How Texas Motor Speedway Nearly Failed

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • In 2024, Texas Motor Speedway is one of the most hated tracks on NASCAR’s schedule, due to poor racing quality. This isn’t a new issue for the track, as Texas was once the most hated track in NASCAR due to a completely different issue - safety. Several reconfigurations and repaves were attempted in the first few years of racing in desperation to retain NASCAR and Indycar races. Several tragic accidents raised concern for drivers, teams, and series executives alike - eventually resulting in CART refusing to take the series to Texas. In this video, we will discuss the accidents and events that led to Texas Motor Speedway’s business and PR nightmare, and how they overcame these challenges.
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  • @alextriplett9414
    @alextriplett9414 Před 2 měsíci +124

    “Nearly Failed” considering this track killed North Wilkesboro, only for North Wilkesboro to rise back from the dead and replace one of Texas race dates, I think it’s safe to Say Texas Motor Speedway is a massive failure racing wise. Good video on acknowledging the early safety issues with Texas tho.

    • @crystaljon
      @crystaljon Před 2 měsíci +15

      Texas had several great races before 2017. Let's not pretend those never happened.

    • @alextriplett9414
      @alextriplett9414 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@crystaljon I not saying it wasn’t a success at all, but overall In the long run Texas became a failure.

    • @thicccheese4007
      @thicccheese4007 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@crystaljonKentucky also had great races but just like Texas we can’t let the few good races overshadow the majority of horrible races and piss poor attendance.

    • @Brennandodsonnc
      @Brennandodsonnc Před 2 měsíci +2

      Texas is still on the schedule though.

    • @CJODell12
      @CJODell12 Před 2 měsíci

      @@BrennandodsonncBut the good news is we won’t have to suffer another Texas race until next season.

  • @johnvandeventer8668
    @johnvandeventer8668 Před 2 měsíci +53

    CART canceling the 2001 Firestone Firehawk 600 was absolutely the right decision. Parker Johnstone said that the horizontal load was not the big problem as drivers were used to big horizontal loads in the past. The main problem was the vertical load according to Parker

    • @TheeGlocktopus
      @TheeGlocktopus Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah. Horizontal loads fail on exit. Vertical loads fail on entry.

  • @noahcoleman5556
    @noahcoleman5556 Před 2 měsíci +28

    RIP Eddie Gossage.

  • @MuscleFanboy
    @MuscleFanboy Před měsícem +4

    in the 2003 indycar season, the most brutal catchfence happened with Kenny Brack. He suffered a 214G wreck

    • @MuscleFanboy
      @MuscleFanboy Před měsícem +3

      It was similar to Davey Hamilton's catchfence wreck

    • @MuscleFanboy
      @MuscleFanboy Před měsícem +3

      Adrian Fernandez's onboard says how fast they go. For example, Dario Franchitti was going over 240mph

  • @Robloxity_News
    @Robloxity_News Před 2 měsíci +12

    They should have kept Texas World instead of building this track.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 Před měsícem +3

      SMI should have bought it instead and refurbished it.

  • @JayStephens8
    @JayStephens8 Před 2 měsíci +13

    This track remains while auto club was torn down

    • @FlashoftheBlades
      @FlashoftheBlades Před 2 měsíci +5

      And Texas World Speedway. That was a far better track in terms of its racing product, but the amenities were the exact opposite.

  • @TheTotallyRealXiJinping
    @TheTotallyRealXiJinping Před 2 měsíci +10

    It honestly sucks because having gone to the 2002-2008 races this track holds an amazing spot in my heart. But having to bear witness live to the 2022 All-Star race absolutely hurt my soul. At least this years triple-header was awesome

  • @sennadesillva
    @sennadesillva Před 2 měsíci +12

    How did you leave out Kenny Brack's crash in the 2003 IRL race?! Not only is it the highest G force ever survived by a human being, but he was literally flown to the hospital with bags of bone fragments labeled "left foot" and "right foot".

    • @Ultimate23Dragon
      @Ultimate23Dragon Před 2 měsíci +5

      That wasn't the fault of the track itself.

