Can't Afford a Bug Out Location? Alternatives You Should Consider
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- If a major event forces you out of your home and there is no help coming, you may be on your own for a period of time. In this video, we'll look at alternative locations you should consider. Download the Start Preparing! Survival Guide here: bit.ly/3xWhVwZ
0:00 Introduction
1:01 TYPE OF DISASTER
4:01 ABANDONED BUILDINGS
4:52 OFF THE ROAD OR UNDER IT
5:47 DOWN OR UP RIVER
6:55 CAVES AND MINES
8:33 BOATS AND COVES
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With all do respect i dont think your ready for the worst.... But thats ok. Folks like me will help folks like you! We got you covered friend
Subscriber ! BTW If you think you will go unnoticed, passing freely through the land using what you want in the rural areas then you should think again. We hunt deer and mushrooms, coyote and herbs all year round. we know when outsiders move in and post land generations have hunted on. We know where caves and mines are and you may be intruding where we are caching supplies to avoid theft or confiscation.
I cut my neighbors grass and he cuts mine. I cut across his land to go hunting and he picks bilberries and blackberries on mine. You city folk don't know how to live out here, real sob's get no help and are allowed to fail.We lift up and support those who know how to live country style but there aren't many.
@@devinhoyt8396 I have a lot more but the one thing I dont have is trust because those people I know are just not into this I have been laughed at through out the years long before this I tried to warn people when 9-11 happened and I've planning saving ever since. Ever extra dollar I get goes into things I need. But I you look into my storage locker and my back room I have enough to save me and my wife now we have to leave in the next six months I would say I'm coming into a small amount of money and that's for land and a small place. I just dont trust those that I see where I'm at. The guy ED is correct who responded to me. But not all people are bad that are homeless. But not all people who have roofs over there heads are good if you get my meaning. Anyway thank you for replying and have a safe X-Mas and a Great Safe New Year.
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Semper Fi
@@devinhoyt8396 You are absolutely right. Bugging out like in the movies....LOL
I'm leaving I going to to the desert in about a six months the crap is going the way I thought it would. If you can do it and do it fast stock up and stock up a lot.
The older you get, the less appealing bugging out on foot sounds.
I guess, might as well ride it out if not much time is left anyway.
I am older and took the steps necessary to get out of dodge, after seeing society loose its morality.
I'm already at my stand. And if I must retreat, then I have what I consider the best place possible that I can go to thats a hop and a skip away. Could not choose a better place.
And also having furbabies to protect.
Lol srsly
I hear you there. I've got a 40 acre primitive living site about 20 miles from my home. I'm in no hurry to rush out there unless it's dire. The level of work just to survive each day goes up tenfold .. splitting wood, catching fish, hunting, trapping, carrying water from the free flowing well etc ... all takes energy which you have to replace with increased food intake. I'll stay where it's comfortable till absolutely necessary.
My plan is to bug out in my ex wifes basement. She never noticed me before so this works perfectly
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Hahaha
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She will be waiting for you now. lol
Thanks for the laugh
Rule #1: Never tell anyone about your secret bug out location.
Or that you even have one.
Well, rule one is actually have a bug out location. Rule 2 is never tell anyone about it
@@rayjones463 Thats right. You dont need to be able to afford a bug out place, you just need to afford a gun to clear the inhabitants of your new bug out place!
Rule 1 of fight club....don't talk about fight club
Rule#2 no secret bugout location is a “secret”
Bug out locations. As an ex real estate agent I can testify that at any moment there are hundreds of thousands of vacant homes all over every county and State. They can even be identified on the internet. For me I plan to squat a vacant home as far in the wilderness as possible that also has the aforementioned requirements such as water and access to food. This is something most people don't think about because they think it is illegal and technically it is but in a serious crash of society no one is going to be coming to evict you anytime soon. It is likely one of the best bugout scenarios you can imagine and it will take an act of a judge and the enforcement of a sheriff to remove you from the home and likely none of these systems will be functional during a hard crash of society. There you go a bug out spot for everyone. Enjoy
Agreed. Abandoned properties in hard to reach areas (multiple homes), due to the closing of quarries, logging companies, etc... are viable resources to use in bad times.
In a complete crash most if any wouldn't know it wasn't yours and if you can hold onto it, it is yours.
Right on, I AGREE..
Well, Crazy hbj, that is when you learn to say None Ya!!
P.S. It is just a Thought.
This is fantastic because there are more of us who rent and live paycheck to paycheck than those of us who own an alternative property back in the woods with a stocked pantry, but for some reason a lot of prepper channels seem to assume we all have a solid, reliable bug out location we can get to anytime we need. So I'm very happy to see this reality covered on your channel.
Homeless ppl have found a way but it’s dangerous
The best thing, Dru if you can find someone who you can trust and team up with them. It's going to get rough. I saw this coming a few years ago and bought a Texas ranch. Been getting ready for society's breakdown. I really need one more year to be self sufficient. I have cows, pond with fish, orchard, garden, chickens and more. If you can find a ranch and reach out that would be your best bet. I have a friend moving back home to Montana to family ranch. He could help you too.
Small camper you can pull behind your vehicle maybe an option.
@Protect Nature 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah right very true Ms. Pritchard.
A year ago, this concept was my #1 reason not to be like "those crazy doomsday preppers". My how things change
Isn't amazing how we are all called Conspiracy theorists..... Now im constantly being asked Questions..... I've actually received several apologies.
John is completely right. We've been the one's quietly getting ready in the event something happens, and then it did. It wasn't what people expected, but that was the point of being prepared in the first place.
Thank you for bringing balance and critical thinking to this, CP. 💜
I'm sure many of us, including myself, have had the knee jerk reaction to take to the woods. A well thought out response is always the better option. 👍
You were judgemental and ignorant like many have been but Atleast you have awoken now. It's time for you to take it seriously, for you and your family's sake. We are nearing the final phase.
@@Soldier_Sean Thank you, Captain Obvious. How ever were you able to piece that together all by yourself?
Live on 15 acre with milking goats, chickens , alpaca, horse and almost surrounded by 250 acres of 2 brother inlaws property and another large family on their property with cattle, We are bugging in with a small community
Probably the best idea
Get some bees so have honey, tap those maple trees burn 40 gallons of sap to make 1 gallon of maple syrup. Burn down more to make maple candy. How some fruits trees expand your farm if you can if you got a river or lake go 24-7 hydro generator get 100% off grid like me just some to think about cut those tree 2 close to your house don’t have to worry about that 2
Got bees
Well you are truly blessed. Some of us are not so lucky to have such a set up. Some of us will have to shelter in place in the cities becauce some people have only been able to live paycheck to paycheck for some reason or the other. So yes count yourself among the ones who are blessed my friend
Just make SURE, that your "All", . . . ON THE SAME PAGE !
Growing up, I used to go out in the woods for a few weeks leaving behind everything but a hatchet or knife, a tarp and a pot. Me and my best friend would do this to see if we could 'rough it' This was when i was in the 8th and 9th grades, so i was what, about 15 or so. Yes, it could be a challenge, but with practice, we got adept at setting woven traps for fish in small streams, foraging berries, and greens for the pot, and we got pretty good at throwing rocks or sticks at small game. A grouse is knocked down pretty easy, and having basically a whole chicken for dinner is not too shabby!
You are a badass..good job.
You are a badass..good job.
I spent two months sleeping under a bridge just for the experience, I found it to be better than I could’ve expected. The people you meet in primitive places tend to be the most honest and caring people you’ll ever meet
Your a male..
@@sislertx open carry and name it Dave. Dave will protect you.
IMO 99% of the population will be clueless of how to survive for the next 48 hrs, let alone 14~ 30 days. Bad water is a sure killer. You can survive 13 days no food, but only 3 days without purified water, probably less than that if you drink tainted water. Do NOT rely on GPS. Go buy a Rand McNally Atlas, or at least maps of your state or region. Go on 2~3 day trips by car to remote camp sites. Learn new back routes. Try to stay off the hwys as much as possible. Getting out of the cities is a MAJOR priority. ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN, A BACKUP PLAN, AND AN EMERGENCY PLAN. Everyone in the family must stick to the plan !! Emergency rally points with backup points if needed. ONLY TELL TRUSTED PROVEN FRIENDS & FAMILY. Simple bugout bags with survival gear/ food/ water purifier methods/ FIRST AID KIT/ simple tent or shelter half,, sturdy boots xtra socks, gloves, hat ect. I know this seems like alot, but a little prepping together as a family or group will mean the difference between surviving or dying...PRAY PRAY PRAY !!!
