In terms of an all time draft head to head it’s not that bad cause yu focusing on skill set and they have the same skill set just kobe has a better three
? y’all jus sound like Low lmfaoo, do y’all not see everyone even chat coming at los head 24/7 for whatever he does he had good picks and everyone just hates for no reason
@@waltdawgbosshog1816that team is horrible. Scottie, west, bird and drose are the only ones on los team who could play into a system who could provide offense.
I find it ironic I went back at yall previous debates and Los shits on older players saying they aren't as good as this era, but then picks all old school players. Gotta love it lmao
No it’s a great pic because you have magic and LeBron running your fast break with Bill Russell rebounding and out letting to them You’re not taxing either one of them because both of them can ball handle that’s a great pick
Magic and Bron running a pick n roll? Magic and Bron on a fastbreak? Magic and Bron moving at the same time? Spacing isn’t as big as an issue when you can make plays like that, Magic isn’t Ben Simmons lmao
Plus magic shot over 30% from 3 in the 4 seasons before his aids including a season he made 100+ of them on 38%. That right there tells me Magic could of learned to shoot better way earlier on if he needed to.
I do think Wilt is a good pick. Wilt is like 7’1”, fast as hell, and has a good vert. He also is stronger than just about every player ever. He will be a great shot blocker, lob threat, and paint beast. Just pair him with a good PG like Nash and it’s a great pairing
there was only 8 teams in the 1960 nba season, 4 in the east as well in the west while we got 30 teams currently. Obviously we know why the average of 6'7 in todays era is way more impressive and means more than back then
You understand how averages work, right? If I have a 6' dude and a 7' dude on the same team, my team's average height would be the same as one with a 6'5" and 6'7" dude. The 60's didn't really have many Trae Young's or IT's but they also didn't have the Porzingis's or the Tacko Fall's
Facts that was a crazy statement I believe carmelo is a top 10 small forward and one of the greatest scorers, but yes kawhi of course is better but niggas was tripping especially clique who I thought would defend him considering he loves melo.
Let‘s be real. You can say Westbrook had a better all around career than Dame. But if you‘re building an all time team, you would never pick Russ over Dame. Especially since spacing matters so much
1: Clique 2: Bsolz 3: Rage (only if he moves LeBron to the point, start Klay , Tmac, Giannis and Dirk) Giannis and LeBron run Pick and Roll with shooters everywhere. 4: Low 5: Los
@@sirbradfordofhousejones I think in this instance it’s better to have him off the bench. That’s just my opinion though. Can’t really go wrong with magic starting either.
If we're doing all time.. can only go off accomplishments and impact on the game because play style evolves over time and you learn from past. Therefore Los had the best team
2k simulation over three seasons i also put who you guys put as your starters and I reset after 1 year so there would be no regressions these are the stats rage was the clear better regular season team but Los ended with the most championships 3rd Los overall record 220-26 89% 4th Los overall record vs others 17-22 43% 3rd Losses to cpu 4 1st Championships won 2 3rd Low overall record 220-26 89% 5th Low overall record vs others 16-23 41% 2nd Losses to cpu 3 5th Championships won 0 1st Rage overall record 228-18 93% 1st Rage overall record vs others 26-16 61% 1st Losses to cpu 2 2nd Championships won 1 4th Clique overall record 215-31 87% 2nd Clique overall record vs others 22-20 52% 5th Losses to cpu 11 5th Championships won 0 2nd Bsolz overall record 227-19 92% 3rd Bsolz overall record vs others 12-12 50% 4th Losses to cpu 7 5th Championships won 0
The fact that y’all was saying kawhi is a better scorer than melo is insane 💀 melo has a scoring title for a reason playing against and with AI, Kobe, Bron, Wade, Dirk etc like that’s wild
He is a better scorer though. The only reason people don’t see him as one is because he was in the spurs system most of his career. Ever since he left the spurs he’s averaged 26 points and shooting around 49% with 34mpg. Carmelo as the main scoring option in his prime averaged 25 on 45% shooting with 36mpg.