    • @FlashoftheBlades
      @FlashoftheBlades Před 15 dny

      @@Ultimate23Dragon Exactly. Now, if we’re talking about Tony Roper’s fatal accident there in 2000, that was partially down to the design of the track and its double-kink main straight.

  • @TomLehockySVK
    @TomLehockySVK Před 2 měsíci +6

    Rest in peace Tony Roper. Shame on Nascar for not making the HANS device mandatory after J.D. McDuffie died .

    • @daniele.644
      @daniele.644 Před 2 měsíci

      Was the HANS even a thing back then?

    • @TomLehockySVK
      @TomLehockySVK Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@daniele.644 Yes ! First prototype was made in 1985, used in crash tests in 1989, and started being sold in 1990, so even before the death of J.D. it could have already been used .

  • @KR1736
    @KR1736 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Texas Motor Speedway is a perfect example of everything that sent NASCAR in the wrong direction

  • @joshmeister4449
    @joshmeister4449 Před 2 měsíci +6

    NGL I love TMS, I watched it get built as a kid and saw my first ever Nascar race there and became a Mark Martin Fan.

  • @seannicol7309
    @seannicol7309 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The last two indycar races there have been FANTASTIC

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Such a shame IndyCar left there at the wrong possible time.

  • @user-do4gj2yb6y
    @user-do4gj2yb6y Před 2 měsíci +5

    Was just there for cup race, place is in desperate need of repairs.

  • @newsnowtammylynnlynn484
    @newsnowtammylynnlynn484 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Dude no one like the fact that Texas motor speedway because it took out north wilkesboro end of statement I am glad that North wilkesboro back hosting races again

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Except that the past two years, the racing at Texas has been good while North Wilkesboro can't produce good racing there (which is not the track's fault), to be fair.

  • @danielfoster3642
    @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Texas Motor Speedway has had an interesting history to say the least.

  • @crouchb15
    @crouchb15 Před 2 měsíci +11

    "nearly"

  • @MikeKalasnik
    @MikeKalasnik Před 2 měsíci +3

    To be fair, some of these accidents had nothing to do with the tracks configuration or layout.
    But it did take them several seasons to get the track right. I believe by 99, drivers said it was much better. However, what I don't understand, is when they redid the track several years ago, they did something totally different and it didnt work, yet they didnt learn from their original mistakes in the late 90s. However you didn't even bother to cover that in this video.

  • @jacasoasheland6815
    @jacasoasheland6815 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Kenny Brack

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia Před 2 měsíci +10

    Only in Texas would they shut down a highway just for event parking.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 2 měsíci +16

    It would be great if Texas reconfigured the mile and a half back to the 1999-2016 layout again.
    Also does anybody remember the news that they would repave or reconfigure this track back in 2022?
    There was a rumor that back in March, there was an idea that this track might be turned into a short track.
    Do not quote me, I’ve been going by what I heard

    • @evannuh-koo-la4054
      @evannuh-koo-la4054 Před 2 měsíci +3

      More accurately, May of 1998 to 2017. the IRL and Truck series both did races at the track in 1998 after they reprofiled the turns

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Honestly, why do we need another reconfiguration to the track?

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@danielfoster3642 because this current configuration is terrible and the banking is uneven.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci

      @@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Uneven banking = great racing. Also, the current configuration is fine as it is right now. Cry all you want about Texas being bad, but start paying attention to the facts, clown. 🤡🤡🤡

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@danielfoster3642 it’s not that deep. If you like the track, fine. But at least I’m rooting for Texas to be fixed for the better instead of joining the “Texas should be demolished” bandwagon.
      Just because not everyone likes the current layout (like the fans and drivers and teams) doesn’t mean you gotta put other people down.
      Also if you’re in a debate and you insult people, you lost the debate. Nice one. Maybe actually be mature about an adult about this instead of being some immature manchild that can’t handle different opinions.
      But then again, you’re a NASCAR fan. So I’m not surprised one bit. Grow up, man. Have a good day🏁

  • @iornlazer04
    @iornlazer04 Před 2 měsíci +3

    And the one time INDYCAR had a good race here (2023), they leave the year right after. My home track, not happy INDYCAR left.

