Wondering what you'll need to do to convert your boom-boom stick to use our new STizon helical mags? Wonder no further. Check it out here: stincusa.com/product/pre-orde...
It's not a good platform for a handgun cartridge. I get the concept of wanting a carbine. They just don't make carbines anymore. Just get a M4 clone if you want a carbine. This is a waste of money. Buy a purpose-built platform like a Beretta Cx4 if you want a pistol caliber carbine for some insane reason. It's cheaper just to shoot 7.62x39 if you want an AK
i think there was a weird beretta with a helical mag twenty years ago or so. it was very spaceship looking and was reportedly not very reliable. but this thing definitely looks good.
@@gypsyhydra6801 really depends on quality of ammo and how fast you fire it. I personally just wouldn’t trust it unless you put a fostech echo binary in it. It has a built in OOB safety. Thats solves any issue completely, bit its pricey
Not American. Will likely never get my hands on something like this. Only own a Bizon for airsoft but damn this is mechanically interesting and just a neat product.
@@LilC1deep If he shows up to the Mexico-US border, Biden will personally give him a $2000 moneycard, free transportation to any major city, and free housing provided to them. Just for being illegal and hopefully illegally vote for Biden next election. The really sad part is I'm not even exaggerating...
when the V2 comes around id like to see mlok slots on the 12, 3, and 9 positions for more mounting possibilities. With tapering to meet the retaining plate for a better fit and look!
Very very cool! I may have to add another 9mm ak variant to the collection. I have a very early Pak9 from when they were first being imported years ago and nobody was making any other 9mm ak variants. I worked retail at the time and I distinctly remember all of my coworkers and friends making fun of my Pak9 until we went to the range. "It's heavy. It's ugly. It doesn't use curved magazines." blahblahblah. Not a few years later, PSA, CenturyArms, and KUSA all jumped on the bandwagon and listened to the market. I'm thankful they did, because now we have cool ideas like this coming out of the woodwork. Bizons are just cool looking at that is very hard to debate. Even people that don't like aks or non-box style magazines have to show some respect.
Great looking fun wall hanger for me. It looks cool but could never see myself using but I will definitely be anticipating myself getting one at some point.
@@jstanley806 thank god. I preordered the kit just now, I was afraid about having to drill out rivets but now that I know it's just unscrewing stuff I'm comfortable doing that lol
I doubt it. You can get +15 extensions for regular magazines and it's not as complicated or as expensive. I only seeing less educated people ordering these things.
@user-bc4uh9yn1w ya basically. Stupid people waste money on stupid stuff. Almost bet people buying something like this have no savings, retirement account or investments in anything. So yes, you can base intelligence off of how people choose to spend their money.
@@weezem Ppl ordering this aren't ordering them for practical reasons 7 -9 times out 10 . They are doing for a neat near clone of something that will never ever come to this country
This would be way cooler if the handguard came with picatiny rails to mount optics and lights this would be an awesome home defense gun with the 50 round capacity that goes with it.
This looks amazing, probably the easiest (and closest) way to get a Bizon. I had one quick question, though: There looks like there's a pretty sizeable gap between the KP receiver and the handguard. Will that be present on the final version?
There has to be a better solution to securing that forend lever than a partially removed set screw. It's gonna back out. That said, I still want one of these kits.
I assume since there is no tension on the mag unless its in the gun that you can leave it loaded as long as you want with out worrying about wearing any of the springs out prematurely
What about the PSA AK-V with the MOE front end? In the past to add a MOE front part you were to cut off that handguard retainer. You may want to look into that, because now your handguard will not tightly lock together.
Can you guys do an in depth conversion on a kp9? I’m confused as to where the mag release will sit once the plastic mag well is removed. The mag release is currently riveted to the plastic mag well from factory
Im kinda glad i didnt scrap my nak9. All the reciever to barrel centerlines the same datums between all 3 platforms? I have two of the 3. Considered 16" akv. Single stamp integral boi.
Been lusting over the Bison since Peter G. Kokalis wrote about it in Soldier of Fortune magazine. Pretty sure the Russians made a version in 9mm Mak also.
