The Harsh Truth About Bo Nix
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- In the video we dive deep into the Denver Broncos' tumultuous 2023 season and the crucial 2024 NFL Draft. Discover how high expectations with Russell Wilson and Sean Payton led to a disappointing year, ultimately resulting in Wilson being benched. As the Broncos faced an urgent need for a new quarterback, we explore Bo Nix's journey from high school star to college standout at Auburn and Oregon.
We reveal the harsh truth about Bo Nix's prospects in the NFL and the historical challenges faced by the sixth quarterback drafted each year. Learn about past quarterbacks in this position and why Bo Nix must defy the odds to succeed. Despite the grim statistics, there is hope, as we draw parallels to Hall of Famer Dan Marino's unexpected rise to greatness.
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While I appreciate the video, none of the 6th picked QBs listed were Heisman finalists, highest single season completion % in NCAA history, most starts by a QB in NCAA history, or drafted by Sean Payton.
Bo Nix was a household name in college. Then others you listed here were not.
Good take
Do you know who else was in a statistical dead heat time with Nix for the highest single season completion percentage in college football history?
Mac Jones. Jones had a 77.36% completion rate in his 3rd season at Alabama. That compares to Nix who had a 77.44% completion rate. Statistically you round 77.36 up to 77.4 and you round 77.44 down to 77.4. In other words, the difference here is less than the statistical measuring used in the NFL considers worth noting. The other difference is...Jones did it in his 3rd year instead of his 5th, & perhaps more importantly, he did it against better SEC defenses.
College stats, being a Heisman finalist, or having a household name...none of that is relevant in the NFL. If they were, Tim Tebow would now be a star in the NFL & Mac Jones would not be a backup on the bench.
People need to chill with the pressure they are putting on this kid.
Bo was also the 6th QB at the 12 overall pick
Colin Klein was a heisman finalist, doesn’t really translate to the NFL
@@user-zr4km5ns8tMac Jones didn’t land in a good situation at all. That also factors in. Bo is landing in a good situation.
The logic doesn’t really work out here. What has being the 6th QB to do with Nix future success? That’s just grasping at straws. Not to mention that this class had much more depth than other QB classes
It’s an easy cop out for people to say that Denver settled at QB as if Lamar and Marino weren’t taken later than other qb prospects. Hell, even Purdy was the last QB taken in his class and he’s easily the best among all of the 2022 class
That’s tough stat to use being the 6th qb taken.
Marino was the 6th qb taken, Tom Brady was taken in 6th.
A lot of these players weren’t the prospect Nix was/is.
I think Nix will be good and really won't have to try that hard. He has probably the best all around package of attributes of the quarterbacks drafted. He has the perfect fit for a coach, an offensive line that was third in the NFL in run block win rate last year, a stable of very impressive running backs, several very promising wide receivers in a large competition, and Lukas Krull likely to break out at TE. Their bigger question marks are at LB, CB and maybe safety. I don't have them as a playoff team this year, but I think they will be in all but a few games, and that they're one killer defensive offseason away from being a deep contender.
You didn’t mention one thing he does well as a QB
@@jordanboyd3329 so
This logic is stupid. Ia he 6th, yes. is he a FIRST ROUND PICK, yes. Bo nix is a first roud pick, and he has show to be a collegic playoff contender. He is a perfect fit to a sean payton offense. So 🤷♀️
Don’t worry girl, most people don’t know what they’re talking about anyway. They’ll see soon enough
The broncos also drafted his number one weapon he had at Oregon in Troy Franklin
Bo Nix will easily be the best rookie QB this season
"easily" lmao what u smoking
@@moonillusions832 Stay tuned and find out, the season's around the corner
@@moonillusions832exactly lol I believe in JJ over Bo
@@RawwRexyou cannot be fucking serious😂. JJ is easily the most book or bust player in this draft, he won’t be playing this year or next year. If you think he will play as a rookie you’re smoking crack.