  • @austinhrkid1
    @austinhrkid1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The track killed north Wilksboro for years the rscing had sucked for a long time and it use to be a crash fest track which I liked 6 to 10 yellows per race

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules Před 2 měsíci +3

    This track has been a debacle since the day it was built

  • @bradleydennis1263
    @bradleydennis1263 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I've been to 3 races at TMS. I was there this year. I don't see what the issue is. That place friggin rocks to me

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +3

      In the early years, there have been so many scary crashes there. Lately, it's been the pavement in Turns 1 and 2, which, to be fair, is wearing out nicely right now.

    • @TyCathey
      @TyCathey Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@danielfoster3642 I agree. But turns 3 and 4 got some more wearing to do. because coming up off turn 4 the cars still can get real loose.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TyCathey Fair enough.

  • @nascarfan9837
    @nascarfan9837 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was there at the Truck race Tony Roper lost his life and it happened right in front of me of where I was sitting

  • @MarlboroGMGoodwrench
    @MarlboroGMGoodwrench Před 2 měsíci +8

    Can you please make a video about Clifford Allison‚ nobody ever talk about him.

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah there is not much about him. Such a shame the Allison’s lost both of their sons. I could not imagine

    • @MarlboroGMGoodwrench
      @MarlboroGMGoodwrench Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@alanluscombe8a553 they have the worst luck ever :(

    • @user-ww8hi1lf5y
      @user-ww8hi1lf5y Před 2 měsíci +1

      Do you have any photos of his tragic accident?

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +1

      A video on Clifford Allison? Yes.

    • @MarlboroGMGoodwrench
      @MarlboroGMGoodwrench Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-ww8hi1lf5y no‚ but if you search in internet you are gonna find the newspaper with Clifford's death crash

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks Před 2 měsíci +5

    Nearly failed? Ever since 2017 it has failed.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It failed from 2017 to 2021, but the track has been good since the Next Gen car debuted in 2022. People don't get the full scope on why it failed. At the same time Texas was being repaved, NASCAR was in the middle of decreasing horsepower and increasing downforce, which honestly was the main reason why Texas failed, as did other 1.5 mile races like the Coca Cola 600. I think if NASCAR never went the low horsepower high downforce path, the racing at Texas probably would have become great hits during that time. Not classics by any means, but solid races.

  • @FlashoftheBlades
    @FlashoftheBlades Před 15 dny

    It also wasn’t just NASCAR and Indycar that had big crashes there. In the 2001 American Le Mans Series season opener, Corvette Racing’s Kelly Collins had a tire blow going through Turn 4 of the oval and crashed heavily. The impact was so hard, it ripped the windshield out of its frame.

  • @JB0143RP
    @JB0143RP Před 2 měsíci +4

    They should have stayed at Texas World.

    • @crystaljon
      @crystaljon Před 2 měsíci +4

      TWS was doomed to flop. Inconvenient location, severe lack of amenities, and multiple changes in ownership. Pretty sure there were also major maintenance issues.

    • @JB0143RP
      @JB0143RP Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@crystaljon they get close to 100k at Kyle field multiple times per year. I assume with better ownership the location wouldn't have been that problematic. Darlington, Rockingham, Martinsville, North Wilkes aren't exactly ideal locations either

  • @flareog134
    @flareog134 Před 2 měsíci +2

    tony roper didn't die of a basilar skull fracture, his neck broke and restricted blood flow to his brain

  • @lets-go-larson5
    @lets-go-larson5 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is a great video on something I've never new about my homestate track. However, I need to get this off my chest about the track.
    Now I get the reason that Texas is hated as it replaced NWB and Rockingham, but in my opinion, this track is overhated. The track nowadays can produce an at the very least a half decent show with the current car and after it was bumped down to one date after 2022, it has had good attendance even with a move to early in the season, so that shows that people care about the track. The "Texas should be demolished" quote is honestly too harsh. Like, do you guys want to demolish a track for the sole reason of it does not have good racing? That's probably the most petty excuse anyone could give about removing the track from the calander. We already have a problem with tracks being demolished thanks to other reasons, and we want this track to be demolished simply because of that reason alone? I like the NASCAR community, but my god, these guys can overreact to a lot of things.

