Esab Sentinel A50 Review and comparison to Viking 3350
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- We are in the shop again today checking out the Esab Sentinel A50. This is a totally unsponsored review! I’ll tell you what I think and how it compares to my Viking 3350 mask.
Check out the full Viking 3350 review here-
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Hey there, thanks so much for taking the time to review our hood, we appreciate you!
Esab rebel is a bad motha
Just ordered a Lincoln Viking last week. After seeing the ESAB here, I really wish I'd seen all the features beforehand. I'm sure the Viking helmet will be amazing but, I'm really digging the ESAB now. Dammit...
Looks like a fantastic product @ESAB!! I'll have to check you guys out in the near future!
Just ordered your esab a-50 I cant freaking wait till it gets here. Edit: i noticed light leaking inside the hood where the two arms connects the cartridge to the shell And where you push the tab in that holds the lens to the shell. My flashlight doesn’t lie. plus its way too bright wayyyy too bright. Have to have my hood on 13 for around 120 amps. Cmon.. really? Also the lens sits very loose on the hood. I can see dust and weld metal dots getting inside the hood and sticking on the filter, sensors, and the solar cell. Which! Is partly blocked by the way the shell is shaped. Honestly very disappointed. Wished I put some thought into my purchase. Please fix these issues.
U better pick him up bruh!
Esab sentinel sucks and i tell everyone who sees mine not to buy it. Thoughtless garbage. Having owned an Eye-tech for 15 years i am bitterly disappointed
I have the Sentinel 50. It’s a great hood. Comfortable for long time use. Other features are 4 sensors, so it detects the arc from about anywhere. It also has a solar cell plus the batteries, and tells you when the batteries are low. I’ve had this for over a year, and no battery change yet.
Awesome Mel! Yeah it’s a pretty sweet hood I’m glad to hear the battery has lasted that long. Thanks for watching!
I love how you say why can’t anyone put those two hoods together! Well said
Good honest review. I'm leaning towards a Lincoln also. Optical clarity matters when you get older, like myself. Not buying it on Amazon however, going to a brick and mortar so I can get local support, I hope. Thanks a lot for taking the time to compare.
The comfort of the esab is absolutely amazing. And don't fool yourself, the grind button is probably the best feature on the hood. Extremely well designed and thought through.
The esab. -2 out of 10. sucky product.
@@Mikey-ym6ok lol. I seriously doubt you have ever even used one. I have had mine for over 3 years and can absolutely without hesitation say, you're a clown.
The 4th gen 3350 has the outer button for grind mode now and also has the same blinking light to let you know your in grind mode, and as a side note also comes in matte black
I've owned that esab helmet for 3 years as a welder working mon.- fri. It was a great helmet and still works today but after about a year of weekly welding, you will be able to bend them corners with the head gear inward. After 2 years they go all the way in with the flexibility from heat warp. Also after about 3 years, that front lense will not seal gases as you weld due to the warping itself and makes it harder to replace lenses after time. Bought myself a Lincoln 4c 3350! Esab did its job but for $20-$25 per outer lense? No thank you. Great video by the way!
worked 2 years with that hood never had those problems o.O what the fuck are you welding bro? xD some THICCC shit i guess 300amp welds? xd
Where i work its nonstop gmaw welding so i assume i wont have heat warping issues. Are you welding fcaw or smaw or something?
Thanks for comparing the two. I am thinking about buying a welding helmet for my son for his birthday. As you said, the A50 has a lot of cool features (that touchscreen is the bombdiggity). But the 3350 has the much larger view area and that 4c lens. I was leaning towards the 3350 and you helped push me over, lol.
Thanks for watching Neal, I think your son will be very happy with the 3350. The ESAB is a great choice too, and definitely a “sexier” helmet but when you’re actually welding, give me the 3350 every time! Hope he likes it!
Thanks for the honesty. Personally, I’ve learned in life that I can’t trust touch screen. I like knobs on my equipment, appliances, etc. I like the headgear on the ESAB better though.
Yeah I’m kind of a “simpler is better” kind of person too. Thanks for watching!
