ESPN had the dream team of reporters and commentators. Not only were you entertained by the great racing, Ned, Bob, and BP were entertaining and informative. John and jerry in the pits were great and informative. These were truly the glory days of racing
@@pulsarlights2825What would that have to do with anything? Race fans are there for the racing period and that is regardless of diversity hires as you call it.
The camera angles were a lot better back then. Those wide shots from far away were awesome. It really gave you a great feel of how fast they were going
In car cameras back then we're wayyyyy better too. Made you feel like you were in the seat and could feel the banking. The more closed up the cockpits became it was good for safety but definitely took away from that cool viewer experience
I'll be 40 this year and this was the year I saw the Mark Martin Folgers car at the Piggly Wiggly grocery store in Tennessee. The crewmember gave me a pair of earplugs in a neat little folgers case and instantly I was a Mark Martin/Nascar fan! I dont think I have ever seen a car at a store like that since and that is a shame because it definitely made me a fan..
Man I remember this race so well. Just got back from the gulf and went to visit the family in Indiana and sat with the old man and watched it. And waddya know? My man Bill won. Could not have been happier.
Yes he did, and if he had led all of the laps like he could have they would have thrown debris cautions and everything else to put him back into the field. Saw it many times until I quit watching altogether.
You are correct sir Nascar love to screw Those boys anyway they could 1985 Daytona, 500. Nobody's gonna touch bill. Caution with four to go best thing end under caution but let's throw a green flag with one laptop to go. Hoping bill will Miss A shift, didn't happen? 1997 bill has the fastest car there. gets tag team on a restart is coming under 3rd place with sterling pushing him when caution threw with 5 lefts to go. Could have at least had one lap under green. But no let's run it out under caution and so Jeff Gordon can win. 1986. NASCAR allowed GM to put a d*** arrow coup.Out Which was nothing more than an Arrow dynamic Band-Aid to cover up a p*** pour design by gm s An alllow the feild to catch bill. Those aero coups shouldn't ever been allowed to run in nascar.
NASCAR needs to find a way to make the cars look more like these and less like the goofy looking pieces of crap they are running today. Surely there is a way to combine the modern safety features with a body that actually looks sleek and racy like the Gen 4 cars did. Nobody wants to watch those deformed looking Gen 6 cars go around the track.
Back then car owners weren't just sitting in corporate boxes sipping champagne and kissing sponsors asses. Back then they were hands on. Guys like Richard Childress, Rick Hendrick, Robert Yates and Junior Johnson acted as legitimate parts of their own pit crews. They got their hands dirty as much as the guys changing tires or handing the gas cans, or other owners actually out in their cars like Darrell Waltrip, Rusty Wallace and Alan Kulwicki.
That just shows ya the money involved then vs now. If a car is going to be competitive now, it better be a super trained, fast professional! The only owner who still acts like that is Richard Childress. He has always seemed to want to be the co-crewchief. It is kind of frustrating.
Today's racing isn't racing, it's a bunch of snot nose yuppies who's only racing because of daddy's money, racing back then required talent and balls,today it only requires writing a check...
Started watching around 87 when I was a kid between 8 and 11 years old. I was pretty much hooked instantly. I'm 45 I still watch to this day. I've been fortunate enough to see a few race's in person. Dega 09. 99 getting into the fence to a bunch at TMS Which is closest to me. We'll technically COTA is closer and I want to go there at least once. With all that said nascar is just a better experience in person than on television . I really love the Era of 1987 to 2017. Thanks for the classic video's
This was Bill Elliott's only win in a car that wasn't red. This was also Elliott's final win for Melling Racing. He would drive for Junior Johnson beginning in 1992
Nice little fun fact. Bill Elliott's cool suit malfunctioned and was heating the water running through it rather than cool it and scalded Elliott's back in several places. He said later he felt like he was going to "burn up"
Couple additional notes 1. There was a bizarre sidelight involving Terry Labonte (#94 Sunoco Oldsmobile). Labonte - claiming problems with the car all weekend - made it only 8 laps before bailing out with what he said was engine trouble, though when his crew checked the engine was fine and when an attempt to find a replacement was found (Labonte had already left the track), they declined due to not wanting to risk either the vibration story being true or showing up Terry as a liar; thus ending the #94's afternoon very early (the Racing Reference recap has Labonte listed as simply "quit"). 2. This (based on the comments for this race on Racing Reference {also where I learned of the Labonte incident}) was the first race Benny Parsons covered after losing his wife.
