*Millions of salutations to our Hindu Warrior Veerangana Manogna Sastry ji🚩* , who raised the flag of Hindu🚩 with the power of her Bhakti in the crowd of Billions. She is working 24/7 so hard to awaken, Enlighten, Open the Eyes, Tell the Truth, Facts, Reality to Siklar Sleeping Hindus🚩 *Jai Hindu Dharma🚩Jai Jai Shree Ram🙏🕉️🚩*
This is not a topic I have any knowledge of nor have any interest in beyond my passion for epistemic justice, but because I abhor lies & the harns caused by those who perpetuate inauthentic information, I applaud this effort to disseminate supplementary public information on the provenance of the knowledge under dispute.
Wow, an American Christian with no real context of the Indian experience is presenting his arrogant eurocentric narrative as the authoritative version of Hinduism to be taught to Indian students!
कृपया, इस अति महत्त्वपूर्ण मुद्दे का हिंदी भाषा में अनुवाद उपलब्ध कराइए, ताकि समाजशास्र, इतिहास, राजीतिशास्त्र, सामाजिक विज्ञान जैसे विषयों के शिक्षक इन बिंदुओं को अपनी कक्षाओं में विद्यार्थियों के आगे चिंतन हेतु रख सकें, अन्यथा क्षेत्रीय भाषा जानने वाला एक बहुत बड़ा वर्ग इन बातों को अगले कई वर्षों तक जान ही नहीं पाएगा; और उन्हें भारतीय संस्कृति को निम्न समझने वाली विचारधारा से मुक्ति नहीं मिल पाएगी। आभार
Can these foreign professors of Sanskrit sit in Yogic posture? Can they chant the Mantras of Our tradition? Put these challenges to test their knowledge and memory base.
OPINION - Micheal Witzel is a German , born in Poland during 1943; during the Second World War. His origins need to be scrutinized to understand his intense dislike for anything and everything Hindu. No information is available as to his origins. Is he a Jew or a Christian. Is he a Marxist of the Frankfurt school? What are his links with Sheldon Pollock ? Their attempts to hijack Shakaracharya's Advaita Vedanta failed and may be the cause of his hatred towards Hindus, Is he a Jew? Is he anti-semitic? The foundation of his long standing attack on Hindu Civilization and Culture needs to be understood and studied.
Prof. Witzel is a German Christian, although I am not sure whether he is a practicing Christian. He has written somewhere, with great pride, that Martin Luther -- the Protestant religious reformer -- is one of his ancestors.
As Srikanth Talgeri once said "Truth and honesty is what missing in the field of Aryan debate", "you can only wake up the one who is sleeping not the one who is acting" a Tamil saying, to wake those Idiots in the west and the pawns in India just slap them in the face with a chapel, maybe then the can wake up to the Truth
The very first sloka of Bruhadharanyaka Upanishad starts with complete descriptions of A Horse .Non.Indian Sanskrit professors.have very little Idea of lnidic.Knowledge.
मानोग्या शास्त्री जी का सनातन हिंदू धर्म के बारे में उन लोगो को तर्क पूर्ण तरीके से एक तमाचा है जो हिंदू धर्म के बारे में कैलिफोर्निया के स्कूलों में झूठ पढ़ा रहे है।इस डिबेट को हिन्दी अनुवाद कर दिखाया जाए ताकि भारत में मौजूद सनातनी भी इसको समझ सकें।
What is the point of a slide if it is removed so quickly that you cannot read it? No PowerPoint presentation should be a large block of text. One cannot take it in, nor understand nor absorb it.
Ma'am, can you please comment on the following. Ramayana is dated around 13000BC based on Lord Shri Rama's astrological birth chart mentioned in valmiki s Ramayana. It is a known fact that Bharat has made great strides in Astrology and Astronomy. With the same analysis, Kurukshetra war is placed in 7000 BC, which tallied with archeological evidence of Dwaraka under sea carbon dating. Thank you.
What we need is our own "International" journals on Indology, archaeology and anthropology where we not only publish our findings, but also use it for objectively disputing/challenging the incorrect narratives and call-out the authors by name. Longer we depend on other, longer will we be complaining without any recourse.
