Kinda simple.. if the HOA has a security firm on retainer, and they FAILED to keep trespassers out, whose fault is that? It's not the home owners, it's the HOA.
Vehe mence I mean.. I agreee but that would be murder by arson 🤷🏽♂️😂..again I agree as that was my first thought..not too sure what that says about me 🤔😂
Go to court and have a judge throw out all the fines on the grounds of extortion. Then sue the HOA for the loss you have suffered because of their actions.
I can't seem to delete this channel. - the thing about that - people who had their HOA sell their homes had it happen because they don’t fight it. Reality, it’s not their property to sell. Legally they have no authority. Until a home is paid off it belongs to the mortgage company. I saw a story on you tube where the home owner was going through bankruptcy, had not filled or gone to court yet. They told their mortgage company and they sent their lawyer to court to stop them. It was, for the reasons above. Lawyer was interviewed and said no one has the right to sell another’s property to collect fines or due to lack of payments like HOA dues. All they are allowed to do is place a lien on the home. Then said an individual can sell the property if the monies owed exceed the cost of the home - before all fines for none payment and lawyer fees. They have to go to court to get permission to do so first. They cannot claim that the lawyer fees will exceed the price of the home because most lawyers for HOA’s are on retainer. After a sale because the owner failed to act - the HOA can only take the dues owed, no additional money such as fines. Just like in forecloses it’s the industry standard. You take the home of someone who couldn’t pay for it means they can’t afford the fines so they are dropped. The HOA can only take what’s owed and the rest of the money goes either to the mortgage company or the old owner. A lot of people think they need to hire a lawyer to file their cases with the courts or are embarrassed and don’t fight it. That is the reason why HOA’s have gotten away with this stuff.
HOA Policy: Charge 'em for the lice, extra for the mice Two percent for looking in the mirror twice Here a little slice, there a little cut Three percent for sleeping with the window shut When it comes to fixing prices There are a lot of tricks I knows How it all increases, all them bits and pieces Jesus! It's amazing how it grows!!!
It's obvious that there is someone on that board of HOA that wants that house!!! 🤔I think that they should do a full on investigation, and then charge those folks in the HOA for fraud!
I agree.....3 CASH offers with no Sale? Someone on the HOA, is trying to get this House for Cheap or trying to Buy and Flip it, for a Profit! Seize the house for unpaid fines......Buy it, For the cost of the unpaid fines and a little extra....Then sell it, AT a Market Value...for a Profit!
@@djlowtek Not in my world you buy new construction without HOA you just have to shop around, and if you compare old construction against the new you can see that older homes have much more solid build than their newer counter parts, specifically to building materials. Besides most of HOAs properties are cookie cutter style and who in the hell wants to live in that, give me a home with some character.
@@djlowtek While difficult in these times, you’re statement is not entirely true. I just bought a newly constructed home on a half acre of land with no HOA. They are out there it just takes time, effort and a little bit of luck 😊. I was determined to not buy a home without anHOA. Plus mowing a half acre every 3 weeks is good exercise lol
@@hermanrogers1325 especially since HoA are usually closed off neighborhoods at least around here. there is almost no reason to find yourself in an HoA unelss you are directly going there lol
The unit owner is responsible for the acts of his guests, visitors, tenants and guests of his tenants. How is the HOA supposed to know that the people living in the unit are not tenants or relatives or guests of the unit owner? Why didn't the unit owner call the police or initiate court proceedings to regain possession of the premises through eviction? The HOA doesn't own the unit; the HOA has no legal standing to evict a squatter; only the unit owner can do that. You clearly don't know WTF you're talking about. Stop posting opinions about things you don't understand; it only makes you look foolish, stupid and ignorant.
He needs to sue the HOA, he is not responsible for the people who broke into his home and destroyed. The HOA needs to go after the people who broke into the home.
HOA is only responsible for what their contract says, but if that contract violates your property rights protected under the constitution then that contract is illegal.
Bobbi Klein I rented a home in Las Vegas run by a hoa. I worked in the office and to do inspections on homes. I heard what fines could be and it was outrageous. Never again. The offense wet so ridiculous I could not believe it.
The problem is they are backed by the government. In a free market, everything in an HOA would have to be voluntary and consensual, so the rules could only be changed on a specific property within the association, if the homeowner agrees to the change. The only purpose of them in a free market would be to segregate communities based on various preferences, so very few people would belong to one.
Bobbi Klein Big Brother isn't "watching" you... He's holding a knife to your throat while he breaks open your piggy bank, and steals your life's savings!
Myphonyaccount, you damn right. The fact of the matter is the squatters are doing the same thing somewhere else! By the time you go through the eviction process your heads spinning! By then you're just grateful you got them out regardless of how much it cost you! There are bad landlords true, but there are far more deadbeats working the system!
@@adunce.5422 Make them illegal! We the people should have a say. Every place already has City & County govts, why add HOA on top of that? There should be a referendum or a vote in an election.
@@travelnomad2128 Uh... Well, people choose to be in HOA’s, all you’d be doing is restricting people’s freedom of choice. The government doesn’t regulate these entities, so...
I owned a house with an HOA.....once. Never, ever, again. If a property has an HOA, that is an absolute deal killer, I won't even consider it. People will eventually learn.
@@PAIDFOR50 Sorry, but you're wrong. We've built our house on acreage. I don't give a damn about "neighborhood" and especially an HOA. There are options on having nice houses without these scammers.
@paidfor... Moron I live in Orange county between damn Clemente and Laguna Beach. No HOA 3 blocks from the beach. Beautiful neighborhood and no morons talking is what colors we can paint our houses or park in our drive ways. How stupid are you? You've paid fire nothing you own nothing lol
@belltowndaisy I'm seriously considering it. Insurance prices are outrageous, civil rights are constantly violated, the police are now legalized gangs, and the country is run by lunatics afraid of an orange clown.
Something wrong with society when people get fined and life turned upside down because of other people's actions. The criminals have more rights than good people 😔
I read a story about an HOA in AZ that was finding squatters to move into privately owned homes in order to rack up fines to take the house and rent/sell it themselves.