@@RawwRexI wonder why…. But yeah Bo Nix is going to be awful this season, just because of how awful the broncos are going to be in general. Caleb Williams has everything lined up for him to be OROY.
this is a square peg in a round hole kind of logic. a 12th pick being the 6th QB selected shouldn't be compared to a day two/three picks who were also the 6th QBs selected.
but entertaining video.
These QBS that were drafted as the 6th QB were not first round talent. They were 4th rounders mainly. Bad judgement in my opinion. Bo Nix will thrive in the Sean Payton offense.
By how you know fusure his talent screams first round...?
We think it does but ?
Rosen
Mac Jones
Trey Lance
Kenny Pickett
Not saying hes not better .
Just saying first round QB
Dont have first round talent..always
Like all the QB drafted this year I feel that way only about
McCarty and Maye.
@@jameshollister8294 nix was insane at Oregon and he is perfect for Payton’s scheme
@@No_Excuses_Boss agree ,just don't work out from some Quarterbacks..I think he will struggle this year but when Denver gets a better team around him I think he will have a purdy affect..I got more Faith in nix being good.
..none with Bryce young being great
Everyone knows this draft right here was just different for everybody! There hasn’t been a draft like this ever
It doesn’t matter where you are picked or if you’re the 6th qb off the board, it’s about fit and who your coach is.
Dan Marino was the 6th QB of the board in 1983...
Edit - I commented this before you said this at the end of the video 😂
🤣
It’s crazy how Caleb Williams was drafted 1st overall yet has the most weapons out of all the 6 QBs and the broncos depth chart def gonna help that 6th QB being a bust streak going
All thanks to my panthers 😔
@@AnotherSportsChannelGO BUCS 😂
I think it's crazy people are bashing the Broncos depth as if they didn't just win 8 games ( first time in 7 years) with a QB that couldn't stop taking sacks beating 3 teams who all won playoff games
@broncosfannum24 they beat the superbowl champions handily.
Nix has the tools that are needed in the NFL. He has +arm strength, he processes quickly, he's careful with the ball, he's very accurate, he's sneaky athletic, and he's a nerd for the game
Awesome video. Would like to see another one at the end of the football season on Nix. Let's Go Broncos!!
I would argue that some trends are more significant than others. Just looking at the 6th QB taken in a draft with no other context doesn't strike me as a particularly informative trend. As you noted with your examples, sometimes that 6th QB went in the 5th round, sometimes the 4th round. The one comparison you make of a Sixth selection that was actually drafted in the 1st round was Marino. But, even this trend doesn't really give us anything truly useful. I think the more relevant trend is as follows. From 2000 to 2019, 46% of QBs drafted in the first round performed well enough for their teams to sign them to an extension. I think that stat, more than the 6th QB stat, is a more compelling argument that Nix will struggle to find success in the NFL.
Editing is excellent
Love the editing, i just subscribed. I think being 6th off the board isn't a big deal in this class. I mean i remember the draft with rg3 and luck but Russell Wilson ended up being a gem in the third round.
With how the league has changed in terms of quarterback development the league is very impatient with a quarterbacks success, i always think of matt hasslebeck saying after 4 or 5 years backing up favre and doug Pederson he still didn't feel ready to play staying qb in the nfl and look how he ended up. I get he was underrated, undrafted i believe so he was not as expensive if an investment, but still the impatience is insane. If you couple that with how many teams had to try to navigate with a back up last year, i think it lead to hysteria in this draft for quarterbacks causing guys to get over drafted.
However when you see guys like Purdy excel, you see #1 picks that are struggling to play at that level, and i mean Dan Marino was the 6th qb off the board but idk if that was talent i think it was because of the rumors he liked to hit the slopes, and crush fluffy bunnyhills of nose candy with his sniffer lol.
Anyways i think there a lot that goes into this, i feel you could make a video with other 6th qbs picked and other late round or undrafted guys that work. So i don't agree with you, but i also don't disagree.
But the editing is crisp and clean, well researched and you have a great voice. Keep up making up the criminally underrated content you deserve way more subs!
Why Dan catch a stray like that? 🤣 Great points all around!
