Frankfurt to Paris on a FAST 320km/h DB ICE 3 Velaro D High Speed Train!
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- This week I'll be taking you on what I believe is the best way to travel from Germany to France... by DB's premium ICE train. This joint operation between DB and SNCF makes six round trips a day between Frankfurt and Paris, reaching 320km/h on France's LGV Est, one of the fastest railway lines in the world. So join me on this amazing high speed journey across two of Europe's key countries!
Journey details:
Date of travel - June 2023
Operator - DB/SNCF
Origin - Frankfurt (M) Hbf
Destination - Paris Est
Class of travel - First Class
Price - €49.90/£44.43/$54.73
(Advance first class single)
Journey duration - 3 hours 40 minutes
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:33 Frankfurt (M) Hbf
01:46 The DB/SNCF Joint Operation
02:20 The ICE to London?!?
03:16 Train Formation & Boarding
03:48 Our Route to Paris
04:19 Departure from Frankfurt & Key Sights
04:53 The Conventional Line to Mannheim
05:35 Know Your Seat
06:57 Mannheim Hbf
07:20 First High Speed Line!
07:38 Walkthrough
08:05 Subscribe!
08:20 Karlsruhe Hbf
08:51 Loo Review
09:33 Bordrestaurant Visit
09:55 High Speed Line to Basel & Entering France
11:12 Strasbourg - First & Last Stop in France!
11:56 The LGV Est & 320km/h!
13:39 The Fastest Train in the World?!?
14:42 Entering the Parisian Suburbs & My Thoughts
15:36 Arrival, Conclusions & Thank You!
Frankfurt to Paris: 475 km, 4 hours
Paris to Bordeaux: 570 km, 2 hours 10 mn
It makes sense, the German population is more dispersed, so there comparatively more attention to the regional rail network. France is much larger than Germany but Germany has 10000km more rail. This also means high speed trains have to share routes with regional rail which slows them down.
@@user-cz9ss4yq4xGermany is slightly larger then France. It’s population is 1,6 times as large
Germany isn't centralised around one city. So there are more interdependencies on service. It's impossible for German high speed trains to be as fast or as punctual as french trains and would make no sense. Still a lot of room for improvement though, and things have gotten worse over the last 10 years.
@@MrJimheeren I meant France being larger in terms of area, not population.
@@kokotheclown I guess it's gotten worse in other parts but the south has seen some nice improvements. The new Go-Ahead regional trains run very reliably and frequently now after a painful start and they easily go 150km/h.
I made the journey from Munich airport to Augsburg in about an 1:30h yesterday (15 min deboarding, 40 min S-Bahn, 25 min ICE, few minutes of wait times). This is an hour faster than it used to be due to scheduling bubbles. Stuttgart 21 is finally completing soon too which upgrades the whole south of the country and Europe west-east rail at large.
All of this comfort comes at the cost of lower top speeds for ICEs at least until the Deutschlandtakt is ready...
What a quality train. I like the re-introduction of wood paneling on the interiors, adds some feeling of luxury to your journey. 👍
You actually part-alluded to one other reason why the London ICE services didn't happen - the stock you're on was needed to replace/reinforce unreliable existing international services (even though it was originally ordered for a London service)
I did in in june 2022, just reverse and with a TGV Duplex but also in first class. But because of track works we did take another route from the german border to Frankfurt that was around 30-40 minutes longer than usual.
Did London -> Paris -> Munich two years ago in First Class. Can agree to the praise of the Velario. Eurostar and the ICE from Stuttgart to Munich have been amazing. The TGV was fast, but their 1st class was less comfortable than 2nd class in any ICE from my experience.
Hi. Great Video, but don't you think that the ticking noise is for the People with visual impairmant? Reduced hearing people can see the doors.
I took the service between Stuttgart and Paris at the end of lock-down. A first class ticket booked on the day cost me 93 euros which is a snip compared to the £345 that eurostar charged me to the second leg. The train was just as you described, clean and punctual although we had to change train sets in Karlsruhe for some reason. My second leg was very poor, crowded into the security area of gar de Nord with no services and scruffy train back. Thanks for sharing.
im in Germany next week and will be going first class from Dortmund to Hamburg. From there to Vienna on the new OBB night train.
Enjoy, it’s a great train!
Great video as always! There’s been a big big update to the IC and ICN services by trenitalia, with new liveries, services and trainsets! I would love to see a review on this soon!