Yes and just like our ancient IKS, these journals without any bias produced best of the research and set up the credibility. We need this in all areas history, science, technical
Are there not enough culturally-aware Indian scholars in this domain who would peer review such crass works by Witzel etc? Or such papers are being released by improper means, with biased reviews?
Unfortunately we were taught this lies in school, in ISC and CBSC syllabus. Btw I pity people like Michal Michel,who spend their entire life proving lies
The Social Department at Harvard University is DESPICABLE!! They lack INTEGRITY in their work. ALL INDIANS NEED TO KNOW THAT HARVARD UNIVERSITY IS SYSTEMICALLY FLAWED & REVEAL THIS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
In the ancient Gurukula system of education, while there would be no discrimination in admitting or imparting common knowledge to all students, the Guru, by closely observing the progress made by each student in gaining knowledge, clarity and command over the various topics taught to them, would select only very few among them to pass on knowledge which were very esoteric, and if not grasped in their deep essential spirit, and which in the hands of those not merited and competent enough to employ them to common good, could cause immense damage to entire society. The power of knowledge for good or bad was very well understood, and care would be exercised by those exalted Gurus in selecting only those who had the capability to use such knowledge only for the good of the community in totally selfness manner. But no such concept of filtering exists in the western system of education. The result is that even those who lack intellectual honesty, and the ability to comprehend the the deep implied meanings of some verses from our sacred texts with reference to their contexts, and whose grasp of the esoteric knowledge is partial and incomplete, will with pretentious audacity come to occupy powerful positions in universities, and will use those positions to give shape to their narrow, self-centred, or evil, designs.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Is Veda everything. What about other things which everyone can learn in Gurukulas. And Veda jnana wasn't prohibited Veda uccharana was
Another max Muller that too from harward which is very strongly trying to break our civilization. Manogna hope you have read the book -Snakes in the Ganga- by Rajiv Malhotra. Present this book to this guy.
A recent detailed publication from 2019 in the journal Science entitled "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" studying DNA patterns shows evidence of significant migration to the northern side of current India.
As per latest genetic studies on Rakhigarhi skeleton, the people of the IVC were the primary ancestors of most living Indians today. The so called 'Aryan-Dravidian' theory fails BIG. Migrations from Central Asia took place long after the so-called 1500 BCE 'Aryan invasion'. This theory has been debunked long ago. Rest is the case of selection and confirmation bias.
The chariots were imported by the indus people but horses couldnt be? Or may be aryans in central asia were eating the horses and the horses escaped the barbarians and migrated to more a civilized society of the indus.
The host is talking about LANGUAGE, VULTURE & CIVILISATION.....Witzel Haa manufactured a false history that the world has bought...... and ignores the OUT OF INDIA THEORY.....which spread into Europe prior to Christianity coming to Europe
The basic deceit is this; Because Indians share features with Europeans they want to claim they where the originators of Indian Civilization.The same deceit and greed to steal Civilizations comes when the Question of Ethiopians is addressed.Since they share features with Europeans and since there was no border between them and ancient Egypt; deceitfully they have no declared Ethiopians to be " Black Whites".
Shocked that nothing was talked about 10,000 USD prize money and three line seal M314 as well as LOUVER LION TABLE inscriptions. Please do a live session for same. Dr Gupta has decoded seal M 314 LETTER BY LETTER. See Academia. DGHC 2021.
So Yoga, Ayurveda came from west 😂😂😂😂, and how so called Aryan from west don’t have Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Upanishad, scriptures in their history?? These westerners are suffering from megalomania and though they persecuted Galileo for the truth of calling out unscientific bible theories but still believe in bible 😅😅😅😅
Michael Witzel seems to be a acrimonious person, person spewing venom against Bharatiya civilization & culture. Learning from such a source is an insult to education 😖.
