All Dark Side Exile Party Comments
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- Every comment that party members make to the Jedi Exile if she/he is heavily aligned towards the dark side of the Force.
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#StarWars #KOTOR2 #Expandeduniverse - Hry
Approval from HK-47 is what many of us need to get through the day.
🤣🤣 W
This is the Way.
Statement: You are doing incredibly well in your job/school/prison kitchen. Keep up the good work, Master.
I love how concerned they are when they look like zombies themselves lol
To lend them Olay would be to rob them of their struggle, to deny them the experience of enduring the ship's very, *very* dry air. Depriving them of this fight would turn the ash of their skin into ash in their mouths.
Anyone destroyed by these superior air conditioning settings is too weak to live.
Atton kinda addresses this 2:47
"I do not turn on my allies like the Jedi turned on their own during the wars."
Hot *damn.*
Even Dark-siders have standards
The worst part about going dark side: Ruining Atton’s face
Really brings out the jedi hunter in him.
"Always was ugly...Now the outside matches."
but going Dark Side i feel vastly improves Bao-Dur, Handmaiden, and Mira
@@skippythealien9627 Yes their dark side looks are so cool
I always appreciated how protective Bao-Dur is of the Exile, he is one of their oldest friends after all.
He did serve w the exile in the wars so it make sense
Wait, I didn't think they were more than military acquaintances- when they first meet, the exile doesn't recognize Bao, Bao saying he was one of the engineers that served under the player character
@@nicholaswomack9027 It's the game's subtle way of emphasizing the power and consuming effects of the Exile's force bonds. To the Exile, Bao-Dur is just a nameless grunt she barely remembers, while Bao-Dur remembers her as the one who ended the war and completely changed his life. His general.
I'm just happy to hear him say something other than "Yes, general?"
"Then I shall view you as disposable."
"Ah, now you are learning."
lol
“Hey what’s wrong with your face?”
Me: “Are mirrors not a thing for the companions?”
Bao Dur has the silkiest smooth voice. He could read the phone book to me and I’d be in bliss city, you feel me?
"Yes, general" still lives rent-free in my mind.
Zabrak ASMR.
"It's that woman, we have to get away from her. _she will destroy you_ "
To this day, it is still mindblowing to me how much thought was put into this game's writing. As much as I admire KOTOR1, it had a very straightforward story and characters, and KOTOR2 brings so much more depth
Exile talks to a walking carpet and everyone thinks it's fine but the fledgling in vtmb talks to a tv and suddenly they're crazy
1:50 I love how one dialoge option is Force Choke. "Your lack of faith is disturbing me!" *force chock*
I wish KoTOR 1 had more skill and ability dialogue checks like KoTOR 2.
If I'm reading into this correctly I think Kreia makes an interesting case for dark side users to be something of selfish-altruistic.
By aiding others you take up their struggle and steal their potential to grow from experience thus empowering yourself.
Dark side users covet power, right? And selective altruism has much potential to allow one to test themselves through others struggle.
It would be an interesting thing to see a Jedi make the case to a Sith. Say, A Jedi needs help saving a community from raiders and a Sith is looking to master their lightsaber handling.
The Sith could help the community not because they care about the communities lives but because they needed material to improve their fighting skills.
Might be an interesting idea for a story. Jedi manipulating Sith.
I’ve actually tinkered with this kinda idea in the Old republic campaign that I do with my friends. It’s pretty fun
I agree. I'm always a fan of Dark-siders that aren't the classic power-murder-betrayal-evil that most Sith tend to be. Kriea, Revan, DS Exile (depending on how you play), etc. This selfish-altruistic Dark-sider sounds amazing.
This would have been the best way for the True Sith to go.
What Sith is more dangerous than one that is willing to work with others - including other Sith - for the purpose of taking on others burdens as they seek their own goal?
Good or evil, taking on the burdens of others - and succeeding - breeds fervent loyalty.
The biggest roadblock I can see to this kind of interesting take is that most Sith are compelled to seek power from most every source, killing the villagers and the Jedi as well to feed off the pain and hatred it would generate is a foregone conclusion. Clever Sith usually only leave people alive to manipulate or perpetually feed off them later, it all has to be written very carefully if it’s to be a believable action for a Sith to take. A dark Jedi though? The nuance makes way more sense without Sith philosophy in the way.