@@dre27321 but no scoring title and melo has had way more scoring explosions, higher points totaled in a game and higher points in total by like 11k or some like that. I will agree with you though that it could be caused by playing in the spurs system because kawhi in Toronto was a scoring beast
Clique or Bsolz had the best team hands down besides the dame pick I would replace him with nash for more playmaking thats the only thing that could be corrected tbh
They all made bad choices but lets not forget, Rage could have had Curry, Jordan, Bird, Giannis and Dirk. That team has everything. Ultimate slasher/scorer in Jordan along side the ultimate version of the splash bros, his big combo of Dirk and Giannis would work nicely so props for that although with Curry and Dirk I'd need some defenders off the bench.
@@billputney2533 Lebron is not “far more versatile” even if he’s more versatile. Plus Lebrons ball dominance can take away from some guys, like idk why Lebron and Magic were picked together.
On that Paul George pick Low had Gary Payton, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Klay Thompson, Moses Malone, James Worthy, and you went with PG? Thats wild bro.
Yessssir 0 dislikes, people not bitching over their favorite player not being picked, just enjoying the entertainment. People need to realize everyone has their own opinions. ik its early but 843-0 is great on a vid like this especially.
Clique's and Bsolz's teams were the best... I liked LoW's team but it could have done with another player that could play PF... should have added another 2-3 participants as it is hard to make a bad choice where only a total 50 players all time are being picked... interestingly, the likes of Rodman, Hayes, McAdoo, McHale, Barry, Havlicek, Stockton, Frazier etc. never get selected
@@callmedpo stop the 🧢 regardless if you think Steve Nash should’ve won that or not doesn’t mean what I said is wrong 🏀🔥 if Dame is there, it’s clear Nash would fit there easily
@@MOCdude if you matchup Dame on Nash… ain’t NO WAY, Nash could ever check Dame… if anyone got snubbed it’s John Stockton. He’s the NBA’s all-time leader in assist and steals… It’s just my opinion though
@@callmedpo Dame isn’t checking Steve Nash either & it’s a lot worse since Nash is the better playmaker. I do believe Stockton is somewhat snubbed but these guys don’t like Stockton begin with
LoW didn’t even mention the interior and perimeter gravity combination provided from steph and shaq would be literally unstoppable then you throw in harden and KG like yea he has easily the best lineup
@@sheeshjezz6176 theyre average defenders but their offense is by far the best out of every team. the bench is actually not even that bad lol its pretty good and offense > defense
@@soradps I see what your saying but offense not really the best because I say clique and his bench kinda not that good at all but if you a offense guy you might like it
Clique should do a series where he makes each of your teams and does a simulation to see who wins the most rings.
I’d instantly click to watch that 🔥
Facts
That or they all play there games like an oline league
Tweet clique and also put it in his discord he’ll see it
Need!
R.I.P Kobe but him over MJ is some of the wildest shit I’ve heard all year
I’d prolly do the same thing, but I’m also biased
If Kobe was on those Bulls teams he winning less than 6 rings???
In terms of an all time draft head to head it’s not that bad cause yu focusing on skill set and they have the same skill set just kobe has a better three
@@twitterkiwi2056 I don’t know because it’s not possible to actually know
Lol no it’s not Kobe is a better ball handler better defender and a better 3 ball shooter 💯
Los has to be trolling theres no way he has an issue with every pick that isnt his and for absolutely no reason
Los be fumming at others picks, but his picks are wack anyway with their respective rounds
yea los picks kinda wack, cliques team is filth
? y’all jus sound like Low lmfaoo, do y’all not see everyone even chat coming at los head 24/7 for whatever he does he had good picks and everyone just hates for no reason
@@Mak2Grim exactly lmao
bro chat be on his head every pic too tf
Had me dead how on Cliques team, one of the cons is Karl Malone 😭
Same here 😂😂😂
Off court actions have nothing to do with his career. He’s still top 25 all time
@@mike04574 I never said it did lmao
That nigga kills panthers in their sleep I'm dead
@@mike04574 nah dude a pedo😂
How is playmaking one of cliques weaknesses? He literally has Chris Paul, luka, and IT.
They all play the same position while the other teams have multiple play makers at different positions
@@saibotshawdow5090 So explain low's team
@@jordanquezada2236 harden and curry are playmakers at different position
@@noti7323 hardens a player maker? Since when?
@@moneyroute9809 he literally has been doing it on the nets tho
You only added Los to show his ignorance cuz he don’t know wtf he be talking about.