She is not telling any new thing ! Aryan migration has been clearly proven by David Reichs genetic studies of 2019 which has so far not been refuted by any real studies ! Even the latest research by Dr. Anshumali mukhopadhyaya has shown that the harappan language was dravidian !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Genetics does not show Aryan word's meaning Vs Aryans as people. If archeological evidences are weak then why chose any side ? Regarding 20-25% steppe genes in Indian population - you forgot that it was women mediated in some regions like Swat valley. She provided some instances of Witzel not being humble enough to be in the high positions he has stayed for so long. Allow space for nuances from all sides.
@@dsbdsb6637 The 2019 genetic study shows that the yamnaya people reached western Europe earlier than India and their languages still resemble indo Iranian/ aryan languages . Lithuanian is closest to sanskrit !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Then why Indian Indo-European languages substrate do not have parellels in Europe ? Also we should call not use the term Dravidian instead call it proto-Dravidian.
Hope we will be able to sue or ban such scholars and historian who refuses to accept facts and archaeological servey. hope some day our gove give more focus on clearing all the history so that we will be proud of ourselves rather than swelf pity
The AIT is true, however not in the sense the Westerners have framed it. There was basically no invasion, nor were there any cohesive group of peoples calling themselves "Aryans". Hindutva reaction is unjustified as well, given that Central Asia was basically Dharmic uptil the rise of Turks. So Central Asia isn't really that disconnected with Punjab or Kashmir. Indus as a "hard boundary" of Indic civilization is a concept that arose during mediaeval era only. Buddhist monks freely travelled to Afghanistan and Central Asia. The issue is multifold - the most serious one being the Christian calendar and a purely materialistic worldview of history, where archaeological remains are necessarily required, and nobody really knows whether those pottery artifacts were produced by that society or bought from some other society nearby through trade.
Britishers did this to our history and civilisation for reasons , we can understand. But why the hell Harward is indulging in this false narrative against Indian civilisation. Is this for money coming from vested interests. If this is correct they are at best a mercenary university.
Anyone who thinks and proposes Ramayana earlier than Mahabharata is absolutely stupid because by the times of Mahabharata there were three wars, one for Cows/Gos (Uttara) Go Grahanam, next less prominent one for Ashwas/Horses Ashwa Grahanam and finally one for Land/Bhoo Grahanam just before Rajasooya Yagnyam of Pandavas, in that order. Whereas by the times of Ramayana, there was only Bhoo Grahanam just before Rajasooya Yagnyam/Pattaabhishekam of LavaKushas. The concepts of Property, Ownership etc. evolved a bit more by the times of Mahabharata. Therefore, Mahabharata should succeed Ramayana. As I heard. Also Sahadeva, one of Pancha Pandavas wrote a book on breeding/raising of cows and Nakula, another one of Pancha Pandavas wrote a book on breeding/raising of horses. Writing a book certainly evolves later, isn't it so? One has to be careful with 'some' of these Western researchers that are suffering from intellectual puberty. I don't know why they're so pertinent about framing/cooking up Hindu and all other Histories, trying to bring everything to around the birth of Jesus as if the cosmos never existed before his birth! ACTUALLY IF ONE TAKES THE GROWTH OF KNOWLEDGE INTO ACCOUNT, IT'S MUCH MUCH LESSER IN THOSE DAYS AND ALL THESE DATINGS WOULD BE QUITE WRONG! BUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE GROWTH RATE OF KNOWLEDGE? Although there are several other countries that existed between Cancer and Equator lines with equal NIGHT-SKY-VISIBILITY (NSV), it's uniquely Bharath that developed so much of Astronomy based on this NSV! Isn't it peculiar to Bharath? Another thing that really bothers me too much is, academically speaking, if the Greek Philosophers, Society are so original to have come up with those Philosophies that they are attributed to, why did they fall so quickly to, much inferior and intellectually sterile Christianity? Greek Philosophies are no doubt superior to Christian philosophy. No one can deny that Christianity doesn't allow anyone to question, whereas Greeks debated on Philosophies. If there was so much of debating of Philosophies as they are attrubuted to, their society would've disintegrated just like Hindu Society, wouldn't it have?
