Colt 633 Department Of Energy (DOE) 9mm SMG Upper Receiver Reproduction by Liemohn Manufacturing
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- In this video we take a detailed look at a reproduction of the Colt 633 Department Of Energy (DOE) 9mm SMG upper receiver that is produced by Liemohn Manufacturing.
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One of my buddies became an armorer for DOE. The man is living the dream
Why does the dept of energy need weapons?
@@kitdaberserker555 Nuclear materials.
@@kitdaberserker555 DOE has full ownership of nuclear weapons because of the Atomic Energy Act.
@@kitdaberserker555 At first, my reaction was the same until I realized all the different *forms* of energy and thought, "I should totally have known that." It's gotta be cool to be an armorer for exotic weapons, nuke adjacent or not. Plus, these days we can just use iterative and AI modeling for theoretical yields and destruction, I'm rather glad he's not out on the south 40 testing small tactical nuclear weapons 😂
@@kitdaberserker555 if you have to ask you'll never know.
I’ve known Tom since High School and he does outstanding work and extremely picky about details. If it ain’t right, it doesn’t ship.
Just remember, Tom is a one-man shop who has a full time job outside of his gunsmith business so be patient if you order from him. I will say it’s well worth the wait as you will receive a better product than the original.
The blast shield is really a hand stop. Do NOT ever put your hands forward of the blast shield. Just a safety warning for folks. Does anyone prefer a date being applied to the barrel markings? Just curious if I should do that on the next batch.
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Thanks bro you must be a mensa candidate with that nugget of wisdom !!! Lol
@@sleigh4019 I would not have to warn people if I had not have it happen to a customer already.
Thanks for the helpful info. Thanks for taking the time too!
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I've purchased stuff from Tom Liemohn in the past and it's all still running great nearly 20 years later. I had no idea he was still in business. That upper is a gorgeous reproduction! I need to hit him up!
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The Punisher (of comics fame) has one of these. It's featured in one of the Armory issues. He said his was a Colt 633 DEA, though. He mentions the 635, too.
Cool video!
Thanks for sharing the comic tie-in.
@@thecoltar15resource I might do a video series on them. It was 10 issues and the 633 and 635 are featured in issue 10.
Fantastic craftsmanship from Tom. Ordered and in my hands in three days. Not always the case but I have no complaints. Moderator is next on the list.
What did it run you all in if you don't mind me asking ....????
Does he have a website?
I know it's not original to the design, but this would be nice with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. A Naughty 9 suppressor butted right up to that front plate would look incredible.
Tom was offering an option for a longer, threaded barrel for suppressor use.
@@thecoltar15resource Very nice!
Beautiful. It LITERALLY looks like a plasma or charged particle weapon from a retrofuturistic space opera. There is a reason why the AR platform has been 'America's Rifle' for the past 70 years and still going strong.
What do yoy think the proper caliber should be for something like this
@@jakewillits4678 9mm, .357 Sig or 5.7x28. Remember, it is a short barrel so you want to use a cartridge with fast burn rate so all of the powder is consumed before the projectile leaves the barrel. We've done experiments by firing a 5.56 pistol AR through a light colored bedsheet and the sheet caught A LOT of particles of unburned powder after each round.
I've literally never seen or heard of one of these before. Very cool but if I could get a colt rifle I would want the og colt m16 with the prism/pyramid shaped foregrip, like the ones they use in full metal jacket. 20in barrel looks badass on the m16.
H&R just released their classic line. I picked up a wood furniture version.
Outstanding! When I saw the post on Instagram I was blown away. Some years back, I had a photo kindly shared by a gentleman who worked at one of the DOE run facilities as a guard that mentioned carrying one of these. Always wanted to know more about them. Certainly, one of the interesting pieces Colt put out.
Own many of the parts from Liemohn and built one up with a rdb kit. It has been one of my favorite guns to run for years, even more than the 22lr and blk builds I've done. The parts they provided were immaculate and communication was always prompt.
That is so cool. Once again, thanks for sharing!
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Beautiful little upper.
Amazing Upper Receiver 😊😀❤️ I Need to Get One For Sure 👍🏼
I really like the look of this model.
Very cool RetroMod 💯
My favorite upper.
What a beauty.
Sharpe looking !
I had a 9mm conversion for my M16a1 Colt back in the day I owned title 2's. It wasn't the DOE 9mm, but it sure was a nice break from 5.56. I enjoyed shooting this much more than an MP5 that my dealer had. Very smooth to shoot 9mm thru an M16...no doubt about! I recall seeing these for sale back in the latter 90's though....the only thing that thing should have had updated was to put a 3 lug on it for a suppressor like HK's utilize.
That is the great thing about the AR platform...a person can adapt and modify them in so many ways.