Labonte's situation was a strange one. Rumor had it that he wasn't very happy with the lack of results he was getting with Hagan Racing which is part of why he just "quit" on lap 8 here. Though he did stick with the team until the end of 1993 before joining Rick Hendrick to replace Ricky Rudd in the #5 when Rudd, like Darrell Waltrip in 1991, left Hendrick to start his own team (unlike Waltrip though who stuck with Chevy's and got some help from Hendrick, Rudd's new team went cold turkey and ran Ford Thunderbirds). Benny's wife died during the ESPN's broadcast of the Pocono race 3 weeks earlier. The only Winston Cup race between Pocono and this one was at Michigan which was broadcast by CBS so this was Benny's first time back in the booth since Connie's passing.
I recall reading a book that covered Labonte's season with the #94 Hagan team. It covered that incident and a few other races where the team felt Labonte intentionally "blew up" the motors when he was not happy with the way his car was running. Man, I wish I could remember the title of that book!
Bill knew better than to lead every lap like the GM cars were allowed to do. During these days whenever Bill won a race a rules change would come on Tuesday and he was put back to chasing the France family's favorite's .
@@nascage there is an old saying ... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In recent years NASCAR is guilty of continually trying to fix something that wasn't broke and unfortunately in the process have basically broken it. And most of it sadly seems to be because some marketing people seem to have convinced NASCAR that fans today have short attention spans and won't sit through 3-4 hours of straight up racing like they used to.
Yep according to darrell its 17 an a half flips an up to that point he had the dominate car that day till he wreacked.typical waltrip an his bull shit.he shouldn't be called jaws ot should be penokio cause he can tell more lies than anybody i ever saw like elliots car being a 7/8 size car is why it was so fast
All these people are talking about how they saw these races the years they cane out and I'm sitting here just watching these because there are no races on today but they're still amazing even if I didn't get to watch these because I wasn't born til the early 2000's
Just listen to those beasts 850hp in the early 90s, real paint painted by guys with talent not just some lame vinal wrap. Cars were beautiful and the racing gas smelled so good at the races I live 30 min from Rockingham been to many races there back in the day, and Darlington.
ESPN dropped Nascar for lil bit ...said it wasn't a sport they should view and wasn't a sport in gen....but then realized the $$$$$$ so ESPN came back .....p on ESPN. No offense
SMIFF TV I was in the infield and his car ended up pretty much right in front of us. After the race other kids were going into the infield and getting scrap metal and other pieces they left. I was 9 at the time and my dad didn't want me going out there because track officials were circling the track. eventually he realized nobody was stopping the other kids so he finally let me out there. everything was gone by then and I was just walking around looking at empty grass, I walked further over towards turn 3 and I saw the coil spring laying there in the grass. I was really happy I found it. The Orlando Sentinel ran a story about it too. One of the older kids next to us got all kinds of stuff, his water bottle, goggles, a coil spring, and several pieces of scrap metal.
@@nascage I'm not sure they fell off, I think they likely took them off when he was removed from the car and put on the stretcher. He did have a helmet on and everything. One of the coil springs rolled up and whacked against a metal guardrail that was before the tall chainlink fencing that circled the infield. I saw it/heard it hit and the older kid next to us got it.