If there is no invasion archaelogically , then those Indra texts are just mythical or copied from adjacent cultures just like the Puranas. Shrikanth T said that rituals and Soma culture came via Druhyu tribe to Purus. All copied .. no originality...
Perhaps this madam is unaware of the genetic studies titled " formation of human populations of south and central asia " by harvard university co authored by many indian scientists also .
The lack of intellectual honesty amongst ‘scholars’ like Witzel and Thapar highlights their approach their academic studies. Instead of allowing the evidence to formulate their conclusions, here their conclusions are already decided upon, the evidence is secondary or tweaked to match their conclusions. Their stand on the topics are not changeable and they stick to those regardless of being shown contrary evidence. Such lack of research rigour is disgraceful and embarrassing. Their Hindu phobia is unbelievable. Why study a language, a religion and history that they have such hatred towards? I can’t believe their lack of ethics and how driven they are in their hatred to interfere in school textbooks in California! And that too dismissing as inconsequential that wrong facts are taught to kids!
Time and again it Aryan coming from outside has been disprived by many.But Romila Thapar is highly anti Hindus and qoatingvher here us highly objectionable.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg भारत विरोधी दल। "भारत " शब्द किनके लिए है? जानना चाहते हैं तो उस त्यागी भरत को याद कीजिए जिन्होंने भाई को वनवासी बनाने पर मां,राजपद दोनो को छोड़कर भरत राज स्थापित किया।
Neither genetically not archeologically can it be proved as such it's a lie and you propagating it is a liar as of today. All the so called Aryans exist only in your brain.
Whatever gives you good sleep. Now because of archaeological survey and with help of satellites we are able to reveal the truth .. so you west can't fool us. Just hope in few years we will be able to ban such illogical and fictional things.
*Millions of salutations to our Hindu Warrior Veerangana Manogna Sastry ji🚩* , who raised the flag of Hindu🚩 with the power of her Bhakti in the crowd of Billions. She is working 24/7 so hard to awaken, Enlighten, Open the Eyes, Tell the Truth, Facts, Reality to Siklar Sleeping Hindus🚩 *Jai Hindu Dharma🚩Jai Jai Shree Ram🙏🕉️🚩*
I appreciate and applaud commendable work of Manogna Sastry and her team. Kudos and more power to you.
This is not a topic I have any knowledge of nor have any interest in beyond my passion for epistemic justice, but because I abhor lies & the harns caused by those who perpetuate inauthentic information, I applaud this effort to disseminate supplementary public information on the provenance of the knowledge under dispute.
Same here
You could have just said, good effort
Wow, an American Christian with no real context of the Indian experience is presenting his arrogant eurocentric narrative as the authoritative version of Hinduism to be taught to Indian students!
Sir kya kehna chahte ho?
1st point of a good communicator is short and crisp …..not beating around the bush…. I hope I have made my point clear !!!
ABSOLUTELY STELLAR AND BRILLIANT RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION MS. SASTRI JI. This needs is to be shown in all schools as well. 🇮🇳
कृपया, इस अति महत्त्वपूर्ण मुद्दे का हिंदी भाषा में अनुवाद उपलब्ध कराइए, ताकि समाजशास्र, इतिहास, राजीतिशास्त्र, सामाजिक विज्ञान जैसे विषयों के शिक्षक इन बिंदुओं को अपनी कक्षाओं में विद्यार्थियों के आगे चिंतन हेतु रख सकें, अन्यथा क्षेत्रीय भाषा जानने वाला एक बहुत बड़ा वर्ग इन बातों को अगले कई वर्षों तक जान ही नहीं पाएगा; और उन्हें भारतीय संस्कृति को निम्न समझने वाली विचारधारा से मुक्ति नहीं मिल पाएगी। आभार
बिल्कुल।
Thank you for a very scholarly talk....we didn't know how they have been operating up till now😮😮😮
Can these foreign professors of Sanskrit sit in Yogic posture? Can they chant the Mantras of Our tradition? Put these challenges to test their knowledge and memory base.
Similar problem in the Sanskrit and Indology faculty of Oxford University
Ruko sabke kapde utrenge dheere dheere
They have a competition to prove who is worse than the other..
make a Document and send to these people, so they can expose them and say truth.