Kinda cool that the 633 was issued to nuclear power plant security forces. I wonder if any of the older guys I served with saw these while they were instructors/students at the Balsam Spa NPTU since DOE handled the facility's security instead of the Navy.
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I bought one years ago and it’s perfect
this and the larger ro635/ standard colt 9mm are some nice looking ars
This is neat !
Wheres this channel been all my life! Great content brother! New subscriber 🤙
Thank you for the positive words. I'm out here just trying to share my interest in all things Colt AR related with others that are interested.
Haven't seen one of those since USEC/Martin-Marietta days at PGDP
It’s beautiful….
Awesome video good sir!
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The weight and the bolt carrier should have a multi wrap retainer pin. I have seen them walk out.
I lucked out in 2000 when a pair of original Colt DOE uppers showed up at Knob Creek, nearly missed 'em 'cause 2 GE Minis blocked my view until I got close enough to spot them! Original DOEs have a .315" take down pin at front and .250" at rear. An adapter bushing is needed to mate with a AR lower. However, if you have one and a AR lower, you have "constructive possession" of a SBR. So get your ATF tax stamp. I shoot mine with reduced loads, bore is still mirror smooth! Maybe I'll look at getting this Liemohn version, looks good!
IANAL, But I worked at a gun shop for a couple years and NFA law is kind of a special interest of mine. If the lower doesn't have a stock on the buffer tube, or it has a brace, the lower would be a pistol lower. When stripped lowers are sold, they are noted on the 4473 as "other". If it is an assembled lower with a stock, it is transferred as a rifle, if without, as a pistol. Provided you have a receiver built as a pistol (that was not originally transferred as a rifle) in your collection, it cannot be "constructive possession", as there is a legal configuration of the parts. If you ONLY have a rifle receiver, then yes, constructive possession would apply. Note that a receiver transferred as a pistol can be converted to a (nonSBR) rifle and back, but a receiver transferred as rifle cannot be made into a pistol, only an SBR (it is considered an SBR with or without a stock)
I mean no offense, but having the larger front pin for an actual DOE upper is incorrect. It is my understanding that all DOE guns were submachineguns and a variant of the M16. All M16 variants used a standard 0.250" retained with a detent, front push pin. All Colt RRs with a 0.320" in 9mm were conversions done by individuals or Class II manufacturers other than Colt.
Not to say that the large front pin 9mm upper(s) that you own are not made with Colt parts. The uppers mentioned above would not have shipped from Colt in that configuration. Colt has been known to do some odd things. But unless you have some kind of paperwork from Colt listing the large front pin upper, I would think that someone modified parts with original parts to put the large front pin 9mm DOE style uppers together.
To me, the teltail sign is the muzzle of the DOE barrel. If you look closely at the video, you will notice that the chrome lining flairs slightly at the muzzle. A cut Colt 9mm barrel will not have that flair of the chrome lining at the muzzle. I appreciate that Tom didn't make his parts exact copies of original DOE parts. The hand guards are great copies but are dark gray instead of black.
Back in the day when Garrison Manufacturing was making clone DOE uppers, I sent them a Colt 16" 9mm upper and a set of M231 hand guards. They cut the barrel and installed their reproduction hand guard cap and front sight assembly. The barrel is the biggest tell. I don't care. At the time, Colt was the only sorce for chrome lined 9mm barrel. It is not, nor will it be a DOE upper. But it is fun to shoot and I am not beating on an original Colt. YMMV.
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I just got mine too!
😮 Ian from ForgottenWeapons needs one of these.
I thought that he did a video on the Colt R0633 at some point. However, I looked for it and all I could find was his Shot Show preview of the upcoming H&R offering.
I dont even own an AR but this upper looks great! Gotta love a good reproduction, a 9mm AR sounds pretty nice too compared to an expensive MP5
It is definitely a more reasonably priced option than a Colt collector piece.
The shop is a few minutes from me. I’d love to have one!
It would be cool to pair it with a lower with a full sized fixed stock.
somebody was hungry in the beggining haha.
Good video man.
You may have heard my climate control system shutting down. Lol.
The REAL DOE-TSD upper receiver was .223. It was called the "bag gun". The foregrip was only big enough to wrap 3 fingers around.
I had not heard of that. It would be interesting to see. Thanks for commenting.
You sound like Hank Hill and I love it 😃
Lol...courtesy of a broken nose and failed sinus surgery. If only I was making as much money as the person who provides the voice of Hank Hil. Lol. Thanks for stopping by.
I picked up an original Colt M635 SMG upper a few years back for stupid cheap at a Gun Show. I capitalized on the fact that the seller really didn’t know what he had in his hands.
The M633 DOE upper is a rarer piece that commands a much higher price.