And the richer a person is, they seem to be more miserly. First time i was homeless, many folks shared their only food with me til i could get set up. I trust my homeless (non-druggie) friends more than "landed gentry" anytime, except for one dear friend of 40 years that inherited wealth.
@@myramedicinewindkay813 , I see in your comment that you were homeless. I've been thinking to let homeless camp on my property, but I don't know how to identify the good people (non-druggie) who wouldn't be a danger to my family. Do you have any advice for how I would go about offering a place to some people, as things get worse? I figure some unhoused street people would be wise and have coping skills that may be of benefit to me and mine, and I could offer a secure place to live where nobody would harass them. I'm pretty far out in the sticks, so any kind of public services would be an issue, but they'd have access to shelter, water, a place to charge their phone, and they could garden and/or keep chickens if they wanted. I have no idea if such a thing is possible or smart, so I'd appreciate some advice.
Generally the best place is where you are (your home). The main and perhaps only reason to leave is when that location is severely threatened and your neighbors are unwilling/unable to help. Travelling introduces more variables in my opinion. Options are always preferred and having a plan b and c is prudent, but my primary is to hunker down.
Unwilling to what? Your neighbors won't give 2 shits about you when the time comes. You want help???
I wouldn't survive. I'm 52. I do have a tent teepee with a tent stove. a years worth of food. Water purifying tablets, water distillers. snow shoes. snowsuit. i live in Ontario. Between the city of Toronto and the North. There are lots of lakes and wooded areas.
i don't want to survive alone. I am stocked up on shampoo and sop ect as well as salts, spices coffee and tea.
I don't expect all these things I am saving will be for me. I can't imagine saving myself alone. I want to share. I want people with children to find my stuff.
To be honest, my biggest worry is my soul. I don't know why I'm prepping. It feels like
I'm doing it out of animal instinct, but it is not what I want. I hope that what I'm doing serves a greater purpose than my own survival.
I hope you're doing alright cuz you sound depressed, but ima say God wanted me to read your comment and remind you about your own worth, even if you don't have many people in your life to share your ideas and interests with. Prepping is a fun hobby and I'm sure you can find other prepper type groups in your area you can share this interest with. If for some reason s does htf, there is still hope for humanity to form a bond with travellers. So many years ago, humans formed friendships with other humans on a limb and that's what we have today is that hope that people can be honest and because noone survives, psychologically, alone.
@@claytonhawk8512 Very kind words. Thank you for the smile. I'm not depressed. Maybe burdened in thought, but not depressed. Yes, ISHTF, some friendly travellers would be great. It seems my people live far or are spinning in a different idea than me.
@@claytonhawk8512 when the robots rollout st yhevstores. Walmart drys and soon. People may begin to gravitate go other people.
@@margaretjones2055 what?
Thank you for you. I'm not sure what I believe in regards to the soul, but if souls exist something tells me yours will be just fine.
What a sad world it is when we have to worry/consider possible dangers with other human beings even in an end time situation.
So true. So sad.
It is so sad. When people get hungry and thirsty, it's just hard telling what they will do.
I watched the walking dead, don't trust anyone, unless his name is Rick, of course
Build a team, have a plan, learn new skills daily
@David Villalba What skills do you lack? I'll teach you the rest, when I get back. Or at least give you channels to watch from your couch.
These words are wise, as no one can be an island.
@David Villalba firearms marksmanship, personal defense classes, gunsmithing, reloading ammo, first aid, emt classes, gardening, basic automotive knowledge, carpentry, welding and fabrication, driving a fifth wheel, motorcycle, etc. Learn to barter. Sewing, list goes on but if you cant do it, know someone who can and build a team of doers. Our team have nurses, veterans, gardeners, construction workers, (need a dentist). Truck driver, electrician, gunsmith, good cooks/dieticians, we even have a helicopter pilot instructor. Learn ham radio, food storage and canning. Be of some value to your team and build value over time.
@@robertslocum2555 are you in my group? the structure you describe is all too familiar
Problem is can you really trust your team. Sure when it's all playing but when it really happens do you really trust your teammates.
When everyone runs to the woods, the woods will be a new great big cemetery because most will either succumb to the weather, animals ,or starve to death, or killed by others. My opinion is just stay home trust in Jesus, and fight until the end. I'm 55 and disabled from the military after 15 yrs. And thats what we are going to do. Your safest place to be is in your own home and neighborhood. You know the area you live in very well and the layout of of your home. Plus all your supplies are there. Get a group of people and help defend whats yours and theirs. Just my opinion.
It's your military kin that will be gathering us up ! I will take my chances in the woods !
They won't get that chance. The forests will disappear within days if not within hours. think of the campfires let alone the forest fires that will be set... like I said, within hours someone is going to start a fire, x many someones chopping or stupiding up off in them piney woods and so much for that plan.
@@PureDWhiteCloud You whats funny. I didn't even think of that. You are right.
Being disabled ,I can see your point but ,I know my chances are best in the forest ,I'm a country boy ,born in 1968 ,I may die but,I am sure that I have a 50/50 chance out there ,where as in the city ,I'm toast for sure.Take care and may the Ruach Elohim be there to help you my friend ,so be it.
@LxAxNxCxExR Your head is on straight ,good,good. Don't get me wrong ,living alone in the forest will be a little scary but .not unbearably frightening.Of course you know ,one has to have the ears of a Fox and always be alert..Take care and be good,thanks .
One of the most important things you can do in life to prepare for a SHTF situation: Be a good person. Be good to your family members. Make strong friendships. Be an ally to those you work with. If you do this, you will find that if hard times come upon you, these people will go out of their way to be sure you are not alone, starving, homeless or desperate. Bug out to family and friends if you have to leave where you are.
Wise words!
Amen to that!
Rick tried this in the Walking Dead..we all know what that got him.
hehehehe... and pass the family and friends on the road......heading towards YOUR house?!
At our age the primary purpose in prepping is to aid my son and his family in successful bugout and survival. Our survival will perhaps be short term and the future lies in him and his family. That’s just the way it is.
Well you outlined the exact purpose I prep. My family, my wife, my kids, siblings and friends all know they can come to me and we will provide as they also help us. When we work as family it’s not only kin.
That’s also my same thinking. My health is not so great & at best, (without my meds) I will survive maybe 6 mos to a year. So my prepping is mainly for my sons & their family. Plus friends, as help is needed. May God keep us all safe!✝️
Even with locations it good to have the mindset that 1 is none and 2 is 1, meaning ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP! I use this motto when storing my food and ammo.
Absolutely!
@@matztertaler2777 LMAO 🤣🤣
@@matztertaler2777 And just how are you going to feel about "back-up hubby"? Goose and Gander kind of thing...
Right.
Good point. Especially with essential items like fire starting equipment and knives etc.
Disney parks most likely will be closed, so I will bug out to Cinderella's Castle.
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Might as well! If the rest of the world goes to la la land, you might as well too. Ha ha!
This is brilliant man the last place people will go there and the nearest dmv
The underground area's, where the systems are located is, dry, warmer, and hidden from view.
All modern Park's, movie studios, have policy plans for their employees....
Rooms with bottles/case's of water, case's of protein bars... enough for all their employees for two days.
It's insurance company and human services policy plans...but not talked about.
Much won't be touched, as people leave quickly to join family members...if danger.
The bad part is these are all locations of high traffic, lot's of public, in big cities, and others will be looking for food...there.
So leaving the big cities, for remote places is best.
Most people don't know about or own weapons.
They will go to FEMA.
If you can't buy a place, then prepare a R.V.... escape.
Maps of the nearby forests are a free ticket to Ride.
Back-roads to water and fishing, jammed up under God's tree's for covering.
Better really repent., trusting in God for everything, you didn't act on to prepare... amen.
@@goodasgold2012 Amen!
You can find me in Pirates of the Caribbean--drink up me hearties yo ho!
I already live in a rural area so bugging out isn't really a concern for me. My concern is people trying to bug out to my area and bringing a bunch of drama with them. Be aware that the locals around your bug out location may not be very welcoming.