This is how houses within HOA's should be Once it's sold the house is no longer in the HOA and the new buyers have a choice to opt into the HOA or tell the association "we're not interested"
Let's call the HOA what it is: The prison warden who tells "free" home owners what they can do and when they can do it. Those gates come at a cost.!!! I pray God helps this man overcome the extortionists.
The homeowners association has the responsibility for maintaining the neighborhood. Sounds to me like the owner has a lawsuit on his hands because the homeowners association failed to protect his property. Just a thought rolling through my head.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 but they act like it and paper work lead to them and someone needs to take the unnecessary fines money hit. Am I the only who thinks this a giant fucking joke. Pay fine keeps money in HoA pocket so they can keep a robbing ppl who actually earn there money for living and not nickle and dime ppl (at a much larger scale) I'm sorry there a few things I cant put up with and nickle and diming ppl
Is one of them. I live in California where grocery bags now cost the consumer and I will still now ask for help out to my car even for a gallon of milk. If you're making me pay 10 cents a bag you can pay your employee 10 dollars an hour to carry to the truck of my car.
@@phillipfessenden7705 good job on being a lazy piece of shit then. The only people who should ask for help out are the disabled/elderly. Making a courtesy clerk carry out your shit hurts other customers not the business because they now how to wait longer and bag their own groceries. Besides you only have to pay for bags if you don't bring your own.
The hoa here tried to break my back gate down. The board member peered over the fence and found out how big of a mistake he was about to make when he was staring down the barrel of a 12 guage double barrel shotgun. Aint seen him since. Although he kept saying he had the "right to inspect" my back yard. Which was a crock
Isn’t it ironically these people formed HOA so that they can keep the value of their homes high only to turn buyers off because of the crimes and extortion tactics of HOA?
They don't send you the notices on purpose. They waited 3.5 years to send me a second notice of late fees because I paid late in 2014 when I got stationed in Germany. It racked up almost $500 in "admin" fees. Funny thing is I continued to pay on time every 6 months not even knowing I had a late fee. When I confronted them about it they told me, "oh well we sent it to the real estate management company, they never let you know?". So that was supposedly the first notice and then the second notice came 3.5 years later when I moved back to try and sell the house. They do it on purpose.
@Cyndi Rothrock But it's being done by this HOA! All the more reason for this gentleman to sue the HOA-He has an excellent case against them for multiple violations on THEIR part! And he needs to sue for a big 8-figure sum at least!
@@TeslaBoy123 You don't know WTF you're talking about. HOA stands for Homeowners' Association. An HOA is a legal entity consisting of ALL the homeowners. The homeowners themselves ARE the HOA. They elect from among themselves a board of directors to manage the property owned in common by the HOA. If the homeowners don't like the way the board is running things, they can remove them and elect a new board. Most HOA boards hire a professional property manager to advise them, hire contractors that provide services to the HOA such as landscaping, painting, accounting, billing, etc., and run the daily operations of the HOA. The dues paid by the homeowners are used to cover the operating expenses of the HOA and maintain reserves required by law to pay for the repair and replacement of roofs, streets, fences, and other HOA property. The members of the board are all volunteers and serve without pay or compensation. None of the dues go into their pockets, contrary to your ridiculous claim that the HOA is engaged in "scam ripoff legal extortion." Furthermore, any fines collected by HOA goe into the operating budget, not into anyone's pocket.
Wrong. You don't know WTF you're talking about. The directors on an HOA board are unpaid volunteers elected from and by the homeowners. All the assessments and fees that are collected go into the HOA's operating and maintenance accounts, not into any board member's pocket. These are corporate accounts, not personal accounts. Typically, an HOA board hires a professional property management company to manage the day-to-day operations of the HOA, issue monthly invoices, keep the books, and advise the board. By law, HOA accounts are audited annually and the auditor's detailed reported is distributed to the homeowners. So you're claim that HOA boards are lining their pockets is ignorant bullshit.
I understand EXACTLY What you're saying... And I Agree 100%... Sometimes? You just got to do, what you have to do to "Correct" a bad situation... He's CLEARLY Not from New Jersey or New York...
roy hoco Well said (Kudos). There's no way I'm waiting for the justice system to... not do anything except assist the criminal. If they break into my house, regardless if I'm living there or not, It's time for a brutal eviction.
In a case like this, I would deliver the "eviction notice" at about 1400fps. As for the HOA, it would be a real shame if something should happen to their records . . .
This is EXACTLY why I've never lived in an HOA and never will! I watched my parents go through all kinds of stupidity because the HOA people are power-hungry and do not understand why they are there in the first place. These same people probably complain about Politicians when they are even worse in some cases!
We just got fined because our trash can is visible from one side of gate when they drive through the cult de sac. And before that they measured the gravel on side of house and was off by an inch. HOA’s are Ridiculous!!!
HOA doesn’t protect anything, it is a criminal organization that is designed to extort homeowners for money and set up traps in the form of “rules” so that people would break them and then charge them with fines! HOA is nothing but a crime syndicate that operates much in the same way as the Mafia does that charges business owners a monthly fee for “protection!”
I'm not even IN the HOA that is suing me for "back dues" of $5,400. They keep losing in court so they just keep appealing. I can't even sell my home with a lawsuit on it.
I know this story is slightly different than yours but maybe it will give you hope. business.time.com/2011/06/06/homeowner-forecloses-on-bank-of-america-yes-you-heard-that-right/
You already pay taxes. The city has code enforecement. After that, you are paying someone even more money to tell you what to do based on their opinions. 😂😂😂😂😂 No thanks!
I know. HOAs are redundant, no purpose at all. They're created to pay salaries of useless ppl, sitting on their butts terrorizing homeowners. Gestapo in a word.
Not only is the homeowner criminally violated by the squatters, but also by the laws that required him to go through a formal eviction process AND he's being criminally violated by the HOA. Seems like the HOA can arbitrarily assess fines without telling the homeowner about it. In this case, there are two HOAs attacking him.
If it's about property values then the HOA FAILED as they are blocking the sale of a home...what they rather the guy strip it and board it up and walk away?