If you hold the bolt to the rear, then there is no need to relieve tension on the spring, which would keep the rounds in place. If you hold the bolt to the rear and spring tension is releases you can possibly lose rounds depending on how you orient the firearm.
I had dismissed the AK-9 variants and didn't think I wanted one up until this very moment.
Ditto!
Just saw my next firearm purchase!
@@RUBIZENnak 9 is 450$ almost as much as the mag lmao. I still ordered both 🤷♂️🤣
SAME!
It's not a good platform for a handgun cartridge. I get the concept of wanting a carbine. They just don't make carbines anymore. Just get a M4 clone if you want a carbine. This is a waste of money. Buy a purpose-built platform like a Beretta Cx4 if you want a pistol caliber carbine for some insane reason. It's cheaper just to shoot 7.62x39 if you want an AK
Maybe I do want a KP9
My thoughts
Couldn't have said it better lol
Good luck finding them since kalashnikov USA is MIA
Too late 😣
You really don't. KUSA's quality has been slipping back and forth. Hella not worth anymore. Get the AKV. : /
I have never heard of you guys prior to this, but holy shit this is one of the coolest things I have ever seen
i think there was a weird beretta with a helical mag twenty years ago or so. it was very spaceship looking and was reportedly not very reliable. but this thing definitely looks good.
It was the Callico
The Bizon was my favorite firearm in the game Siphonfilter
And it also has a 66 round helical mag... Surely they didn't... Did they?🤔
@@Derpderpnik I hope
hell yeah! Childhood memories
That's a blast from the past
@@DerpderpnikI want to say the .380 acp versions were 65
Just preordered the kit and a spare mag. Cannot wait for this to come in. I’ve been waiting for someone to do this for years
Where do you order it from?
Found it never mind
What’s the website? Trying to find it myself lol
Thanks for being a beta tester.
You live long enough to buy the bad guy!
You might wanna pitch this to Palmetto State Armory. They might be interested in making a pp19 bison copy
Stuff and things out here making my dreams come true
Stuff and thangs can be dreamy!
*Heavy Slavic breathing* ♥️
I literally heard “Let’s get it on” by Marvin Gaye start playing in my head the moment I saw that thumbnail
Best comment! You win the coveted P.O.B.! (Pat on the back)
@@jonathank7394 lol
I now have to get TWO AKVs to have both a PP-19 build and a Bizon build 😂
they are technically both pp19 but one is the vityaz and one is the bizon
When an AK is just too reliable and not barrel heavy enough for you, the Calico dumpster fire conversion is the only way to go.
Lol
Looks like a great wrist/ forearm exercise. And when you're done, you get the pew-pew! A reward!
so fucking cool, the bizon is such a weird gun
I don't own a 9mm ak but this makes me want one
Your channel is the same name as a small video series I used to have up where I'd just ramble. Makes me nostalgic
Awesome! I've always wanted a bizon, this is the next best thing.
Ordered and I do love your idea of leaving it loaded
I'm glad I got a psa akv now
Im so afraid of the Out of battery detonation issue. I want one too, but the akv needs that issue fixed
No problems with mine.
@Exandria How common is it? Ik PSA has issues but I also know that PSA has fixed most of the issues they have (or so they say I don't own one) .
@@gypsyhydra6801 really depends on quality of ammo and how fast you fire it.
I personally just wouldn’t trust it unless you put a fostech echo binary in it. It has a built in OOB safety.
Thats solves any issue completely, bit its pricey
I had 300 or 400 rounds, through it, i think i don't remember and I didn't have any problems for me
You are changing the game and I love it
Not American. Will likely never get my hands on something like this. Only own a Bizon for airsoft but damn this is mechanically interesting and just a neat product.
Move to the US buddy. No better place in the world to live if your a gun enthusiast.
You gonna cover his expenses? Lmao
@@LilC1deep If he shows up to the Mexico-US border, Biden will personally give him a $2000 moneycard, free transportation to any major city, and free housing provided to them. Just for being illegal and hopefully illegally vote for Biden next election. The really sad part is I'm not even exaggerating...