Los has to be the least intelligent when it comes to basketball. SMH.
Okay let’s not go that far. If flight had the first pick he would’ve taken AI
@@Curelessdog574 curry
@@Curelessdog574 Damn, you really just sneak dissed Charles Barkley by accident lol.
You think Los is bad, you should watch OSN he’s a far worse when it comes about basketball dude has no knowledge
@@Zi-listedRosso I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembers that draft lmao
Clique also has the best overall team, his fit is definitely the best
Lmfao Kobe and wilt!!!!!! Y’all don’t understand
@idk frrrrr ball hogs
@@waltdawgbosshog1816 0 ball movement going on for that entire team
@@waltdawgbosshog1816that team is horrible. Scottie, west, bird and drose are the only ones on los team who could play into a system who could provide offense.
cliques team is the best by far
oh hell no not with lukas bum ass and cp3
@@rmelo2382 troll alert 🚨
@@rmelo2382 troll much
@@jss8093 nah luka don’t belong with those dudes with cp i may have overreacted and if you think otherwise you are wrong my opinion is supreme
@@User45x92 yo profile built on someone else as if you can talk ablut trolling
Rage just won’t put that face cam on😂
Yea he a cornball
@@flaco4249 he doesn’t have a camera🤦🏾♂️he says he has no need so he never bought won
@@bmebuzz8718 nigga ain't no way you believe that rich nigga don't got a camera. it's just part of his charm at this point to not have a facecam
@@prokolipsi5607 im not sayin he can’t afford it but i can believe he hasn’t bought a face cam yea
@@bmebuzz8718 lol stop riding him bro. He’s a grown ass man afraid to show his face
I find it ironic I went back at yall previous debates and Los shits on older players saying they aren't as good as this era, but then picks all old school players. Gotta love it lmao
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he's trying to look more established now but 88 iq has no idea what he's talking about
Los is a walking L biggest casual ever
he was looking that shit up you could see it lmao
Los just saying random legends, not a cohesive team at all
Clique definitely had the best most well rounded team
My god could you even imagine the terror of an inside out game ran by Shaq and Steph, the definition of pick your poison
That’s exactly what I thought. Low had this on absolute lockdown and then he went off the rails picking Harden and PG13 that early.
What you expect from a bunch of 2k clowns who know little to nothing about actual NBA history
Los was looking up the best players in every position on google 😂😂
Rage was tweaking if you got bron you don’t need a second point guard like magic who isn’t a good shooter and would mess up spacing
No it’s a great pic because you have magic and LeBron running your fast break with Bill Russell rebounding and out letting to them You’re not taxing either one of them because both of them can ball handle that’s a great pick
@@elevatorelliot714 Spacing enters the chat.
@@MoXy33 that’s why he got Dirk and Klay but yes spacing is still somewhat of an issue
Magic and Bron running a pick n roll? Magic and Bron on a fastbreak? Magic and Bron moving at the same time? Spacing isn’t as big as an issue when you can make plays like that, Magic isn’t Ben Simmons lmao
Plus magic shot over 30% from 3 in the 4 seasons before his aids including a season he made 100+ of them on 38%. That right there tells me Magic could of learned to shoot better way earlier on if he needed to.
I do think Wilt is a good pick. Wilt is like 7’1”, fast as hell, and has a good vert. He also is stronger than just about every player ever. He will be a great shot blocker, lob threat, and paint beast. Just pair him with a good PG like Nash and it’s a great pairing
People been disrespectful to wilt. He literally hold Kareem to 46% shooting when he was 35. And a 37 old Kareem shoot 60% when match up with Hakeem
I'm saying bro wilt the best center all time
Wilt chamberlain is the worst player of all time
You aint no basketball fan. Your thumbnail alone says it all clown
Still not better than Shaq bruh
Bruh how does dr j fall to round 10 and dame gets picked that early 😭😭
Clique’s team is by far the best, in terms of both talent and fit
Nash, Kidd, Stockton and Isiah Thomas were all undrafted. They're all arguably top 5 PGs all time.
