No! This is worse! - Nreal Air AR Glasses
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Riley tried out the Nreal Light AR glasses last year and was impressed by their simple looks and diverse feature set, so when we got the new Nreal Air glasses, he was excited to see how the tech has improved. Is Nreal changing the AR game by making fashion-first smart glasses, or should they focus more on the tech?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Riley's stealing his own jokes
0:38 Unboxing/What are these for?
1:53 Trying them on for the first time
2:46 What else is in the box?
4:28 Buttons and design
5:26 Sponsor - NIU
6:03 Attempting to use the glasses
7:16 Quirky design features
7:59 Worse than the Nreal Light?
9:20 Successfully using the glasses
12:23 Crab Rave speaker test
13:12 SteamVR supposedly works?
14:28 Overall thoughts
16:50 Outro - Věda a technologie
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Extremely disappointed that you didn't mention simply using them as a monitor and only mentioned the AR stuff.
He doesn't actually seem that interested in the tech
@@realshnx Then why review it!?
@SergioRatio good question. He said in either this video or the nreal light video that he wished he didn't have to. It's just disappointing that he wasn't even really willing to give them a complete test. I've since decided to ignore this review and get them anyway. The AR features are lacking for sure, and I wish it supported more apps like netflix (for pinning and stuff), but as a monitor, they are just next level. Had them for a few days and really enjoying them so far
@@realshnx yea especially with a steam deck and since I use iOS I only plan to use them as a monitor
@@realshnx oh really? Would you explain how the monitor stuff works? That's actually the only thing I would want them for lol
As AR glasses? Solidly early tech. As a portable monitor? Excellent
Using it as the external display for the steam deck is amazing.
For your phone? Is your phone not portable?
@@alexbuckenham1663 The virtual screen fills a much larger field of your view hence it looks much bigger than your phone screen...
Ya, it is a great portable OLED monitor. I use it when I go to my Dads because his TV and audio system isn't that great. Using my Nreal Air and my headphones is a great experience.
as ar glasses ...the other headset is a real ar headset
I have a pair of these and absolutely love them! I fly for businesses almost weekly and being able to watch content on these is amazing. No neck cramps, no concerns about graphic shows or movies when kids are sitting next to you, and they’re compact / discreet. I use IPhone and don’t even have the ability to use the nebula software or head tracking. To use these with iPhone you must purchase the adapter which has an internal battery, this battery lasts me 5-6hrs on average while on the lowest brightness setting. I always use the lens shade which makes the lowest brightness very adequate. I was expecting for these to make me a bit nauseous after wearing them for a while but this also hasn’t been an issue in the slightest.
@@mezzbLooking at any screen for too long in a moving vehicle can induce nausea. VR is just more extreme
Actually the disparity between the image being locked in place in front of your eyes without much external visual reference and the body experiencing motion can cause serious nausea for some people
This is a 10/10 review. Which is saying a lot because this video is a solid 2/10.
Some Indian kid filming with their Samsung A51 unboxing the thing would be a better review than this video.
Would you say that on your iPhone you could safely leave these turned on while you were driving to be able to keep track of incoming calls or messages without having to take your eyes off the road?
But can you use these on a Windows desktop PC running Windows 11?
I think that this product is mostly meant as a virtual monito for content consumption (think watching movies while on a plane etcetera) and possibly down the line having a HUD for notifications, directions and whatever else while walking around... I think it's not meant for VR experiences, hence the low FOV isn't as much as a problem.
This is what VR needs to be as far as form factor. Although for immersion it should project directly onto the surface of the retina instead of onto a surface in front of the eye.
Yes! We'll never see the full potential of AR/VR until we get the tech into a form factor that people feel comfortable adopting. In this case, cutting down the hardware features to turn it into more of a periferal rather than its own system is definitely the way to go, especially since we can't fit pc hardware into the size of sunglasses (yet). This is why Riley is starting to annoy me as a reviewer; he seems to just not understand any of this lol
@@itsreallydna Not to mention that, by making it a peripheral (and having a separate device acting as the "brain"), they significantly expanded the lifespan of the product because you can improve the performance by simply connecting it to more powerful devices, you also do not have to worry about the battery eventually going bad... The fact that it's cabled is actually one of my favourite features of this product.
@@HAL_NOVEMILA Your argument is pointless when any phone, tablet, or laptop that you connect these glasses to will eventually have degraded batteries anyways.
Something will get replaced no matter what eventually just so you can keep enjoying the glasses.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M that’s the point they’re making, not sure what you’re going on about
I kinda wish you guys would have tried with the steam deck which most people indicate that its a great external monitor for it.
Yeah I don’t get the point of them even making this video
They wanted to shit talk Chinese tech, that's all.
Using them on a plane is amazing. The Mac app is still janky, but having essentially 3 monitors on a plane, to work, or just a big "screen" to watch movies was just incredible. I think these are great if you don't expect too much of them.
Sometimes I'll just lie back in bed and watch youtube with them. It's just way more comfortable than using a phone or watching TV. IDK it's the simple little things that makes me glad I bought these. I couldn't care less about not having 6 degrees of freedom, I prefer just having simple little screens attached to my face.