Tens of thousands of people are bugging out right now under bridges and on sidewalks in our cities
LMFAO
NYC !!!! Haaaaaa
Doing drugs*
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I understand what ur meaning. been there,done that and TBH it sucked but I'm still here and have learned some things along the way that can help when the SHTF
I'm a Michigan native, and also lived in the deep South and west coast. Believe me, climate and prevailing whether conditions must be a primary consideration. Snow, freezing temperatures, reptiles, mosquitos, heat & humidity can make or break your plan. My choice is the mid-Atlantic or Tennessee regions where nothing is too extreme. I've camped and hiked there many times. I have a well equipped teardrop with solar and a small generator that I could survive in indefinitely, and a SUV that's very reliable. Lots of secluded areas in the mountain ranges & foothills. The locals are friendly and generally conservative, and lots of natural resources. I sincerely hope none of us ever needs to run for the wrong reasons!
@NEMO Tear drops are small campers that sleep 2 people, and typically include a small kitchen built in the rear. Their shape gives them their name. They don't weigh much and are very versatile. They're extremely popular, (some people even build their own), and come in all price ranges. I have a 2014 TAG that's very reliable. Another manufacturer I like are Rustic Trail Teardrops in NC. They're priced well, good quality, and have a solid reputation. What I like about TD's is their small footprint saves on gas and insurance costs, and you can gradually add basic assesories to them that suit your needs and budget. I can also store mine in my garage, and easily tow it with my FJ Cruiser. They offer good protection from the elements, and it's easy to stay warm when it's cold. I have solar panels on mine (roof rack) that will charge the LI house batteries for basic power for lights, charging phones, radio,etc. I also have two 500 W portable power units that can charge on solar when needed. I suggest you look at at these models for starters. YT & a Google search will get you started. Cheers!
I would never bug out to TN. If the so called *horrible* big govt fails, all those damns will flood and all those nuclear power plants will melt down.
@@crystalbluepersuasion1027 wrong. as proved By browns ferry F5 tornado april 2011 you can shut down a Nuclear power plant fast. the Big problem is Can the over paid TVA workers keep the diesel Gen runing this time. Many at brownsville failed. will the Over paid TVA worker have diesel fuel on hand this time. They were runing out of diesel fuel in brownsville and did not Know that Norkfork southen Rail road had 5 million gals of Diesel fuel on hand 20 miles away. Dams will not fail as then can take can of then Self for the 1st week
A generator? What happens if there is no gas? Hopefully you have solar back up. Tc out there.
@@tickytootoo453 Yes I have solar, but the generator is dual-fuel. Will run a long time on a propane tank, and propane is also safe to store. Cheers!
Groundskeeper shack in a cemetery. Also noteworthy, there are often houses either nearby or on the grounds. It's handy for someone who keeps a cemetery or church graveyard to live either on or nearby the land. Cemeteries tend to be dark and desolate.
That was my idea!! Not many think about it or they are afraid!
An awesome idea
There's a graveyard in the countryside not that far from my house, will keep that in mind. Thanks!
Creepy!
What if grave yards are hunted,?!
I will pitch a tent on the roof of an abandoned shopping mall have tons of empty buckets to collect water. Grow some veggies. Grrhh, I should not have told anyone my secret plan. 😂
And when the next F5 tornado goes thru town...??
Trained and experienced former military/law enforcement. If you’re in a SHTF scenario and you’re alone, you’ve already lost. People wanting what you have will study your habits and wait for you to fall asleep and do you in. If you can’t or don’t have the option of being with at least one other person, get a dog. Even a small dog will alert you to trouble while you sleep. That’s what I’ve got and she stays awake while I sleep and sleeps when I get up. I didn’t train her to do that. I guess she just knows. I’ve actually filmed her doing this while I slept. Very comforting to know she’s got my back. And if you’re not going to use your dog for physical security or don’t “Need” a large dog, get a small one. They seem to be afraid of everything and they eat very little. You go squirrel hunting, pop an extra one for your dog per day and they’re happy to see you make it back home. If you have a location in the woods you think will sustain you, off the beaten path, set up your tent and hide your vehicle in the woods for the first few nights and bivvy out of your camp’s light in cover/concealment. If someone sees you going into your location, they’ll hit you within the first couple of nights. Make your camp look Lived-in so they’ll think you’re there when you’re sleeping and ambush you, but you’ll be in the dark and you can counter. Once you’ve been there for a few days, start scouting around for signs of others. Boot prints, broken branches or things that look out of place. And if you know where you’ll be going to stay, have topographical maps and a good compass of that area, plus the maps which covers the surrounding area also. Know where your campsite is on your map, but NEVER mark it on your map. Especially if you’re in a group, as if things go bad, you’ll be giving up where the rest of your group is and they’re screwed. And guys... and gals... always treat the water you’re thinking of drinking as if it has something in it that’s going to make you sick. Don’t Trust Water. Filter and boil it. Always keep with you as much as you can carry. Sooner or later, you’re going to run into a dry spell. And if you see people, ANY people who aren’t in your group, you can rest assured that if you’re captured, they’re not going to trust you, just like you wouldn’t trust them. This is long-winded, I know. But let the voice of experience guide you. And lastly, if you’re lucky enough to have others with you, show, don’t tell, but show them on Your map where you’re going and about when you plan on returning. Everyone as a group and as individuals have a plan in case someone doesn’t come back on time so that both the group and the lost knows what each other will do in this event. When you break camp, never leave a “Tell” as to how many of you there are or which way you are going and never travel in a straight line. Just some things for everyone to think about. God Speed.
I honestly wouldn't want a dog in that scenario. They'd bark when you're trying to be quiet and alert everyone
Good advice.
This guy has all the answers, doesn't he? He's praying for a disaster just so he can be relevant again.
I'm also former military (Marine) and law enforcement (municipal police officer) and neither the military or law enforcement taught me how to survive a societal collapse. And those veterans out there believing the falsehood that their military shooting skill will save them (short of scout/sniper experience) are deluded. I though I was awesome at shooting/marksmanship until I was introduced to a guy from Oklahoma who, in one minute, showed me just how low level my skill really was.
The hubris of most veterans and cops is exactly what will get them shwacked in the first 48 hours of any possible shtf situation.
Great advice. Helpful, thanks
I knew an Army Ranger in college that had taken a year and lived on a 5-acre area on a mountain with nothing but a sleeping bag and a mess kit and canteen. I remember he also had a good hunting knife. He shared that anyone can survive a week in the wild if they have half a brain. But the real test of a survivor is can you survive all 4 seasons. In Texas, it's hot and the bugs come out in the summer. The winter can be cold for a few days but it usually warms up a few days until January and February. In the mountains, or near the northern borders it can get really cold at night. There are many things to consider.
I didn't know you had a vid on this , so I'll raise this topic one more time... all land is owned by somebody. If you bugout to land you don't own, you'll be squatting illegally and run the risk of being runnoff or worse. There is a way to make a better choice rather than a worse one, when looking for bugout spots. Pick the county where you plan to bugout to. Look up the tax map for that county. It's a plat map that shows the names of who pays the property tax for each parcel of land in that county. Look for plots of land on that map which are owned by taxpayers who are government entities or large corporations such as logging or forestry companies or gas or utility companies. Or plots of land owned by local, state, or federal government. If this land which is owned by a faceless entity and not a private person checks out to look good on a satellite image and you find no landfills, nuclear power plants, etc, and it's near water, etc, it may be a place you could squat without making the locals angry. A gas company or a timber company isn't likely to come check on the land and evict you after shtf. But if you accidentally setup in farmer John's woods or his pasture, you're going to have a rude awakening one morning, or in the middle of the night. Find corporate or government land, and don't squat on land owned by private persons. Use an online or county courthouse tax map to find the info to make good decisions now, before you're desperate for a place to lay your head at night.
Very very very true.... stay off private land!!!
Thank you. One piece of the puzzle I was missing.
An excellent, well thought out reply. I thank you for that since I'm one of those farm owners who'll have zero tolerance for anyone trespassing on my land during a crisis. Having said that I think way to many people overlook another option regarding land owners & that's simply having a skill to offer that's attractive enough to make you worth keeping around. We own a small farm & it's just the two of us so if say someone with a ranger tab on his arm showed up with his wife & kids I'd try to cut a deal with them in exchange for help defending our place. In a longer term situation where there's no power or fuel planting & harvesting crops, even getting water to livestock, will become chores that require extra hands & there might be an opening there for those willing to work hard. I can honestly see small communities cropping up on existing farms if people are willing to cooperate so that they all have a better shot at surviving. I see no use for lawyers & politicians in SHTF scenarios though. I see no use for them now so some things will remain the same. lol
@@Amber-mv8wz , I completely agree. We have a small place, 25 acres, and there are 5 of us. It's possible we wouldn't be able to 'hold' our land by ourselves, keep watch, do normal daily tasks, etc, in such a situation. I too would very much consider taking in a family of useful people (people willing to work with us and take a turn at watch). I'd likely put a family at each corner of our land so everyone could have some privacy and their own space, and also watch the property lines. But they'd have to have useful people. I'd happily take elders and little kids, as they are a perfect match for each other. Elders have wisdom and little kids are great for tasks, and they can watch out for each other. But there'd need to be some adults too, who can stand a 3am watch and alert us.