Bro, not even Hakeem was picked arguably 2nd to 3rd best center of all time
If bsolz got stockton instead of lillard, he for sure had the best starting 5
@@monsta6501 did you guys even watch the video? lol
@@xepthicc1201 Yes we did. Your fav streamers dont know jack about basketball pre 2001. Present day andies they all are
@@monsta6501your og comment said Hakeem wasn’t picked, and he was literally picked first round by clique, didn’t pay attention to the video at all
Los is such a mood killer
Los went outta his way so hard to not answer that mj Kobe question 😂😂😂
Rage and Clique- best chemistry and versatility selections. Easily the best two.
Los picking Moses Malone in the 9th was an insane steal
Every team is great and evenly matched!
Clique had the best team fosho
Clique definitely has the best starting lineup when taking fit into account
Good to see clique and bsolz, my top 5 fav bball you tubers
“Los is a fraud” in chat after he said KD is round 4
The Average height today is 6'7 and the average height in the 60s were 6'6 so I don't understand how Wilt was facing up against short people.
there was only 8 teams in the 1960 nba season, 4 in the east as well in the west while we got 30 teams currently. Obviously we know why the average of 6'7 in todays era is way more impressive and means more than back then
You understand how averages work, right? If I have a 6' dude and a 7' dude on the same team, my team's average height would be the same as one with a 6'5" and 6'7" dude. The 60's didn't really have many Trae Young's or IT's but they also didn't have the Porzingis's or the Tacko Fall's
John Stockton was heavily disrespected in this draft LMAOOO
You know what would make this more fire if LOW played against everyone with their teams 🔥🔥
Low is tripping about the Melo and Kawhi thing I believe Kawhi is better, but leap and bounds is disrespectful
Big tripping! Said he a better scorer. That's his youth showing
Facts that was a crazy statement I believe carmelo is a top 10 small forward and one of the greatest scorers, but yes kawhi of course is better but niggas was tripping especially clique who I thought would defend him considering he loves melo.
bruh is Clique had just picked a different PG his starting Lineup would latterly been untouchable lol smh
He doesn’t start Isiah, but he could if he wanted to, and Isiah is literally the third best point guard in NBA history.
@@erictynes265 That is Facts
I’d play big and put luka at pg. luka,kawhi,Kd,ad, the dream. With isiah Thomas being the true pg of the bench.
@@erictynes265 no he’s not lol. Curry, Magic, The Big O are the obvious big three casual
They should do this draft and move it to 2k n play with the team they drafted
getting back to back picks is fire
it’s crazy how MJ still went 3rd😂
He the 3rd best player ever it’s destiny
@@thefaceofunemployment1373 huh?
He went 3rd again in the 75th anniversary official all time draft. Must be a curse fr
Clique is so good at building teams, dude slayed as the 1st pick and the last pick on this one
Not single person picked Hakeem Olajuwon. This draft is trash as expected from 2k clowns
@@monsta6501bud did NOT watch the video
Between Clique and Low for me on which team is the best, especially with today's NBA, they have the most shooters and best spacing all around
LOS is hilarious😭😂😂bro is fried lmao
Bsloz,Low ,and Clique got the best Teams .
Aside from the morality strike against him… These five in a league Clique and LOW definitely the two to beat
This draft just goes to show that even low and bsolz aren’t as smart b-ball fans as they go to show
@Blæck Mïrrör lmao he clearly was
No picked Elgin Baylor or David Thompson 🤔
some of these picks are wild😂😂😂
The fact that MJ fell to 3 is just blasphemy
He always fell to 3 like when chuck chose AI at #1
Bro how was dame picked but and Westbrook wasn't even in discussion 💀
Let‘s be real. You can say Westbrook had a better all around career than Dame. But if you‘re building an all time team, you would never pick Russ over Dame. Especially since spacing matters so much
Did it bother anyone else that they were calling him Cliques the whole time and not Clique
The best video of all time
Wild that Stockton went undrafted
Clique has the best all around perfect fit team
Current day CP3 might be weak choice, but prime CP3 is definitely one of the GOAT point guards.
This finna be good 🔥💪
Los needs to hit the ball books, highlights, stats and awards
Imagine researching the NBA with highlights.
Bro no one talking bout lows team? He has great scorers and incredible defense at the same time. Bout to be unstoppable
1: Clique
2: Bsolz
3: Rage (only if he moves LeBron to the point, start Klay , Tmac, Giannis and Dirk)
Giannis and LeBron run Pick and Roll with shooters everywhere.