I personally didn't like how close the display felt to my eyes. It didn't feel nearly as relaxing as viewing a monitor or TV at a distance. The colour and gamma calibration were also pretty awful.
This thing is amazing for the Steam Deck. Just be sure to switch to desktop mode and change the display setting for the Nreal to mirror and match the Steam Deck resolution. You'll also need to adjust the sound settings. Turn down the Steam Deck sound in the settings. If you don't do this the sound will annoyingly switch back and forth between the Nreal speakers and your Steam Deck. Took me days to figure this out. After adjusting the settings in desktop mode, if you switch to Game Mode you'll see your Steam Deck screen displayed on your Nreal glasses correctly
For the audio part, I didn't have any of those problems, strangely enough. My glasses pretty much just worked. It's been a dream and I'm kinda sad whenever I use the deck's screen these days.
There is a beta firmware update that fixes the Airs in Game mode. No need for desktop mode anymore. 60 fps in Game mode is king.
How does the Air, if you want to go 40 FPS with you game?
@@Deinorius In the SteamDeck subreddit there's a good write up by ChaosSlave51 for getting the glasses and deck up to 60fps for most every game.
Yeah I'm surprised they didn't use it for gaming. That's one of the best uses for this item
As a German I have to say you pronounced "augmented" perfectly!
Thought the same :'D
@@DerPizza87 I work with VR/AR and whenever I pronounce it american people don't know what I am talking about.
tbh the "reality" was what got me
@@d-o.o-b ikr
Ja das ist war!
Since the glasses are so small and don’t shut out everything around you, it looks like they focused on a large screen replacement. A giant personal screen that fits in your pocket isn’t too bad for under 400, but for VR and somewhat AR would think it needs to be larger.
I have a full high end vr setup and glasses this small cant do vr even closely because of the size... thats why I am so hyped for these glasses... I dont understand why these glasses get so much backlash because it doesn't do vr or ar well... its a common fact in the vr world that size is an issue to work with and these glasses are pretty much the only glasses on the market right now that give you a cinema experience while still being very comfortable... vr isnt made for cinema its waaay to bulky.... I mean it can be done ofcourse but its just not worth the hassle... unless its the only thing you got...
@@cmdrasumoto9658 yup, i consume a lot of media and the fact i can have a giant screen when i doing boring chores, it’s going to come in handy,
+ i was thinking of getting a 65 in oled tv for 1,300 but with this i will save my self about 900 bucks and just get a cheap 65 inch tv sense i would use it to watch movies with my girlfriend but other then that, i am exited to get to 75 inch Oled portable screen
@@cmdrasumoto9658the cheap 65 inch tv would be great because she can’t tell from led tv to a oled tv XD and i would use it once a month too 😂😂😂
I wish you guys explored the viability of using these glasses as a 2nd display (or even the primary) for a laptop.
yeah, make linus use this for a month as a daily driver
I use them for exactly that, it was cool having essentially multiple displays while on the plane. Although when I would turn my head to look at the "monitor" to my right I think it creeped out the person sitting next to me haha
@@CAPgroupONE you are using a mac m1, right?
I don't think multi screen is supported for anything other that the m1 right now
I currently use them as a primary display on a GPD win max and they also work well with the steam deck, they work well for watching movies, youtube, and playing games. As far as ar/vr goes they arent great but as was discussed they work technically. one thing to note on most devices they will improve battery life if you use them as a primary display and turn off the built in display.
@@SakuraShuuichi how about for productivity? Say you wanted another coding window, or even a Photoshop window on the go.
Personally I think the reason these were released is the $379 price tag. It's a lot more reasonable to a mainstream user and it's marketed to be used as a monitor type experience for things like the Nintendo switch, steam deck, and MacBook. It's the easy sell mainstream appeal cheaper product that will fund the work into more feature rich products in the future. For me these have the exact features I need for the most part and are easier to justify than dropping six whole Benjamins on the lights which have the additional downside of looking goofy.
Exactly. This genius apparently doesn’t understand the concept of market segments.
@@nukesean You haven't watched the whole vid. He said he understood they were going for a mainstream appeal
@DrugsMakah_07 he also completely contradicted that by his ending and the thumbnail. If you watch ltt you'd know riley shouldn't be the one tasked to review cutting edge stuff, guy can barely work a modem
the nreals cost almost 800 in germany T-T
This thing is trash even at this price
I honestly could not care less for the AR app. All I want these things for is for gaming and Plex. I can do both of these things perfectly by connecting them to my tablet and launching Dex. I already stream games through Moonlight anyway, and these glasses will complement that setup perfectly.
Edit: I got them and they are absolutely amazing for use as a monitor. Gaming on my 65" TV in the living room feels tiny in comparison.
I have had a pair of these since they launched in the UK through EE and I use them pretty much every day as a virtual monitor for Samsung DeX and watching videos from CZcams, Plex etc. Also one of the Massive things for me is the software XRAI Glass which allows you to have subtitles for the real world (I'm hearing impaired) and this allows me to have subtitles for conversations and everyday experiences so it is not only useful for content but accessibility.