If only the HOA actually did something about squatter prevention to begin with... Which would make sense in regard to neighbourhood security and property values. But that's expecting an HOA to act in the interest of their neighbourhood and not just their own wallet. I bought my home out from under an HOA at a foreclosure auction. So the bank who owned it, sold it directly to me. The HOA isn't anywhere on the notarised paperwork. They have no authority about anything with regard to my property, but that sure doesn't stop them from trying. I don't even bother sending a copy of the deed and purchase papers to debt collectors or the court. I just flat out tell them that the HOA needs to provide evidence that I have a contract with them. Which they can't so the stuff just goes away for a while. When eventually someone at the HOA "discovers" that I haven't paid dues or other shit and then it all starts again. It costs their members thousands in legal fees just because the HOA keeps on screwing up. Much like they did at the foreclosure auction.
I'm sure now he will have even more problems selling the home because a normal or should I say reasonable person wouldn't want to live under that HOA. As for me personally, I would never live in an HOA neighborhood because I don't like neighbors telling me what I can or can't do. I own my home and it is mine to do with what I want.
Agreed.... you think if you call the police they are all arrested. But if they can "live" in the home long enough to claim residency.... they are somehow protected. It makes no sense.
@@DashCamCinema I think it’s like 30 days. Now air bnb owners are getting squatters. That’s why many now only have 29 day contracts. If they aren’t out on day 29 the police have the legal right to remove them.
Sipping $900 alcohol out of their $200 beer mugs, eating $200 lobster off their Platinum coated plates inside their $400k house. HOA's are extortions for free income.
Sounds like it is time to void the HOA. I would ever buy a home in an HOA neighborhood, way too often they are taken over by petty tyrants that want everyone to pay for their favorite activities and do it through excessive fines and fees. While the rest of the homeowners get little or nothing in return.
@@Monkeymoon940 That is true and if OP had said find a widow I would have supported that call Generally, however, single mom means unwed mother, not a widow (in my area at least)
@@MDAdams72668 my daughters father was killed in a car accident when she was a baby. Shit happens. She's 14 now and I'm still single, by choice. Don't be so harsh on single moms/dads.
So basically I can go on vacation and come home to someone living in my house asking "who I am?" And then I can't even get into my house until I get a court order to evict the squatters? Wth
I live around the corner from an HOA. I put my trash can on the road. The HOA president came to my house to tell me to move them. I told him. "get tf off my property i'm not part of your HOA bitch, go home" I felt so proud 😂 He then dropped his glasses fumbling because he was so mad.
The f****** b******* law here in this country that's what this is a f****** nightmare everything is ass backwards you are guilty until proven innocent and corporations can get away with poisoning people and have zero liability corporations can do whatever they want with zero liability we are screwed as human beings on this planet
@@circesoul2218 relax princess this has been going on even whe. Republicans where in office. You have to be a stupid piece of shit to blame it on any party
Never never never buy a house in a subdivision with a hoa. They will destroy your peace. If your neighbors want to form one in your neighborhood, run don't walk, run to your lawyer and file an injunction. Or make sure your house is not included if you can.
You need to understand why police cannot evict these people. This is a court case that a judge must examine the evidence of who owns the property and who has the right to live there. Many squatters produce fake rental agreements and the cops don't have legal authority to validate legal documents, a judge must do that.
It is not a court case, if you break into some ones house that is called breaking and entering and trespassing which is a crime and arrest able offense. In order for the pieces of shit to enter the property they either had to break a lock or window, hence breaking and entering.
Trespassing is not a crime unless you have been given notice of trespassing and refuse to leave, or return to the property after such notice. Simply wandering on to private property does not give anyone, including the police, the right to arrest someone, even if there are signs posted.
waiving some? sounds like they were happy to get bonuses this year. if the homeowner did not effect the HOA and did not receive notice, you can't fine a fine on top of a fine. missing shrub. when will HOAs finally lose their power. it's beyond the scope and purpose of retaining home values, which is why they started
No board member on the HOA makes a salary, it is legal for them to do so. All money collected is used to pay for the upkeep of the neighborhood and common areas and to pay for insurance, contractor work, lawyer fees, etc. The only way for HOAs to go away is for 100% of Americans to boycott them. If you live in an area where 90% of homes are in HOA areas, then relocate to another State or city.
@@residentzombie sorry, nice house or not. If I buy the house, I own it. Not any fucking HOA dogshit. I will never ever ever own a house that has any affiliation with an HOA. End of discussion.
HOA should no longer have any say or act in any way against a homeowner. If they do then they should be taken to court for exceeding their power for their own means. absolutely disgusting behaviour. Should actually be stopped.
People need to understand that there is no difference between squatting in an owned home and home invasion. Put a couple bullets in them and they won't be doing anymore "squatting" and if your aim is good it won't happen to anyone else. You are entitled to defend yourself and your property from intruders, invaders, burglars, and/or trespassers and frankly, to me you are duty bound.
Even though he owns the home, he established residency elsewhere where laws actually changed. I own a house back in Ohio, but I've lived in South Carolina for the last year. When I called the police to have them check on the home that I own they explain to me that they cannot just go to the home any longer since my legal residence is in South Carolina.
so I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I cannot have police sent to the home that I own that is not my legal residence then I know I cannot just show up to the house in Ohio and start shooting people and it be considered legal. people go to jail for murder for shooting someone who breaks into their home, why do you think walking in and shooting squatters in a place that you are no longer a residence in would be the LEGAL thing to do?
Here in Canada, if someone breaks into your home, (weather you own or rent) you just call the police, and the "squatters" are arrested, removed from the property and charged with breaking and entering.... a criminal offence
Its the HOA's crew that they hire so they can extort money from the real residents. Its a common practice for HOA's. They're just businesses after all.
That is crazy, laws made so that HOAs can enforce owners to keep up their properties have gotten out of control. What should have gone into the legislation was the limitations on what they can do as well. Some of them are out of control.
Fines are not a lien. They're simply a claim against a person, not against his property. To enforce collection of the fines, the HOA would have to sue you and get a money judgment. However, if they get the judgment, they can enforce it just like any other judgment creditor: they could record a lien against ANY property you own, garnish your wages, and levy on your bank accounts until the judgment is satisfied.
