A woman died, and all he had to do is simply CHECK the GUN. 2-3 seconds of his “ precious” time! Also: There is no way there wasn’t any kind of kickback from that bullet being fired. IF ANYONE at all knew that there was a possible live round fired, It was Alec! He went into great detail of how he had to use “ acting” to create a fake kickback from a non- firing gun.
If there is anything good that could come of this it might be that some people would finally get the message to: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot
2:40:00 the AD is NOT the armorer and isn't the gun expert or the weapons handler so Alec should NOT have relied on him for anything. That's like having the sound guy take over and hand you the weapons on set. PS, I have never been on a set where the armorer didn't deal with the weapons 100% of the time. This was CARELESS procedures at minimum.
The shooting happened over a month ago. Alec is a narcissist so of course he’s going to get into other things like his “ feeling” on everything. I’m sure he was broken up, but mainly about his involvement and the consequences to “ him” about what happened.
The term that @Uncivil Law was referring to was: The Man on the Clapham omnibus It came into usage in English Law when a judgment by Sir Richard Henn Collins (Master of the Rolls) in the 1903 English Court of Appeal libel case, McQuire v. Western Morning News. He attributed it to Lord Bowen, said to have coined it as junior counsel defending the Tichborne Claimant case in 1871. It may be derived from the phrase "Public opinion ... is the opinion of the bald-headed man at the back of the omnibus" A description by the 19th-century journalist Walter Bagehot of a normal London man. Clapham, in South London, was at the time a nondescript commuter suburb seen to represent "ordinary" London, and in the 19th century would have been served by horse-drawn omnibuses. Omnibus is the term from which "bus" derives, and was still in common use by the judiciary at the beginning of the 20th century. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus
"This is not a interview, this is propaganda".... Nailed it. They know that in today's climate he has to speak to the courts of public opinion to taint a future jury incase it goes to trial.
Down to the soundtrack. It’s actually from a movie...can’t remember the name at the moment.
"You're goddamn right!"
Don't forget, he is a professional actor.
Nate get's it bang on target so many times.
He's correct once again. He even recognized when the Intervening Cause was negated and wrecked Baldwin's defense.
Alec: "I'm very excited, she's wonderful."
Also Alec: "I knew nothing about her until Joel told me he got her. She was fantastic."
Does he even listen to the words that are coming out of his mouth?
In case anyone is wondering if Alec Baldwin was right about a billion bullets being fired on set in the last 70 years it would means almost 40,000 bullets went off every day for 70 years straight.
Isn't that special the odds of actually being shot are greater then the Hollywood gunslinger cited!
Hahaha.. This is why the internet is great. No bullshit allowed.
You forgot to think of Bollywood.
Yes I'm joking.
Congrats to Andy for completing Ranger school. That’s not an easy school to get through. Much respect.
You know, maybe its the costume, but I thought he said Reindeer school.
If a female can do it....not that tough. Not one female has made it thru Marine Infantry Officer's Course.
Ranger school? Do you have to buy your own mask?
@@MykeruMedia No, they’ll issue you one. You have to find your own sidekick, though.
@@randysretired2020 Also a good idea to issue a Trigger warning. You know, for people who might be afraid of Roy Roger's horse.
Long before Alec Baldwin was born, the gun safety rules were: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot. It may not have been Baldwin's JOB to check the gun, but it was his RESPONSIBILITY to check the gun. Alec was merely the LAST person in the chain to make sure that the gun was NOT loaded!!! Alec Baldwin did NOT check the gun to see if it was loaded and he pointed the gun at someone....... GUILTY!
"Guilty" doesn't really mean anything. Guilty of being stupid and murder are entirely different things
@@SecularReasons being stupid isn't illegal. Killing someone because you were stupid on the other hand...
@@SecularReasons Given the evidence and Baldwin's own words, he's either guilty of a negligent discharge, AKA involuntary manslaughter or MURDER! Take your pick. GUILTY! Either way he should be behind bars.
@Pierce Thirlen lol. Guilty of an accident is guilty of an accident.
@@SecularReasons An accident is when an out of control semi-truck crashes through your wall, hits your elbow, the gun goes flying across the room, then the trigger catches on a coat hook on the wall, and the gun discharges and shoots somebody. What Baldwin did is negligent discharge if he did NOT intend to fire the gun, or murder if he intended to fire the gun.
I’m an actor who’s been a professional fight director for the stage. Alec Baldwin was negligent.