Honestly he has a good chance of getting here... it's easier than you think....I live in Texas 🤣🤣
You mad man! Someone finally did it!
when the V2 comes around id like to see mlok slots on the 12, 3, and 9 positions for more mounting possibilities. With tapering to meet the retaining plate for a better fit and look!
I'd like to see small but soft silicone protrusions you can fiddle and play with on the front end, to make it more sexey.
Fantastic job. I hope the final can be as close to the original as possible. Hopefully more reliable as well
IM SO EXCITED. I HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT FOR THIS FOR YEARS. GIMME
Very very cool! I may have to add another 9mm ak variant to the collection. I have a very early Pak9 from when they were first being imported years ago and nobody was making any other 9mm ak variants. I worked retail at the time and I distinctly remember all of my coworkers and friends making fun of my Pak9 until we went to the range. "It's heavy. It's ugly. It doesn't use curved magazines." blahblahblah.
Not a few years later, PSA, CenturyArms, and KUSA all jumped on the bandwagon and listened to the market. I'm thankful they did, because now we have cool ideas like this coming out of the woodwork. Bizons are just cool looking at that is very hard to debate. Even people that don't like aks or non-box style magazines have to show some respect.
This... changes everything!
Great looking fun wall hanger for me. It looks cool but could never see myself using but I will definitely be anticipating myself getting one at some point.
Weird flex, but ok.
I don’t even have a 9mm ak but I just bought your conversion. Lol looks like I’ve got another project
I just pulled my AKV apart to get it ready. My magwell was also held in by 2 screws under the barrel at the front of the receiver. So 3 screws total.
i was wondering the same thing. thank you
did you have to remove any rivets?
@@REBMX nope, just the 3 screws.
@@jstanley806 thank god. I preordered the kit just now, I was afraid about having to drill out rivets but now that I know it's just unscrewing stuff I'm comfortable doing that lol
@@REBMX to be fair my KR-9 is riveted and just inserting a mag caused a rivet to come apart so I’m not too worried about that one.
Didn't those Calico guns have a similar magazine idea? It really makes the gun look different, I like it.
It's a calico ak. . . Eh . Aka is fine.
@@ryderczarnecki-es2go is Calako now.
Oh I ordered mine tonight
will you make handguard versions with m-lok added? might not be clone correct but it'd add some functionality. Great Job btw
Its crazy i was just wondering a few days ago if they ever made a civilian version of the bizon but couldn’t find one. Guess i am buying a Kp9
Hey will!! Haven’t seen you since LSS!! I could really go for this!!
Someone finally did it!!! I applaud you all. This is outstanding!
This is cool as hell
This is gonna make millions 😍
I doubt it. You can get +15 extensions for regular magazines and it's not as complicated or as expensive. I only seeing less educated people ordering these things.
@user-bc4uh9yn1w I guess I should order one then due to autocorrect error and not proof reading. The point still stands.
@user-bc4uh9yn1w Yes, stupid people waste money on stupid things. You can look around and see for yourself.
@user-bc4uh9yn1w ya basically. Stupid people waste money on stupid stuff. Almost bet people buying something like this have no savings, retirement account or investments in anything. So yes, you can base intelligence off of how people choose to spend their money.
@@weezem Ppl ordering this aren't ordering them for practical reasons 7 -9 times out 10 . They are doing for a neat near clone of something that will never ever come to this country
This is awesome
This would be way cooler if the handguard came with picatiny rails to mount optics and lights this would be an awesome home defense gun with the 50 round capacity that goes with it.
I hope in the future this would have a speed loader available for this magazine
I hope you guys expand to other ak, even if it’s 20 round. 7.62x39, heck bizon a Saiga 12!
Awesome!
I have to buy a kp9 soon now that I've found out about this. Holy crap is that beautiful.
Your product looks much better made than the ak itself.
Very nice.
I don’t own a 9mm Ak but I will soon. Always wanted a Bizon.
You have completed my dreams
This is so, so damn cool.