Most of Canada's northern forest is government owned. Who is going to come and ask you to move on in a SHTF situation? Probably nobody...., that's where we will go.
Planning your route is as important as planning the location. I suggest you pick the location, then find the waypoints - towns along the way. Part of your ‘prep’ has to include making friends with some locals. I suggest:
- One weekend a month you pick a town on the route and go there.
- Get a room at a local motel; shop at some local stores; eat at local dives; attend a local church meeting.
- Tell the folks you meet that you live in the city, but want to explore the local (smaller) towns because you’re thinking of moving there one day.
- Take CAREFUL NOTES of everyone you meet, the resources there, etc. keep a notebook for each town. You don’t know what details will save your life later, so track everything.
- Return often enough that folks recognize you! Attend their local events and fairs.
When the SHTF, it is STRANGERS that the locals will be wary of. They may even be hostile towards them. But when YOU show up, you are a friend.
And who knows but that you might find the perfect location while you are at it.
Good luck with all of that
As a person that lives in a small village outside of a mid-size city I can tell you right off the top, your not going to just be allowed to move thru most places after a SHTF event. Every place will have setup a blocker group to stop you. It will be a gun fight for every mile you try to move away from the big cities. Your only hope is to be where your going when it happens. I know for sure it's what will happen. It will not be evil or bad people doing it. Just folks that also want to survive.
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I think this rings true and I agree... My theory about this is fourfold...
First, most people in cities will bug-in during the first few days of chaos. It is said that any city is three meals away from starvation because cities typically have food supplies enough for about 3 days on hand. In the first stages of shtf, there will be both confusion as to how long the emergency will last AND immense pressure from local government for people to either stay put or move to concentration centers. You also have to realize that the only ones capable of leaving will be younger more able bodied people, but there will be a lot of pressure for them to stay to take care of those who can't leave. Once the local government fails, the warlords will step in.
Second, cities will devolve into a bunch of connected regions whose boundaries are tightly policed by local warlords. The warlords will soon realize that the size of their population determines the strength of their power (due to ability to gather resources and ability to conscript soldiers and thus project force to their neighbors and defend their own borders), and so they will quickly realize they cannot afford to allow people to leave. This applies especially to those younger more able bodied people. They will be needed to maintain the warlord's claimed region and they will be enticed to be soldiers for the warlord by the promise of food and other resources that they can give to their older more infirm family that was the reason for them to stay in the first place.
Third, most of these regions in a city environment will be interlocked with other regions, so if you don't get out within the first few days of chaos, you won't be physically able to cross other regions to eventually escape the city. You will either have to pay tolls the whole way, be conscripted to fight for the local warlord whose region you are trying to cross, or simply shot on sight.
And fourth, it will be in the best interest of those outside the cities, especially IMMEDIATELY outside the cities, to contain the city people to the cities. There will be a point where the lawlessness of the cities ends and the remnants of legit local governments begins, probably with a DMZ in between. These will be heavily policed because it's in everyone's interests outside the cities to keep the cities contained. There might even be trade routes set up to both keep the cities at least partially supplied and thus contained, and to enrich those in control of the border areas, who very well might be backed up by the remnants of the US government who will immediately recognize they need to keep the cities contained at all costs if for nothing else the sake of their own power.
So that is roughly 50% of the population taken out of the game immediately, because they will be locked in the cities and almost nobody will think to escape in the first few days. Will this stop absolutely everyone? Of course not, there will always be holes for people to sneak through, but nobody will get through with any amount of projectable force.
It all depends on how fast you move out
Small town USA, you’ll be welcome right up till said disaster. After the SHTF, you will be treated as an invader. Don’t expect country hospitality to let you slide in or through.
You validated my concern. I live on the edge of suburbia…. Too close for comfort, and not far enough out to be secure. Surrounded by Karens and Mr. Karens who can’t do anything without authority’s blessing. I really need to get out of here lol
If you are stuck in the cities look below your feet, there is are tons of spots below, tunnels, vaults, forgotten areas, commercial and industrial area/ facilities are full of them.
Warehouse basements, sewer tunnles, maintenance passages. Plenty of places to hide.
Abandoned businesses or warehouses
@@marleyjr00 if you do that, remember water is essential, you could wash up in a mop sink by leaning over the sink and letting water run
In my city, a good portion of those underground tunnels are already occupied by our ever increasing homeless population. Drug users also use those areas to dip off from police and partake in their vices. That is an awesome idea, but i think it depends on the city, or at least, the section of the city you are located.
@@Dominini Former NYer here. Yup, that was my first thought. Can't imagine a scenario where being in a city outside of your home would be a great option during some crisis.
Your next vehicle should be something you can live in. There are many CZcams channels about nomads living on wheels, everything from a Prius, SUV, Vanlife, RV's. Also, many CZcams videos on how to find free campsites on BLM and National Forest land. Nevada is mostly BLM land. Park in the desert on a hill and you can see people coming from miles around you.
Good point, there should be a video on the best cities or states to live in a vehicle since there are probably laws against it in some places.
I agree with that perspective! That’s why I have my 4x4 Tacoma and a rooftop tent. That was one of my intents with the purchase. While it may be a luxury right now, it can become my emergency home/shelter 👍🏼
This comment alone have sealed the deal for me. I've been considering this for quite a while now.
A good place to start is the CZcams channel and website for 'CheapRVLiving'. The host is Bob Wells and he has many videos on how to live in a vehicle, how to find free dispersed camping, etc. The Western USA has tons of BLM and National Forests where you can stay for free up to 14 days before having to move on to the next free site. Just search for the topics that you want. He interviews people living in almost every conceivable vehicle from a motorcycle pulling a trailer of gear to Class A RVs. There are an estimated 1 to 2 million people living in vehicles (estimates vary). Many are just surviving on Social Security and many have $$$ and are just doing it to pursue a pressure free minimalist life.
@@donh5794 There are many videos on how and where to live in your car. The best is in the Western USA. Lots of open spaces. It is better to be out on BLM or National Forest (Not National Parks as you can't camp there for free). It's less safe in the urban areas, you get broken into a lot more. Some people actually live in vehicles in urban areas like San Francisco Bay Area because rents are so expensive. They all park in the industrial areas with vans and old RVs. Then they commute to work. They are less nomadic and more static.
Ive been a prepper here in australia for 3 years, saw what was happening around the world and people said i was crazy and paranoid then the Chinese flu hit, people were panicking and turning to me for advice and asking "how did you know? " its been on CZcams for along time just have to read the signs, some people listen, some people dont. Awesome content keep up the great work 👍👽🇦🇺
Chinese flu. !! Where did you go to college? Oh, you didn't. I'm a predijuced Republican also, but that's really racist.
@@cherylperkins7538 its not racist it originated in china.or dont you read.
@@geoffknight7803 I read. Have my Masters. Just don't spread hateful stuff. Germany did some awful things to my elderly neighbors. Trump is German but I don't refer to him as a Nazi.
@@cherylperkins7538 your forgetting the Chinese flu originated in CHINA, so education, trump and your neighbors have nothing to do with it, im going to keep calling it the Chinese flu and not you or anyone else is going to stop me from that so bad luck princess.
@@cherylperkins7538 move along Cheryl
Sold the overpriced “dream home on a lake” and bought a smaller house on 80 acres bordering thousands of acres of national forest. From there, builds a smaller cabin a few miles away on a substantial creek. Stored seeds, bows, arrows, ammo, tarps, and lots of hand tools to recreate anything that breaks. From there, it’s just scouting, practicing, and teaching my family. Good luck all!
Get a community too, that will be crucial for protection against gangs and all sorts of unforeseen events like getting sick or having some other unexpected event
Railroad tracks are great travel ways to go that people don't use, and they lead to the most remote spots. Small islands on lakes are another great choice, jusr be ready to defend you location. Stay away from abandoned city buildings, get away from major population areas!