Bought the optrel vega view 2.5 and holy crap has my welding life changed... its amazing. No question clearest lens ive ever looked through
i have a viking 3350 it got me thru welding school and into a new welding job💪🏾 thank u for your review
Its like you made this video just for me. I have the 3350 but not the 4C. was thinking about the Esab because my buddy has one and likes it. for literally the same reasons as you, I am going to get the new 4C 3350. Thank you for making this.
just looking to up grade my lincoln viking and viewing area and clarity are key ,positive with esab is external grind button as have to use air fed system
The filter cartridge size of both helmets is the same. If you want the gear of the sentinel, is only around 35 dollars for the shell and the headgear, plus around 10 dollar more for a pack of clear lenses. All you need to do is to find a way to attach the Viking adf cartridege to the A50 shell, which should not be too difficult. The opposite is also true and you can put the sentinel adf on the viking shell if you do a little bit of mod.
After a harrowing helmet failure (sub $50 Antra) I want a good lid. Last paragraph of users manual said "We recommend a use for a period of 3 years, but no longer than 5 years. " Thanks for posting!
Update of 2020, July 9: I thought the "check battery" button didn't work so I found some batteries to replace those in the Antra. The battery light still didn't light. I bought fresh ones and put those in. Everything worked. I would have had the same experience with a $200 helmet. My bad
I have the same helmet. I was looking at the viking 3350
I love my 3350. I have been looking at trying the new optrel crystal 2.0 or the speedglas 9100xxi. I am a junkie for new gear so I am fine saving up to afford one of those. Thanks for a Great video.
Thanks Mark, I was tempted to buy an Optrel as well only reason I didn’t was because none of my local welding shops carry clear lenses or any other parts for them and I didn’t want to have to order everything. Thanks for watching!
@@farmertylerranch4399 yeah the lense availability is a big deal and I love how available the lenses for the 3350 are. I figured when I eventually get one of these others I would us my 3350 for stick and mig and use the other one for tig welding then the lense issue is not much of one.
That’s smart. You can use headlight restore on clear lenses too and it makes them like new. I’ll probably do a video on that soon
XXI isn't worth the money I have had one and sold it and went to the XX the true colour thing doesn't interest me and when you start throwing fancy stuff in em they don't last
I can’t find a better auto dark helmet than my Lincoln Viking. That thing has been dead nuts reliable over the last six or so years and I have abused the piss out of it! Love the sensor response and the clarity through the window. I’ve used it for every operation known to welding aside from underwater of course lol. Thing has been a champ! I recently tried setting up one of the higher end Miller lids strictly for tig welding and I can’t stand the damn thing. The sensors suck and the window is grainy or something. Just not a fan of it... love millers machines, not a fan of their gear... I would love to try out one of these sentinels sometime. I think they have a lot of good ideas with that hood but maybe need a bit more refinement. Excited to see what they have in store in the future! Thanks for the video! God bless!
I've used a Lincoln Electric (not sure exact model, looks just like the 3350 though) for a good 4 years, held up well. Love the big viewing area. Comfortable. New job gave me an A50 so I gave it a shot. It's...ok. I weld aluminum so don't care for the grind button since I never have sparks flying when grinding. The viewing area is ok. The sensitivity though drives me NUTS. I work with 3 other guys building RV walls and so when I'm done and jump up to help them their welders always set my hood off even if they're not very close to me or I'm not even looking in their direction. Also, the knobs on the side to adjust the "fold down" or whatever you'd call it always loosen on mine and it drives me crazy having to tighten them all the time. I'll take my old Lincoln electric over this fancy touchscreen one for sure.
I appreciate this review. Im pretty much sold on the 3550.
Brazil welding !! 🇧🇷 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Honestly the review was awesome. My instructor in welding school was a weldporn guy. Scott was his name. Sponsored by esab so any chance he got he was letting students use his sentinel. But I also used the 3350 from a bud of mine in school. The sentinel is awesome but the 3350 was just a tad better. So I ended up getting a pipeliner to be cool. Now the headgear is straight cheeks. But I'm going to get the 3350 because it's time to upgrade from that ol small lens.
Thanks Neil yeah they’re both great hoods! Can’t really go wrong either way but sounds like you agree with me!
Just got the sentinel A50. It’s pretty awesome
I've used both hoods the sentinel is very comfortable on your head but when it comes to visibility I personally like the viking 3350 because of the bigger lens and the blue tint
I could see myself blink when the grind light blinks and completely miss it or just forget all about or then go try to weld something.
I think I prefer your one , yes the other looks nice and futuristic but it looked like you light was limited , I say if it's it broken doesn't need fixing and you can buy supply you need with the money you'd pay for it
The Lincoln isn’t rated for overhead welding because the sparks will melt into the square frame of the viewing screen. I’m about to buy the ESAB for that reason and everything else you mentioned too.