You take don’t make sense. This year’s draft has been one of the most talented from the QB position. I believe Bo Nix was a steal. Come back to this comment in 6 months
As Marino shows, there is a difference between being the sixth quarterback taken, but you're still a first rounder, and being the sixth quarterback taken and you're a 4th rounder. The sixth quarterback taken narrative is extremely misleading.
Bro this channel is criminally underrated
6:44 the harsh truth is- The entire premise hinges on a fact relative to the QB being the 6th best QB in the draft.
So if in fact the analysts who have Nix as being the 1st-3rd best QB in the draft are correct, this whole argument is worthless.
The STATS and TAPE support the idea that Bo Nix is among the best in the top 6, and easily the best to run Sean Payton’s system. 🤷🏼♂️😉
@4:10 "Alabamas, Mr. football showcased his arm strength, mobilty and football IQ cementing his status as one of the top Qbs and prospects in the country." How you gonna say that then 5 mins later in the video completely change your mind? None of that is going to change. Other then that the presentation of the video was pretty good
Hey hey hey, that’s Tank Commander Ryan Finley to you and anyone better put some respect on it lol
People need to get off this kids back and give him a chance to acclimate himself to the NFL. The pressure has to be unreal for him and all of the rookie QBs. Bo Nix more so because for some reason everybody hates this guy and for what? If Denver puts some talent around him and establishes a running game he has a chance to shine.
You can't compare Nix to the 6th quarterback taken in the past 5 years because this was a completely different draft class! At worst Bo demonstrated 2nd round talent and the Broncos reached but if it works out no one will care! Last time 6 QB'S were taken in the first round the last one off the board was Dan Marino. I'm pretty sure that worked out alright in the end!
I’ll be here to comment when Nix wins rookie of the year.
Nix is 3 years older than Williams. Hell he is 3 years older than Colts' Richardson. He should be ineligible for ROY. LOL!
@@altg5708 hateraid!
College ball is college ball and the NFL is the NFL. If College mattered zappe would be greater, but he's forgotten about. I want Sean to be conservative with Nix in the first 9 games then turn it up week 11 through 18.
Sutton Patrick Franklin Humphrey Mims and Johnson. That wide receiver room is a lot deeper than most realize
Yeah but all those 6th quarterbacks tooken in those drafts weren’t a heisman finalist.
And they also weren't 25 years old lmao
@@youngmontmusicwhich Nix isn’t
@@usopenitentiary he almost is lmao but go off
@@youngmontmusic he literally just turned 24, my guy. It’s ok to be wrong 😂
@@usopenitentiary still old asf for a rookie quarterback
pookie bear dropped again
TJ from Denver. Full disclosure I have been a Broncos supporter through the good and bad from the time when they played in the old AFL at Bear Stadium. Videos like this are just nonsense designed to fill space because it's a slow period. Bo will be fine! I am looking forward to seeing his growth along with the definite challenges that will come his way. This rebuild should have started the day PM retired. And now that the weight of the RW trade is behind us we will have all of our draft picks going into next year and plenty of money to rebuild both sides of the ball. I can't wait to start enjoying Broncos football again with Bo being the QB for many years.
Statistically every quarterback that makes it onto an NFL roster is very good quarterback or they wouldn't make the roster. The difference between the great quarterbacks and the good quarterbacks have more to do with personal drive and ambition than any other factor. The great ones have self control and do not let the media provoke them. The great ones have unbelievable work ethics and inspire the team with the dedication and commitment to winning they show everyday in the time and preparation they exhibit to team mates. They take the initiative and watch extra game film, they constantly work to improve their physical fitness and strength to minimize the risk of injury. They prove they are a team leader in everything they do both on and off of the field. Being a great quarterback means being great at inspiring your team mates when the refs are extremely biased in how they are calling the game. Being a great quarterback means do to the volume of game film you watch each week allows you to see and exploit weaknesses of the team you are playing that week. Being a great quarterback means knowing how to manage the game clock in close games to give your team the upper hand winning by just using time or not using time as the situation dictates. This is what makes great quarterbacks and if you look at the entire history of the NFL not many quarterbacks selected in the first round have had great careers in the NFL. The NFL is a pressure cooker and it takes either a person that has tunnel vision and never watches sports news or someone who uses criticism as a motivator to prove his critics wrong!