At this point I don't know if I was Terrence I'm going to have to be like I was smoking a cigarette fell asleep burn it down. What they are doing to him is scandalous, and crazy.
Kinda simple.. if the HOA has a security firm on retainer, and they FAILED to keep trespassers out, whose fault is that? It's not the home owners, it's the HOA.
Vehe mence I mean.. I agreee but that would be murder by arson 🤷🏽♂️😂..again I agree as that was my first thought..not too sure what that says about me 🤔😂
@@Vincent_Morrow
Yeh but murder is another thing 😂😂😂
@@henrylivingstone2800 it's not murder... it's vermin control.
@@darthkek1953 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Actually, HOA isn't responsible for security.
Go to court and have a judge throw out all the fines on the grounds of extortion. Then sue the HOA for the loss you have suffered because of their actions.
If you sue the HOA first and win then the HOA has to pay your legal expenses .
But if the HOA Sue's you first you can't recover your legal expenses .
I can't seem to delete this channel. - the thing about that - people who had their HOA sell their homes had it happen because they don’t fight it.
Reality, it’s not their property to sell. Legally they have no authority. Until a home is paid off it belongs to the mortgage company.
I saw a story on you tube where the home owner was going through bankruptcy, had not filled or gone to court yet.
They told their mortgage company and they sent their lawyer to court to stop them. It was, for the reasons above. Lawyer was interviewed and said no one has the right to sell another’s property to collect fines or due to lack of payments like HOA dues. All they are allowed to do is place a lien on the home.
Then said an individual can sell the property if the monies owed exceed the cost of the home - before all fines for none payment and lawyer fees. They have to go to court to get permission to do so first.
They cannot claim that the lawyer fees will exceed the price of the home because most lawyers for HOA’s are on retainer.
After a sale because the owner failed to act - the HOA can only take the dues owed, no additional money such as fines. Just like in forecloses it’s the industry standard. You take the home of someone who couldn’t pay for it means they can’t afford the fines so they are dropped.
The HOA can only take what’s owed and the rest of the money goes either to the mortgage company or the old owner.
A lot of people think they need to hire a lawyer to file their cases with the courts or are embarrassed and don’t fight it.
That is the reason why HOA’s have gotten away with this stuff.
Cyndi Rothrock lol get a law degree or stfu you’re not an expert don’t think you’re clever sit down please
Not quite how court works but I like where your mind is at.
Cyndi Rothrock your name is like the martial artist and actress. I was in a tournament on JR. level when she competed once. Nice 👍🏼
He’s living in a gated community for it to allow and turn a blind eye to squatters?! Hmmmmmm
Exactly, who’s surprised the most expensive HOA of all time is absolute shit
It’s their fault the squatters got in the security needs to be held accountable
HOA Policy:
Charge 'em for the lice, extra for the mice
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice
Here a little slice, there a little cut
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut
When it comes to fixing prices
There are a lot of tricks I knows
How it all increases, all them bits and pieces
Jesus! It's amazing how it grows!!!
@@jonothandoeser 😂😂😂
I was thinking the same the HOA hired those bums.
It's obvious that there is someone on that board of HOA that wants that house!!! 🤔I think that they should do a full on investigation, and then charge those folks in the HOA for fraud!
HOA's are basically suburban mafia
I agree.....3 CASH offers with no Sale?
Someone on the HOA, is trying to get this House for Cheap or trying to Buy and Flip it, for a Profit!
Seize the house for unpaid fines......Buy it, For the cost of the unpaid fines and a little extra....Then sell it, AT a Market Value...for a Profit!
And they probably sent the squatters there in the first place so that they could start racking up the fines!
No, it's because someone at the HOA is obviously embezzling and wants more money to cover their embezzlement
Ditto
Never, never buy HOA property stay away! This is a lesson for everyone.
You'll never own new construction then
@@djlowtek what! That doesn't make any sense. Does Owning HOA property only equals new construction? "No"is the correct answer.
@@Ateo_z No, your interpretation is backwards. Owning HOA property does not equate to new construction, but owning new construction equates to HOA.
@@djlowtek Not in my world you buy new construction without HOA you just have to shop around, and if you compare old construction against the new you can see that older homes have much more solid build than their newer counter parts, specifically to building materials. Besides most of HOAs properties are cookie cutter style and who in the hell wants to live in that, give me a home with some character.
@@djlowtek While difficult in these times, you’re statement is not entirely true. I just bought a newly constructed home on a half acre of land with no HOA. They are out there it just takes time, effort and a little bit of luck 😊. I was determined to not buy a home without anHOA. Plus mowing a half acre every 3 weeks is good exercise lol
Why didn’t the HOA keep squatters from taking over the house and causing the damage that racked up the fines? Seems very strange....
Thats what your fees are supposed to prevent happening, sue them for breech of contract .
The HOA wants to take the house and auction it off so they keep the money. That’s a huge house
The hoa’s put the squatters in the house squatters will not come in to a well to do place like this unless they are payed by the hoa’s
@@hermanrogers1325 especially since HoA are usually closed off neighborhoods at least around here. there is almost no reason to find yourself in an HoA unelss you are directly going there lol
The unit owner is responsible for the acts of his guests, visitors, tenants and guests of his tenants. How is the HOA supposed to know that the people living in the unit are not tenants or relatives or guests of the unit owner? Why didn't the unit owner call the police or initiate court proceedings to regain possession of the premises through eviction? The HOA doesn't own the unit; the HOA has no legal standing to evict a squatter; only the unit owner can do that. You clearly don't know WTF you're talking about. Stop posting opinions about things you don't understand; it only makes you look foolish, stupid and ignorant.
He needs to sue the HOA, he is not responsible for the people who broke into his home and destroyed. The HOA needs to go after the people who broke into the home.
Also the HOA is responsible for any and all out of pocket expense as result of their illegal actions
All fines need to be waved he is a victim of a crime
James Webb Jr l
Not only that isn't the HOA supposed to maintain some type of security presence to prevent something like this from happening in the first place?
HOA is only responsible for what their contract says, but if that contract violates your property rights protected under the constitution then that contract is illegal.