The handguards are also used on the M231 Port Firing Weapon, which was part of the original M2 Bradley IFV used by the US Army during the First Gulf War.
I will have to research the M633. I am not familiar with it at all. Thanks for sharing that information.
DOE Couriers have LOTS of cool sh*t.
I can only imagine what they have in their armories.
Proudly made in Washington...but can't be purchased in Washington!
The restriction politics is just crazy isn't it?
Looks like it should come in the 40milliwatt range
It’s a Sten Gun in AR Clothing
Lol the stomache noise at the start. I thought that was mine and had to rewind.
It is probably my A/C unit shutting down. Definitely not my stomach...lol
Took me 11 months to get one keep it
The fact the DOE has sub machine guns says a lot.
It's because of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. DOE Security Police are responsible for the protection of Category I Special Nuclear Materials. They are a QRF to DOE nuclear facilities, and to reacquire stolen nuclear materials.
If you have ever seen a nuclear materials truck driving down the road with it's escort of armored vehicles; those are the guys protecting it. They are very highly funded and very highly trained; and for good reason.
@@gp556by45 Nothing the military can’t handle.. Just an excuse for having a gigantic armed federal government.
Nothing the military can’t handle. Just an excuse for having a gigantic massive federal government.
How does the charging handle grip that carrier key with that slope on the front of the key? I’d think the front of the key would be at a 90* angle? Thanks.
I noticed that too when I was doing the video. I haven't had time to look at it in detail yet. I will let you know what I figure out.
I've got a Colt RO639, which is like a 633 but longer barrel. I double checked it to see and the carrier key has a small flat lip on the front that is tall enough to let the charging handle grip it.
@@bitfreakazoid thanks man, I appreciate it. I guess it makes sense then being at that angle so it cant bite into the aluminum channel it rides in.
that is truly amazing. wow ! more more !!! i cant wait for the next video!!!!! Cheers from the Maine Woods!! i have never seen this before! they dont have a web site, but i saw the contact info- google was my friend! how accurate u think that is?? maybe 15 meters? further?..
Ah… the old Department of Education uppers. I remember the ads from Shotgun News and Gunlist when they got dropped on the market.
Energy, not education. Nuclear plant defense and the like.
Looks very cool. Too bad they don't have a website or active social media.
Liemohn Manufacturing has a page on Facebook. His email is: machineguntom4@yahoo.com
Subscribed already. Still nudging the algorithm some. L8r
Thanks for your support.
They have our credit card so they do what they want. Lol
I'm here brother!
yikes $900 is still pretty steep but man its cool
The design of the R0633 is definitely unique. It was really "out of the box" thinking 30 years ago.
I have been collecting/building parts for one of these. I just need the barrel. Hopefully I can get hold of them. Is the contact listed on that card a good address for them?
Yes
Velocity at 875fps. What will that get u other than needing.
I bought an original YEARS ago that I dont want to shoot. Does Tom still make these? I can't find much about them on on google.
He does. My example was made this year.
Here's a mandatory safety video on how to hold your DOE upper and how NOT to do that. czcams.com/video/-ijr4mKBDmc/video.html
What about the the buffer and spring? Does it take standard AR parts? Or something different?
And can you get it with a threaded barrel?
The upper receiver can be used with standard 9mm AR lower receivers. The 9mm buffers/action springs are different from 5.56mm AR's.
I forget to answer that I do believe they have an option for a threaded barrel.
Blowback modified AR. She's a beauty!
Once you've seen a Bubba'd AR, you start to realize why modified tuner cars sell for less at auction than stock
I’m lost 😞 😅😂
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I would love to do an SBR of a Port firing device if someone would make an upper for it!
Cool, but the barrel needs to be threaded for a can.
That is an available option.
So why does the dept. Of energy need weapons?
To arm up the fighting age males that are flooding the border.
They move our nukes around the country.
Are you American? If so out of all government departments you really should be aware that they make it very clear they will be the most likely to kill you for getting in their road. They are responsible for security at nuclear power plants and transport of nuclear materials and nuclear weapons.
my question exactly
Why do the people with the nuclear materials, power planets and nuclear bombs need weapons? Dunno, can't find imagine they've anything needing protecting.
Very cool, do you manufacture rifles?
I do not. I am just a collector.
I’ve been trying to get a hold of Tom for a few days trying to purchase one of these items. No return emails or phone calls. ?????
Sorry a bit overwhelmed. Have I responded yet? If not check your spam folder for an e-mail.
Thank you very much. Just got your email.
The website doesn’t exist.
You are correct. Tom does not have a website. He has a Facebook page and you can email/call him.
Of course the Dept of Energy needs a sub machine gun, nothing to see here folks…
They were at one time responsible for security during the transportation of nuclear materials to and from reactors. If memory serves.
do you think nuclear facilities and radioactive transports should have no one there to guard them?