Definitely subscribing bro, amazing quality.
The past is the past. Brady was #199 pick and he is the “goat” of all time. I agree with your analysis on QB’s and I am a die hard Bronco fan, I’m not set on ANY QB at the present time but I’m hopeful maybe Nix can be the new age “Elway”
This is definitely aging well so far
Nix always rises to the challenge!
This analysis has more holes in it than Swiss cheese at a shooting range.
And to double down none of you guys payed attention to Justin Herbert's draft scouting reports, people said he was a one read QB, slow on the trigger throws too high and was too staying in the picket too much. And here he is being praised.
Bo nix gonna shock a lot of people
Aged like fine wine
When Bo nix cooks this season remind me of this video
You are criminally underrated
Appreciate it 🙏
He's a decent prospect. For sure overdrafted but there are so many desperate teams.
2020 class may very well become this generations class of '83. No where near. But they have a start. If Burrow and Tua can stay healthy, Harbaugh will be great for Herbert. Holy shit did Love ever explode omto the scene late in the year. 2020 class is surely loaded
Can’t compare someone of Bo’s caliber, stat wise last year and 3rd heisman finalist, to those bums drafted 6th off board
So basically the thought process on this is “being the sixth picked QB is a superstition”. Nothing taken in the perspective of circumstances being put into, background on the player, or really anything football related but purely just the #6 😐
Too bad he was drafted 6th, the game today he looked good, but how can you overcome such a stat. Unlucky
The Broncos had to draft a quarterback, but with a 50 to 60 percent failure rate on quarterbacks, there was no sense in spending draft capital that they didn't have to trade up. Get what mccarthy? Reports from OTAs suggest that he is not any better than Nix if not maybe worse. But there's also no point in waiting when you're going to draft him anyway. You're not going to get a bunch of draft capital trading that much down from pick 12 . By all reports, Nix was considered a late first round early second round pick, so taking him at 12 is not ridiculous. It's not like they drafted a 4th or 5th round talent (as are the majority of these examples).
When you're 20+ years old in college you're a man amongst boys. The play in college is closer to HS ball then it is to NFL play.
Pretty much every power 5 school has NFL talent playing for them
@@jbeezy5 AND? The majority are not NFL players.
Hater's make people famous. That's a real fact
Hey some guy named Tom Brady had 6 QBs taken infront of him the draft and it worked out ok for him.
It doesn’t matter how many Qbs were taken infront of him. Maybe Bo is good maybe he sucks but the number of Qbs taken in front of him don’t matter
Funny watching people make up reasons to hate on a team that's already down. Same people arguing about pick position being important will try to argue about Purdy being a top 10 QB. What is it? Draft position or NFL production ? If it's NFL production why is it so hard to wait and stfu?
Lamar Jackson was the 32nd pick. Baker, darnold, Allen and Rosen were ahead of him. Allen is the only one you could argue is better and he was 7th, 3rd qb. Being the last qb drafted in the first round doesn't mean shit
When are teams gonna learn..smh
lotta commenters here didn't wait to finish the video before commenting lmao
The Denver Broncos died with Pat Bowlen. I love listening to these Walmart Generals fans cry a river because you will NOT overhype yet another QB reach by them. We did numerous 'TRUE' film studies on Nix. We found he consistently predetermines his throws, bails on plays far too much for our liking. What are we seeing now in camp? A QB NOT having the greatest camp as a passing QB because... drum roll... he is a one read QB who bails on his pocket. In Bo Nix defense, and much to the chagrin of the Wally Generals fans, the Walmart Generals have one of the most inconsistent o-lines in pass pro. You saw it last year, and it is rearing its ugly ass head once again in training camp... And this is with reinforcements using TEs! UGLY!
I love how even if Nix reaches his potential he’ll always be the 3rd best qb in his division. You can’t make it out of the AFC with a mid level qb in the AFC
Eh, Mahomes was supposed to be trash. So you never know until they actually play.