Pretty interesting use case, do you have a Pixel phone? They supposedly have the absolute best live audio to text transcripción using AI.
@@user-jg9pn9wh3g No I have the S21 Ultra. I have tried a lot of transcription apps and they tend to be bad. I've been part of the Beta testing for XRAI before the public launch recently as it was exactly what I have been wanting and I already had the Nreal Glasses.
It's a great experience especially if you link a Bluetooth conference mic to your phone as it picks up everyone and there is no verbal ping-pong match as I try to follow where a conversation is (a hard task when you're partially deaf and lots of people are talking)
Time for a re-review @ShortCircuit -- you're missing out
@@mattie3875 Definitely I don't think he gave it a fair try at all. Honestly it felt like he'd decided not to like them and just went from their which if so is a shame. I absolutely love mine and have even let my Grandmother have a go with things like XRAI and the Video playback (she couldn't deal with the standard AR though lol needs more time for that)
@@TJWhiteStar that's awesome mate, it's beautiful to see that even at a early stage this tech is already helping people improve their lives. Hope it keeps evolving and helping more people like you.
I wish you commented more on how it performs as a portable monitor for on a plane and stuff. As an oi and gas FIFO worker a good portable screen for when I'm out in the field or travelling to and from would be the primary use case for this. AR capabilities are more of a fun addition/gimmick to me
Agree. I wish they would comment more on the actual technical part of the product, since this is obviously not yet intended for mass AR consumerism. The video felt really obnoxious to me, and I was pretty surprised to see that these guys are part of the Linus Tech group.
@Ulen Grau the spearhead of this vid is named riley, and he knows very little about technology in general. They would have had a much more educated reviewer in anthony or luke
Yeah, why the hell was this VR focused... They're obviously not for VR.
They work great as a monitor (the reason I bought them)
The only downside is the picture is not locked in place and instead moves with you (unlike when it’s in ar mode on supported device)
I really wish we could simply have the image stay in 1 spot like with ar mode and look away from it if we wanted to as currently things like using them on a treadmill just doesn’t work well at all
Totally agree. Enough with the yuk-yuk and more with the actual review. But I think today's generation loves this Pootie Pie type of video, dude's got 2.1 mil subscribers. lol
You guys left out the entire half of the product that is amazing... Having a 130" OLED display that fits in your pocket. I totally agree that the AR app and features suck, that will get there. But these also work as a simple USB C display! I use them any time I travel for watching my own personal movie theater on the plane, I use them with my Steam Deck and Laptop when laying in bed to get a huge, bright screen. I use them with my Samsung phone + Dex to watch Netflix as I go for walks at night. This is such a cool product and it wasn't done justice :(
This!
How can you walk?
I thought you couldn't see anything, because there were no cameras on front of glasses?
Thinking about getting one for my iMac.
Thanks!
@@billitownmachine They're... They're glasses... You can see through them. 😂
You just can't record video footage that includes what you see through the glasses.
@@Dewkeeper
'Preciate it!
There's so much hype, that it's difficult to figure out.
Thanks for cutting through the noise.
Gracias!
@@billitownmachine yeah and it's often hard to parse the jargon too.
As a rule of thumb, AR or augmented reality stuff overlays on top of your natural field of view, usually with a translucent screen, while VR replaces your field of view (though if it has cameras it can pass that image feed onto the screen to let you sorta see) 👍
How in the world is this demo not with the Steam Deck? These glasses are incredible with the deck! Ignore the AR stuff
They are also incredible with samsung dex. I don't bother with the AR stuff.
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Absolutely love mine, have had them for a couple of months now. The app definitely needs work, but if you're using it on a Samsung Phone with Samsung Dex they are just amazing.
Damn didn't know you were an LTT fan lol love your stuff man
Was literally just thinking this could be good to use with Dex for a mobile desktop environment! Glad to hear that's something you can do with them!
I almost never use them with my phone, but my steam deck! It's a great way to lay down and play or play more comfortably on flights etc etc
May i ask: How is the youtube watching expirience? I would love to have them for travelling and watching content
@@Julian-zd9kx Awesome. I wear them a lot when I'm cleaning or working on stuff, easy to see through them and yet still keep the video there when something is happening you actually want to see. The AR experience is garbage right now, they're best if you think of them as a super high quality transparent display on your face.
I'm not an nreal fanboy, with the airs being my first purchase from nreal, and specifically for compatibility with the steam deck. With that said, I love my Airs - the displays look fantastic, the recent steam deck compatibility patch gives 60FPS at 1080p, and they're not so expensive that they break the bank. I don't even have a compatible phone for their app, but using them with Samsung DeX to watch reruns of Columbo has been a treat while raking leaves outside. I didn't watch the video on the nReal lights, but Riley came down really hard on these, and I'm not entirely sure why. At $120 cheaper than the lights, what would lead you to believe their interals/abilities would be comperable? And having heard of all the tech that was removed, have you really lost *that* much? I don't have need for external cameras or extra movement tracking. I wanted a personal, mobile screen I could plug into my Deck and Phone, and I got it for a reasonable price.