I think no one disagrees with you. But is he criminally negligent as in time served in a cage? That's for a trial if charged and I think there's enough reasonable doubt to dismiss criminality. Civilly, the guy is screwed.
When Nate asks, "Is that what's expected"? When talking about actors checking the fires they hold for rounds....
As a firearm owner, I would say....Yes. That's what's expected of every single person who holds a firearm. I don't understand what makes actors so special?
@@miinyoo Here’s a great analysis by another attorney, specializing in use of force cases, Andrew Branca. Seems like Baldwin should face criminal charges, at least on legal merits.
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@@MaxIsStrange1 I know Branca but I haven't seen Branca's take. Thanks for the link. After watching his initial TLDR version, I still stick with put a Jury on it if there's any question of criminality. I don't support throwing anyone in prison without a trial. Edit again, sorry. I watched Branca's analysis and it's entirely up to Santa Fe to decide to bring charges of criminality. But that's not where this road ends. In civil court where the bar of guilt is much much lower, Baldwin's ass will be dragged roped and tied behind the proverbial horse. No question about that and it's only, ONLY because he didn't check the firearm himself as one should do no matter the circumstances.
@@miinyoo I think you’re correct on that one
I think the big issue that seems to be glossed over is that this was a tech rehearsal. That's why the armorer wasn't there, no gun was supposed to be used! It's crazy that everyone acts like this was a filmed scene, when it wasn't! It makes it even worse, they're not even running the scene, they're figuring out where to put the lights and where the camera should be!
Exactly and him making it her fault by saying she was setting up the shot AFTER he said she was reviewing the camera ON A MONITOR lol there was no reason she had to be standing there to review a director’s monitor. It was sloppy on all their parts and goes to the general recklessness on that set.
Let's see big time actor like him and they couldn't have a stand in to hold the gun maybe some one with the smallest amount of gun safety knowledge. Oh no them guys quit the day before
the recoil of a blank vs live round is unmistakable but he didn't know for 45 minutes
The fact that Alec publicly stated in this interview that he was told by police that he probably won’t face charges is pure stupidity
Involuntary manslaughter is definitely possible. Considering how biased the DA is he probably won't face any charges even though his negligence in NOT following safety protocol...he's definitely partly responsible maybe others as well.
He CROSSED STATE LINES !!!!!!!!
This is happening in AZ assuming he is charged. Youre gonna have a hard time getting 12 people to say he has no responsibility to not check the gun.
That’s if they even bring charges against him. After an investigation they might not bring charges against Alec.
We will see.
Will be even harder getting 12 to say he is guilty..
The guy who gave him the gun and declared it cold, without checking, when it was his job to check, will go to jail..
“We both assumed the gun was empty” how did they have this in profound agreement? After the shooting? He’s talking in past tense. Is that because they agreed no ammo on the set? Profound in what way? (Part one of 1st or second clip) This whole interview is passing blame which makes him look like there is a reason he needs to shift blame. Tragic in every way.
Wow good point i did not catch that
The guilty one tends to be the one who's most invested in 'figuring out' who deserves the blame. Funny how that works
"Do you feel guilty?"
"No 🤡"
We got another NPC test, boys.
The fact that she instructed him to point it at her heavily implies she thought it was a cold gun...
"I learned when I first got trained with guns that you never dry fire because it could damage the firing pin over time." - Alec Baldwin
Was there anything else you learned in your firearms training? - Snuffaluffagus
"Can't think of any other pertinent things I was taught, no." Alec Baldwin, probably.
the firing pin thing has been a trope since like the 70s, the vast majority of guns can be dry-fried no problemo.
20-40 minutes after shooting a gun +no guilt of what he did that's stupidity and negligence
I was laughing harder at Alita's reaction instead of the costume.
It's ironic. For years, Alec's been attacking the press for twisting the truth around and misleading the public by reporting false information - all for the greater good of serving themselves. That's pretty much what he's doing now with this interview.
Legal Bytes’ brother is quite the Entrée. Num num.
Great episode. Thanks for keeping me company all weekend!
Damn girl you skipped straight over thirsty to all out hungry...
Yea, the only thing missing was Alex swiping his hand over his face and saying “and scene”
"This was definitely someone's fault... but it definitely wasn't mine 🤡"
Nate's comment about "oh well if the policy on the set was that they hand you the gun, tell you it's cold and you don't check it yourself, that kind of resolves them of liability for not checking it" doesn't hold water when THE WEEK BEFORE THERE WAS A NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE OF A LIVE ROUND UNDER EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES.