4: Low
5: Los
Rage's team is better than Bsolzs team
The disrespect to magic, good lord
@@sirbradfordofhousejones I think in this instance it’s better to have him off the bench. That’s just my opinion though. Can’t really go wrong with magic starting either.
Low and Clique the only ones who knew what they were doing drafting lol
Except that Reggie Miller pick
If we're doing all time.. can only go off accomplishments and impact on the game because play style evolves over time and you learn from past. Therefore Los had the best team
2k simulation over three seasons i also put who you guys put as your starters and I reset after 1 year so there would be no regressions these are the stats rage was the clear better regular season team but Los ended with the most championships
3rd Los overall record 220-26 89%
4th Los overall record vs others 17-22 43%
3rd Losses to cpu 4
1st Championships won 2
3rd Low overall record 220-26 89%
5th Low overall record vs others 16-23 41%
2nd Losses to cpu 3
5th Championships won 0
1st Rage overall record 228-18 93%
1st Rage overall record vs others 26-16 61%
1st Losses to cpu 2
2nd Championships won 1
4th Clique overall record 215-31 87%
2nd Clique overall record vs others 22-20 52%
5th Losses to cpu 11
5th Championships won 0
2nd Bsolz overall record 227-19 92%
3rd Bsolz overall record vs others 12-12 50%
4th Losses to cpu 7
5th Championships won 0
Clique has the best by far
When I saw clique cons and its was karl malone I couldn't stop laughing
Aye Clique need to do a sim lol. He the GOAT wit it 💯
Rage for sure has the best team
Rage’s team has a starting lineup with at least 2 DPOYs
Just Started watching Clique he has good content and he funny
Clique and yrg teams are elite!!
The fact that y’all was saying kawhi is a better scorer than melo is insane 💀 melo has a scoring title for a reason playing against and with AI, Kobe, Bron, Wade, Dirk etc like that’s wild
Kawhi the better player, but melos the better scorer. Cant under rate his #s in his prime.
Yea Kawhi never been a better scorer than Melo. That Toronto ring got em trippin
He is a better scorer though. The only reason people don’t see him as one is because he was in the spurs system most of his career. Ever since he left the spurs he’s averaged 26 points and shooting around 49% with 34mpg. Carmelo as the main scoring option in his prime averaged 25 on 45% shooting with 36mpg.
@@dre27321 but no scoring title and melo has had way more scoring explosions, higher points totaled in a game and higher points in total by like 11k or some like that. I will agree with you though that it could be caused by playing in the spurs system because kawhi in Toronto was a scoring beast
Playoffs tho kawhi is a way better scorer
A team with Isaiah Thomas, Chris Paul and Luka has playmaking as one of the cons. Are you ok brother?
Yall tripping big time
Steph and Shaq pick & roll alone clears every other team
Clique or Bsolz had the best team hands down besides the dame pick I would replace him with nash for more playmaking thats the only thing that could be corrected tbh
if luka and cp get cut then yuh
The more I listened to this the more I realized half these guys don't know much about basketball lol
@foot on the line what does the coulda been cents t shirt mean and what happen to lowd up channel i liked thos???
LOW usually has the most all around team every time they do drafts like this
Clique's line up has no cons playmaking is handled i mean cp3 luka it and then i get karl malone is a scumbag but still a okay player
They all made bad choices but lets not forget, Rage could have had Curry, Jordan, Bird, Giannis and Dirk. That team has everything. Ultimate slasher/scorer in Jordan along side the ultimate version of the splash bros, his big combo of Dirk and Giannis would work nicely so props for that although with Curry and Dirk I'd need some defenders off the bench.
Hindsight’s 20/20. Plus Bron is far more versatile than Jordan so that was his only great pick
@@billputney2533 Lebron is not “far more versatile” even if he’s more versatile. Plus Lebrons ball dominance can take away from some guys, like idk why Lebron and Magic were picked together.
@@KleinpeterHank As if MJ isn’t the most ball dominant player in history?
@@jacksonmiller7745 Los had Kobe, Melo and Wilt?
@@KleinpeterHankNope. Far more versatile is a very fair assessment.
Y’all need to run a 2k tournament w the teams you picked tbh
shaq and steph go CRAZY lol
The Stockton disrespect from these fools was hurtful
He's overrated
@@imfrederic2312 yeah but you cant tell me that he wouldnt be amazing surrounded by those stars.