Hire a GOOD attorney and sue the piss out of the HOA.
Would cost another 100000 bucks
@@colgatetoothpaste4865 then sue for legal fees
For debt ownership or ...
Worse thing you can do is hire an attorney!!! Due your own research!!!!
No, hire a good attorney and sue the f*** out of them!
The HOA hired the squatters so they could run up the fees
You are correct! Otherwise, how did they get into a gated community? This is awful!
Exactly
Plot twist.
Facts. Hoa can be nasty
Just said that too..so it's that obvious
That’s why you buy a ranch the middle of the desert.. I’d rather have beer with rattlesnakes than deal with Karen’s of the HOA.
😂😂😂
IKR, LOL 😆
They are also rattlesnakes.
@@GenerallyGeneralLee don’t insult rattlesnakes.
Absolutely
I will never, never live in a HOA again. It's like big brother is watching you. I said never again.
Bobbi Klein its nothing more then extortion
Bobbi Klein I rented a home in Las Vegas run by a hoa. I worked in the office and to do inspections on homes. I heard what fines could be and it was outrageous. Never again. The offense wet so ridiculous I could not believe it.
The problem is they are backed by the government. In a free market, everything in an HOA would have to be voluntary and consensual, so the rules could only be changed on a specific property within the association, if the homeowner agrees to the change. The only purpose of them in a free market would be to segregate communities based on various preferences, so very few people would belong to one.
Bobbi Klein
Big Brother isn't "watching" you... He's holding a knife to your throat while he breaks open your piggy bank, and steals your life's savings!
what is this bs HOA
Lawmakers who refuse to change squatter laws should be voted out.
Myphonyaccount, you damn right. The fact of the matter is the squatters are doing the same thing somewhere else! By the time you go through the eviction process your heads spinning! By then you're just grateful you got them out regardless of how much it cost you! There are bad landlords true, but there are far more deadbeats working the system!
Squatter should go and live with judge home.
Right
But they're being COMPASSIONATE!!
Well you can thank crappy landlords for those type of laws.
There's a HOA but they have a squatter problem? HOAs just seem like a big waste if money
It's connected
More than a waste of money, it is a criminal organization that extorts people for money and even steals people’s homes!
@@grandwonder5858 HOA’s are legal.
@@adunce.5422 Make them illegal! We the people should have a say. Every place already has City & County govts, why add HOA on top of that? There should be a referendum or a vote in an election.
@@travelnomad2128 Uh... Well, people choose to be in HOA’s, all you’d be doing is restricting people’s freedom of choice. The government doesn’t regulate these entities, so...
I owned a house with an HOA.....once. Never, ever, again. If a property has an HOA, that is an absolute deal killer, I won't even consider it. People will eventually learn.
Agreed. I have seen many stories where HOA are just ruthless.
All nice new neighborhoods have an HOA! Let's all live in old run down neighborhoods just to avoid an Hoa! Lol! I don't think so.
@@PAIDFOR50 Sorry, but you're wrong. We've built our house on acreage. I don't give a damn about "neighborhood" and especially an HOA. There are options on having nice houses without these scammers.
@paidfor... Moron I live in Orange county between damn Clemente and Laguna Beach. No HOA 3 blocks from the beach. Beautiful neighborhood and no morons talking is what colors we can paint our houses or park in our drive ways. How stupid are you? You've paid fire nothing you own nothing lol
@belltowndaisy I'm seriously considering it. Insurance prices are outrageous, civil rights are constantly violated, the police are now legalized gangs, and the country is run by lunatics afraid of an orange clown.
Something wrong with society when people get fined and life turned upside down because of other people's actions. The criminals have more rights than good people 😔
This has been going on forever and then you wonder why it's getting worse, and they know it.
When I was house shopping the moment my realtor said HOA, I don't care if it was $2 I would say NEXT!
Smart
Same!
Very smart, when you live in HOA you rent not buy simple as that..
Facts
Absolutely! I learned my lesson the hard way when I bought a townhouse. When I bought a regular house, NO HOA was high on the priority list!
Squatters are bad.
HOA is horrible.
Squatters AND HOA, however...
I'd rather live next to a volcano.
Justin Miller Gaming -JM Gaming- Hawaii sounds like a good place right now
An active volcano that is hahah
Maybe build a house and invite the squatters to stay? And hope for an eruption.
I read a story about an HOA in AZ that was finding squatters to move into privately owned homes in order to rack up fines to take the house and rent/sell it themselves.
@@otravis676 really?? Do you have a link?
The HOA didn't protect the house before so he doesn't owe you a damn dime
HOAs responsibility isn't to prevent sqauters lmao
This is how houses within HOA's should be
Once it's sold the house is no longer in the HOA and the new buyers have a choice to opt into the HOA or tell the association "we're not interested"
Let's call the HOA what it is: The prison warden who tells "free" home owners what they can do and when they can do it. Those gates come at a cost.!!! I pray God helps this man overcome the extortionists.
The homeowners association has the responsibility for maintaining the neighborhood. Sounds to me like the owner has a lawsuit on his hands because the homeowners association failed to protect his property. Just a thought rolling through my head.
1stupidfish
Well It's not exactly a secure gated condo community.
I can be away for months at a time with no issues.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 but they act like it and paper work lead to them and someone needs to take the unnecessary fines money hit. Am I the only who thinks this a giant fucking joke. Pay fine keeps money in HoA pocket so they can keep a robbing ppl who actually earn there money for living and not nickle and dime ppl (at a much larger scale) I'm sorry there a few things I cant put up with and nickle and diming ppl
Is one of them. I live in California where grocery bags now cost the consumer and I will still now ask for help out to my car even for a gallon of milk. If you're making me pay 10 cents a bag you can pay your employee 10 dollars an hour to carry to the truck of my car.
@@phillipfessenden7705 good job on being a lazy piece of shit then. The only people who should ask for help out are the disabled/elderly. Making a courtesy clerk carry out your shit hurts other customers not the business because they now how to wait longer and bag their own groceries. Besides you only have to pay for bags if you don't bring your own.