Seeing the Daytona race earlier today during this COVID-19 pandemic, those cars in 2020 are a bunch of colorful slot car model racers when compared to the machinery seen here . . . all those clone cars of 2020 does not make for compelling TV viewing of the race.
Theres so many old dw western auto commercials on yt but not the one that shows this crash and he walks out and says "ouch! Man that hurt!" 😆 always thought that was the best one
U could get more attached to a car r driver when they had one primary sponsor plus today's paints schemes r too busy can't really tell what ur looking at
Yep its gone.waltrip got it back i belive but not positive in2015.i saw a documentary were they sent Jeff Hammond to get it an i belive bring it to Darell house cause las time Darell laid eyes on it he he was side ways an keyed his microphone an said im in big trouble right as he closed that road as it fliped an he didnt think it was in that bad of shape an thought him an hamond might fix it get it going again
Thanks for the video ! But it seems there's an issue. For example at 51:30, the image goes crazy, it's more obvious with the graphic inlay. Could it be the youtube stabilize camera shake thing ? In any case, thanks for uploading those sat feeds :)
Raw satellite feed, was that digital or analog signal? Curious. What were the speeds (195 -200 mph) and the hp (650)? The last two weeks of cup racing (6-30-24 to 7-7-24)....sucked, lol. The two guys commentating were the best, veterans Ned and Benny?
ESPN had the dream team of reporters and commentators. Not only were you entertained by the great racing, Ned, Bob, and BP were entertaining and informative. John and jerry in the pits were great and informative. These were truly the glory days of racing
I agree with ya
Back in the days before the diversity hires.....
@@pulsarlights2825What would that have to do with anything? Race fans are there for the racing period and that is regardless of diversity hires as you call it.
@@wildstar43 so you are saying the ratings and sales have not dropped in recent years? The race fans are still showing the same level of support?
@@wildstar43 I agree, race should not be a determining factor in hiring, only ability, experience and the best qualified should matter.
The camera angles were a lot better back then. Those wide shots from far away were awesome. It really gave you a great feel of how fast they were going
Completely agree. I’m sure it’s sponsor dollars going to the network to get in tight on the hood and doesn’t do the racing action justice.
I also agree.. I feel like camera work compared now to then . You could tell a lot better back then how fast the cars were going..
In car cameras back then we're wayyyyy better too. Made you feel like you were in the seat and could feel the banking. The more closed up the cockpits became it was good for safety but definitely took away from that cool viewer experience
I miss this type of racing. These were the glory days of Nascar racing for sure
I'll be 40 this year and this was the year I saw the Mark Martin Folgers car at the Piggly Wiggly grocery store in Tennessee. The crewmember gave me a pair of earplugs in a neat little folgers case and instantly I was a Mark Martin/Nascar fan! I dont think I have ever seen a car at a store like that since and that is a shame because it definitely made me a fan..
I met him here in my town in 1997 at the Winn-Dixie when they sponsored his Busch series car. Great guy.
2:01:58 Darrell Waltrip's flip
Man I remember this race so well. Just got back from the gulf and went to visit the family in Indiana and sat with the old man and watched it. And waddya know? My man Bill won. Could not have been happier.
I had just got back from gulf and Harry Gant was my man . I was on the USS Nicholson DD982.
@@de868 Neat. I was hauling fuel.
Bill put on one of the best displays of driving prowess in that last 10 laps that ever been shown
Yes he did, and if he had led all of the laps like he could have they would have thrown debris cautions and everything else to put him back into the field. Saw it many times until I quit watching altogether.
You are correct sir Nascar love to screw Those boys anyway they could 1985 Daytona, 500. Nobody's gonna touch bill. Caution with four to go best thing end under caution but let's throw a green flag with one laptop to go. Hoping bill will Miss A shift, didn't happen? 1997 bill has the fastest car there. gets tag team on a restart is coming under 3rd place with sterling pushing him when caution threw with 5 lefts to go. Could have at least had one lap under green. But no let's run it out under caution and so Jeff Gordon can win. 1986. NASCAR allowed GM to put a d*** arrow coup.Out Which was nothing more than an Arrow dynamic Band-Aid to cover up a p*** pour design by gm s
An alllow the feild to catch bill.