Thank you, I’ll try and arrange it when I can!
In Vendenheim took place the first and only deadly accident in the history of the TGV . A pre-opening test train went to fast into the connecting curve and derailed and killed 11 people.
The HSL Est-Européen is designed for speeds up to 350km/h but operational costs are too high for that speed…
It'll be great when Germany constructs it's high speed line to the border. I've read Paris to Frankfurt will be 2 hours 30 minutes then
Took the same route but going through Kaiserslautern and Saarbrücken - ICE trains are the best out there imo, masterclass in design and more spacious/comfortable 🙌
I'd love to do this train service. Albeit between Paris and Strasbourg
DB wont revive the train to london, both frankfurth and colone main station are already seeing more trains than the station was designed to handle (and good luck enlarging the station since it is in the middle of the city) so they are unwilling to sacrifice an entire platform for the passport controls, as the platform could otherwise serve a lot more trains. And belgium, understandably, is not keen on letting the german trains have an enourmous stop in brussels to do the checks there, as brussels also has better uses for that capacity. Especially since you cannot buy trough tickets to other stations in the uk, making it less attractive to use the channel tunnel if you need to go to another city in the uk.
So unless there is a check in system where people can have their passports checked online beforehand, skipping the need for passport checks at the station, or the UK decides to just do the checks in st. pancras. There wont be a direct gemany-london connection anytime soon.
Only wonders if the passport control difficulties are deliberate to halt the development of UK - EU train services for fear of upsetting the airline industry.
@@barrieshepherd7694The channel tunnel is Anglo-French, the access LGV line is French, the Eurostar Group is mainly a French company (55% SNCF) ... so no benefit indeed in making things esay for Eurostar (though Siemens did manage to sell them their trains).
I vaguely guess the Germans (the Government, DB, Lufthansa, whatever...) are waiting for some sort of eventual copartnership in the managment of that "international" tunnel/line and the creation of a Eurostar competitor that could be Anglo-Dutch-German or German-Belgio-French... whatever as long as Germans are a big part of it and get some good income out of it... basically they only want to participate if they are too a "top player" (at least equal to the UK or even France)
There are a bit more Germans than French living within a 500km distance from the Tunnel... There is the Brussels "bottleneck" but a bypass (mainly tunnel) is not unconceivable...
In 8 years both Turin and Milan will be within 4 hour of Paris (through the Alps !) ... in a sense it shows where priorities are in governments...
Yes, the Restaurant and cafe sets the ICE apart. Kudos to DB.
The TGV seats is the only thing I like about TGV, now.
I have never encountered a comfortable seat on any Siemens train.
SNCF is very shitty when it comes to clean trains and food service. It seems the French Railways no longer have any pride.
There will be No >300mk/h lines in Germany because the benefits of time savings are too small compared to the amount of enenergy consumption due to the short distances. So the the Velaro D are only capable of 320km/h...because they use the LGV Est.
i should really try this service at some point during an interrail, it is kinda just awkward for me tho as it connects 2 cities i have more direct rail connections too so i doubt i will take these any time soon. i still loved watching the video despite the ice wifi (ice 4 from switzerland)
Bit unusual to run a 16-car set from Frankfurt to Paris. How good!
I've never been to Europe, hopefully in 2026...
I'll definitely have to try some high speed trains if I do make it, most trains in Europe would likely be faster than what we have in Australia.
Can I request you something please.
Can you maybe do the WMR Class 730 sometime as they have ow entered passenger service on the Cross City line between Bromsgrove and Lichfield.
That would be appreciated. Thanks.
Great video once again Midland.
Is it just me or did the ice doors sound sounded like a class 380 in the uk?
5:15 whats the point of building a 300 km/h line for the short leg of Frankfurt to Mannheim if you can only travel at up to 250 km/h between Mannheim and Stuttgart + Stuttgart and Ulm and even slower from Ulm to Munich anyways?