Even if they had such a policy, it clearly wasn't adequate for safety, and they should've changed it after the first negligent firearms discharge (I refuse to call it "accidental;" any firearms discharge is negligent if it's not intended). Alec Baldwin as a key producer/director should've been involved in fixing the lax safety policies that allowed the first negligent discharge so that the second never occurs.
A hot gun includes a gun with a blank. He likely thought it was a blank when he shouted about being handed a hot gun. And most of the crew likely thought this was an incident similar to the one on the set of the Crow with Brandon Lee. The idea that there was an actual live round in a gun on a movie set is mind boggling.
When I cry there are usually tears rolling down my cheeks.
Yes , and my nose stops
If I’ve cried a lot than no tears come, but my sinuses will be bothered and my nose will always run.
Baldwin uses words like Spark, Flint, Shot, Shots, Shooting describing her and her job yet they are also subliminal words describing shooting of a gun. 🤔
What I love about these panels is that they dissect the facts of a case to get to the heart of the matter. That's why so many people were interested in Rekieta's streams, because when you have so many intelligent lawyers together there's plenty of room for amusement.
I’ve been around guns my whole life. I don’t feel confident in my knowledge of chambering and firing different types of guns. The ONE THING I’ve always been taught is to treat every gun as if it was loaded and NEVER point your gun at an unintended target. The gun is pointed down until you’re ready to aim. I’ve been handed guns at many times, I’ve always been shown that the gun chamber, clip, etc was empty… or that it is loaded, one in the chamber or none in the chamber and you need to load (cock) the chamber.
I don’t understand how someone points a gun without being explicitly shown that it’s empty.
this is such an engrained thing in responsible gun owners that they can go to a construction site and pick out the gun owners solely by how they carry powertools. it's instinctual.
@@2steps1ceps38 I wouldn’t know much about a construction site, but I believe it! In my experience, people who have been around dangerous objects respect them.
@@jamieparrish5143 so, a lot of construction tools have the same type of pistol grip and trigger that a pistol has, from drills to saws to spotlights. gun owners will hold their trigger finger straight out until they intend to use it, non gun owners will hold their finger on the trigger, just not depressing it. the difference is a HUGE detail, because if you flinch, you trip/slip/fall, anything outside your control can cause you to depress the trigger, power tools are significantly less dangerous than firearms though so you can tell who has experience with firearms and who doesn't by their trigger finger. it's not conscious, it's like you said: respect for dangerous objects
If the hammer is not fully cocked, the chambered round would not be rotated fully in the cylinder to make it able to be fired. Also, if u shoot someone with .45cal, you 1000% KNOW you shot them. C'mon Alec, this is beyond the suspension of disbelief.
Regarding trauma effecting the recollection of the timing after the shots: NO reason NOW why he should not be able to parse the timeline regarding when he knew.
He COULD say it SEEMED like hours but now realize it was ( "x") amount of time. These issues happen when you make. stuff. up.
The world needs more legal elves.
This was a practice/rehearsal for a scene where no gun is fired. Why was he handed a real gun at all? They have non-functional replicas just for this purpose, most gun scenes are shot with fake/rubber guns, even the scenes with gun shots have muzzle flash/gunfire sounds added in post.
The main issue I have is how irresponsible Baldwin is. If I was handed a gun and through my actions shot and killed someone, I would forever blame myself regardless of who told me what. Law aside, he shot someone. Safety procedures have always been the minimum, he should have checked the gun.
Alec’s excuse that the word “armorer” was new to him is bs. He goes on to say that he knows it as a “prop guy or woman,” which is exactly what Hannah Gutierrez’s other job was...prop master.
And she wasn't even on set...so no one should have had the guns. All of them are responsible and it's definitely negligence.
I’m not a lawyer, but I would know better than do an interview. However, his narcissism forced him to try and save face publicly, forgetting he may yet be charged with a crime.
I’m sure Halyna Hutchins and her son had their dreams too 😢😢
Baldwin's revolver had a hammer safety, it physically couldn't fire without the trigger pulled.
And yet the gun was said to have fired unexpectedly 2 or 3 times in other people's hands in the week before this incident.
Question. If the jury pool is from an anti gun area, couldn't that work against Baldwin too? If the jury views that guns are dangerous and evil, could they get more upset that Baldwin didn't check then the average person?
Notice how little he actually answers the question he's asked!
heres 2 questions...1.if in that scene they were shooting gun wasnt meant to be fired (although supposedly it fired itself) then why was there ANY bullets in gun (blanks or real) as no need to be.