I completely agree...felt a bit odd of him to sit and mock a product based on its weaknesses without any acknowledgment of the things that work REALLY well (like DEX and the steam deck)
yeah I love lmg and all but this was honestly a really weird take. I bought mine for use with the steam deck and soon my phone once I upgrade but I'm so surprised he was so negative and didn't do any of the things it could be used for like live subtitles and general media consumption
Missed opportunity these are supposedly amazing for the Steamdeck
I'd get these for my Deck if they didn't look so goofy and 80s.
I've had mine for almost 2 months now. The AR app is cool, but definitely has plenty of kinks to work out. I use mine almost exclusively with my steamdeck though. I'd guess about 95% of the time I'm using my steamdeck, I use it with these glasses.
But do you play 95% AR/VR games then ?
@@Xfade81 These glasses are just a great portable monitor when you're not using the gimmicky AR features. The Steam Deck has a terrible built in display, and it's much smaller than the "monitor" you feel like you're looking at in these glasses.
May i ask you, how is the youtube watching expirience? I'd love to have them for travelling and watching stuff
Can you easily read text with those? Like video with subs?
@@todorkatsarski7487 yes, I have no trouble reading text or reading captions on these.
They are actually quite good, once past initial setup! Using them with a Mac can act as 3 monitors and the resolution/refresh rate is good enough for heavy text-based work. It is also great to mirror phone screen to watch CZcams or other content while moving around, working out, laying in bed, or on a plane without having to tilt your neck to view a screen.
I have a pair of these and I love them I watch a lot of anime on them with my AirPod pros I feel like I’m in a movie theater, I have connected them to my steam deck and Nintendo switch and the experience has been great I’ve put many hours into these glasses
@ShortCircuit can you please try it with the Steam Deck and show us how it looks inside 🙏
3:21 His evil villain impression is perfect XD
Got this and they are working great as a second monitor for my mobile setup. They have released beta drivers for MacOS for head tracking, but it doesn't work so well as it is very jittery from my experience. Very happy to use this as a vibrant and discrete second monitor.
Playing steam deck or watching movies on planes is where these shine. I absolutely love it.
I would love to see a full review about those. I'm actually surprisingly interested in those glasses :D
They're amazing, this is a horrible review with inaccurate expectations due to him wearing glasses on underneath, completely night and day difference.
Hands down best purchase I've made this year.
@@noahbolesta2587 I have to agree. I was skeptical but they are shockingly good as a replacement USB-C screen.
@@noahbolesta2587 totally. He focused on the AR gimmicks, but i don't care about that at all. A full "monitor review"" would be super awesome tho :D
@@mezzb yeah of course, but i still would love to see an ltt style review
Yep, Linus should have a go at it with a Stramdeck, a M1 macbook laptop, a samsung phone, and an iphone just to bash Apple for not having put a USB-C on their latest iPhone.
I've heard they're pretty nice for the Steamdeck
Wish you would have tried it with a steam deck, which is the reason I had considered getting these for.. I have seen a few reviews that praise these for use with the steam deck, they help since they have better resolution than the steam deck screen and so you don't have to struggle to keep the steam deck at the correct viewing angle or bending you neck sitting or in bed playing.
Riley needs to keep his stylist/barber forever. His hair is always a slam dunk
Thanks a lot for the interesting story. Tell me, what do you think is better Rokit Max or NReal Air or XReal Light?
"No! This is worse!"? How? It's more normal looking and cheaper. Nreal recognized that the primary market for these glasses is as a portable theater at this point, not AR. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't consider the use case of "sitting on a plane and wanting to enjoy movies or video games on a bigger screen". That's really what these are best for.
The 3DOF is enough to also be able to use these for portable productivity, having multiple virtual monitors attached to a MacBook. As you noted, the resolution in the FoV is excellent, which can't be said for various VR headsets that people try to use for productivity with virtual monitors.
Honestly, I think the editors of ShortCircuit should pull this video and re-shoot it. They are grossly misrepresenting what this product is used for right now. This video does not live up to LTT quality standards.
Yep "RushedCircuit" on this episode
I can’t tell you how much I love my pair, I use my iPad Pro and do some gaming with an Xbox controller. Or I only need a mouse and keyboard when I’m at a coffee shop that means one less item on a small coffee table.
Bought one and it wouldn't work on phone or Steamdeck, so obviously an issue with the pair I had. Returned it as a defective product, but they only gave me only a portion back due to a "restocking fee"....
Watching this on mine right now.
For CZcams videos the fov isn't really an issue. Big bummer is that the browser in the app can't run streaming services other than CZcams for some reason.
Y'all should try the Tilt 5. Very similar form factor but the board gives a massive field of view.
For real though - you could've tried them with a Steam Deck.
These things are amazing. I use them on my steam deck while flying on the airplane and working while flying. I always tried working on my laptop and it was impossible. With these i keep my laptop under the seat in front of me with a blue tooth keyboard on the folding tray area. No neck pain and plenty of room to type.... its life changing if you fly alot.