I aint takin no tracks!
We are heading into the city when said shit hits the fan. We will save as many as we can and then some. all life is precious and people are a resource
I have been hiking on the train tracks for years. I rarely see anyone out there.
Idea for a bug out vehicle: a bicycle with a side car such that the wheels are the same width as the train tracks. It would require rollers to keep you centered on the rails. But, could have a big payload, be very quiet, and give you a long range for no fuel useage
When there is more chaos there will probley be more people on the train tracks. Just don't get hit by a train! Meaning dont use headphones or you will not hear the train!
When I was a kid back in the 70s I used to play on the tracks all the time. Then in the 90s my brother and I were walking down the tracks to see the 4th of July fireworks and a security guard stopped us and politely informed us those days are over. Neither of us need trouble with the law so we've been staying off the tracks since.
I've always preferred the concept of bunkering and defending my home. I live in Brazil, and my house has very few entrances, it's not open to the sides like US houses, instead having other houses immediately to its sides, so, in my opinion, bunkering down is more of a viable choice to me. Plus, I don't live that far away from the countryside, so, in case I actually have to leave my home for a reason or another during SHTF, I can pretty easily disappear into the woods... Not that I'd survive for long there, but still.
My place has one way in and if they come in then it's over for them
Are you allowed to own firearms in Brazil?
I think it’s smarter to just stay where you are at first then as things get closer your house and you can’t be safe then flee. Ugh 🤦♀️ hate thinking about it
@@xk1119 It's a really complicated process if you want to get a gun. Most people, even honest, hard-working people, prefer to buy the guns ilegally, and I see no problem in that since the government wants to act like we're retarded. But of course, I personally can't own a gun yet, I'm 15.
The problem with sheltering in place is that not only are other humans a threat, but specifically the humans who form government agencies. The government is the biggest threat and if you're in your home they know where to find you
The 114* June heatwave in Washington State almost did me in! I had to bug out to a neighbors with AC. They are 75 and 80. Refuse to stock food. I'm storing extra for them as they saved my life!
We also rode out the 114 degree heat in Washington state. Two years ago our friends had to evac from a forest fire and they stayed with us for two weeks, they would do the same for us and that way we will survive. They don’t prep, instead they trust God to provide, maybe that’s why God brought me through some very dangerous situations.
@@Iceberg050 I love this!
I'm English and would love to live somewhere with such an array of open spaces, stay home as long as you can then head to open water or coastal areas, humans have been living on the coast from the beginning and the amount of debris and helpful item you can collect is wild blowing. stay safe America
Another term for bugging out on foot is, “refugee “. Something to be avoided if at all possible.
But circumstances might dictate you having to do so.
I feel that thinking outside the box is vital. So is having more than one plan. The event causing you to bug out might be directly between you and your bug out location. Always good to have more than one option.
Exactly !!
@Dave Stephens I don't know what goshen's is
A refugee is someone without a plan or a predetermined destination but did manage to escape the situation (usually from a city). Don't be that person.
@@spacegamer85 You dont have to live like a refugee. You dont have to live like a refugee.
Now is the time to leave the coasts & cities, not after the event.
Never wait to bug out until your completely out of resources. Know your area well...
If you know foraging you will never be without resources
@@jprice21144 This is true. I camp and can survival at the minimum. Sources and Navigation, skills that can't be taken away from you. You loose everything as in destruction or stolen from you. You're still going to make it and be OK.
I live in what is considered Northern Canada...I grew up 20 miles upriver of a village Called Horsefly British Columbia....Google Earth it..... Living off the land isn't that difficult if that is something you grew up doing, from growing a garden to trapping, fishing and hunting. The safest option is to find people you can trust and work as a team. Safety in numbers. This also allows for a divers skill group, Doctors, Tradespeople and or people who know how to sew and such make great additions to any group, SAVE ammo, Fish set traps and snares as much as you can...or a bow and cross bow....they are quiet and arrows and bolts are easier to make than powders
I live on a mountain Half an hours drive from 2 towns in opposite directions . I have a creek that runs through the bottom of my 11 acres. I have an extra house down the hill on 3 acres next to a river. I have lots of canned food , wood stoves and generator. I think I'm happy and well set up. I'm a retired veteran.
Very good place
You'd think this comment would get 100,000 likes. Envy I'd suppose. Great for you Keith! I used to have 30 acres of the same. Neither the ex or I got to keep it. Solution: Never get married.
Ideal👍
A cave is high living in the bush. Trapping is preferred over hunting as it produces much better results. A tent is WAY better than living under a tarp. A log structure or a cabin is fairly simple to build in a few days if you have some food on hand.
"A log structure or a cabin is fairly simple to build in a few days" What are you smoking, dude? Do you have a link to this "few days" cabin build?
A 8x8 cabin can be built rather quickly if you are not chasing after the basics of food and water, etc. A Mc mansion like your likely dreaming of isn't going to be done anytime soon.
@@rabbitron85 With HOW many hammers, nail and arms ...for a few days. Hahahahaha
@@anothercomment3451 have you watched any bushcrafting videos? Some of these can be done without nails and hammers, but you may need to shovel and a hatchet and a saw.
@@1Outis1 I watched only once... which was sufficient, for me. LoL
Its amazing how this year has woken folks up to preparedness. I teach emergency prep in NC and I've seen all kinds of new business come my way. Lots of first timers that are timid about getting into it and even some established preppers and homesteaders looking for some consulting help.
I think its great. The more people who have some type of preperation the less crazy things can get. Idk why people looks at preppers as crazy, or why think this way of life that we know cant be taken from us.
@@brandyprice7578 well said. Too many people have this stereotype of preppers only being the loony doomsday type that can't have a rational conversation.
@@savage_the_wild or they all believe in crazy conspiracy theories. I just want to be prepared just in case nothing wrong with that. I don't know or care about the dates the world is supposedly ending because it never happens. Im sure if things get crazy no one will know the exact date just like covid it happened very quickly.
@@brandyprice7578 yep same here. Im an emergency preparedness teacher and ive dealt with all kinds of weirdos. But I flat out refuse service to those kinds and mostly work with level headed folks that are homesteaders or people wanting to get into it and learn a bit of hands on skills.
wife and I live near the coast of NC as well both of getting a little up the years retired actually and if the SHTF we'd be done which it's more obvious now more than ever it's really terrifying
It's funny, used to laugh at the crazy people hoarding and prepping, now I'm ready to learn.
@8:20 you make a good point; remember "Into the Wild" about Chris McCandless in Alaska, who holed up in an old school bus but starved to death anyway. Tragic but instructive.
I hear a lot of I am bugging out to the woods...Most of those will die in a few weeks...Unless you have the skills to live out there done go...Also, you might want to have supplies stashed, add lime and fertilizer...with seed and tools to work the ground...I know, I spend lots of time in the woods...
I lived in the Woods and lived in the country, lived in the hood of the city. I can make it anywhere, I can blend in anywhere. I served 15 years in prison. I been homeless so many times. I lost so much in my life time. Going through a SHTF would be a cake walk for me.
Now your one of the types I’d like to link up with I need survivors around me not that I haven’t prepared with food water guns and ammo alternative heat sources seeds ect but in my house of two I am the only prepper and it’s quite lonely I will have to reach out here in vt see who’s got the same mindset in these perilous times ahead
Yep. Living that rough life will turn you into a survivor. I've been homeless myself so sleeping out in the freezing cold, being hungry, and having to worry about getting robbed is no new thing for me.
Best wishes
Good i would not know what to do! I'd would need a partner
Blessings to you,please be safe,n you will be ok if shtf situation,God is with you🙏
A bug out shelter has to be under ground in the wilderness. Satellites, planes and drones will find you above ground.
A drone can easily find you underground from your heat signature
@@johnsmith-bk4ps With all of the technology today, I believe it would be extremely difficult to live undetected for very long. God help us.
If I have to "bug-out" i'm moving my RV into a secure location like a national forrest, this feels like the most viable solution in a short -med term SHTF scenario for a family. This gives me option to keep all my prep ready to go and have flexibility to relocate to different locations if needed.