2.he says he never checks gun in any movies and never has?...isnt there a standard movie union safety process to deal with gun handling?...so he never followed safety gun protocol in any movies?
They weren't shooting a scene, they were rehearsing. So, yes, the firearm should have been empty. Not even loaded with blanks.
If he "never checks", that just means he's always irresponsible. This time his irresponsibility cost someone their life. That's criminal negligence.
That guy is a terrible individual, how can someone be so reckless with the lives of other people? for example, if someone for whatever reason carries a knife, this person must be careful with the wellbeing of the other people around, let's not say guns. Adults can't behave like children, we must be responsible individuals.
From what I've understood from discussions on on-set gun safety, the minimum general rule is there's supposed to always be at least two people checking any gun. The armorer is first, then they hand it to someone else to check it again. Whether that second person is the actor, or in this case it would have been the AD, it's still not supposed to be just one person.
The AD is the real piece of shit in this situation. His statement that it was never his job to check the gun. Well then, buddy, you never had any business touching it. He also seems to be the only one saying the armorer was even present on that set at that time.
It was a tech rehearsal. They were figuring out the blocking, where the lights were going to be and where the cameras were and how they were moving. There was no reason to even cock it.
I think they were doing inset shots, at least rehearsing them. It is possible the camera was close enough they would have wanted dummy rounds in it so it looked loaded. Dummy rounds look like real rounds but do not have gun powder or good primers. On the Hanley channel they mentioned it is common to fill with BB’s to make sound. So it can quickly be verified they are dummies.
No intervening act between the cocking and firing. Read the New Mexico involuntary manslaughter statute. It is specific and on point
Ruh-roh, Rhaggy.
Whether or not the gun could fire when dropping the hammer, or whether or not he had the finger on the trigger are moot points. "Don't point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy", "Treat all gun as if they're loaded" and simply checking the gun someone hands you are some of the most basic rules of firearm safety. Even I, who live in a country with no easy access to firearm and who has never held one before, know about those basic rules. Halyna was using a movable monitor when she was framing the shot, Baldwin could easily have asked her to move away from the line of fire and none of this would have happened. He was being reckless, period.
Ok you guys are wonderful! Such a great brother. Refreshingly cool.
Alec is a fool. Charges are coming simply because of the public demand at this point… John Q public would already be in handcuffs
Lets all remember Binger committed 12 separate cases of assault by flagging every member of the jury with a firearm, loaded or not.
And this kind of Gun firing and going off with live ammo happened 3 separate times during filming.
Great analysis! I love the content! Keep it up!
A couple corrections. A "hot" gun is any gun with a powdered round. it doesn't mean it has a projectile. It means there is a charged round inside. A "cold" gun is one with dummy rounds (not to be confused with blanks, which is another small correction to your conversation). So he could still say "why did someone give me a hot gun" even if he didn't think he had fired an actual projectile. Likewise, they will use dummy rounds which are "cold" so that the gun appears to have rounds in it for filming, even though they are entirely unfireable.
My grandson said Alec is lying about half cocking the gun. He said with that gun unless it's malfunctioned that gun clicks as you pull the hammer back. You have to pull the hammer all the way back to fire it.
Baldwin is an actor. He doesn't do interviews, he was doing a scripted "interview scene".
Excellent video. One thing I'd like to ask Nate. Assuming you're an actor on a movie, someone hands you a gun before your scene and they claim the gun is safe. In the following scene you're about to film you have to place the gun to your head and pull the trigger. Would you check that the weapon is safe yourself, or trust what you're being told? I would argue that whether you're aiming at yourself, or at others, that ultimately it's your responsibility to check it before doing anything irrespective of what you're been told by others.
Alec Baldwin was not surprising, but I was not expecting Jake Gyllenhaal dressed as an elf.
Alyte, love your take on every panel, calm, and precise and much Prettier than Kurt and Viva!
Hey now, show the proper respect to the beautiful freedom fro! Viva's been working very hard on it!😉
Thanks for all you do, LegalBytes!
This is so simple going forward. On every movie with a gun, every person that goes on the movie set from actors who may never touch the gun to catering should have a gun safety license. The license should either be per movie or yearly. Even the extra/ background actors, part time crew and visitors on set must be licensed.
Charge $10-20 max for the course and I’m sure an NRA instructor would happily do it and would be completely worth it too.
This would also educate a lot of people. So when they complain about guns at the Oscars, getting an Emmy or just speaking to reporters they’ll know what they’re talking about. They’ll know not to say “ assault riffle “ for AR.