"This is the face of power and you will learn to respect it" LMAOOO
Throughout the game we are told, that Jedi and Sith are not so different, that they all stem from the same source. That they are all Jedi, with different philosophies.
But here, just here, perhaps the most important quote about the Force:
"The highest of mysteries cannot be found by falling to the Dark Side"
Dark Side offers strength to the user, a single person. Light Side offers strength to everyone around. And it leads to knowledge and enlightement. Whereas Dark Side, just as Kreia and Yoda said, is quick and often short.
Be careful of your choices every day
Gotta love HK. The Darkside is always more fun.
0:49 I don't know why, but standing in the kitchen making food and listening to this the sudden cut from HK-47 to Emo Bao-Dur made me bust a gut. I laughed so hard I had to walk back in here to type this.
I always wonder, did Revan program HK to be sadistic? I know that Revan fell specifically to be an anti-hero figure and prepare the Galaxy for the return of the true Sith, but making an assassin droid (who is already designed to kill remorselessly) sadistic is icing on the cake. lol
Good question it probably helps him perform his primary function better anyway
Memory wiping your droid robs it of experience. As I recall, Revan simply found it amusing. HK probably just developed a taste for a job well done.
@@PutkisenSetä That makes sense, I think I remember reading about that at some point as well. That makes HK even more of an interesting character since originally he was just programmed to kill, developed a taste for killing and became the way he is now.
He was drunk on the Dark Side at the time.
It was likely to make HK more human. Revan seemed to find an ironic value in using humanity to destroy and convert Jedi. He likely wanted HK47 to be more than a mindless droid that eliminates his targets. So he gave him traits that gave him more personality. Referring to organics as "Meatbags", finding sadistic enjoyment from the elimination of his master's enemies, and taking pride in his own efficiency. Those traits drove the very nature of his programming.
HK-47 is basically Stewie Griffin 😂😂
Love these compilations of my favorite game, please post more like this.
Wow, man! That's extremely generous of you. Thank you! I'm more than open to suggestions. There's plenty of videos that are viewer requested. So if you have any ideas you want to see, let me know.
@@PapitoQinn It's no problem at all man, I love seeing these old games get attention. If it's not a big ask, you could check out Pillars of Eternity. (just first one) Snippets and compilations from that would be cool. Made by Obsidian when Avellone was still there.
I know of it. I've kept up with everything Obisidian has done. Although I've never played it. I didn't know it was fully voice acted either. From what I understand though, Chris Avellone only wrote one thing for it. The grieving mother?
@@PapitoQinn He did Greiving Mother and Durance, the priest. I don't know what else he had to do with the story, but Durance was my favorite.
KOTOR 2 is my favorite game as well!
“Systems failinnnng master!”
I like how Bao-Dur points out that "many jedi looked like you"
It's crazy for me to think that there probably were Jedi still nominally fighting for "republic" while already exhibiting obvious signs of dark side corruption, the discoloured skin and yellow eyes, they probably even still saw themselves as being "the good guys" while no doubt engaging in indiscriminate slaughter, no wonder they turned Sith so easily.
I was hoping for this, love these vids so much, can't wait to see what else you make
DUDE "RANDOM CRUELTY GENERATOR" LMFAO
“Have you not been getting enough sleep lately?” Ah yes when I miss a few days sleep I generally look like a rotting corpse as well
There's a certain irony to everyone expressing concern about the Exile's appearance, and talking of redemption while their faces are just as scarred as the Exile's.
On a side note, I wonder if there is any dialogue for maintaining neutrality or wild alignment swings (ie. Reach peak light side only to plummet to full dark side, or vice versa).
I don't think so. I just did a run in KOTOR 2 where I maxed Light Side and then went Dark Side to try and get a Sith prestige class and Force Crush, and it's just the same - they comment on you when you hit a Light threshold for the first time, and they comment on you when you hit a certain Dark threshold for the first time, but there was no stuff for "hey, you used to be a good guy, what's up with that." I did notice Atton is the first to comment on your alignment shifts either way, but that's probably because he's the first party member you have and he's meant to be saying this stuff on Telos.
I really wish there was more choice over who you got to pick as your party, I find I never use the droids outside of their specific missions, would have far more use for the Handmaiden and Hanharr.