Why do you say that with such certainty? Not saying he’ll pass Mahomes or anything, but what has Herbert proven? I love Herbert but he has one playoff game/loss in his career. You never know how these players will end up, so might as well root for all of them to be better than the current generation
@@balzley he’s had F- level coaching for every season except his rookie year, and look at his stats with Harbaugh you’ll see how great he will be look how good Kaepernick was with far less arm talent, and Herbert has some wheels as well not Kaepernick speed but still way above average for QB
@@OTGEEZYdefinetly agree that coaching has held him back, but couldn’t you argue, similarly to Herbert, the right coaching would allow Bo to ball out? I feel like being the 6th QB makes people view him as the worst, but he had good strengths that will be highlighted with Payton which could potentially (emphasis on potentially) put him above Herbert.
@@balzley yah that’s a fair point cause I’d say Nix prolly has a stronger arm less accurate than Brees, but the Broncos actually were pretty close to the playoffs so there not as bad ppl think. No clue why there at the bottom 5 for power rankings
Bo Nix did NOT transfer to Oregon to be in a "new system". He transferred there to get AWAY from a NEW system & BACK into his OLD system...the one he had in his first two seasons at Auburn when Gus Malzahn was the HC. Malzahn's system of no huddle/hurry up play artificially elevates an offense & the stats of the QB since the defense can't freely substitute. When combined with the Air Raid system that isolates speed on the perimeters in matchups that favor the offense...especially when there is a talent discrepancy...it's almost inevitable that it will score huge numbers of points. Malzahn's offensive coordinator in Bo's freshman year was Kenny Dillingham. Dillingham was the OC at Oregon when Nix transferred there. Basically Nix left Auburn in 2021 because he struggled with new coach Bryan Harsin's pro style offense after Malzahn was fired & was benched temporarily by the new coach. Asked by reporters how he liked playing in that offense on his way out the door...one that asked him to make more than one or two reads...Nix described it as "a nightmare"
Nix played in EXACTLY the same offense in 4 of his 5 seasons in college. After Dillingham left for Arizona in Bo's final year, Oregon hired Will Stein to replace him as OC. He was hired with the understanding that he would run the same offense Nix had with Dillingham. That offense is notoriously bad for developing QBs for the NFL. How bad? NFL QB trainer Jordan Palmer who worked with Joe Burrow & Josh Allen, described it as having almost no value for QB development when he was talking about the struggles that current Broncos QB Jarrett Stidham had when he arrived in the league with the Patriots. Now...after working with Palmer & having been in the same QB room for 5 seasons with 4 pro bowl QBs plus Belichick, McDaniels & Payton...Stidham can read NFL defenses. It remains to be seen if Nix can, but it's doubtful he can as a rookie.
Research takes time...not doing it damages your credibility.
Great video!
Man, I watched this and was all ready to disagree and then you absolutely nailed it - odds are a late choice won't be good, and not just Marino - but in 2020 there were 5 starters, so why can't that be the case 4 years later? Each draft class is unique in its makeup - and given the way it played out, I'd be less surprised to see Bo prosper than the situation Penix has ended up in. A great video, as always!
I hear ya, but I don’t think Bo Nix should’ve been the 6th guy taken! I think atleast 2 teams ahead of the Broncos made terrible choices!
Great video
How many times do you have to show my boy from NC State getting absolutely destroyed 🥲 lol. Poor Finley. He tried
🤣🤣
JJ Mccarthy is so much worse, have yall read up on the news, even caleb williams had a terrible time at OTAs
This aged poorly. The kid looks more than legit
This is a stupid comparison. Makes no sense. The only ones that made the most sense was Howell and Marino. 1st and 2nd rds respectively. They were the best in their draft.
You are really comparing 4-6th round qbs to one even the biggest skeptics said was late 2nd round? That is when I realized the creator is completely unaware of the talent in the 2024 draft and is wasting my time because they can not provide value added analysis.
The real reason he won’t work out is because all of his physical traits including size are mid-average and his college stats were heavily inflated by the system/team he played on. Future check down artist at best
have you ever watched a sean payton coached team play football before?