Thank you for exposing the lies being peddled by Harvrard fakes.
@ManognaSastry ji : beautiful presentation….short and crisp….to the point…..thank you ❤
Could you not refer to Nilesh Oak and his work on Ram - Ravan war and thé Mahabharata War? Chronology is so important.
OPINION - Micheal Witzel is a German , born in Poland during 1943; during the Second World War. His origins need to be scrutinized to understand his intense dislike for anything and everything Hindu. No information is available as to his origins. Is he a Jew or a Christian. Is he a Marxist of the Frankfurt school? What are his links with Sheldon Pollock ? Their attempts to hijack Shakaracharya's Advaita Vedanta failed and may be the cause of his hatred towards Hindus, Is he a Jew? Is he anti-semitic? The foundation of his long standing attack on Hindu Civilization and Culture needs to be understood and studied.
Prof. Witzel is a German Christian, although I am not sure whether he is a practicing Christian. He has written somewhere, with great pride, that Martin Luther -- the Protestant religious reformer -- is one of his ancestors.
@@hkumar7340 that may be what he says - but it may not be the truth. wetzel is a jewish name and he was born in poland.
As Srikanth Talgeri once said "Truth and honesty is what missing in the field of Aryan debate", "you can only wake up the one who is sleeping not the one who is acting" a Tamil saying, to wake those Idiots in the west and the pawns in India just slap them in the face with a chapel, maybe then the can wake up to the Truth
Great work.Nice job. Thanks 🙏
The very first sloka of Bruhadharanyaka Upanishad starts with complete descriptions of A Horse .Non.Indian Sanskrit professors.have very little Idea of lnidic.Knowledge.
मानोग्या शास्त्री जी का सनातन हिंदू धर्म के बारे में उन लोगो को तर्क पूर्ण तरीके से एक तमाचा है जो हिंदू धर्म के बारे में कैलिफोर्निया के स्कूलों में झूठ पढ़ा रहे है।इस डिबेट को हिन्दी अनुवाद कर दिखाया जाए ताकि भारत में मौजूद सनातनी भी इसको समझ सकें।
India needs to Academically invest so much to expose this false lies how some propoagated and make sure all are corrected and told Truth.
What is the point of a slide if it is removed so quickly that you cannot read it? No PowerPoint presentation should be a large block of text. One cannot take it in, nor understand nor absorb it.
awesome work by manogna
Ma'am, can you please comment on the following.
Ramayana is dated around 13000BC based on Lord Shri Rama's astrological birth chart mentioned in valmiki s Ramayana. It is a known fact that Bharat has made great strides in Astrology and Astronomy. With the same analysis, Kurukshetra war is placed in 7000 BC, which tallied with archeological evidence of Dwaraka under sea carbon dating.
Thank you.
What we need is our own "International" journals on Indology, archaeology and anthropology where we not only publish our findings, but also use it for objectively disputing/challenging the incorrect narratives and call-out the authors by name. Longer we depend on other, longer will we be complaining without any recourse.
See immense amount of such works by Rajiv Malhotra.
Yes and just like our ancient IKS, these journals without any bias produced best of the research and set up the credibility. We need this in all areas history, science, technical
धन्यवाद। மிக்க நன்றி 🙏🏾
Thank you For Your Support!
Thank you so much for this. Can you say “controlled narrative?” If is sows division well…. We are all one. Thanks for showing the truth.
Romila Thapar and witzel, Irfan Habib are out to insult Hindus and Indians.
😂😂😂😂 sanghi spotted
@@CrosswireHunter alhumpisslullah, brother r u a muslim?
@@CrosswireHunter fedofile frofet follower spotted
Yes he is pieceful and loves masoom bubbies
Thank you for your work. What happened about correcting the California school books lies?
Valuable content anf to the point presentation. All the best manodnyaa jee.
Thank you.
Thanks!
Thank you For Your Support!
Are there not enough culturally-aware Indian scholars in this domain who would peer review such crass works by Witzel etc? Or such papers are being released by improper means, with biased reviews?