Well of you are purely worried about combat effectiveness if you have high repair or computer use HK and t3-m4 get quite good from upgrades
My biggest gripe, however, is the absolute NEED to separate Brianna and Michel the way they did. Why? If it's pretty much established that the Exile was female, what was the point in making the Disciple and the Handmaiden gender locked?
@@stephencochrane6805 couldn't agree more.
@@brydon5721 Then again, my idea for the Michel and Brianna separation probably wouldn't have been much better. See, what I think Obsidian should have done was do something similar to Virmire from the Mass Effect games. Where both originally were your companions, sent by their respective factions to spy on the Exile after Telos Part 1, and during the War with the Mercenaries on Dantooine, both get pinned down and Kreia forces you to choose who lives and who dies.
@@stephencochrane6805 It's always good when you face a decision like that as it will change the game in different ways.
I'd be worried too if being friends with the Exile meant I would look like a corpse.
It'll make it easier to do a more proper recreation of the video for Thriller. You know, for fun.
atton lecturing you on your darkness, really ironic haha
Finally, they're acknowledging my goshdarn evil character's appearance! Eat on that, KotOR I and Mass Effect!
Wait, why are they not reacting to their own appearances?
Lol makes me laugh that they don’t acknowledge they look like corpses themselves
How come no sith assassin has a skin problem? Eh, they shoulda added some skill that drains health from yourself/companions to boost force powers and tied the degradation to that instead.
@@PutkisenSetä eh I mean when I did an earlier play though as that same class my characters skin looked horrible so
I think Atton touches on this one. He says that whatever is affecting you is affecting everyone else, and that they may not be strong enough to contain it.
Most likely the others have spoken amongst themselves and agreed that something is wrong, aware that its affecting them but that the core of it is Kreia and the player.
Bastila did acknowledged the PC evil character appearance when he went down the dark path and so did Carth briefly after you discover you are Revan on the dark side.
-If you think I've fallen that far why not strike me down?
-Your plot armor is just too strong for me.
Girl giving Miss Mical a ol' nasty piece of Force Choke ain't gon change the fact you are serving cryptkeeper teas in the face
No. But it'll make me feel better.
Great video but I prefer using the light side of the Exile while playing KOTOR 2. From what I've learned about Meetra Surik because she subconsciously cut her herself off from the force after Malachor V...she didn't feel the lure of the dark side
4:46 I know Kreia. Why do you think my Revan chose Lightside after a Darkside filled gameplay ? It's because I chose not to fall, but to study in neutrality.
I just reinstalled the game back on Steam. I need to play it. Found the Restored Content mod too with some texture upgrades. Need to find the Party Swap mod as well.
I find it funny how this game and Kreia called how the true nature of the Jedi and the Force in 2004. This was before Episode III even released, the movie that shows the Jedi Order finally being destroyed for the ignorance and refusing to adapt their outdated traditions, along with how the Force and it's "destiny" was basically the cause of it via Anakin Skywalker.
Bao-Der and the Handmaiden have the best dark side appearance. :)
I can't stand his voice tbh, he's the only companion I dont like at all
Bao Dur joins the Insane Clown Possee and Handmaiden becomes emo. I love it.
Meetra: *force chokes the Disciple*
Disciple: Joke's on you I'm into that shit
3:20
Handmaiden sith robe, how does one acquire that?
She has to lean to the dark side. So either be on the dark side yourself and have high influence. Or be on the light side and have low influence with her.
I wanted to ask, aside from KOTOR 2, what other games or media would you recommend that you consider to be well written and thought provoking?
TL:DR if you don't want my reasoning and just want to take my word for it: The Elder Scrolls Morrowind (yes the one predating Skyrim), SWTOR (yes the MMO made based on KOTOR), Portal 1 & Portal 2, Pathologic 2, the FIRST (!!) Deus Ex, Fallout New Vegas, Dragon Age Origins, Cultist Simulator, Bioshock 1 & 2 (3 if you enjoyed those), and Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.
Mm, there's a lot of games that have well-written and thought-provoking _sections._ And honestly, that's enough for me because a game kinda needs to let you stop thinking about it from time to time and just sorta do the things for the satisfaction of having to think about it to settle in. It's like how running a marathon feels great but no one would want to run for their lives all the time.
So with that said...
- Morrowind and its core storyline about the Almsivi, betrayal of the Nevarine, and the like hit me. Honestly, the game has novels worth of writing - including short novels actually written in it. It has good and thought provoking writing in it by sheer virtue of how much writing is in it. It also has no morality bar, so you're choosing your morality for yourself.