You and every other Magoo
There's over 188.3 Million acres of national Forrests in the US so there's plenty of land to go around if you live in the right state and know where to go.. and I do
@@Jack_all if your rv will make there you will find others already there and not happy to see you
Do your self a favor and find a out of town relative/friend to stay with if it's local or regional. If it's country wide, then why leave. Every place is the same place eventually. People follow resources. And if ya just gotta go then just take a van or car and park somewhere. Nothing worse than sleeping outside in the elements. It's unsafe, unpractical, and unpredictable. If you're headed to the bush because things have gotten that bad then you've got way bigger problems to worry about.
That's the whole point of hypothetical SHTF exercises though. Staying in won't be the same for everyone. If you live in a city where like limited resources are in high demand you will be struggling a lot more than someone who lives in a more rural area where resources may be much more plentiful, especially to those who know how to utilize them. If your plan is to load up a van and park it somewhere at least you've removed sheltering concern but there are several other survival needs that still need to be met. How far would you be able to travel and how long could you live in that van once you got there or ran out of gas is a question I would ask myself. Forming a preparedness community with like minded individuals is the best option in my opinion.
@@deoccupyhawaii6268 I just don't think people understand how hard it is living outdoors. There is a certain romanticism people attach to it. But if you drive across our great nation you become quickly aware there are people everywhere that most could get to. And even places that we couldn't are almost always known to locals . It's just hard to find a unknown out the way spot with a water source nearby. Water means animals and animals mean game and game means hunters which locals will surely be. I wouldn't advocate leaving the city because it's my stomping grounds. I know it well. Water sources and food are abundant if your willing eat what's available. And like I tell everyone, unless you have a bunker with a well hidden exhaust and intake we all are dealing with the same issue of security. If it gets that bad then any fool with a match can burn you out if he is determined and has even a small amount of people and common sense. Unless it's an absolute reason to leave (poison gas or biological) I'm staying put. Rural areas aren't the paradise people think and certainly won't be welcomed with open arms by communities. Hunting out there isn't easy especially with others that already know the lay of the land and game trails. Best stay where you at least know something about your surroundings.
@@latymz Living outdoors is definitely not something most modern-day folks could sustain, but it's possible. There are a few potential positives to staying put if you're in a city that comes together but in my mind the potential or a hostile environment to initially develop is much greater. We already got a brief example of what happens when laws aren't enforced. Even if you know your area well, If you don't have access to clean water and a renewable source of calories, you won't make it very long no matter how secure your mansion or bunker might be.
Establishing homesteading communities is the only way to ensure indefinite survivability.
@@deoccupyhawaii6268 I agree on multiple points. But in the end I have people that can't make it outside because of age and health. I could and would never leave them so for me it's not even a option. Even if it was I would still stay put, I don't know a enough about outdoor survival to trust my life to it. I don't much worry about violence in the city. Been here my entire life in some of the worst areas. If I'm ever in a position to aquire a nice quiet spot in a area that would be accepting I would probably entertain it but it would have to be a community of like minded individuals because when your alone and isolated that's worse than being in the city of desperates if your attacked. But I digress...,.
@@latymz again, just because you're familiar with your city and have lived there your whole life doesn't mean it is a better option when SHTF. The frail and elderly will not last long and wilderness survival isn't as difficult as you might initially think, start practicing fire starting and acquiring gear. You'll need to have basic skills even if you're in a city and especially if you're going to try to be caretaking others. My guess is that you would willing be rounded up to the nearest FEMA camp within the first few weeks.
Keep in mind, if you can bug out to an abandoned building, especially in a city, many others will too. When that happens, dont expect to have cordial roommates.
One prepper suggested going to the roof of an abandoned building.
@@americafirst9144 Bruh, that's a pretty dumb thing to do.
@@americafirst9144 that is a.bad idea. A group of people could just find you toss you off and walk away with all you stuff. Homeless, and criminaly minded people will easily figure that out... desperate people are untrustworthy and sneaky and will turn on you in a heartbeat. Don't trust some guy who just tells you things. Think........ about what people are saying before you take their advice
Abandoned buildings probably full of mold too, to give you a lung infection!
Oh and caves, that’s where bats live, which carry viruses.
The only problem is that honest people are never gonna survive whatevers coming, as long as others are willing to lie, cheat, steal and kill without a second thought.
Psalm 37:9-11 “For evil men will be done away with, but those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth. Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace”
... tragedy of the commons
Good point, John S ... One reply quoted ... Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more ... from a psalm of Kind David, who slew Goliath and then tens of thousands more and then had the psalms done as songs of worship. Yeah, war is not our first choice, but war it is and we are not to turn away. We should rid ourselves of those who follow the "liar and murderer from the beginning" as Jesus called their mentor, the devil, this so the good can sleep at night. Until then, war continues. Gen 3:15 ... Hatred of evil is to stay good, to follow God. Teaching children there is a God-given place for hatred seems to be lost on many parents these days.
What makes you think an honest person won't kill? We're allowed to defend ourselves and our loved ones.
And that's why so many peppers are republican. Not honest. Not good people.
I know where you DONT want to be, living near a prison, correctional facility or probation housing.
Or near me!
these people will have been locked up and not released yet in 90 days , you would rescue them , The Walking dead taught us that
Aren't most of those near industrial parks or like in a downtown city areas anyway?
@@MikinessAnalog not in Texas they are like there own rural city, the jails are in the city they will be let go to help with military in a disaster
Your just dumb for this comment
One of my coworkers had a small breakdown after his divorce. He went out on some bml land and built a small cabin in the woods and lived there for 2 years. He came to visit his adult children one day. He found out his ex had cancer. He lived in his truck at Walmart during the week while he worked at Walmart at night. Then went to his cabin on the weekend. He helped to pay his ex-wife's hospital bills with his kids. He would go to her apt to help her get better. She healed up and left society with her husband and returned to his cabin with him. Still there to this day.
Coolest thing I've heard in a long time!
Wao amazing story.
Amazing!
Now that is true love. Not like the garbage on TV.
God bless them
I live in Great Britain, less places to hide. Trouble is most people would seek the same place to hide.
I would dress up as a bartender and hide in a pub. Don’t you guys have wonderful pubs over there?
Many would go to the Tube...
Prior preparation is essential. The best bug out location is one where no one can find you.
Get a personalised map/s centered on your home or place of work for example. Check out possible locations. Spend time walking or driving to them (a good bicycle is an alternative for quiet travel).
Accessing those areas will expose difficulties with owners, people passing through etc. Make a weekend hobby of it.
Surprisingly you can often find good sites within a couple of miles from home....esp. sites for temporary bug outs.
In a true shtf situation i highly doubt the sheriff's are going to come evict you. They'll have more important tasks. Great ideas and info. Thanks
In a widespread catastrophic shtf situation there likely won't be any authorities to fear. They'll be busy ensuring their own survival. Military/police are just people doing a job for money.
@@mal798 true
Is that even legal? Only one way in and out? What if there's an emergency? Fire flood earthquake active shooter (don't say it's impossible to get weapons into the park because it isn't) my bug out apartment has three windows and one door. It was designed for senior citizens and the handicapped. Now after almost 35 years they are in violation for no emergency exit.
Hi City Prepping. Bugging out is not an option for me. Without leaving a long drawn out comment for the reasons I ask for prayers. I pray daily and prep for my 3 furbabies and me.
If you stay in the city, it’s only a matter of time before the power and water grids goes down and the city turns into chaos... the gangs, thieves, and marauders who will also be struggling for survival will eventually come to where you are.
It’s not too late, you still may be able to reach out to someone you know in a more rural location away from the city. You can take your survival supplies / resources and pets there at the first sign of trouble / civil unrest.
You can also reach out to a wider community of preppers (online) who may have room for you and your pets at their location if / when disaster comes. You may offer to bring your supplies and offer any services (i.e. medical, sewing, labor, security, etc.) to buy your way into their community.
Again, at the first signs of civil unrest, you should be able to pack-up and evacuate your city location within an hour... do not hesitate!
This all seems like a popular fantasy. My reality is I am in my 60's and a grandmother to little ones. We live in the same apartment complex. I have pets. While I HAVE been prepping for disasters for a couple of months, WHERE on earth would we ALL go? I dont have friends and family elsewhere especially in rural areas. Its just not practical to "bug out".
@@NoMoreTears64 This is a lot of peoples stories. Your story is like mine. No friends or family in any rural places. 😩
No need to fear when your with Jesus Christ
I will keep you and your furbabies in my prayers. I understand bugging out not being an option. I could go off and survive on my own. The thing is my sister lives close by. She has 2 babies and 2 teenagers. My mother also lives close by. I would feel bad leaving on my own. I would have to stay close by to help them out. So I will be praying for our safety and for the safety of others.