I've spent 6 years welding a ton of overhead and with my head wedged in all sorts of crappy spaces, with 5P, 7P+, 70-18, 80-18 and 110-18 with the Lincoln and it's still going strong.
I think the spacer trooper look is to fit a respiratory system under it without being to tight
if you see this get the A50 its the best thing ive ever worn and if you want to feel like you're not wearing one at all then get it. i have both currently and the Lincoln is nice because of the huge screen but feel like you have a brick attached to your head
I have the Esab, the outer protectors are about £30 for 5 pack. The Lincoln’s are about £10 a 5 pack. The helmet tends to roll over and rest directly on the screen scratching it very easily. Touch screen is a little bit of a gimmick, you need to take your gloves off to use it. I never change the setting anyway. It is a comfortable helmet though.
Never understood people who rest their helmets face down on the lens. Are you actively trying to scratch it? Takes the same amount of time to rest it right side up. But hey, if you want to change your lens more by all means. Not my money
@@Iwontreadyourreply the Esab is prone to rolling over and resting on the lense.
the only think a viking is lacking compared to the esabs stuff is the lack of a grind button which no i have seen one i have to have one just makes em more versatile
Got this helmet last year and love it!!! Dont care about price it's worth it. Local NAPA had it for 260.
Yes it is a sweet helmet. That’s a great price you found!
I have a coworker who gutted the centennial and put a standard #10 shade lense
Funny most welding hoods come with a highly flamable hood bag!
I remember I had a Kobalt hood came with a nylon mesh bag. Had it laying in my booth and after 4 hours that thing was fucking gone! Lol absolutely riddled with holes. I wasent happy to say the least. Pack the bags away
I think the trick is to take it out of the bag before you start welding..🤣
I also prefer better lense clarity and size on the Viking.
Thanks for sharing.
The new a60, 👍 solved a lot of this. No touch screen though, better with gloves on anyway.
Great video, I have the Viking to, great hood
The Esab is cool but the cover lens will scratch real easy. Definitely need a bigger lens on the Esab.
Sweet welds by the way
Loved your review. Thank you Sir
with the clear lense, what’s the tint and color of the puddle? like clearish?
U friend U borrowed that esab helmet from. needs 2 buff& pollish the front guard... great vid..
How do the arc colors compare. I have a sentinel. I like everthing about it except the head gear. The knobs keep coming loose. And the outside cover lens scratches so easy. Esab kinda aqua blueish green. Never tried the 4c
Arc colors are actually pretty similar, the 4c is a little bluer than the a50 although it’s way more noticeable in the light stage. I agree about the cover lens scratching too easy, noticed that the first time I set it down, great point! Thanks for watching!
I had the same problem with the headgear. Im switching to an optrel panoramaxx
I've had that thing on my wish list for months... 😉
It’s pretty sweet! Thanks for watching Chris
Lincoln Viking 3250D is the more equivalent helmet. Same price as the sentinel
I agree Lincoln Viking is really nice
which one is better for stick/mig welding?
I'm sure he is stoked now that the 3350 comes with all the features he was talking about liking from the sentinel. Both good hoods! I love my 3350. Might try out the other hood too
How does protecting your retina so you can see your grandkids faces one day make your "whuss"?
Interesting review, I am looking at both of these hoods, but where I am the lincoln is 325 euros and the ESAB is 279 euros. Those are the cheapest local prices I could find. When it comes to build quality, which do you feel is more robust? Which one is more likely to be functional in 10 years?
They are both built well. When it comes to longevity I really can’t say for sure. My guess is the Lincoln would give you less problems over time due to its simpler design (dials instead of touchscreen, standard clear lens, etc). Hope that is helpful, good luck with your decision!
Will a breathing filter fit under the A50 ?
I will stay with Lincoln viking and the knobs. There is a reason welding shields have a protective lens on the inside . Sparks will find a way in to the hood speaking from experience. I had the sentinel and a spark landed on touchscreen and didn't work properly anymore..
Good point hadn’t thought of that! Thanks
Great looking hood !
Thanks for such a great unbiased review. Makes a nice change.
A mate of mine has just bought the Miller Digital Elite. He went for that as there more room underneath for his airfed mask. Have you tried the Miller? What did you think of it?
Haven’t had a chance to try it
You want the air fed one it's so comfy with inner in
Why would they put a touch screen? Now i gotta take my gloves off... lame
I was thinking the same thing
Well idk about you but I set it for what I need and get to work. I don’t find myself having to change the shade. The grinde mode is what I needed to change without taking my gloves on.
