The Filioque Controversy, Part 2

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • Part 2 of our study of the Filioque controversy from Church history. We move from the history to theology and philosophy. We discuss the work of Joshua Sijuwade and Mark Makin.
    Disclaimer: there was one minor correction needed in the lecture. I said humans are one substance. This is mistaken given substance dualism. But my original statement would be true if property dualism is true-some form of hylomorphism.
    #Trinity #Filioque #holyspirit
    Here is the lecture outline:
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Komentáře • 2

  • @paulcox7934
    @paulcox7934 Před 25 dny +1

    It seems very inconsistent, when talking about the Trinity, to not want to use the word derivative. Then to continue to proceed with the idea of The begetting of the Son by the Father as a communication of essence. In such a case The Son's essence is derived from the Father, as well as is the Spirits. Calvin thought this was inconsistent, as did Warfield.

    • @RandomTheology
      @RandomTheology  Před 25 dny +1

      @@paulcox7934 I think William GT Shedd is right to argue derivation presupposes division which the church fathers precluded. You are right about Calvin and Warfield. See my video response to Mike Riccardi. The Franciscan tradition following Boniventure and Scotus articulated this as an emanation relation.
      If you watch my lectures I follow Scotus on divine simplicity not Aquinas. Most would say I deny divine simplicity which is fine. But to your point. I prefer to understand the relations of origin in terms of essential dependence following Mark Makin not a causal relation. I also follow Calvin and affirm the personal identity not the divine essence is the scope of the relations of origin. This is precisely how divine aseity may be preserved.