I wonder about the "big screen" VR experience or even something like HelixVision through this device, or even what a 3D movie might look like through these (assuming it's possible). I know that's super niche, but as one who bought and loved nVidia's active shutter 3D, this could be suitable to replace that (if the screen "looks" big enough). (then again, any other VR headset could achieve the same thing?)
Love my pair. I didn't get them for AR but for a great wearable monitor experience. The screen is great in quality and size, and it has great support for prescription lenses
Hey @xsomenoobx, can you use it for ms word, excel like stuff in pc? And oh how about browsing things in pc as well?
I understand that batteries are a limiting factor for miniaturization of a lot of tech, but what I don't understand about AR glasses (not just NReal, but every brand) is why they don't seem interested in utilizing your neck like semi-wireless earbuds do, with a battery that sits around your neck. That would provide a ton of space for battery capacity, and I think most people would be totally accepting of it.
Totally catches your glasses too just in-case they fall off.
Just imagine the batteries exploding or going on fire 🔥 💣🔥🤣.
@@ZioComposite Other devices like the aforementioned earbuds and neck fans already put batteries on your neck. Batteries rarely combust without obvious warnings beforehand. The inherent danger is rather low.
For me, I'm really tempted to get these if they ever show up at like BestBuy or something. For me I love to go to the pool and relax but I get bored just sitting there laying in the sun. So having glasses for a screen to watch shows on would be fantastic! No more awkwardly holding my phone while I lay down!
You can buy them on Amazon.
Best Buy isn't always the answer.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M with their protection plans that act as 2 year return policies. Yes it is.
Thank you for the review, but honestly I was pretty disappointed you didn't show in more detail some of the productivity options that you mentioned. For example it would be amazing to see how DeX looks on them, can you use them to work from a cafe with a BT keyboard and mouse instead of a laptop? This would be an amazing portable set-up to substitute a laptop. But I would have appreciated if you tested it and told us some impressions. Like how easy or hard is it on the eyes to work with them for 3-4 hours? How easy is to read text? What if you connect via TeamViewer from DeX to your PC and work like that? What is the resolution? Also it would have been amazing to try to connected to a windows PC, for the same reason, and convert your small laptop into a big screen and work like that? There are so many amazing potential game-changer uses for these glasses, but in your video you just showed 5 times the same very limited view of just some interface. I would have appreciated a lot more in depth and in detail review of such an amazing product. But in any case, thank you for bringing them to my attention. :)
I own a pair and for me the ideal use case is watching CZcams/Netflix or playing on my Steam Deck on a big personal virtual projector
I could care less about the AR app or extra features the Nreal Light has that bump up the price
I mean that is what I would see as a benefit for them, how does the display compare to something like an oled screen on a tablet or ported games?
@@therevanchist1123 They use micro OLED displays, and in a dim room or with the blackout shades are pretty awesome
Another benefit you might not have considered is that you can recline on the sofa or lay down in bed and comfortably watch from any position without the eye and arm strain of holding and looking at a phone or tablet screen
100% agree, exactly how i use them, i knew AR was going to suck on them.
Maybe Riley is exactly the same guy as my friend. My friend saw my VIVE VR for the first time 5 years ago, and he couldn't tell the difference of a 40K $ gaming VR setup (PC and all) or his 40 dollar Samsung Gear VR add on for his phone. It didn't give him any different immersion. But for the others (me included) it was night and day difference in smoothness, usability, realism etc.
I have a pair of these for my steam deck. It is expensive for how I use them, But i absolutely love using them and not having to hold my steam deck it to my face while in bed or sitting waiting somewhere. Them fitting in a rather normal sized glasses case is also a huge plus for me.
Are either good to replace monitors for reading / typing.
Word docs/coding on multiple AR screens? Wondering if the resolution is good enough.
In the future, you can try to superimpose that screen recording on something from the host's POV; even if it's not real-time, it should be close enough to give us the feel of what it looks like compared to the real thing.
Pretty much everyone that has purchased these glasses absolutely luv them for what they are intended for.
I wonder when this channel is going to do a real review of the intended use.
Maybe give them to Linus and ask him to do a review.
I've been in the market for something like this, and the $599 for the light was way to expensive. This is definitely more in my price range. It also fits my needs better. I want to be able to move in 3d space without a worry of the screens moving away from me. I like the monitor-like function of these glasses.
Just bought these. As a portable video screen they are great as long as I have my contacts in. Figured I'd be ok as it sits right on your face, but somehow these make a screen as blurry as if it was further away. I have found next to no usefulness from the AR mode. It looks nice, but none of the apps are ones I use much, and I dont see how to change them. I use the casting mode which is better to me. Not sure how great they will be for productivity as on stationary screens there is a lot of ghosting, especially around the edges where your icons are. I have currently only connected to my phone so haven't tried them on my steam deck for gaming, but I will say if you are watching videos they look amazing. Not so much as AR glasses as the picture for video is so bright I can't really see through it. If not for the ghosting making it difficult to read smaller print, these would be a truly solid portable monitor giving you a good bit of real estate to work with. I'd say currently these are just for shows and movies as they excel at that. Also I have to assume that the steam deck will be similar to my phone, as the screen on the phone is the controller and keyboard it drains my battery much faster using these glasses. I got approximately two hours on my fold 3 to go from 100% to 45%. That was intermittent use but did include the updating process. I think that to really use these you end up needing a lot more than just the $380 glasses, you will probably need a pass through powered Thunderbolt dock (+-$120) so you can charge your device while using which is expensive and my brother was out of luck trying on his iPhone, that is a $60 connector plus a cable to buy (on amazon). Saw others write it, pretty good early tech but they only really do watching videos really well. Everything else is ok to bad. Very good for watching you tube though I'm not sure its worth the spend considering the extras you will need to really maximize their usefullness. If they could fix the ghosting on stationary screens these would be something I could highly recommend for mobile office or videos.