They’ll know, if told, that the majority of deaths are from handguns not riffles etc.
Love that you brought your brother on! My brother just finished Ranger School earlier this year. RLTW!
Also love these lawyers react! So informative and entertaining!
This guy is more concerned about protecting his own image than the fact he killed somebody.
The morning that the news broke my first thought was , As much as I don’t like him, I feel for him if this was an accident out of his control. Now that he has done this interview I feel he is trying to get in front of this in regards to public opinion. It was hard for me to believe his emotion wasn’t acting since he’s a seasoned actor. I hope the trial is publicized so we can review all of the evidence to know the truth.
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He refers to his wife as "Hillaria", yet her Boston born name is "Hillary". Prime example of stealing culture or trying to hide behind it. "My wife is fake Spanish, so I'm a caring person." Perhaps his wife has indeed legally changed her name so I may be wrong.
That's not how they actually spelled it, right? Because that makes no sense. The real name is spelled Hilaria; the double 'L' in Spanish makes the English 'Y' sound. Either way, still embarrassing to lie about one's ethnicity. But not nearly as embarrassing as lying about killing someone and playing the blame game over it.
@@AnimaVox_ check out the lies spilled out of Pocahontas's mouth so she could get free college or some crap like that! Elizabeth Warren is her real name, she was bilking the system before the race card was fashionable...lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
From the SAG Safety Bulletins:
Treat all weapons as though they are
loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play
with weapons and never point one at
anyone, including yourself.
Thanks, LegalBytes! I agree with Nate, chain of custody is very important as is protocols on set, SAG protocols, and reasonable care.
Whoever has the weapon takes responsibility, an actors stage should be the same as a military firing range, safety is number one
I'm sorry but this "Nate the Lawyer" guy is wrong. Am very surprised that apparently he spent time in law enforcement. As someone who served years in the Marine Corps, then years in the Army, then years as a city police officer (patrol and then Detective), I do not understand where Nate is getting the idea that there is somehow an "actor's exception" to the law, involving murder or manslaughter. He is literally arguing (at around 23 minutes in) that actors cannot be guilty of ANY crime involving negligent discharge of firearms on sets because there's an "armorer" who has "customarily" handed him an unloaded firearm. What rubbish! I can tell you that even if my Lt (supervisor), even my Chief of Police or even the Mayor or President of the US handed me a weapon (while I was a police officer), promising me that it's not loaded, and then I pointed it at someone and caused their death with it, I'd be quickly suspended, fired, charged, arrested, and shortly convicted of some sort of manslaughter/negligent homicide. At least here in the Commonwealth of Virginia. And if I were investigating a case of someone who did exactly this, I don't care if it was an actor or a homeless person ("Jimmy Bob has ALWAYS handed me an unloaded weapon, so I went ahead and pointed it at someone and 'let go of the hammer'!"), I'd be putting them in cuffs and promptly filling out an affidavit for the warrant for his arrest, which ANY reasonable judge here would sign off on. What planet does he live on that he's lost touch with that reality. That people, especially those with legal and law enforcement experience, actually believe there is an "actor's exception to the law", is frightening.
The law, at least in my state, does NOT read "Anyone who negligently causes the death of another with a firearm is guilty of manslaughter/negligent homicide/whatever.... unless his name is Alec Baldwin and he has an army of 'armorers' and other 'experts' who have ASSURED him customarily that the firearm was not loaded." I think Nate is confusing civil liability with criminal liability.
Also the armor wasn't on set...and didn't hand Alec the gun so negligence right there.
Every time I've looked at different guns the sales person always checked and showed me that gun wasn't loaded. These were NEW guns
Blanks typically have the end crimped, Dummies would have a minimum of a spent primer (possibly missing powder as well), and live rounds have a bullet, powder and unspent primer.
I did a stage production of "Don't Drink The Water" with a welded-shut track gun firing gas caps...and I still treated it with absolute respect. I had to aim it 'near' the arm of a co-star storywise, and our goal was to get away with an angle aiming to the side for this very reason.
Alec Baldwin is full of crap. He was in Mission Impossible - Fallout and Rogue Nation. He was in scenes where there were guns in them as well as being fired. The master armorer of both those movies is Simon Atherton.
Doesn't matter if she was instructing him to point the gun at her. That is still reckless and negligent. Look at the Monalisa Perez case. Sure in this case she did pull the trigger but she was instructed by her boyfriend to do so... Alec Baldwin is guilty and trying to put the blame on everyone else (including the victim). Despicable.