I have been through a couple of disasters and by far the number ONE thing to watch out for is other people. It's strange how they are great people when everything is going fine only to see them lose their minds when disaster hits. If you are bugging out when/after disaster hits you are extremely unprepared and unwise. I would only say that if you want to bug out you need to do it NOW!
Best advice ever!
@@myramedicinewindkay813 Well, that comment was written 8 months ago and the S has not yet HTF, so I would say it was at least a little premature.
@@reethreepio7220 Yes Im glad I did not bug out one year ago!!
i wisely spent the last year living in an abandoned mine after reading your comment. I expect I will succumb to death any day now, but I am extremely prepared to do so. Thank you 41crow. Thank you.
After watching part of this video screw bugging out! I've got plenty of ammo! I'm just going to keep shooting until I'm dead or nobody's left!
Great inexpensive option; storage units. Poke around and find one that’s out in the sticks, put some preps in there. When you need to, bug out to it. Solid buildings, security already built in, pre staged gear.
Better be one without an on site manager or it will never work.
Not if the power grid goes down, I have a storage unit and it's third floor with no stairs. Everything is locked down needing power
Best to have a small box trailer at storage, rough looking is good. Pre staged without notice.
Nowhere to go. Buggin out in place.
True
Me too!
Me too. I’m old, live in an urban setting and not in the best neighborhood. I wouldn’t last 5 minutes out there on my own and literally have nowhere to go. I have to shelter in place so I’m doing what needs to be done to survive. I do have a bug out bag just in case but know that my chances are better staying put. Besides,I can’t shoot for shit.
I'm in SE Virginia. My new problem. Just got a letter from nuclear power plant. They have reminded of of our nuclear shelter. Looking at the map, we are in a strategic location for the government military. I wouldn't put it past the government to pull a false nuclear emergency in order to gain (annex) the land we're on. My plans have always been to stay in place until yesterday.
Virginia
Yup ,. Sister and i sold mountain land ., now i live single in my 1 bedroom apt ., which is very secure ., it has 1 entrance, 1 exit .., to bug out is to be lost ... im found ... 👍
Many of us have already picked several ideal spots or areas but getting there can be the tricky part. I've been noticing several websites that show abandoned railroad tracks. Being in the open like that has it's risks but is easier to traverse then hoofing it through the woods. If you have old tracks on your pre-planned escape route it might not hurt to print that map and have it in your bug-out supplies.
I’ve been a river rat since childhood. Just spent 3 months paddling the Missouri. The Mississippi River system is ideal. You can move , Hide follow the weather or game.
Wait! You're Huckleberry Finn, ain't ya?
I have 2 possible bug-out locations. Both of them are 'county' parks; one is here in Iowa, the other is in Montana. The latter is where I grew up & know very well. I spent 3 tours in Antarctica, as both pararescue & teaching extreme cold weather survival. I was selected {volunteered?} b/c of my having been born and raised in North Central MT, very near the Canadian border, which made me uniquely qualified for such a position. [US Navy "Operation Deepfreeze" 1977-1980].
I worked in the Arctic for over 30 years and have camped out in -35F. The best way to camp in deep snow is dig a trench and cover it. Fast and it works. I worked with a mountain climber that told me this when we worked together. You might have heard of him, Vern Tajas.
If you don't have a bug out location you can afford, it means you are homeless. Been there, done that. I knew that training would come in handy.
Why not both? Being homeless is the only reason I can afford my tiny remote bit of land, haha :P I get what you're saying though just presenting my example to be cheeky
What kind of training?
@@JakeKlineMusic I can't speak for them but I'm fairly sure they're referring to the experience of homelessness
@@ItsAsparageese oh, right. Thanks.
So I think the survival training would cover shelter and security really well, but as for scavenging I don't think too many homeless people do harvesting of wild edibles or guerilla homesteading, unfortunately? LOL I'm hoping against hope that you have seen otherwise.
I work in utility forestry, and it's quite common for people to assert ownership of land they have no legal right over
When I lived in monastery we had our own tomatos, potatos, herbs, chickens, carrots, olives, honey, we were pretty much suficient, and I guess if shtf while I was there, we were fish as well, because the monastery was at the seaside. The seaside is great! When shtf I'll probable go in some monastrery, or by some mountain river, I'll see, I love that too, but my husband needs to agree first and children, but what I can say is: there are a lot of people right now who live in the proximity of some monasteries, already. They moved there a few years ago, because they know the time is close, and they, all together with monks or nuns, grow crops and animals together. They moved there because it's secluded and so they don't miss God's services. That's my plan. I just need to get my husband to agree. God bless to all of you out there in the world.
After surviving in the wild for several months one thing I learnt is that the best bug out bag you can have is your Brain. knowledge is the key to survival. All the cool emergency gadgets and bug out bags might help for a short while but being able to survive without anything is the key to how long you can last. Learn about what to eat, how and where to make shelter, how to make fire several different ways. I had a bug out bag but when I got lost in the West Virginia wilderness I did not have it with me. All I had was a day pack containing 1 bottle of water, some snacks, and a small pocket knife. I was lost for 14 weeks. Only my survival knowledge kept me alive.
You don't have survival knowledge or you wouldn't have gotten lost
@@johnsmith-bk4ps Even the best survival trained people get lost sometimes.
@@63phillip where? In a national park? You don't have gps? I grew up hiking mountain ranges. You blew it
@@johnsmith-bk4ps Was not in a national park and back then there was no GPS. I was in a canyon and could not find my way out . I was 19 at the time.
I had some understanding of where I was at but was having a hard time getting out.
@@63phillip Did you make it to the news? if not, your story isnt true.
An old abandoned Cemetery lodging in a crypt would be a good choice plus it's very quiet or in abandoned mausoleum also very quiet
I hang out at cementarys alot ..its so peaceful. And no one visits the dead anymore..my dog loves walking and he sleeps while I pray and read ...we play music sometimes... I feel safe there as well...nothing creepy ....
Is it near food and water?
@@lisakenitz1104 My dog just likes to pee on the graves...
A prepper should always have supplies that's what prepping is all about and should that abandoned Cemetery have a pool of water I would suggest not to drink it could have formaldehyde in the water and as far as food there are many animals that lives in cemeteries I am a prepper Semper Fi
@Timothy Mckee I fully expect to become a Democrat voter after I die! Republican for life, Democrat for death... Apparently, I can vote Democrat for at least 100 years!
A great way to get into the wood is to walk along RR Tracks. There are also solar panels along the tracks and in isolated areas old railroad cars that RR workers stay in from time to time
I have a friend who moved from the city to a rural area in Wisconsin with the thought of "getting away." That was about 5 yrs ago. Now, he said, you wouldn't believe how many city people are renting or trying to establish footing in his area. (no cell service in his area!) Many are claiming hardship of some kind and start off by going to a local church to "get to know" their kind neighbors. The net result is that he's seen those people taking advantage of the homesteaders already there. They look for sympathy and wind up being entwined within the once quiet community. Moral of the story: if you think you're going to "bug-out" to a remote location and be safe you're wrong. It will only be a matter of time until you're surrounded or infiltrated. They won't storm your property, they go in another way...
At my age my bug out location is my grave, where ever that may be. Yes and I also happen to have a lot of survival skills.
I had a dream of bugging out with an older couple and we survived together. I would be down to do that with you! haha, seriously, I think starting a community is the best shot.
@@18despues think about it? Man will and can not survive by himself for an extended period of time with out assistance. Look at history.
@@18despues let’s hope it does not come to having to pick a side.
@@christinamoneyhan5688 ummm that's already happened, haven't you seen the last 4 years?
Plenty of caves in Missouri one of the caves that’s open for tours has an entire off limits area that is a fall out shelter for politicians.
The bugging out to an abandoned building seems in many circumstances a bit of a weird idea, after all, your current residence is now ..... an abandoned building!!
The most important skills you can ever learn is how to become 100% self-sufficient. Know where you can get bush food and practice essential survival skill before the SHTF.
Happy New Year from Down-Under
Stick to the roads. I live on a farm which we walk a couple of times a day. I've had a couple of strangers walk up on me while I was tending my bees. They were far off the road and were immediately told that trespassing is illegal and to move on. Ever since this incident I'm always armed, as is my husband, even when tending the chickens. Property owners will be even more vigilant if vagabonds are roaming around.