I would have liked to see more info about using the glasses as a portable monitor or even using them with samsung dex and a bluetooth keyboard to replicate a full desktop experience.
Bitwit and ETA Prime....
They work very well for DeX for me-- quite handy.
I remember the north focals which were some of the best ar glasses but then google did as google does best and bought them and axed production
I like the design of this. I think having it wired is even an advantage in this case, because it is lighter and you can route the cable like the good ol days when we routed the headphone jack through our hoodies
Works great with Samsung DEX - I stream Game Pass, Xbox console, PS5 and PC to a giant screen. Waiting for multi-monitor AR support, sounds like that is an M1 Mac-only feature right now
How do you stream to a giant screen
I was waiting on your video of the Nreal Air before purchasing them, but I decided to go ahead and buy them. I absolutely love them, they are great for content consumption and there is an app you can use to watch 3d movies on them.
Good thing you didn't wait for him. Dudes a clown
My German Augen 👀🇩🇪 approve the augmented reality 😁
Please look into the Viture one xr, i wonder how those glasses hold up :)
Thank you for the insightful video!
I recently purchased AR glasses (XREAL Air AR Smart Glasses, Formerly Nreal with Massive 201") for my research, and I'm looking for a compatible Android tablet to enhance the experience. Since I use an iPhone 12 and can't use the Nebula app, I'm planning to buy an Android tablet specifically for that purpose.
Any recommendations for the best-fit Android tablet to pair with AR glasses?
Riley you make my day better by being you thank you 💜
As someone that owns many AR headset devices and is a AR/VR developer it seems like you need to do more research before reviewing them. Love your guys work and watch you regularly. But whenever AR products come up you always miss the mark in your reviews. Mostly because you don't seem follow the hardware closely enough. If you did you would probably realize that after a period of time your brain fills in the FOV shortcomings. Eventually you don't notice the FoV issues. Also the Nreal Lights make a great display for PC or Steamdeck. I can load up Rimworld and the view I get is 2x larger than my 60 inch TV. My point is there are some cool use cases in and out of AR for these devices and the Nreal's aren't that bad looking - you should spend more time in them.
I would like them to go more in-depth, but this is Short Circuit. It's just a first impressions channel and they want the host's natural reactions
I wonder if it depends on the device you are using? I would love to see this with an iPhone-switch-steam deck- etc to see the difference
How does this work on the iphone? Also is it a better pair? Im looking for the best smart glasses
Nreal has many issues that have nothing to do with the actual hardware, but from a company approach. There are no developer tools outside of a Unreal plugin that is hacky as best. There's no SDK to do anything with the device outside of android. You cannot get a Developer Kit for the device unless it has officially lunched on that particular country. OpenXR support has been promised since the first device and they have remained silent. There's an ample community of developers waiting for tooling, a quick search on google will lead you to their official community forum, where the most popular post is regarding lack of support for developers.
Very weird behavior from a company whose product heavily depends on developer adoption don't you think?. Feels like a cash grab to be honest.
I actually already have a pair of these. I needed the prescription lenses to see the screen in the glasses, let alone through the glasses. My primary use case is to use these on airplanes for movie watching, using Samsung dex. I use WF1000xm3 for audio.
This product is 90% there, all it really needs is to support motion tracking on PC and more phones.
What i wish is that there were a larger version with a mirror that goes all the way down to the bottom of the sunglasses.
Ultimately what i'd like is a driving mode that places directions and if aplicable car metrics like speed coolant temp MPG ect, at the very bottom of your vision.
My main gripe with this device is that it does everything over a single USB-C port, what would be nice is if you could pass through power, or if they sold an in-line adapter that supplies the proper voltage for the glasses, and negotiates power for the connected device
Power through the cable?
How do you think the glasses turn on?
@@TheRanguna There is no way to supply power to a connected device, at the native 1080p resolution of the glasses, the steamdeck can run out of juice in as little as 50 minutes
@@denvera1g1 ah so you're saying have more that a single usb c, one to pass the display and power to the glasses and another to pass power to the connected device and/or glasses. Yeah makes sense, although I'm not sure how easy that is without a thunderbolt/USB4 dock.
@@TheRanguna Yes, sorry, i tried to leave a shorter comment than normal but left some important stuff out
would love to hear your thoughts on the VITURE One XR
When I get these, it's only gonna really be for reading and watching movies/shows
Videos like this are why I only trust user reviews and not “big name” CZcamsrs. Not enough research on a device.