I'm getting the feeling that this video isn't going to age well lol
yall aint lying to me this time........ as an Auburn fan I love him but yall talking about how great he is while forgetting his auburn streak is lwk glaze, but I do think he will be very good in the NFL
Did you forget development?
@@MahiMahi4757-zr9zf I get that, I was more joking abt how much of his Auburn career was a down
@@rycaruth8856after 2010 (and 13) you guys haven't done much honestly so meh.
Lmao so Nix is doomed because he was the 6th QB taken. Dang if only he was the 5th taken that wouldve changed everything he is as a player.
DONT COMPARE HIM TO DAN MARINO PLEASE!!🤣🤣🤣
The 6th QB taken really doesn't apply. He was the 12th overall pick and there's plenty of good QBs taken that late and even later. Dak, Hurts, Russ, Cousins,PURDY! So that really doesn't matter whatsoever. QBs can succeed in the right situation. As soon as you went there I stopped watching.
Bo will win go broncos DB4L
he really trying to grab at straws to bring down Nix 😂 he was drafted sixth, but who cares? How does that affect anything? He is one of the best in the class, if not the best imo. Brady, the GOAT, was drafted in the seventh round and “historically that trend” was broken. Nix will be great.
Bama Bo
History has not been kind to Oregon quarterbacks in the last 20 years taken in any round. # Joey Harrington
Have you been living under a rock? Justin Herbert????
@@taihalpern7342 One out of how many since Dan Fouts? Not good odds
@@richclay4209 Since Oregon started to become good and went to their first natty in 2008, 3 Oregon qbs have been drafted. One is a rookie (nix) and another is All-Pro Justin Herbert. Stop bringing up old historic qbs from a completely different oregon program who played under a different coach in a different era. In the modern Oregon era, there have been 3 nfl Duck QBs and 1/3 is already a all-pro player, and another is Bo Nix who’s only played one game. Bo Nix and Herbert weren’t even alive when Dan Fouts played but you want to act like since he also played for Oregon back in the day there’s some systematic qb curse within the program🤦♂️
The 6th qb is always cursed what!?!? Thats the dumbest argument in the world yes in the past they were bad notice how none of them were in the first round but nix is maybe bc they were bad and hes not
none of those 6 were champions
What?!? 😂
Click bait
Very dumb to compare the 6th qb in drafts to the 6th qb drafted in the 1st ROUND!!!
What a stupid CZcams page 😂
What a joke. What the ???? Does the #6 chosen in draft have to do with Bow Nix. Nix is the very best of his draft class by far. Nix is already scaring the rest of there division. Nix is a all pro Hall of Fame Quarterback. Broncos will make playoffs this year and possibly further. Bor Nix is way better than Elway was in his rookie season. He is perfect for his coach. I can't wait to see you hater's eat crow.... Ha ha.
Look bud, a lot of work obviously went into this video, but you aren't looking at it correctly. This was a once in a century kind of thing with covid. If it helps you, think of it as two or even THREE drafts classes put together at once. The talent and holdover was insane this year. There were 6 1st round QB prospects drafted. MAYBE Nix was a fringe 1st. JJ was probably a second rounder, but don't get it confused, this was just the best QB prospects of the last 6 years all declaring for the draft at the same time.
Dumb logic
This is such bad analysis lol
yea bro.. u lost me with this shit
These talking heads make hay ($$$) from other men's sweat, toil and blood. Best to tune them out - esp at this time of the season. Pass.
Oh blow it out your hood hah, danger RUST looked as bad or worse than any QB I've ever seen, it seemed he could not either understand our offenses or he couldn't see over the line of scrimmage..He got lucky on some crazy plays here and there but he had more 3 and outs than any QB we had since Flaco..he sucked. Let's Ride, our big wheels boys.
Bo Nix will be mid, but Payton will make him look great
Hahahaaa.....
Bo Nix will be a bust … his Auburn stint showed me he can’t handle rising pressure or the big moment . Him playing on OREGON helped camouflage that a little bit . But if I can recall there was even a critical game at the end of the season where he shit the bed
And what are you saying now? Still sticking with being wrong?
I think bo nix will be a kenny picket
😂 hardly