Well done mam
Considering the hard fact that ydna evidence clearly contradicts the AIT and in fact points directly at an out of India migration
Mother India
Unfortunately we were taught this lies in school, in ISC and CBSC syllabus. Btw I pity people like Michal Michel,who spend their entire life proving lies
The Social Department at Harvard University is DESPICABLE!! They lack INTEGRITY in their work.
ALL INDIANS NEED TO KNOW THAT HARVARD UNIVERSITY IS SYSTEMICALLY FLAWED & REVEAL THIS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Why Abhrahimic ppls afraids from Hinduism?
We never forced anyone to Converting in ours.
In the ancient Gurukula system of education, while there would be no discrimination in admitting or imparting common knowledge to all students, the Guru, by closely observing the progress made by each student in gaining knowledge, clarity and command over the various topics taught to them, would select only very few among them to pass on knowledge which were very esoteric, and if not grasped in their deep essential spirit, and which in the hands of those not merited and competent enough to employ them to common good, could cause immense damage to entire society. The power of knowledge for good or bad was very well understood, and care would be exercised by those exalted Gurus in selecting only those who had the capability to use such knowledge only for the good of the community in totally selfness manner. But no such concept of filtering exists in the western system of education. The result is that even those who lack intellectual honesty, and the ability to comprehend the the deep implied meanings of some verses from our sacred texts with reference to their contexts, and whose grasp of the esoteric knowledge is partial and incomplete, will with pretentious audacity come to occupy powerful positions in universities, and will use those positions to give shape to their narrow, self-centred, or evil, designs.
No discrimination in gurukula ?
Then how come Manu forbades shudras from learning vedas ? Is there no limit for your lies ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Is Veda everything. What about other things which everyone can learn in Gurukulas.
And Veda jnana wasn't prohibited Veda uccharana was
@@HinduPhoenix Why ucharana prohibited. ?
Which guru admitted shudras. ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Manu forbids Shudras LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Source: Trust me bro 🤡
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Many great students and Gurus have been of the Shudra Varna 🤣🤣🤣 Read history instead of listening to DMKtards.
Another max Muller that too from harward which is very strongly trying to break our civilization. Manogna hope you have read the book -Snakes in the Ganga- by Rajiv Malhotra. Present this book to this guy.
A recent detailed publication from 2019 in the journal Science entitled "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" studying DNA patterns shows evidence of significant migration to the northern side of current India.
As per latest genetic studies on Rakhigarhi skeleton, the people of the IVC were the primary ancestors of most living Indians today.
The so called 'Aryan-Dravidian' theory fails BIG.
Migrations from Central Asia took place long after the so-called 1500 BCE 'Aryan invasion'. This theory has been debunked long ago. Rest is the case of selection and confirmation bias.
The chariots were imported by the indus people but horses couldnt be? Or may be aryans in central asia were eating the horses and the horses escaped the barbarians and migrated to more a civilized society of the indus.
One cannot deny that all mankind originates from East Africa , that even your presenter cannot deny.
The host is talking about LANGUAGE, VULTURE & CIVILISATION.....Witzel Haa manufactured a false history that the world has bought...... and ignores the OUT OF INDIA THEORY.....which spread into Europe prior to Christianity coming to Europe
The basic deceit is this; Because Indians share features with Europeans they want to claim they where the originators of Indian Civilization.The same deceit and greed to steal Civilizations comes when the Question of Ethiopians is addressed.Since they share features with Europeans and since there was no border between them and ancient Egypt; deceitfully they have no declared Ethiopians to be " Black Whites".
Shocked that nothing was talked about 10,000 USD prize money and three line seal M314 as well as LOUVER LION TABLE inscriptions. Please do a live session for same. Dr Gupta has decoded seal M 314 LETTER BY LETTER. See Academia. DGHC 2021.
Video name should be paapyoni response to the bramhinism exposé
So Yoga, Ayurveda came from west 😂😂😂😂, and how so called Aryan from west don’t have Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Upanishad, scriptures in their history?? These westerners are suffering from megalomania and though they persecuted Galileo for the truth of calling out unscientific bible theories but still believe in bible 😅😅😅😅
They packed all their books, artifacts, sanskrit and brought here. Those left behind had nothing. Such nice people. True aryans.