The hoa here tried to break my back gate down. The board member peered over the fence and found out how big of a mistake he was about to make when he was staring down the barrel of a 12 guage double barrel shotgun. Aint seen him since. Although he kept saying he had the "right to inspect" my back yard. Which was a crock
they are trying to steal the house.
Isn’t it ironically these people formed HOA so that they can keep the value of their homes high only to turn buyers off because of the crimes and extortion tactics of HOA?
Yep
They don't send you the notices on purpose. They waited 3.5 years to send me a second notice of late fees because I paid late in 2014 when I got stationed in Germany. It racked up almost $500 in "admin" fees. Funny thing is I continued to pay on time every 6 months not even knowing I had a late fee. When I confronted them about it they told me, "oh well we sent it to the real estate management company, they never let you know?". So that was supposedly the first notice and then the second notice came 3.5 years later when I moved back to try and sell the house. They do it on purpose.
Was this in Las Vegas? My HOA plays the same game. Sent me a late fee notice (first notice) 4 years after the fact.
They are the type of people to say "thank you for your service"
@Cyndi Rothrock But it's being done by this HOA! All the more reason for this gentleman to sue the HOA-He has an excellent case against them for multiple violations on THEIR part! And he needs to sue for a big 8-figure sum at least!
This has got to be illegal. I would sue the hell out of them
You pay HOA fees but they allow squatters to live in your house and expect you to pay for the fees. Seems to me like the HOA needs to be sued!!!
its funny how HOA people never wants to talk with camera rolling :DD
Course not bcz their know is a scam ripoff legal extortion
Why should they?
@@TeslaBoy123 You don't know WTF you're talking about. HOA stands for Homeowners' Association. An HOA is a legal entity consisting of ALL the homeowners. The homeowners themselves ARE the HOA. They elect from among themselves a board of directors to manage the property owned in common by the HOA. If the homeowners don't like the way the board is running things, they can remove them and elect a new board. Most HOA boards hire a professional property manager to advise them, hire contractors that provide services to the HOA such as landscaping, painting, accounting, billing, etc., and run the daily operations of the HOA. The dues paid by the homeowners are used to cover the operating expenses of the HOA and maintain reserves required by law to pay for the repair and replacement of roofs, streets, fences, and other HOA property. The members of the board are all volunteers and serve without pay or compensation. None of the dues go into their pockets, contrary to your ridiculous claim that the HOA is engaged in "scam ripoff legal extortion." Furthermore, any fines collected by HOA goe into the operating budget, not into anyone's pocket.
HOA BOARDS ARE LINING THEIR POCKETS.
Wrong. You don't know WTF you're talking about. The directors on an HOA board are unpaid volunteers elected from and by the homeowners. All the assessments and fees that are collected go into the HOA's operating and maintenance accounts, not into any board member's pocket. These are corporate accounts, not personal accounts. Typically, an HOA board hires a professional property management company to manage the day-to-day operations of the HOA, issue monthly invoices, keep the books, and advise the board. By law, HOA accounts are audited annually and the auditor's detailed reported is distributed to the homeowners. So you're claim that HOA boards are lining their pockets is ignorant bullshit.
Exactly why I would never buy a home dealing with a HOA!
sometimes a man simply has to take matters into his own hands and resolve a situation by all means necessary
I understand EXACTLY What you're saying... And I Agree 100%... Sometimes? You just got to do, what you have to do to "Correct" a bad situation... He's CLEARLY Not from New Jersey or New York...
the tried and true fire extinguisher attitude adjustment should work well and the squatters will be on the move
My thoughts exactly. They aren't squatters, they are felons threatening my life. Appropriate response will be taken.
roy hoco Well said (Kudos).
There's no way I'm waiting for the justice system to... not do anything except assist the criminal.
If they break into my house, regardless if I'm living there or not, It's time for a brutal eviction.
In a case like this, I would deliver the "eviction notice" at about 1400fps.
As for the HOA, it would be a real shame if something should happen to their records . . .
This is EXACTLY why I've never lived in an HOA and never will! I watched my parents go through all kinds of stupidity because the HOA people are power-hungry and do not understand why they are there in the first place. These same people probably complain about Politicians when they are even worse in some cases!
We just got fined because our trash can is visible from one side of gate when they drive through the cult de sac. And before that they measured the gravel on side of house and was off by an inch.
HOA’s are Ridiculous!!!
His HOA should have been protecting his property it's thier fault,those neighborhoods are not even safe
HOA doesn’t protect anything, it is a criminal organization that is designed to extort homeowners for money and set up traps in the form of “rules” so that people would break them and then charge them with fines! HOA is nothing but a crime syndicate that operates much in the same way as the Mafia does that charges business owners a monthly fee for “protection!”
@@grandwonder5858 Exactly! They should be outlawed. I don't see a point in their existence & they're too all powerful. Time to stop them
Feel bad for that man, dealing with criminals on all fronts.
I'm not even IN the HOA that is suing me for "back dues" of $5,400. They keep losing in court so they just keep appealing. I can't even sell my home with a lawsuit on it.
Wow, sounds like you need to sue them
Meeker Extreme
Sue the pants off of them.
It's in the works.
It's in the works.
I know this story is slightly different than yours but maybe it will give you hope. business.time.com/2011/06/06/homeowner-forecloses-on-bank-of-america-yes-you-heard-that-right/
What if the squatters are employed by the HOA???
I wouldn't be surprised. 😮
You already pay taxes. The city has code enforecement. After that, you are paying someone even more money to tell you what to do based on their opinions.
😂😂😂😂😂 No thanks!
I know. HOAs are redundant, no purpose at all. They're created to pay salaries of useless ppl, sitting on their butts terrorizing homeowners. Gestapo in a word.
Not only is the homeowner criminally violated by the squatters, but also by the laws that required him to go through a formal eviction process AND he's being criminally violated by the HOA. Seems like the HOA can arbitrarily assess fines without telling the homeowner about it. In this case, there are two HOAs attacking him.
I live on 30 acres the only h.o.a. are me and my wife and it will stay that way. Screw city life and those damn sub divisions
There are subdivisions without HOA's. I've lived in them in five different US states for the past decades. I avoid HOA's.