New lines are planned based on a future timetable (Deutschlandtakt). 29 minutes travelling time between Frankfurt and Mannheim is needed to reach all connections in Mannheim. With the chosen route, it's only possible with 300kmh
I only took the TGV between germany and Paris… But in tow weeks i am going to take an ice to Visit Paris again
Folks, I need to pour water into the wine. In theory, the ICEneo is Europe's most recommendable HST next to Italy's Frecciarossa 1000, which I regard the the currently best train in Europe. However. I am from Germany and a frequent business traveller on the Frankfurt to Düsseldorf route. Here, ICE3neo already are in revenue service. My general experience with ICE travel is: Out of 10 services, on 5 the restaurant is closed, serves only drinks or none at all because the kitchen is broken or the coffee machine, or the crew didn't show for work - they are never short of reasons not to serve the passengers. What is more you urgently should avoid to have any litter, the litter boxes are a joke. Until couple of years ago, a cleaning guy would walk the train every hour end to end and collect trash into a big bag - gone. Most likely cost cutting measure so the upper managers to get an even higher bonus. Which they are gettiing anyway. Not for making the German railroad the reliable transportation again it used to be for 150 or so years. Came rain or shine, the train was alwasy 'there" and on time - back in the days when I was young. Maybe they did not have these fancy high-spped ICE, but snow could pile up to the sky - the trains were running. On the dining car, they served real cooked meals on real china, not these microwave crap they serve today. But, of course, strictly vegan and organic. Today, for German railroad management it is only important they hire enough women and immigrants and all that stuff. DEI at highest standards outside the Harvard university. It is just into May and I already have had my fair share of passengers sitting next to you, listing loudly to music from their smartphones, making video calls on loudspeaker to Syria or Afghanistan. I witnessed two brawls about reserved seats, and no conductor bothered to show up... I could tell you a whole lot more. Not for all of these issues the DB is at fault. But often I wish in Germany, trains couldn't be accessed without any check or control. Recently, I was in the US, in Florida. They now have this Brightline service from Miami to Orlando. It isn't high speed. only a small section at 125 mph, the rest is 79 to 90 mph. But service is much better. The stations... you wouldb't believe what is possible, if you only know German railroad stations. Clean you could eat from the floor. No smell of piss, no beggars, pickpockets or drug pushers which are frequent attendants at Frankfurt Central. Security is similar to air travel, but it makes the journey more secure.
How is the situation in the UK? As bad, or is it any better. Any yes - at times, my ICE is on time, the toilets not defect and the other passenger quiet and polite. But that would be one joureny out of 10.
Hello Midland London, this is a very enjoyable video. Is the LGV EST Line the same route that runs between Paris - Lyon which opened in 1981 or were you on a different French high speed line?
Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.
No, the line between Paris and Lyon is the LGV Sud-Est (Southeast), which opened partially in 1981 and fully in 1983.
The fastest lines in France are the LGV SEA (Tours Bordeaux, extending LGV Atlantique all the way to Bordeaux and reducing travel times to 2 hours and 3 or 4 minutes), LGV Est between Paris and Strasbourg or the German border, LGV BPL between le Mans and Rennes, LGV Rhin-Rhône that is a stretch between Alsace and Lyon's regions.
Currently, there's the Bordeaux Toulouse that is being built.
These lines are operated at 320kph.
Other older lines are limited at 300kph.
40€ ahh what a bargain!
1.clas has 2 Buttons 🤔 1 at the side and 1 under the seat!
do you feel nausea at that speed?
I really like the ICE trains....i did this trip on a Eurail first class pass, I think I had to pay around a 20.00 reservation fee, but it was worth it. I went from Germany to Paris on a TGV and came back on the ICE
6euro
@Patrick-on2ty nah, it's more then six euros on an ICE train to Paris....its the only segment where I had to pay a reservation fee on an ICE train....the ones to Belgium and Switzerland don't need one....this was first class though
@@ringo7561 Sometimes you need it and it's 5,90 for the train to Switzerland in First class. i ride this route 3 or 4 times a year from Berlin -Bern via Basel and 20,- is a lie!
@@ringo7561 db booking app
@Patrick-on2ty I've always jumped on ICE trains both going to Switzerland to and from Germany ( about 8 times total)....I just find an empty seat in first class with my Eurail Global first class pass. I've never been asked to pay a reservation fee from the train ticket taker. I guess I've gotten lucky each time.
3:37 reduced hearing? Don't you mean reduced sight?
Yes apologies, made a typo by mistake! Many thanks for letting me know 👍
I wish it reaches 380km/h
Why aren't we more outraged at the Eurostar monopoly?
I have never understood the provision of foot rests on trains. They don't add to comfort, must add to weight and maintenance work and always seem to hit my ankles or restrict access - altogether a waste of time IMHO.
great video, better than superlabs travels
Superalbs is quite good too .