Shoot, shovel, shut up.
Hey mam im rusty we have tàlkèd.... I'll wait here till you find yourself man?
Penelope Penobscot, have you ever thought of inviting those vagabonds to stay and pay you a bit of rent and give them a few chores or assign them an area to guard? If they felt a sense of home or belonging, they might help you defend your place from others. It would depend on if they seemed like alright folks, or if they gave you bad vibes.
@@oneperson5760 Hungry and desperate people in a disaster are more inclined to violence and looting. Every gone days on the without food? If you've never experienced it before logic and kindness start to fade pretty quickly after 2 days. Survival mode kicks in. Do NOT trespass. It will not end well. Find public property like a state forest to bug out to.
@@dan.diggleryes, but it's only the sociopaths who will be a problem to someone helping them, especially after only 2days. They make up a good 10% though and would pose a HUGE problem.
The comment was referring to taking on good people down on their luck, to help work the land
I'm not bugging out. I'm bugging in.
Finding that place to hide is the easy part, but long term food and water source isn't! Unfortunately you can't carry enough of it. Thanks for sharing this info!
Just start eating all the vegetation off the tree branches around you.
This topic has been batted around in my family for years. This vid provides new ideas that could actually work. Thanks!
My suggestion is to create positive ties with your community so that as many people as possible feel supported and respected. Strong communities are the key to defending against every man or women for themselves mentality. There's loads of evidence that supports creating kinder gentler communities for survival. Taking care of each other and the planet is key. Be well.
I'm a civil engineer and have maps and records to water drainage systems, old tunnels, parts of the erie canal, duct banks. Alternative spot to hide while things calm down or to use as an escape through a city.
water drainage systems flood once in awhile correct? if it's still operating how will you know when it does? (those were both questions, I have no idea how those places work)
Can you provide copies of such things to people that email you, I live in s Florida, and would love to find stuff like that
In January, millions of Americans are reportedly going to be evicted from their homes. Where will they go? Where can they go? Thanks for the video!
is the pandemic over in January? please do tell us, when will they take us off lock down?
It already started in Los Angeles. Prepare the hordes of hungry and homeless will come to your neighborhood and sack it just like they have mine.
TO : JENNIFER SMALL.
WHO ARE YOU ?
AND WHERE ARE YOU ?
ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE TRIBE ?
BE WELL.
--BJNG.
In the dead of winter...It's not going to be easy..
TO : JENNIFER SMALL ;
WHO ARE YOU ?
AND WHERE ARE YOU ?
ARE YOU ONE OF
THE TRIBE ?
BE WELL.
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Thank you for this article. I did not fully realize the complications of being outside of the safety of one's home. In a tent, or on the road, wherever you are, there will be danger. I will have to plan more and better.
Forrest's and mountains. The perfect get away. Easy for those of us that know how to live in the wild.
@shawn gibson oh....I think I can figure it out. After all, I'm a Texan.
@@mattisenberger4042 You'll be a dead Texan
Get in shape for shtf no matter what and never talk to anyone about your plan or stock not anyone family or friends 🤔👍✌
This is ace, really good advice and some good things to think about. I'm off grid and bugging out further off grid this year with the crazy state of the world. And makes me so happy the amount of views this has gotten! It makes me happy to know that such lot of people are going to have a better chance is SHTF 🖤
I'm so glad this popped up in the feed. Thank you. It's one of the things I've struggled with.
IF you think you can just go live off the land......try camping in your own back yard for 2 weeks, and see how that goes...
I would be better off camping in the woods...stuff to eat there..
Well, at least in the woods you can forage if you know what and how (though I think less than 1% of people know how to cook acorns for example)
@@ludoviclagouardette7020 I won’t be worrying about them....I know, sad but survival will be
@@danawayne1954 To be fair, foraging is not a simple skill to train, even less so for a city dweller
@@ludoviclagouardette7020 grew up in the woods so it is kind of instinct
Great video idea I’ve been thinking about this for a long time.
I'm a trapper & forager, so the woods would be my pick with a personal water filter. The only thing that would be bad, is the mosquitos.
However, if you watched the fall of Venezuela, they ate everything, from farm animals down to song birds, snakes and large bugs. So the only thing that may be sustainable are the plants and weeds. But if everyone is eating them, the land could be a desert before long.
My trapping ability is great by most standards. If I set out 5 traps, I will have 10 to 25 pounds of meat the next morning. But for how long when everyone else hits the woods?
I guess you have to start with what you know, and be flexible with any changes that may occur. A single plan will not work for the long term, but food, water and tools for self-defense and food procurement are essential. You can build shelters from materials found in the area. I like a jungle hammock... off the ground away from snakes, weather & bug proof, and they're lite to carry.
But I will shelter in place until it gets dangerous.
Have fun!
Hi, something I learned in the SF is that preparation is the basis of survival. Obtaining food by trapping is preferable to hunting, predetermined berried plastic drums with food placed in heavy bush areas can make the difference between running and hiding. I know of blokes learning from trappers means of survival that you cant learn from books etc. The best advice you have given (besides being prepared) is to take off for a week or longer to experience living rough and keeping away from people for any length of time without drawing attention to yourself. Look at some military exercises of “Escape & Evasion” for ideas. Cheers mate, keep the ideas coming. Harera
Yeah, you’ll find out real quick how often your stomach needs to be filled up. And mushrooms and plants under the forest floor are not going to sustain you for very long.
I have a bugout location in the Texas high plains with large water tank, long-term food supply, and a small solar and wind and gas generator. It takes a 4 wheeler to get to it....🦾
I bet ive flown over. Lol
@@MountainGyspy where are you from?
No it doesn't, I easily got here in my sedan. Where's the toilet paper? I checked everywhere...
Great video, even in the best locations it is important to know what to do when you have to leave. Many preppers overlook this - great ideas in there, stay safe!
A bug out longer than 6 months and most folks are toast wont make it through a winter or without a garden wont make it ether etc. So its best stay home where others are or in a commune of sorts right? !000 things are against anyone bugging out and you had better be very good at it already Great vid thanks
I bought 0.83 acres of land in northern Maine in 2009 for $5,000 cash. It came with an outhouse, a couple dozen old apple trees, and nothing else. Built a two room shack and a shed.
In 2017, my disabled son and I moved into a van that I bought and built out so we could escape a dangerous ghetto that we got stranded in. After a year of not paying rent, we had saved enough money to buy a bigger, newer van that I built out and we traveled around the country for two years.
The van is nearly self-contained and it is our bugout location. Wherever it goes, we're at home.
When the pandemic closed all the campgrounds, Planet Fitness locations, etc., we could no longer live in the van on public land so we stayed at the camp in Maine (I call it the Northern Command Post) for five months.
We're back in an apartment now but the van has had a lot of repairs, interior modifications, a second house battery, new tires, and a refrigerator. It's ready for full time habitation again and so are we. Hoping to be back on the road again in 2022.
Thank you for making this video. I've often had the same thought when people talk about bugging out. "Where to? I don't own a cabin."
I converted my minivan into a camper. I use it for leisure travel and it’s also my daily driver. If there is a somewhat regional disaster I plan to drive to a safer area and live out of my van. If I get word of impending disaster (the kind where bugging out is necessary) I can pack the essentials, install My hitch mounted cargo carrier, buy any last minute items (if I need to and it’s safe) and be driving toward safety in less than 2 hours assuming I’m not at work.
If everyone is "bugging out" i think i will just stay here on the outskirts of this town and wait things out..
then you can also deliver news and messages to 'travelers', being the first to know update both in the city and in the suburbs, potential legend story material but it must be very challenging.
Look up fortitude ranch on the internet Colorado.
The preferable option is to stay if it's possible. People are so consumed with this "bugout" idea that no one considers whether they should try to build a sustainable environment at home.
There's never an endgame to these videos. They talk about getting away, but then what? If your plan is to "survive" in the wilderness for the rest of your life and die alone it doesn't matter if you last three weeks, three years or three decades., you still lose.
I’m not venturing outside my comfort zone.
When shtf hits everywhere is a bug out location to someone somewhere else. Every area will be scoured for supplies to steal and people to rape. Bugout is a joke if everyone is bugging out. There will be no stone unturned and no path not taken when millions are starving.
Thank you, Kris!!
I watch your videos over & over again, as I pick up things I missed, and good ideas that make my brain's lightbulb come on. Lol.