If it's about property values then the HOA FAILED as they are blocking the sale of a home...what they rather the guy strip it and board it up and walk away?
If only the HOA actually did something about squatter prevention to begin with... Which would make sense in regard to neighbourhood security and property values. But that's expecting an HOA to act in the interest of their neighbourhood and not just their own wallet.
I bought my home out from under an HOA at a foreclosure auction. So the bank who owned it, sold it directly to me. The HOA isn't anywhere on the notarised paperwork. They have no authority about anything with regard to my property, but that sure doesn't stop them from trying.
I don't even bother sending a copy of the deed and purchase papers to debt collectors or the court. I just flat out tell them that the HOA needs to provide evidence that I have a contract with them. Which they can't so the stuff just goes away for a while.
When eventually someone at the HOA "discovers" that I haven't paid dues or other shit and then it all starts again. It costs their members thousands in legal fees just because the HOA keeps on screwing up. Much like they did at the foreclosure auction.
It's about theft and protecting values for the builder . Nobody in their right mind wants high property values. That just spells higher taxes
Yes they would so they can bypass court because the HOA loves to reposes houses with fine crap
I’m so sick of the abuse of HOA it’s so much corruption abuse of pawer...... someone needs to help homeowners
*THIEVES TAKING YOUR MONEY AND HOLDING YOUR PROPERTY HOSTAGE.*
I'm sure now he will have even more problems selling the home because a normal or should I say reasonable person wouldn't want to live under that HOA. As for me personally, I would never live in an HOA neighborhood because I don't like neighbors telling me what I can or can't do. I own my home and it is mine to do with what I want.
You sound like a neighbor from hell 😄
It blows my mind how anyone can squat a house. When you break into a house that isn't yours that makes you a criminal.
Not in this country in this country the law protects the criminal how f***** up is that b*******
Agreed.... you think if you call the police they are all arrested. But if they can "live" in the home long enough to claim residency.... they are somehow protected.
It makes no sense.
@@DashCamCinema I think it’s like 30 days. Now air bnb owners are getting squatters. That’s why many now only have 29 day contracts. If they aren’t out on day 29 the police have the legal right to remove them.
Omg!!!!!!! Robbery!!!!! How can they even do This??!! Where was the HOA when squatters were breaking in???
Writing out the fines for broken gate, broken door locks, improperly parked vehicles . . .
Diana Herron licking their chops on the fines they were going to extort
Sipping $900 alcohol out of their $200 beer mugs, eating $200 lobster off their Platinum coated plates inside their $400k house.
HOA's are extortions for free income.
Helping them to break in.
Giving them free charity food
They want the property!
Sounds like it is time to void the HOA. I would ever buy a home in an HOA neighborhood, way too often they are taken over by petty tyrants that want everyone to pay for their favorite activities and do it through excessive fines and fees. While the rest of the homeowners get little or nothing in return.
I would suggest find a single mom that is very responsible and have her live in the home as a house sitter. Then go after the HOA in court.
Ha ha a single mom that is responsible Having children without two parents is the definition of IRresponsible.
Husband could of died
@@Monkeymoon940 That is true and if OP had said find a widow I would have supported that call Generally, however, single mom means unwed mother, not a widow (in my area at least)
@@MDAdams72668 well just find a single father, does that make it better for you😒
@@MDAdams72668 my daughters father was killed in a car accident when she was a baby. Shit happens. She's 14 now and I'm still single, by choice. Don't be so harsh on single moms/dads.
Oh look someone is in my house. Eliminate all threats then call the police. Castle law for the win.
Merlin na Glenlyon thats what i would have done
That puts you in jail for manslaughter in like... 95% of the places on earth lol...
@@shadowblack1987 Usually just threatening them is enough to kick em out
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv someone explain to me why he had to go thru legal eviction process to kick the squatters out of his house???
So basically I can go on vacation and come home to someone living in my house asking "who I am?" And then I can't even get into my house until I get a court order to evict the squatters? Wth
I live around the corner from an HOA. I put my trash can on the road. The HOA president came to my house to tell me to move them. I told him. "get tf off my property i'm not part of your HOA bitch, go home" I felt so proud 😂 He then dropped his glasses fumbling because he was so mad.
I feel proud just reading this post. lols
Hell yeah 💯 👏🏿
NEVER buy a house with a HOA. Never buy land with a restricted deed. STAY FAR AWAY unless you like Karens of the world trying to control your life.
Those Karen's never made cheerleader or were properly ---- !
Ridiculous!,..HOAs should be sued for Deceptive practices and Fraud! They can’t justify those fees
Damn..... really this is legal ? The state's should never let hoas have this much power.....
Sounds like extortion on behalf of the HOA!!
That's what it sounds like.
It's a criminal organization created to draw salaries for nothing. Time to outlaw them.
Yeah the HOA must be broke charging ppls all these fees and towing ppls cars for no reason Smdh
What kind of crazy law allows someone to break into your house and then live there legally?!?
Right
The f****** b******* law here in this country that's what this is a f****** nightmare everything is ass backwards you are guilty until proven innocent and corporations can get away with poisoning people and have zero liability corporations can do whatever they want with zero liability we are screwed as human beings on this planet
California is even worse!!!
That's America now
@@circesoul2218 relax princess this has been going on even whe. Republicans where in office. You have to be a stupid piece of shit to blame it on any party
Squatters rights are more important than homeowners rights. These eviction laws are gross.
Lesson: Don't buy a house with an HOA, unless you like someone extorting you at every single turn.
Never never never buy a house in a subdivision with a hoa. They will destroy your peace. If your neighbors want to form one in your neighborhood, run don't walk, run to your lawyer and file an injunction. Or make sure your house is not included if you can.
If there wasnt one to begin with, just don’t sign anything. They can’t force you to join after the fact, you can only sign into HOA’s.
@WrangzilDon't join!la
Went from watching videos about squatters to HOA scams and now I'm seeing someone get screwed by both.
are you kidding me? this is whats fucked up in america. the squatters have rights and must be evicted while the home owner suffers over 150,000 .