- SWTOR has its moments. If you're willing to subscribe to an MMO for a month, the Agent storyline has no clear cut Dark or Light paradigm. Rather, it asks you questions about patriotism, the greater good, sacrifice of the few for the many, who deserves truth, and sets you deep inside a conspiracy to reclaim your own mind. The Bounty Hunter storyline likewise has some really surprisingly deep cuts that ask you about what it means to be a hired gun and if being just a hired gun is enough or if you should want more, what the Mandalorians are, what ways you can be a Mandalorian in, and how being a patriot or a Jedi can still make you the bad person through hypocrisy and self-serving denial. There's also a lot of storytelling that isn't told to you per se - situations you find yourself in on quest that aren't acknowledged out loud but have deeper elements. Other choices, while having clear light vs dark elements, are still pretty compelling to me - one quest has you put bombs inside devices. The quest giver wants you to put them in commlinks, which even civilians might pick up. The second one argues it's terrorism and asks you to put them in just weapons, so only soldiers will collect them and be hit. If you side with the second guy, the first points out that civilian deaths could have helped draw the will to fight out of the rebels by showing how their actions had consequences. Honestly, it's also just another entry for "there's so much writing in it that by sheer volume, some of it is really good." Reading the Codex entries that you unlock has this effect a lot.
- So...Portal 1 & 2 are well-written comedies, which have thought provoking puzzles. The writing isn't what's thought provoking, but it is part of what makes the game good.
- Pathologic is notoriously intense, but it's also notoriously borderilne unplayable. The game covers 12 days of a game and only 14% of players keep playing past day 4. Pathologic 2, on the other hand, manages to be just as cutting and playable. After 3 hours of reviewing Pathologic and saying he can't recommend it despite all the things he loves about it, a reviewer named Hbomberguy demands you play Pathologic 2.
- Deus Ex is considered one of the most thought provoking games ever made, and there are dialogues and interactions that still get quoted verbatim because in true cyberpunk fashion, they predicted how the world could look in dystopia that became reality. Note: I mean the ORIGINAL Deus Ex. Not Invisible War or Human Revolution or whatever came after Human Revolution. The first one.
- Dragon Age: Origins is made by Bioware, and does something I love, which is that it includes no morality meter. The only feedback is your companions judging you, and if you want you can tailor your party to favor companions who will all agree certain choices were great, or send companions away when you do quest start or completion dialogue, or just use the DLC gifts and offset their disapproval. Because of there being no morality meter, and no real consequence to the approval or disapproval of companions since gifts in DLC can offset it if you have it (and the game is so old it's bundled with all its DLCs for extremely cheap)...well. You have to decide your own morality. Note, the game doesn't lack moral feedback because there's no moral choices being made. The City Elf starting quest gives you a choice to avenge a friend's rape by killing him and probably get guards loosed on the city elf village, or walk away knowing he'll keep raping her for a night, but afterwards he'll let her go and you'll get a shitload of money. There are reasons about the greater good you might not want the first one, but being paid to allow a man to keep raping a woman is the kind of thing that fucking sticks with you even in the context of a game.
- Similar to Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout New Vegas (made by Obsidian, the company that made KOTOR 2) is fucking full of these shades of gray segments where different philosophy and moral ethos will lead you to different choices but all feel complicated. In one, you find a way to enslave humans through plant spores that degenerate their higher learning was a byproduct of a means to mass manufacture plants in the middle of the fallout-stricken Mojave Desert. The scientist you find tells you that you should delete the information because it'll be misused. You can either agree with her, or bring the whole truth of what happened and really try to argue about the horror of what went down and trust that authority figures would be appalled by it too, or you can bring part of the truth to teach them how to farm and just hope no one in authority who would misuse it discovers the mind control part. Oh, and you only get to argue which of these you should do with the scientist if you have high Science rankings herself - otherwise she'll attack you for refusing to delete the information and it's clear you'd have to kill her to stop her from deleting it, and that's a choice too.
- Cultist Simulator, a small indie game about building a Lovecraftian cult played through cards, has all sorts of deeply weird and mystifying writing that hints at a wider world of wonder but also madness and insanity. It has all kinds of themes about how reality is gray and we should either look for higher meaning or at the very least embrace heartfelt debauchery, the dangers of a wider public knowing the truth, the fascistic threat posed by authority figures even if they're censoring what's genuinely damaging, the way your life can be ruined by circumstance. It's a lot and the game has no interest in telling you how to play it so it's a ton of trial and error, treat it as a Roguelike (i.e. Dwarf Fortress or something where death is required) but it's very good.