I am so damn sad I missed this live. TYSM, Alyte and Kurt and Andy and Nate!!😘😘😘😘
John Schneider says exactly the same exact thing!!! He did a full video on it, and he was on Hazzard for years!!!! He said he used to do this even in the 70’s. He always checked the gun EVERY time. If Baldwin didn’t want to check the firearm he should have known to bring Hannah back to the set before each use. He knows better!!!!!!!! Halls should have called her on walkie to set. IATSE is also a union who has specific protocols. The fact all of the other misfires were ignored is HUGE. The attitude he had about Clooney was ridiculous. He is the one who is always talking crap about guns in media. He is soo hypocritical. I think he is going on the “I never pulled the trigger” after his lawyer told him to say that when the lawyer saw the “in” with there being other “accidental discharges” in writing.
"They insisted on showing me." Does that mean he declined being shown?
So, it was either the behaviour panel, or on Eric's America's untold stories, that someone suggested peppermint oil on his hand, that helped tear up so quickly.. I'm not sure what I think about that...
You?
At 7:00 minute mark, right before you stopped vid to talk, he admits they spent an hour and half firing the gun…presumably with live rounds - so he knew live ammo was present….also, He shows a clip where he is on set talking about his beard….tells me there may be video (documentary type footage) of everything that happened. So he knows charges are coming and this is damage control
We are all missing a lot of evidence, however with the evidence we see and his (probably bad idea interview) there is enough to at least start a negligent homicide criminal case.
It was cut out of this 3 part set but Baldwin was asked if he felt guilt. He said “No no, I feel that there is, that that that someone is responsible for what happened. I can’t say who that is but I know it’s not me.”
That's horrible.
You wish.
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That’s right . I heard that too . That’s what I wonder most about it , that he does not feel guilty . Strange it missing
New Mexico has a lower standard of proof of negligence with deadly weapons, meaning there is be a higher standard of care by “the man on the bus” when a firearm is being used.
My big question now,...is will the defense allow THE BIG ACTOR to take the stand ?
He is a horrible actor. This interview proves it.
@@GlennWells Your not kidding. Never breaks character. And the character sucks something awful.
George s "you haven't said much in public since the tragedy"
George newsflash!
Baldwin hasn't shut his cake hole since the tragedy
This is why at least everyone who handles the gun in the set should know the basics of the firearm. They should know how the gun discharge which is a firing pin hit the primer. In this case, he said he pulled the hammer back but not all the way and let go, that is how the gun goes off. Since this decock part is not involved with the scene, he should gently drop the hammer slowly and point in the safe direction before doing so.
And he said it himself that blank doesn't have that much recoil compared to the live round so he should recognize that something wrong with this discharge happened.
He knows the rules of gun safety, he has been handling guns for 20+ years. He has had tons of firearms training and so many Hollywood people have come out and said this doesn't make sense, it shouldn't have happened. Couple that with the people leaving the job due to safety issues and Ellen levels of treatment, it sounds like Baldwin was a P. Ø. S. from the start.
He claimed he didn't know the gun even fired...anyone who's ever fired a gun knows that's complete BS. The recoil and loud bang would definitely give it away. He's not even a good lier. Then claiming he never pulled the trigger when that kind of gun wouldn't fire without pulling the trigger because it has a half cock stop.
@@farmerchick3040 I believe that revolver was chambered in some thing like. 45 long colt which you are definitely going to feel and hear. The only thing I could think of maybe, maaaybee that you might not tell if it was a blank or real cartridge would be 17 or 22, however he claimed he didn't feel it or even know basically saying it didn't fire which is horse S. I can't wait for one of the lying experts to do his interviews.
Let's not downplay Baldwin's role as a producer. No matter how much he actually worked on the monetary side, I don't think there can be any doubt that he had the complete power to order or veto anything on this production. If Baldwin had said:"I'm not working without the armorer on set and proper gun safety protocols." then that would have been it. There is no person on this production who would have told him that's too expensive or takes too long and ordered him to shut up and just be an actor.
The person who handed him the gun who said it was cold...how did he know it was cold? Nobody's talking about that.
If you are making a movie in which you are going to spend days, weeks. Months with a gun you should handle the gun and know it in and out.