    • @mesc681
      @mesc681 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The race at texas this year wasnt awful but imo that was the only cup race there since the repave in 2017 that wasnt terrible

    • @nick_ager
      @nick_ager Před 2 měsíci +1

      as a new fan i thought that the texas race this year was really good and i do not understand all of the texas hate. also a fun and challenging track to run on iracing. i lowkey like texas

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 2 měsíci +3

      I just want SMI to fix Turn 1-2 the way it was in Texas. That’s all I want

  • @julymiller7456
    @julymiller7456 Před 2 měsíci +1

    WKRC -12 My local CBS affiliate in Cincinnati! Nice!

  • @russellcurrie6099
    @russellcurrie6099 Před 2 měsíci

    Didn't they have an Enduro or Street Stock race on the dirt before it was paved?

  • @polycube868
    @polycube868 Před měsícem

    Did Texas Motorspeedway have a roval back then? Couldn't they have ran that layout so at least the fans got to see a race?

  • @dennisg.3364
    @dennisg.3364 Před 2 měsíci

    RIP Gossage

  • @iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929

    How is this video the way I found out that Eddie Gossage passed?

  • @danielblaise156
    @danielblaise156 Před měsícem

    I wanted to like this video until you mentioned “Dallas”
    It’s in FORT WORTH!

  • @ParadiseCity1329
    @ParadiseCity1329 Před měsícem

    Wasn't there a scare in the early 2010s for a tragedy that happened in the infield or somewhere near the track? If you know what I'm talking about, let me know. That event didnt help Texas's reputation either.

  • @Dupontman627
    @Dupontman627 Před 2 měsíci

    This track killed Tony Roper

  • @Jose-Gomez
    @Jose-Gomez Před 2 měsíci +3

    How To Make Taxas Motor Speedway Great Again...
    Go Back To The Original 1999-2016 Configuration, Rather Than The 2017 Configuration.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Honestly, after the last race there, do we really need another reconfiguration?

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 2 měsíci

      @@danielfoster3642 yes.

    • @danielfoster3642
      @danielfoster3642 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT You know they are not going to do that for the next five to ten years, at least. That's facts!!!!!

    • @jaffleyfifteen5912
      @jaffleyfifteen5912 Před měsícem

      @@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YTit took us 7 years for the surface to age enough to widen out and we’ve had good races the last 2 times. And you want to start over? Why don’t you bitch about the short tracks instead of somewhere we actually had a good race

  • @robertwalkerjr5295
    @robertwalkerjr5295 Před 2 měsíci +4

    If you think Texas has terrible racing, you are not paying attention. The short tracks are in trouble. 1.5 miles are the best they have ever been.

    • @CJODell12
      @CJODell12 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Texas is still by far the worst of the 1.5 mile tracks, while Kansas is now arguably the best of the them.

    • @nicholasking7120
      @nicholasking7120 Před měsícem +1

      Texas is the worst 1.5mi by far. The stands are empty. Nobody goes. Everyone dreads the date. Not to mention Wilkesboro replaced one of the Texas dates.

    • @danielblaise156
      @danielblaise156 Před měsícem +1

      @@nicholasking7120idk man this past race there were a shit ton of people.

  • @pacthesir
    @pacthesir Před 10 dny

    I blame the gen 7 car for Texas modern failure, the cars suck

  • @jsanders299
    @jsanders299 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good info. Don’t try to sound like a “broadcaster “, it sounds fake, ridiculous. Talk like a “regular” human being,like you are having a conversation with a person in front of you. I’m not being a hater, just trying to help you improve.

  • @H0LLOW_PRIV
    @H0LLOW_PRIV Před 2 měsíci

    They listened only because the fans kept showing up. They didn't give a rats ass about the drivers or safety. Lmfao

  • @jaffleyfifteen5912
    @jaffleyfifteen5912 Před měsícem

    Tracks fine since they stopped putting pj1. Race was good in April. Stop making annoying click bait videos about Texas. Don’t we have enough videos about this shit