I want one
Can a WA resident just south of Kent buy one of these?
Contact them and ask. I am in Missouri and am not familiar with Washington laws.
It depends. I can't sell you spare parts. However, if you already have an AR15 and are registering it as an SBR, you could potentially bring your newly made SBR to me ( along with the F1) and I would then be allowed to do a one for one swap for your upper. It's sticky, but that is about the only way that can happen now days.
Have any good friends that live in a free state?
@@jamesmadison9244 For what it's worth, I can't knowingly support this.
The only good thing about the US crashing one day is that we'll likely be able to own a machinegun that doesn't cost 30K. I miss the title 2's! Can't afford them and can't own them now I live in Commy NY.
It's crazy to see how much values have increased in the last 10 years or so.
Lol the ch is coms will take over and nobody will have any boom booms
That’s ma name, don’t wear it out
I am having a hell of a time finding a website online, can anyone point me in the right direction? TYIA
Tom has been responding to people in here.
Listening to you talk is like watching paint dry!
Lol..Thanks! As miserable as you may have been, I appreciate you stopping by.
Anyone able to find their website?
Tom does not have a website. He has a page on Facebook and you can email or call him.
How much is it?
CZcams's content creator rules don't allow us to discuss purchasing. Contact Liemohn and productions and Tom would be happy to discuss. The cost varies depending on what features that you want.
How much are these?
Depends on features that you want. Contact Tom to discuss available features and cost.
I live the next town over, but never knew about it. Unfortunately I can’t purchase one anymore in commie occupied WA State!
Exactly why in the hell does the DOE need 9 mm submachine guns?
Was used for nuclear security in the 1980's.
@@rtz549 Transporting nuclear materials and securing nuclear facilities. A very good reason for teh DOE to maintain armed security. Which they do this very day, just with different weapons now.
Seems weird that every alphabet agency needs their own armed forces.
shhhhhhh
@@jluvs2ride
@@jluvs2ride LOL, don't diss my babies, DOE is a family tradition over here! Also shot a DOE F/A at Knob Creek, then bought spare uppers! They went fast. Originally as DOE and DEA where changing over to the MP5, there was a hope they could go full transferable, but ATF ruled DOE was a "LE" so complete examples can only go to other LEs and parts and uppers could be sold as parts w/o restriction!
Anybody else hear the stomach growl? 😅
Lol...was probably my air conditioning shutting down. Wasn't my stomach. 🤣
@@thecoltar15resource lol it sounded like someone was hungry 😂
Awesome video btw, wasn't aware of this AR/M4 variant 🤘
15 minutes and i still have no idea why its called the department of energy.
The actual model designation is R0633. It got the Department Of Energy (DOE) nickname because they were designed for security teams that worked for the Department Of Energy and provided security for nuclear related material.
@@thecoltar15resource thank you for explaining it. That was cool of you. My curiosity got the best of me and I Google it last night lmao.
Nothing kills a great video like lipsmacking...
Lol...unique observation. Will work on that.
All these comments and I haven't seen one that takes issue with the DOE having these, or ANY firearms. Just like most administrative branches of government (Education/IRS/BLM/etc), there is no need for them to have any firearms.
How would you like nuclear materials guarded and by whom?
Price?
You will have to contact Liemohn Manufacturing.
These are trash, mine exploded on the first magazine, nearly killed me
What the fuck does the department of energy need weaponry for? To use against we the people? Because that’s the Sam reason for the weaponization of the IRS
To guard nuclear facilities.
They have high speed tactical teams 24/7 at nuke facilities..
Armed security to gaurd nuclear materials and weapons seems a pretty prudent measure to me. There are bad people in this world who want to steal or sabatage that kind of thing.
you wouldn't do anything even if the government decided to roll your shit in boomer
Because the DOE deals with nuclear facilities along with many more important and critical infrastructure areas around the country
Stranger Things 9mm AR.
A script would tremendously help this channel. The flow is painful. A script would keep things moving at a good pace. Great info just presented disorganized and awkwardly with lots of hesitant pauses.
I appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately, between career and family, I am not left with time to script, rehearse, edit, etc.
My reality leaves me the choice of dragging the process out in detail and only doing a handful of videos a year, or I can wing it to the best of my ability which, understandably can cost me viewers. My goal has never been to grow/accumulate viewers. My only goal has been to make information and content available to fellow Colt fans.
With all of that said, I certainly do want to improve as I am able. But, first and foremost, I want to make information available. Undoubtedly, as I learn more, 'improve' and get more time available, I will probably go back and redo the really bad videos.
Thanks for taking time out of your day, stopping by and providing good feedback.