I’m sorry, but all gun owners know that even if we see someone rack the slide and can see there is no bullet in the chamber, you are still required to personally check it yourself. If production staff want to use real guns, then everyone on set should be trained to check the guns each and every time you pick it up or take it from someone else.
when the 911 call mentions the term "accidental" 3 times,, you just know there is something on...they are beginning to tell the story to the 911 when they should be concerned with the victims and life support
Well if they don't indicate it's accidental than you have police showing up looking for a murderer & DEFINITLEY delaying medical aid to the victims literally without a doubt because they cannot get emt until police clear the scene if it's not am accident, they have to make it clear there is no criminal to apprehend & no ongoing threat
@@ar4203 I am a paramedic (25+ years) and you are wrong about the delay in treatment. In fact, they had a medical provider on the set who began care before the arrival of any 911 response.
@@tygerburning753 you're a paramedic not a police officer but you should stilll be, & presumably are, well aware that police CANNOT ALLOW EMTS&FIRE ONTO A SCENE BEFORE ITS CLEARED- *UNLESS* OF COURSE ITS AN *ACCIDENT* or similar reason that would inherently be safe for ambulance to enter into, IF THERES AN ACTIVE SHOOTER OR POTENTIAL MURDERER THAN THAT DELAYS TREATMENT 1000%. Maybe you misunderstood my comment I don't know what you think I suggested would delay treatment but i was repsonding to the original comment saying the 911 caller is suspicious by saying upfront that its an accident while I'm just saying that if they don't indicate that than the police have to make sure there is no threat to emt/fire before they can help any victims that is a fact, I'm not saying there were not any on set medical personal on set but the ambulance would've not been able to enter had this been like an intentional shooting until the police had the person in custody or deemed the scene as safe for ambulance/emt personal to enter
@@ar4203 actually, no. I'm also a law enforcement officer. Both sets of training put the life of the injured before investigative processes. EMS personnel are trained to preserve evidence as much as possible without compromising care, bit care of the injured comes first. You don't let someone die to preserve a crime scene. That's just basic.
@@ar4203 you se to think that taking control of the scene is a lot more of a long, drawn out process than it is in any but the most unusual circumstances. Also, even in active shooter scenes, specially trained EMS personnel are allowed into the less dangerous parts of the scene to retrieve patients. We train for this.
It's not correct that dry-firing damages a firearm, except for rimfire cartridges. The firearm used here was chambered in .45 Long Colt which is a center-fire cartridge.
That's a distinction that I just recently learned myself, and I've been carrying firearms most of my life. Had always been taught not to dry-fire, but I guess I've been wrong for years. It seems to be a commonly-held belief.
I think if they have the older style of firing pin attached directly to the hammer they may behave a bit more like rimfire guns. A bit, not totally if I am understanding what I was told right.
I absolutely agree. I have shot over a million bullets. Where I did triple or quadruple the amount of dry firing. I have had very few firing pins go bad. - Marine Force Recon and Sniper for 21 years.
@@Doxymeister dry fire. It will make you a much better shot. - former sniper instructor
Yeah, when I was in the Army for Infantry training, we dry fired for days, maybe even a week or two before we did a single live fire. We had a small bar/pin we'd stick inside the muzzle and we'd rest a dime on top of it. You had to squeeze the trigger over and over dry firing without making the dime fall.
Last comment in listening to this I truly believe he did this interview so that he could muddy the jury pools everywhere !
Whether you have an armorer or a prop department handle the guns depends on the state you are filming in. It can be either. Some states require an armorer, others don't. New Mexico requires one to be on set.
As for there being documentation for proper gun safety, yes there is one. The union has written guidlines and policies for exactly how to handle weapons on a movie set. And they are supposed to be attached to the script if there is a gun being used that day. They just didn't follow those policies.
Nate clearly did not see the new Mexico's supreme Court ruling on this subject ( involuntary manslaughter with gun).... 🤷♀️
@AB yh the ruling, look it up
Three seconds.
That's how long it takes to check a revolver cylinder for rounds. That's all he had to do. A little boy lost his mother, because he couldn't be bothered to double check.
Depends on the type of revolver. But that is only part of the reason. Everyone that gun passed through didn't check. They all bear some blame, because someone else could have been killed anywhere along the way.
@@Oblithian I'm not saying other people aren't responsible, also....but that doesn't remove responsibility from the person holding the firearm when it went off.
Movie sets aren't some magical place where gun laws don't exist. There isn't an actor exemption.
If someone is out hunting or at the gun range and they accidentally shoot someone, are they not responsible if the person who handed them the firearm told them it wasn't loaded?
"forty five minutes", then "sixty seconds"? Did she faint, or heart attack? Other guy was loud and hit the ground?
Yeah, likely some lying after the event maybe, but what happens AFTER the gun goes off is not likely to be a source of culpability for firing the gun.