I think u should of shower us what it looks like to weld wt ur Lincoln bud
Here's the truth the Viking 3350 has a small viewing area it second largest then the EASAB but the King of all of them and I know as I own all of them is the Miller Digital infinity elite largest viewing area in the market to date way clearer then even the Lincoln 3350 with the C4 lens
As for the hoods performance it all depends what you weld if you weld on a bench all day they all work great but when you start to weld out of position this is where they all fall short of the Miller as the Miller has this little thing called X-Mode where it uses the magnetic pulse from the welder to trigger the lens not the arc so when your a Motorsports welder or welding in a pipe rack you can still weld even though the light sensors have not got a direct light to trigger then This makes the Miller a hands down winner if you have to weld anywhere but on a bench all day Truth be told my Esab is used for T.I.G on the bench welding Headers , Aluminum bungs things like that but when I go to weld chassis Roll cages it Miller all the way
Don't waste your money ether one of these BUY A Miller Digital Infinity Elite
The thing is a tank. Which makes it a loser!
@@ajwilson313 Dream on wear it everyday that EASB POS is nothing but a joke
The Miller is heavy as hell and looks green. I had two guys work in my shop with those.
@@darthvapor3272 The ESAB is a POS its good for a guy on a bench but if you have to weld in a rack and cant look right at your weld it flashes you all the time the Miller will never do it period
The only thing good about the ESAB hood is the outside grind button but the shell is so soft it is not easy to push on your head
When your a shop monkey it the hood for you if you actually go weld in the real world you will see Miller all the way!! As for it being heavy it might be a little more but for the bigger window and X Mode are worth it all day long I got both hoods with in a week of one an other and the ESAB was first one I got and now it sits in its bag cause I don't like the fact that you have to put lens on the outside cause it hit everything well its up sucks unlike the Miller
@@13SKULLWRECKER just crushed the ADF on my Viking 3350 and I was looking at other options. I've taken my 3350 out in the field and it performs! Thanks for your input though, no a50 for me. I need something reliable. I spend alot of time in the shop but there can be times that I spend months out in the field. Maybe I'll just buy another Viking.
I have the Viking and have the sentinel on order woot
Thank you for a no bullshit review said what needed said and non the extra bullshit
thanks for the info
What about the a60? 1/1/1/1 and a 40% larger viewing area than the a50....
I looked at the title... then read your comment. Decided you are one of those guys...
Which helmet feels lighter on your head?
where is the fresh air system?
Can you please review the Miller T94?
Great review 👍👍
Thanks Pete!
Where are the test results that prove either helmet protects the wearer from all rays encountered whilst welding?
Inverter welders start with a brighter spark, and perhaps using a cheaper helmet is not advised?
Who knows.
So literally, both are excellent welding hoods, it's just a matter of preference?
Pretty much. I’d give the nod to the Lincoln but not by much
Dude, if you ever get tired of others using your hood, throw a cheater lens in there! Once people see that most times they just put it right down. Btw it maybe just the angle of the filming of the video, but you look as though your face is pretty close to the weld. Now don't get me wrong, I ain't the safety police or anything! I would never stop someone from killing themselves if that's what they want. Not my business! However, i had no one to teach me to weld early on so all i had was bad habits. Then an old timer showed me two things in particular that helped alot. First, with the work in front of me I should stand up straight and square to the work. Then with my torch hand (mig gun here) and my elbow resting against my ribs, this creates the triangle of distance I should have while welding. Not that I should weld in this position but just as a gauge of how far my head should be from the work when possible.
It's easier on your back, your face is out of the smoke which is bad for your lungs and eyes and a smaller viewing lens in your hood at a distance shows alot more area around your work. Which brings me to the second thing. The shade and size of your lens.
Ok you like the large viewing area. Alot of people do. But I think it's only because most people are claustrophobic to some degree. When welding you can only see a very small area around the bead anyway so the large viewing area doesn't help us see any better. So, it's probably a mental thing. Claustrophobia. Nothing to be ashamed of, but something to overcome!
But from a practical perspective if you have a small lens and want to see more you pull your head back far enough to see what you NEED to see. This is where shades come into play. If using a fixed lens or auto darkening, when looking through the clear lens get your distance. I'd start with a shade 12 and weld. If you find you have to lean in the weld to see it, change to a 10. Still have to lean in? Keep going until you can see without hurting your eyes. And remember stick, mig and TIG all have different shade requirements. One shade does not fit all!
If you get the right shade but still can't see the puddle without leaning in then try cheaters! That's what they are for. They bring the work closer to you so you don't have to get closer to the work!