The AR function of these things is pretty half baked but they do function well as a portable monitor. That means you can use them with Samsung Dex and get a better experience, something the Nreal Lights can't do. It seems the stripped down nature and focusing on being just a monitor makes them compatible with a lot more devices which gives them a wider use case.
Please review the TCL's latest NxtWear offering. Same principle as the Nreal, but I'm sure many are eager to know if its better. Thank you.
I do enjoy that these glasses will have plenty of firmware updates in the future, the current one unlocks 60fps from 30 and they're working on implementing 3D video capability to a future update.
It's certainly not for everyone but when I go camping next year this will be a great compact device to bring with me
Isn’t the point of camping to not have a screen in your face?
@@reke9592 it'd be nice to use laying in the tent, watch a show before you sleep. Lightweight entertainment
@@MattLockw00dactually that does sound nice
@@mezzb yep, totally with you
3D video? 3D movie finally can watch personally?
Why is Rileys German pronunciation so good? "Augmented" almost sounded like a native speaker
Except for the fact that the German word would be "Augmentiert", and in context it would be "Augmentierte Realität"
@@The-Urban-Goose Ach ne
These AR glasses are pretty amazing. They will be the beginning of a societal shift we haven't experienced since the blossoming of the internet in the 90's. Let people hate and refuse to use them, they are allowed to be completely and absolutely wrong. These will quickly become wireless, will quickly support all major platforms, and AR/MX will quickly become the defacto platform most of the world uses for internet while out in the really real world. These will bring to life all that you've heard about the "Metaverse" and will usher in all that entails. Relax...be patient...we live in amazing times.
Just tell me the screen size what does fov impact on the screen size.
i wish i saw this earlier... i was thinking about buying it for a month or something, after seeing many youtubers nearly dying for it i went for those glasses.
I mean i like the glasses, but also slightly dissapointed
My Opinion:
-The Screen is not as big as people describe it, especially in AR Space you realise on the sides how small the "canvas" really is
-It looks like youre looking trough a tunnel into a slightly bigger screen than holding your phone near your face. The upper part of the glass is always in my vision, i feel like i need to duck to look under the upper part to see the screen behind, different nose clips and the adjustment of the glasses didnt really help
-The Screen is clear and bright, but i see quite a shadowing
-The best use could be Samsung Dex, but in Dex Mode the screen follows your head instead of standing "somewhere" like in the APP Ar Space, which isnt confortable
And the biggest L tho:
their own app released like a year ago, yet it feels like they released it last week, its very cheap and and needs so much updates.
Of all the buttons in the app only the browser links work, all others do not react when clicking on it
I think the biggest problem is the software. If they implement more functions, it would be good enough
This video basically just entirely missed the intended use case lmao
The prescription lenses are actually incredibly important, because the field of view actually means that if your vision is bad the image will be very blurry, even though the screen is basically an inch from your eyes.
Hope you guys check out the Viture glasses too when it comes out on December
I get this isn't LTT, but really would have loved to at see some actual specs measured, like input-to-screen latency in different configurations and use cases.
If I use this on my Steamdeck or my laptop, am I going to want to rip them off due to 100ms latency? How about when using their proprietary adapter for gaming on a Switch or other console?
As a content creator that also occasionally games the lack of these specs anywhere makes these a hard pass for the time being.
You nailed it, they’re trying to make it more palatable for the average person to not look as conspicuous. It seems great as an entry point and as a great assistant for traveling
I use these when traveling for work at the airport and on the plane it works great! Love them!
Also plug them into my laptop and have multiple displays so if I don’t want the guy next to me seeing my emails I can put them on a virtual display
I actually got these over the light. I have a real vr headset so had no intention of ever using them for that purpose. The Air version is perfect for video on the go say on a plane, its slightly higher peak brightness makes them a little more usable in the sunny southern costa del sol where i live and I dont need 6 dof here. My main use case (once their software catches up) is to use them for working on the go projecting 3 monitors from my macbook so i can travel without carting additional screens around with me.
The resolution is perfectly usable for this purpose, just lacking real polished software atm, only sort of supporting M series macbooks (and mines an intel model) but its progressing and hopefully a proper release wont be far off.
Could be interesting if AR apps get made for it for things like video while walking or projected navigation using phones gps? but my use case as i mentioned is video and work when i need to travel.
I thought they had released the vurtual desk for macbook m1
@@alexdubois6585 its available as a beta for the M1 and M2 series MacBook's only from the Chinese site. reports say its jittery and not comfortable to use atm. Nreal say they will release for other MacBook's later but wont release for windows platform.
It can be used as an extended display on any device with usb display port alt mode, so video out over usb-c. It just works as a single always in front of your eyes floating monitor in this mode.
These are way too expensive for what they provide. I think if they were $100~200 and had much more phone compatibility, then I think these could be "neat" for people to use/mess around with and maybe find some good use cases.
But at $400~600, I just don't understand who they're aiming for with this? They're way too janky, subpar specs, and doesn't have a clear use case.
Edit: After thinking about it, I will say this is a great step in form factor, this is something I think people could *maybe* actually wear outside their homes. And maybe this could be a good "virtual monitor" type device, although I still think the price tag is too much for this product category.