- Bioshock _famously_ has some really intense themes about the risks of both extreme laisse faire economic deregulation and the extremes of communism and how both can be hijacked by cults of personality, as well as metaplots and themes of how the main character really had no choice about what happened in the end, but the people who did were shaped by the choices he made (especially true in 2) and therefore you never really know when your destiny is in someone else's hands or why they would do it.
- Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines is fucking amazing and is one of the only games I've seen that has the balls to give you outcomes where you get offed for trusting the wrong people at the end. It's a lot but it takes about 12 hours to play and it's so good. I'd give you more information but it's one of those plots that's about reading between the lines, deciding who meant what when they said which thing, and I want you to discover it for yourself.
@@MakashiOwns Thanks. I’ll take a look into them.
Morrowind and Fallout New Vegas
@@MakashiOwns You have good taste in games. Definitely recommend many on your list. A couple of indie gems worth checking out akin to Cultist Simulator might be Shadows of the Forbidden Gods and Vagrus the Riven Realms, with the latter of the two being closer to that kotor2/FNV/obsidian level of writing.
@@Yehu12311 Always wild to click on a reply and see a post I forgot I wrote. Thanks, though. I'm glad you like it :) Also in the vein of Cultist Simulator: Sunless Skies & Sunless Seas.
Atton and the Exile Meetra surrik becomes very close together they accomplish a lot!❤❤❤❤❤❤Love Meetra surrik and Papatia Quinn❤❤❤❤❤
There must always be a Darth Traya 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤with all my love kreia!!! I love you Mical forever ❤❤❤❤❤and Atton my friend for life!!!
About this in the first game for whatever reason Revan's face isn't tainted by the dark side even after falling to the dark side. You'd think it would be a dead giveaway that you're Revan. Its the one issue the plot twist that game has.
What do you mean? Your character's face does morph in KoTOR 1.
That’s because their brainwashing affected his alignment, and Revan always wore a hood and mask after falling to the dark side. Even high ranking Sith on Korriban don’t recognize you as Revan.
@@PapitoQinn It's much more noticeable in Kotor 2. In that game others would even comment on it but not in Kotor 1.
What is that Grey Matukai Robe? A mod? Looks cool for Dark Side users.
It's been a while. I think they're just dark jedi master robes, but I don't really remember.
They appear to be Aleema Keto’s robe, a powerful and hard to find endgame robe.
Do Mandalore and Visas have no comment on this?
No. Neither does G0-T0 and T3-M4.
Can anyone please tell me what the background theme is while talking to the hk47 droid and Bao dur?
Valley of Dark Lords
@@PapitoQinn thanks that does seem like the theme for when talking to the hk47 droid. Do you know the theme for when talking to Bao Dur
@@omayne Oh, sorry about that. The Bao-Dur one is "Korriban"
Does Visas not have any dialogue for this?
Nope. Neither does Canderous, G0-T0, or T3-M4.
@@PapitoQinn you'd think canderous would, he is a veteran of both the mandalorian war and the jedi civil war
@@RamboSnoop Canderous seeing a DS Exile after getting shanked by DS Revan: Ah shit, here we go again
What mod you use?
For KoTOR 2 I only use the restored content mod and the canon exile mod.
I found this annoying, I thought your companions would be swayed and take on your point of view and perspective etc.
Lol this is what Wokeness does to people.
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Great video but I prefer using the light side of the Exile while playing KOTOR 2. From what I've learned about Meetra Surik because she subconsciously cut her herself off from the force after Malachor V...she didn't feel the lure of the dark side
I feel like that's part of why she could fall to it. As she slowly regains the force, it could corrupt her.
@Aurorial in the game you can play light or dark side but in Canon Meetra being a wound in the force and unable to feel it in herself except by her bound with Kreia and others around her. Meetra shouldn't be able to feel the dark side because she isn't entirely like Darth Nihilus even though they are wounds in the force. Meetra still knows right from wrong and has always followed the path of the light
@@georgesuarez8325 Fair enough. Makes me wanna play through again but it means I'd have to face those twins again T_T