Austin Barker 🙃 I agree complete bs . It's his house . Hoa are full of 💩
You need to understand why police cannot evict these people. This is a court case that a judge must examine the evidence of who owns the property and who has the right to live there. Many squatters produce fake rental agreements and the cops don't have legal authority to validate legal documents, a judge must do that.
It is not a court case, if you break into some ones house that is called breaking and entering and trespassing which is a crime and arrest able offense. In order for the pieces of shit to enter the property they either had to break a lock or window, hence breaking and entering.
residentzombie is correct.
Trespassing is not a crime unless you have been given notice of trespassing and refuse to leave, or return to the property after such notice. Simply wandering on to private property does not give anyone, including the police, the right to arrest someone, even if there are signs posted.
This is ridiculous. Sqatters should be arrested immediately and not have to be evicted.
I would sue this HOA for abuse. Bill of rights. This is insane.
Never, ever buy into an HOA. If your neighbors try to start one, turn a garden hose on them.
$111K?! What?! That’s insane!
That's insane. They need to ban HOAs
It’d be cheaper to “accidentally” burn it down to the ground.
“ Took apart the pool equipment “ , “ Took the doorbell “ = METH HEADS
waiving some? sounds like they were happy to get bonuses this year. if the homeowner did not effect the HOA and did not receive notice, you can't fine a fine on top of a fine. missing shrub.
when will HOAs finally lose their power. it's beyond the scope and purpose of retaining home values, which is why they started
No board member on the HOA makes a salary, it is legal for them to do so. All money collected is used to pay for the upkeep of the neighborhood and common areas and to pay for insurance, contractor work, lawyer fees, etc. The only way for HOAs to go away is for 100% of Americans to boycott them. If you live in an area where 90% of homes are in HOA areas, then relocate to another State or city.
@@residentzombie sorry, nice house or not. If I buy the house, I own it. Not any fucking HOA dogshit. I will never ever ever own a house that has any affiliation with an HOA. End of discussion.
Keep these videos in mind whenever you think about moving into an HOA!
Actually, just search HOA problems.....that should be enough of a deterrence!
America when you buy a home in an HOA neighborhood, they actually own your home , make the rules, you have virtually no say with the home you pay for
The HOA people won't talk on camera because they know that what they're doing is wrong.
thats why i would never buy a house with HOA
HOA should no longer have any say or act in any way against a homeowner. If they do then they should be taken to court for exceeding their power for their own means. absolutely disgusting behaviour. Should actually be stopped.
Sue the HOA! 😮
"waiving some of the fines" holy shit the balls on these people. why doesn't the guy sue the HOA ?
People need to understand that there is no difference between squatting in an owned home and home invasion. Put a couple bullets in them and they won't be doing anymore "squatting" and if your aim is good it won't happen to anyone else. You are entitled to defend yourself and your property from intruders, invaders, burglars, and/or trespassers and frankly, to me you are duty bound.
Even though he owns the home, he established residency elsewhere where laws actually changed. I own a house back in Ohio, but I've lived in South Carolina for the last year. When I called the police to have them check on the home that I own they explain to me that they cannot just go to the home any longer since my legal residence is in South Carolina.
so I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I cannot have police sent to the home that I own that is not my legal residence then I know I cannot just show up to the house in Ohio and start shooting people and it be considered legal.
people go to jail for murder for shooting someone who breaks into their home, why do you think walking in and shooting squatters in a place that you are no longer a residence in would be the LEGAL thing to do?
Robb H if you have a blue uniform and badge you definitely will be able to get away with it 🤭
It really sucks that it takes public shaming for the HOA to get their head out of their ass...
I feel so bad for this man. I seen this was a few years ago so I hope he got his home sold and was able to be with his family.
Here in Canada, if someone breaks into your home, (weather you own or rent) you just call the police, and the "squatters" are arrested, removed from the property and charged with breaking and entering.... a criminal offence
USA is complicated
sue the hoa to finally settle the deal
Sue them! 😮
Has there been an update or followup on this?
The owner needs to counter sue the associations for millions. What creeps
This is criminal . . . the HOA has got to be taken down!!!
THIS is one of MANY reasons I'll NEVER be a part of an HOA...
I thought HOA’s normally had some kind of security. So how was it that the squatters were able to take over their house.
Its the HOA's crew that they hire so they can extort money from the real residents. Its a common practice for HOA's. They're just businesses after all.
"Waving some of the fines."
They sent those squatters into that house and told them to treat it like shit.
Imagine having to pay a fine because a shrub reached the end of its life cycle.
This man needs to hire a lawyer and get those fees lowered. I feel the h.o.a is sending someone to this man home.
That is crazy, laws made so that HOAs can enforce owners to keep up their properties have gotten out of control. What should have gone into the legislation was the limitations on what they can do as well. Some of them are out of control.
There should be a referendum on HOA in an election. Let the ppl decide.
Waiving some of the fines?!?! Crazy!!!
I know right those people need to maintain their property and pay all their fines
I would never buy any house with HOA.
Fines are not a lien. They're simply a claim against a person, not against his property. To enforce collection of the fines, the HOA would have to sue you and get a money judgment. However, if they get the judgment, they can enforce it just like any other judgment creditor: they could record a lien against ANY property you own, garnish your wages, and levy on your bank accounts until the judgment is satisfied.
They need to do an investigation into all of the HOA other transactions. Bank of America had a class action lawsuit for illegal fines.
Shot squatters on site.
"oh my! squatters lit the house up like a match?"
"That's such a tragedy" . . .
I couldn't even watch the entire video. It got me pissed and I'm not even in his shoes
Squatters should not have to be evicted....THROW THEIR ASS OUT!!!! This is ridiculous 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
HOA should be outlawed nationwide.
Terrance has the patience of a saint.
I will live in a trailer park before I pay an HOA
News flash: trailer parks have as many restrictions as condo associations.
At this point I don't know if I was Terrence I'm going to have to be like I was smoking a cigarette fell asleep
burn it down. What they are doing to him is scandalous, and crazy.
So why are the squatters not arrested for breaking and entering and theft? Here we have no squatter problems.
Clearly HOA is doing the unbelievable unheard of activities to the working middle class homeowners in the suburban areas