I plan on using it with my macbook pro. It will provide 3 virtual screens, I can sit on the sofa with my wife watching TV while I work hard deadlines
This is an excellent companion for the steam Deck I also convert my fold 3 into a large mousepad and I watch Jellyfin videos streamed to my phone. It is also excellent to view movies. For PC workflow? I'll pass.
I own a pair. Had them for 3 weeks. Used them everyday since best piece of tech I've ever bought.
Also the picture captured on camera doesn't do it justice it's literally a great image in daylight,work and especially in the dark.
I only want to make one use of the second monitor for code. Is this correct or are Viture glasses better?
I have these and have been using them for the past few weeks as a dex monitor when I do field work but do not need windows programs, and as a second monitor in a top-bottom stack with my work laptop when I'm working in the field. I've also used it with splashtop in dex to use my pc at home on the road. Nreal should put a connector to allow PD passthrough for charging the host device, get rid of the AR crap cuz the FOV is indeed so tiny its like looking through the bottom of a crackerjack box (remember those?), drop it to $350 and call it a day. As it stands I had to buy a nubia redmagic charging cable to get PD passthrough.
The main selling point is a big, fairly comfortable monitor that you can use in a broom closet if you want and not be staring at a tiny tiny screen. If you are nearsighted you can probably achieve a similar effect by just holding your phone 2 inches from your eyes, though i wouldn't recommend it.
Rikly, forget the janky, Android-only, "AR/VR" experience of these, which I agree is meh, and just hook them up to your SteamDeck. Yeah, it's just a floating 2D display, but being these glasses don't actually look like shit, it's a GREAT SteamDeck accessories to play games on a "virtual" big screen (the display feels bigger in your view) on a plane or other trip.
Ive had both the Rokid and Xreal, hard pass, tech isnt there yet. Forget about AR, theyre just displays inside the glasses, its cool for about 12 minutes and thats it
wonder why they dont have mirrored lenses. also hope you do this "unboxing" with the tcl version
these look so close to the dream product ive been looking for for a few years now!
if you could see a screen while going about life chores, (dishes, laundry, exercise? etc) like imagine watching twitch, while doing the dishes... or idk, handy for twitch/yt mods at least.
and maybe for comfort, being able to move away from my pc setup when im tired and relocating to a bed so i can work while im ill or stuff like that...
those 2 usage cases alone are something im, interested in.
i guess alot of these products seem to rely on a smartphone as a tethered companion/processor thing, but i would love to be able to connect that to my pc wirelessly somehow, and as a not so techy orientated consumer, i feel like there would be a nice hole in the market for a product like that, assuming im not just the one crazy person who wants essentially google glass but better!
but i would also use a device like this on the go ngl...
a portable pocket sized screen that could offer cinema based experiences, again get some work/writing done on the go at a hotel or whatever and maybe even play the odd game...
imagine having a pair of AR styled glasses just sitting in the office desk drawer, in your pocket while in the 2 hr long waiting room at the doctors...
in the cafe while you write that novel, or maybe for those interested.. you could watch whatever action movie your into on the pooper...
in fact, you could literally watch the entirety of twilight in the toilet, just to show everyone how much you hate/love that movie.
or maybe you want to read a book instead of hearing an audiobook while getting some garage work done.
and on that note.. bring up a recipe while cooking/baking in the kitchen
learn how to fix that washing machine instead of having to pull your phone ouyt halfway thru and rewatch that part you forgot about...
or, maybe for electronics repair to have a handy HUD
catch up on important emails while in the jacuzzi
do a little work while at a friends' party! idk
or maybe just study for an exam while in the bathtub!
Just wait five more years. I hope
I only want to make one use of the second monitor for code. Is this correct or are Viture glasses better?
Bought this glasses month ago, with Samsung Dex, it's really unreal, next level experience.
Why does it feel like his completely biased and reviews it already knowing that he doesn't like it , there was no info box saying the in display recording does not reflect actual use , nor did they even have a camera look through the lens so that the viewer can see it's actually alot more responsive than he lets on. He went through half the effort of trying it for VR but I think alot of people are buying this with the intention of using it for the steam deck and it works great for that. It really felt like he was just shitting on it the entire review.
Riley, how well did the screens look without your prescription glasses. I also wear prescription glasses and I'm worried that the image that I'm seeing will be too blurry
If I have Myopia can I use this without my prescription glasses as the screen is just inches from my eyes? Are the prescription inserts just for Presbyopia?
Are you kidding? Complaining about missing cameras so you can’t see real world through TRANSPARENT SCREENS? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if no one ever thought NREAL was just a fun way for the company to make it sound like neural
more like unreal
I have a pair and adore them for use with a laptop as an extra screen, they're also amazing with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to turn your phone into an extraordinarily mobile laptop replacement for certain tasks. With the right kind of mini computer, I'm sure they would also go well with a battery pack and wireless mouse/keyboard to be an excellent traveling device for someone who always ends up wanting to tinker with every electronic they can get their hands on.
I would buy this as an alternative to a projector system and I would like to see it tested as such.