Thanks for providing the single most informative take on the interview I could find on CZcams.
For me, it's his actor's phrasing and stereotypically theatric dramatic pauses that makes this a performance.
Learned about you from Nick’s Rittenhouse coverage, subscribed due to a law-cat clip. 😸
I have a few of these firearms I have spent an hour to attempt to fire a round as mentioned .only way would be the firearm malfunctioned without the trigger being pulled intentionally. He also would have a sore hand if it fired without being ready for it .45 colt is a serious round ,it went through 2 people.....
When Baldwin talks about the gun being empty he says "I was told I was handed an EMPTY GUN", then there's a jump cut to apparently a different take in mid-sentence when he says "if there was COSMETIC ROUNDS...". To me this sounds like he caught himself realizing that with a revolver it's pretty obvious if it is empty, so he corrected himself and talked about cosmetic rounds to give himself an execuse for not noticing something so obvious. But if indeed he was told the gun was EMPTY, as in nothing in it, not even fake/cosmetic rounds, then I think he can not escape negligence because a quick visual check if there's actually nothing in there takes like 1 second and no specialized knowledge to tell apart blanks, fake or live rounds. If I was the prosecutor I would have an expert show the jury how quick and easy it is to check if a revolver is empty and I think the jury would not accept any excuse for not doing this simple check.
Excellent point.
Hes a liar. Claims it was empty but clearly it wasn't and the armor not on set means no one should have had access to the guns. He failed to follow procedure. Maybe others as well but Alec is definitely negligent.
2:45:00 Nate you made the WRONG point. Alec JUST admitted it's ONE person that is responsible, but 5 min earlier he said it could be several people and George called him out on it whenhe said 99% of the time. So NOW Alec admits it is supposed t be ONE person, but during the shoot SOMEONE ELSE handled the weapon. The fact that he KNEW this makes him culpable.
The problem is he never cocked the hammer which would have set the trigger mechanism as the release. What he did, as he said, was he pulled the trigger all the way back without cocking it and then he let it go. He fired the gun without the need for a trigger pull.
Totally agree with Nate, This is PROPAGANDA!
The Background music ……..
The talk of his experience and being different types of a producer…
his part was casting & The storyline…
These people are sickening!
A woman died, and all he had to do is simply CHECK the GUN.
2-3 seconds of his “ precious” time!
Also:
There is no way there wasn’t any kind of kickback from that bullet being fired.
IF ANYONE at all knew that there was a possible live round fired, It was Alec!
He went into great detail of how he had to use “ acting” to create a fake kickback from a non- firing gun.
If there is anything good that could come of this it might be that some people would finally get the message to: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot
I missed the first half of the stream. Andy. You are doing Santa's work.
Nate’s comments are my fave. Great angle. Ty for doing this
2:40:00 the AD is NOT the armorer and isn't the gun expert or the weapons handler so Alec should NOT have relied on him for anything. That's like having the sound guy take over and hand you the weapons on set. PS, I have never been on a set where the armorer didn't deal with the weapons 100% of the time. This was CARELESS procedures at minimum.
It’s odd that he and his wife got so angry when the media didn’t say her name. Yet he barley used her name in the entire interview.
If he was really really broken up he would not be telling long stories about his love for movie making etc.
The shooting happened over a month ago.
Alec is a narcissist so of course he’s going to get into other things like his “ feeling” on everything.
I’m sure he was broken up, but mainly about his involvement and the consequences to “ him” about what happened.
"That's not my policy" wait, your policy?
"Good for you, my policy is to drive whether I'm drunk or not. Hasn't failed me *until* now"
The term that @Uncivil Law was referring to was:
The Man on the Clapham omnibus
It came into usage in English Law when a judgment by Sir Richard Henn Collins (Master of the Rolls) in the 1903 English Court of Appeal libel case, McQuire v. Western Morning News.
He attributed it to Lord Bowen, said to have coined it as junior counsel defending the Tichborne Claimant case in 1871.
It may be derived from the phrase
"Public opinion ... is the opinion of the bald-headed man at the back of the omnibus"
A description by the 19th-century journalist Walter Bagehot of a normal London man. Clapham, in South London, was at the time a nondescript commuter suburb seen to represent "ordinary" London, and in the 19th century would have been served by horse-drawn omnibuses. Omnibus is the term from which "bus" derives, and was still in common use by the judiciary at the beginning of the 20th century.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus
Watch HG Tudor as his videos will explain Alec’s personality. Narcissist. This was very interesting to watch from a legal perspective. Thanks.