Clique got that
That Penny Hardaway pick though?! Clutch!
Lesson learned clique is built different
On that Paul George pick Low had Gary Payton, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Klay Thompson, Moses Malone, James Worthy, and you went with PG? Thats wild bro.
and dr j/russ
Nigga really picked Playoff P over the Glove. Wildin.
If I ever do a NBA all time draft the only rule is MJ goes #1.
Los just continues to expose himself more and more as a casual
Yessssir 0 dislikes, people not bitching over their favorite player not being picked, just enjoying the entertainment. People need to realize everyone has their own opinions. ik its early but 843-0 is great on a vid like this especially.
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This is the most casual draft I’ve ever seen. This is like a 2K draft it’s unbelievable how little NBA knowledge these guys have
Ikr, they really out here picking fucking Dame, PG, Melo, etc. over the likes of Stockton and Dr. J, it’s painful
Ain’t no way you taking Stockton over PG .. especially not as a back up player lol cause they all chose better PGs better than Stockton
@@iannadeau6565 Stockton has had like 1 top 10 MVP finish in his whole career. He's fringe top 50
Clique's and Bsolz's teams were the best... I liked LoW's team but it could have done with another player that could play PF... should have added another 2-3 participants as it is hard to make a bad choice where only a total 50 players all time are being picked... interestingly, the likes of Rodman, Hayes, McAdoo, McHale, Barry, Havlicek, Stockton, Frazier etc. never get selected
My top 5 in every position. PG. Magic. Curry. Robertson. Stockton. Thomas. SG. Jordan. Kobe. Wade. Harden. Iverson. SF. Lebron. Bird. Durant. Erving. Pippen. PF. Duncan. Garnett. Dirk. Malone. Barkley/Giannis. C. Kareem. Wilt. Hakeem. Shaq. Russell.
Everything is perfect except Wilt, Wilt is too high, should be 5th all time among centers.
Clique team is All defense, Great Guards and scorers
Steve Nash should’ve been picked around the 5th pick, they always sleeping on the 2x MVP
Stop the 🧢 he never should’ve won that MVP over Kobe
@@callmedpo stop the 🧢 regardless if you think Steve Nash should’ve won that or not doesn’t mean what I said is wrong 🏀🔥 if Dame is there, it’s clear Nash would fit there easily
@@MOCdude if you matchup Dame on Nash… ain’t NO WAY, Nash could ever check Dame… if anyone got snubbed it’s John Stockton. He’s the NBA’s all-time leader in assist and steals… It’s just my opinion though
@@callmedpo Dame isn’t checking Steve Nash either & it’s a lot worse since Nash is the better playmaker. I do believe Stockton is somewhat snubbed but these guys don’t like Stockton begin with
one of BSOLZ teams pros were “Duncan/Kareem in the paint”
I want 28 minutes of my life back.
los is the biggest casual ive ever seen bro 😭 when he said carmelo anthony and defense i thought my ears were deceiving me
Kawhi is better than Melo but he isn't "leaps and bounds" better than Melo. I agree with Los.
Nah I think he is, Melo might be a better scorer but it’s close and Kawhi is a better playmaker and way, way, way better defender
He’s definitely leaps and bounds better than Melo
Clique won easy
The fact that Dwade was still isn't picked at the halfway point, is crazy.
It’s amazing how everyone but los is actually making no sense 🤣
Los’s teams weakness is defense? You are all casuals
LoW didn’t even mention the interior and perimeter gravity combination provided from steph and shaq would be literally unstoppable then you throw in harden and KG like yea he has easily the best lineup
Not the best team because his bench kinda ass and his backcourt of Curry and harden suck on defense so idk but offense he really good
@@sheeshjezz6176 theyre average defenders but their offense is by far the best out of every team. the bench is actually not even that bad lol its pretty good and offense > defense
@@soradps I see what your saying but offense not really the best because I say clique and his bench kinda not that good at all but if you a offense guy you might like it
@@soradps and his bench is the worst out of all the teams besides maybe los and idk if pg is good enough to gurad all the backcourt guards
this was a lit stream
Y’all should do a 5 player draft then take it to the blacktop