You have pretty good technique, those beads look really good!
Like I say, you do what suits you best, who the "f" am I anyway! You may be plenty far away and it may just be the angle of the video, but someone did me a solid and I'm just trying to pay it forward. Hope you don't mind.
I'm liking your videos. I hope you keep them coming!
Peace
Thanks Patrick I’m glad you posted that. I too really didn’t have any formal training so I’m always glad to hear advice from others. I might give a cheater lens a try just to see if it helps. I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel, thanks a lot for watching and commenting!
Cheers! Very informative comment. JourneymanB from Alberta Canada. Esab 🤟
Anybody knows how long the battery of Sentinel A50 lasts considering the LED panel that seems to consume a lot of power?
ESAB says 800 hours plus solar charging to help keep batteries fully charged.
Love this video! Can I apply for a re-post?
Glad you liked it!
Lincoln it is
I think you’ll be happy with it. Thanks for watching!
Ive asked this question to A50 owners and ive never gotten a response...does it fit a large 3m half mask respirator with pancake filters while the hood is down?
With pancake filters it's a really tight fit, you can get it to fit if you adjust the shell all the way away from your face, but personally I don't like doing that. I do however use the low profile miller welding half mask under this hood. It has flush mount filters, the straps are freaking cheesy but it fits better under the A-50 with it close to your face.
Nice‼️
Is the touch screen actually better? Or, is just muscle memory with knobs faster and easier.
What I don’t like about the touch screen is you have to remove gloves to use it
I just bought the miller elite and i like it better then the esab..
Nice appearance, round and round
can you wear a 3m mask with p100 filters in this hood or is there not enough space.
On the Viking yes, I never tried with the A50
@@farmertylerranch4399 thank you know I know which one to get.
2022 price update:
$375
Still doable for me.
Dude!!! You didn't show anything about the Lincoln!!!
Hey buddy my son started welding school Monday. He wants the ESAB A 50. Do you think it’s a good helmet for him to wear at school? Have a good one
Hey Jacky it’s a good hood for sure. The only problem I think he could have with it is constantly scratching up the clear lens when he sets it down. The way those are designed the clear lens takes a real beating whereas other hoods have a lip around it that protects it. Tell him good luck!
Farmer Tyler Ranch Thanks buddy. Have a good one
Get a 9100XX fantastic hood
stefan brown thanks. I’ll check it out. Have a good one
That's you decided then, the Lincoln. 😀🌹🌿🌹
Yes
Got the volume all the way up...still hard to hear!
Shop. good review. thanks
Very cool!
Good review
Thanks
I prefere speedglass 9100
I don't know about y'all, but when you're in go fast mode i definitely forget that my hoods in grind mode and I get a nasty surprise when I start to lay my bead 😂😂
Yep been there!!!
Do it all the time lmao
That's a bad habit to get into lmao
Which one of them have a bluer color in real life? The videos I have seen shown like that Esab light is whiter and the Lincoln bluer. Is this true in real life? If you could get the Esab cheaper than the Lincoln, would you say that the Esab is the better one?
Viking is bluer looking where the sentinel looks more yellow/green
$300? Would have bought it already. Everywhere I look it's $650. Most of the higher end miller/Lincoln shit is around $400
Get a optrel crystal 2.0 trust me
Picked up an esab for $200. Brand new
Awesome that’s a great price!
I like your beard bro
sound quality so poor I cant understand it
I cannot stand small viewing ports.
nobody in the comments section has played HALO
my heart hurts.... when i see a expensive mask like that used in MIG (shit) welding.... Too much metal sparks in the beauty lens. T-T
Right... MIG is "shit". Mean while everything around you utilizes that process.
If it saves your eye it’s worth 300 dollars
Lol touch screen. Not necessary in any way shape or form when a simple button will do the trick and be less likely to stop working over time. MAIN reason you don’t need a bloody touch screen in a welding helmet is cost. A $100 hood will do the same thing as a $700 hood. Protects your eyes. Don’t be fooled. More money doesn’t always mean better.
A50 shits on the Viking
ESAB Clear 5/Pack Clear Front Cover Lens for Sentinel A50 Helmet $36.99...($7.39 EACH?...). F#*K THAT,lol.....most must pass. the lincoln 3350 clear lens STANDARD size....16-Pack 4.5"X5.25"" $18.99 ($1.18 EACH) PLUS 4C Blue CLEAR light Technology....
hi i like your videp's only the sound is very bad
Thanks I’m working on it!