Michael Witzel seems to be a acrimonious person, person spewing venom against Bharatiya civilization & culture. Learning from such a source is an insult to education 😖.
RESPECT - Manogna Sastry!
She is not telling any new thing !
Aryan migration has been clearly proven by David Reichs genetic studies of 2019 which has so far not been refuted by any real studies !
Even the latest research by Dr. Anshumali mukhopadhyaya has shown that the harappan language was dravidian !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Genetics does not show Aryan word's meaning Vs Aryans as people. If archeological evidences are weak then why chose any side ? Regarding 20-25% steppe genes in Indian population - you forgot that it was women mediated in some regions like Swat valley. She provided some instances of Witzel not being humble enough to be in the high positions he has stayed for so long. Allow space for nuances from all sides.
@@dsbdsb6637 The 2019 genetic study shows that the yamnaya people reached western Europe earlier than India and their languages still resemble indo Iranian/ aryan languages .
Lithuanian is closest to sanskrit !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Then why Indian Indo-European languages substrate do not have parellels in Europe ? Also we should call not use the term Dravidian instead call it proto-Dravidian.
@@dsbdsb6637 Indo aryan languages have more cognates in European languages than south Indian languages ?
Hope we will be able to sue or ban such scholars and historian who refuses to accept facts and archaeological servey. hope some day our gove give more focus on clearing all the history so that we will be proud of ourselves rather than swelf pity
🙏🙏
The AIT is true, however not in the sense the Westerners have framed it. There was basically no invasion, nor were there any cohesive group of peoples calling themselves "Aryans".
Hindutva reaction is unjustified as well, given that Central Asia was basically Dharmic uptil the rise of Turks. So Central Asia isn't really that disconnected with Punjab or Kashmir. Indus as a "hard boundary" of Indic civilization is a concept that arose during mediaeval era only. Buddhist monks freely travelled to Afghanistan and Central Asia.
The issue is multifold - the most serious one being the Christian calendar and a purely materialistic worldview of history, where archaeological remains are necessarily required, and nobody really knows whether those pottery artifacts were produced by that society or bought from some other society nearby through trade.
Shut up...
You know nothing
Britishers did this to our history and civilisation for reasons , we can understand. But why the hell Harward is indulging in this false narrative against Indian civilisation. Is this for money coming from vested interests. If this is correct they are at best a mercenary university.
How did Witzel even become a professor 🤦♂️
Anyone who thinks and proposes Ramayana earlier than Mahabharata is absolutely stupid because by the times of Mahabharata there were three wars, one for Cows/Gos (Uttara) Go Grahanam, next less prominent one for Ashwas/Horses Ashwa Grahanam and finally one for Land/Bhoo Grahanam just before Rajasooya Yagnyam of Pandavas, in that order.
Whereas by the times of Ramayana, there was only Bhoo Grahanam just before Rajasooya Yagnyam/Pattaabhishekam of LavaKushas.
The concepts of Property, Ownership etc. evolved a bit more by the times of Mahabharata.
Therefore, Mahabharata should succeed Ramayana.
As I heard.
Also Sahadeva, one of Pancha Pandavas wrote a book on breeding/raising of cows and Nakula, another one of Pancha Pandavas wrote a book on breeding/raising of horses. Writing a book certainly evolves later, isn't it so?
One has to be careful with 'some' of these Western researchers that are suffering from intellectual puberty.
I don't know why they're so pertinent about framing/cooking up Hindu and all other Histories, trying to bring everything to around the birth of Jesus as if the cosmos never existed before his birth!
ACTUALLY IF ONE TAKES THE GROWTH OF KNOWLEDGE INTO ACCOUNT, IT'S MUCH MUCH LESSER IN THOSE DAYS AND ALL THESE DATINGS WOULD BE QUITE WRONG! BUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE GROWTH RATE OF KNOWLEDGE?