Great idea fellers
Informative video thank you
Very cool! I want!
You literally just made PSA more money... and me poorerer
At first I thought this said "poorever," which is a pretty good description of where PSAs deals land you, lol.
@stevep7346 right!?!?! Feel like Fry... "take my money"
This makes me want another akv just for this
That's pretty cool
that's a vibe
I think I need this.
Well this is awesome.
WHAT!? Amazing.
I would like to see it running.
How good does it feed?
How durable is the mag?
This looks amazing, probably the easiest (and closest) way to get a Bizon. I had one quick question, though:
There looks like there's a pretty sizeable gap between the KP receiver and the handguard. Will that be present on the final version?
If you guys make the magazine more closely resemble the original that would be awesome.
There has to be a better solution to securing that forend lever than a partially removed set screw. It's gonna back out.
That said, I still want one of these kits.
Heard about you guys first on PSR for the she shocker and was ok that's cool but this is omg I want it now. Gimme gimme!!!
Just posted this on Reddit haha set a wild fire 🔥, I need one to try out for the boys !
Closer to the Calico than I thought.
Wtf this is so cool!
I assume since there is no tension on the mag unless its in the gun that you can leave it loaded as long as you want with out worrying about wearing any of the springs out prematurely
Sick!!!!!!!
I have a question, if you use the draco 9s kit will it still be able to use the Scorpion mags?
The vibe is real@
What about the PSA AK-V with the MOE front end? In the past to add a MOE front part you were to cut off that handguard retainer.
You may want to look into that, because now your handguard will not tightly lock together.
That's awesome. I want one for my akv9.
Are you going to show a test fire video?
I'm very interested in this kit for a akv what all does it come with ?
do you need to drill out anything on the ak-v for installation?
Do you sell the pins for the KP9 for the mag release?
dang, i had to.... pre ordered so fast
If you push the leaver down you could load one round at a time???
I'd love something like this for the ruger pc9 :) or any AR9 chassis
Does the handguard need to be installed for that magazine to work?
Any plans on making a conversion kit for Other caliber AK,s like the PSA Krinkov ????
You guys gonna sell mags individually? I dont see them on the site
Never heard of this before and never really wanted a 9mm AK before. I do now.
Question, would this work with a WASR-M also?
soooooo rad
Cool
I need to buy a Nak 9 now.
Calico meets ak! 😮
Can you guys do an in depth conversion on a kp9?
I’m confused as to where the mag release will sit once the plastic mag well is removed. The mag release is currently riveted to the plastic mag well from factory
You make America great again
Im kinda glad i didnt scrap my nak9.
All the reciever to barrel centerlines the same datums between all 3 platforms? I have two of the 3. Considered 16" akv. Single stamp integral boi.
Have you guys ever ran one of these on a post sample?
Can you still use standard box mag after converting?
just bought a draco s and now I need another, damn man lmao
Now create a 3D printed sleeve to put over the mouth so we can stack ammo and load quicker
I have a pak 9, which is a shorter nak 9. Any chance you would make a kit for that?
Been lusting over the Bison since Peter G. Kokalis wrote about it in Soldier of Fortune magazine. Pretty sure the Russians made a version in 9mm Mak also.
Sooooo when do you make one for a full size AKM? Would it be ungodly heavy? Yes. However its cool
I know it is stupid, but part of me really wants you to make a bullpup kit that works with these mags. It would be ridiculously cool.
The trigger would have to be right under the muzzle if they did that
@@obsmechanic4940 Where there is a will there is a way.
@@obsmechanic4940orit could be extra low and you sorta roll the mags in lol
if you hold the bolt to the rear do the rounds come pouring out?
If you hold the bolt to the rear, then there is no need to relieve tension on the spring, which would keep the rounds in place. If you hold the bolt to the rear and spring tension is releases you can possibly lose rounds depending on how you orient the firearm.
Can't get the kit in Illinois right now but how much is the kit?
New updated version of the Callico. Remake of an older idea.
I'd like more info on that front grip on that 3rd up at on tje left