Although there are several other countries that existed between Cancer and Equator lines with equal NIGHT-SKY-VISIBILITY (NSV), it's uniquely Bharath that developed so much of Astronomy based on this NSV! Isn't it peculiar to Bharath?
Another thing that really bothers me too much is, academically speaking, if the Greek Philosophers, Society are so original to have come up with those Philosophies that they are attributed to, why did they fall so quickly to, much inferior and intellectually sterile Christianity? Greek Philosophies are no doubt superior to Christian philosophy.
No one can deny that Christianity doesn't allow anyone to question, whereas Greeks debated on Philosophies.
If there was so much of debating of Philosophies as they are attrubuted to, their society would've disintegrated just like Hindu Society, wouldn't it have?
I think we should change his name to Weasel. He certainly looks like one.
Witsel really a weasel!
If there is no invasion archaelogically , then those Indra texts are just mythical or copied from adjacent cultures just like the Puranas. Shrikanth T said that rituals and Soma culture came via Druhyu tribe to Purus. All copied .. no originality...
Ye firangiyo ko Pehle se bhav nahi dete naa to ye sab naa kar pate woh…humko laga. Gora rang hai Mann bhi saaf hoga…chalo der aaye durust aaye
Perhaps this madam is unaware of the genetic studies titled " formation of human populations of south and central asia " by harvard university co authored by many indian scientists also .
The lack of intellectual honesty amongst ‘scholars’ like Witzel and Thapar highlights their approach their academic studies. Instead of allowing the evidence to formulate their conclusions, here their conclusions are already decided upon, the evidence is secondary or tweaked to match their conclusions. Their stand on the topics are not changeable and they stick to those regardless of being shown contrary evidence. Such lack of research rigour is disgraceful and embarrassing. Their Hindu phobia is unbelievable. Why study a language, a religion and history that they have such hatred towards? I can’t believe their lack of ethics and how driven they are in their hatred to interfere in school textbooks in California! And that too dismissing as inconsequential that wrong facts are taught to kids!
Time and again it Aryan coming from outside has been disprived by many.But Romila Thapar is highly anti Hindus and qoatingvher here us highly objectionable.
ALGORITHM....
#cfr
Drag those liers for stage contest... challenge them
The real liers are the vedic , puranic and iothihasic composers !
Ramayana and maha bharatha are pure lies with no material evidences !
how that historian got chance in Harvard
So much whistling
Aryan Migration is absolutely correct. Watsapp University people should stop making a fool of themselves.
Kumar from goberpatti shut up....
Their is no aryan Race
Presenting Witzel's critique without mentioned Shrikant Talageri is the sort of bad scholarship that plagues Indians.
All false information being dished our here .. shameful
Good that she's exposing the lies
Thats the best counter you have? Not an iota of proof or info from @tush
Yes, we should all just take your word for it .
That fellow is barbaric? 😮
Bhart virodhi gang
From where do you get the word bharath ? Is it not from a story called mahabharath ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg भारत विरोधी दल।
"भारत " शब्द किनके लिए है?
जानना चाहते हैं तो उस त्यागी भरत को याद कीजिए जिन्होंने भाई को वनवासी बनाने पर मां,राजपद दोनो को छोड़कर भरत राज स्थापित किया।
@@santoshjha920 Please tell in English or tamil or Malayalam or kannada for me to understand. !
தயவாயி தமிழில் குறிப்பிடுங்கள். !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Bipin Chandra,romila Thapar, Irfan Habib, are anti national historian ie Bharat virodhi gang
Bbb
Why do Indians mispronounce steppes ?
What utter nonsense.
Exactly what is nonsense ?
Sastry is Wrong. Aryans are real and existed and still exist today.
Nonsense
😂😆
Neither genetically not archeologically can it be proved as such it's a lie and you propagating it is a liar as of today.
All the so called Aryans exist only in your brain.
Whatever gives you good sleep. Now because of archaeological survey and with help of satellites we are able to reveal the truth .. so you west can't fool us. Just hope in few years we will be able to ban such illogical and fictional things.
Sure, in your tiny mind they might still be existing today