Those aero coups shouldn't ever been allowed to run in nascar.
damn those cars were beautiful back then, look at Davey's car cruising down the backstretch on the parade laps before the start...
Vine Wood That's the era of nascar that I collect because of how they look!
NASCAR needs to find a way to make the cars look more like these and less like the goofy looking pieces of crap they are running today. Surely there is a way to combine the modern safety features with a body that actually looks sleek and racy like the Gen 4 cars did. Nobody wants to watch those deformed looking Gen 6 cars go around the track.
Real paint not no lame wraps, 850hp, drivers with personalities, full stands,....etc etc .
That intro music is in my head forever. My children once told me that my face changed everytime à race coverage start 😁
The glory years! Could you imagine a car owner on pit road now beating on rear spoiler?
Back then car owners weren't just sitting in corporate boxes sipping champagne and kissing sponsors asses. Back then they were hands on. Guys like Richard Childress, Rick Hendrick, Robert Yates and Junior Johnson acted as legitimate parts of their own pit crews. They got their hands dirty as much as the guys changing tires or handing the gas cans, or other owners actually out in their cars like Darrell Waltrip, Rusty Wallace and Alan Kulwicki.
They would be penalized severely.
That just shows ya the money involved then vs now. If a car is going to be competitive now, it better be a super trained, fast professional! The only owner who still acts like that is Richard Childress. He has always seemed to want to be the co-crewchief. It is kind of frustrating.
Thanks! These old races are all the racing I watch anymore. I have no interest in what they call racing today.
Shut up old.man
James Gentry you’d be really embarrassed for an old man to whip your punk ass.
@@jamesgentry13 enjoy your iracing
Today's racing isn't racing, it's a bunch of snot nose yuppies who's only racing because of daddy's money, racing back then required talent and balls,today it only requires writing a check...
Jonny Crash you are exactly right. Doesn’t matter how little skill you have just as long as daddy can write the checks.
Started watching around 87 when I was a kid between 8 and 11 years old. I was pretty much hooked instantly. I'm 45 I still watch to this day. I've been fortunate enough to see a few race's in person. Dega 09. 99 getting into the fence to a bunch at TMS Which is closest to me. We'll technically COTA is closer and I want to go there at least once. With all that said nascar is just a better experience in person than on television . I really love the Era of 1987 to 2017. Thanks for the classic video's
Thank you SMIFF TV.
SMIFF! I’ll say it again 👍
30 years later still fresh in everyone's mind.
Thanks for the great racing video! I enjoy the 1970s and 1980s races most.
Wow look at all of those fans... before NASCAR abandoned their base!
This was Bill Elliott's only win in a car that wasn't red. This was also Elliott's final win for Melling Racing. He would drive for Junior Johnson beginning in 1992
Nice little fun fact. Bill Elliott's cool suit malfunctioned and was heating the water running through it rather than cool it and scalded Elliott's back in several places. He said later he felt like he was going to "burn up"
I thought he was about to pull a Nigel Mansell and pass out during the interview! He looked absolutely beat!
You can tell that it took a toll on him. That race couldn't end fast enough for him
Couple additional notes
1. There was a bizarre sidelight involving Terry Labonte (#94 Sunoco Oldsmobile). Labonte - claiming problems with the car all weekend - made it only 8 laps before bailing out with what he said was engine trouble, though when his crew checked the engine was fine and when an attempt to find a replacement was found (Labonte had already left the track), they declined due to not wanting to risk either the vibration story being true or showing up Terry as a liar; thus ending the #94's afternoon very early (the Racing Reference recap has Labonte listed as simply "quit").
2. This (based on the comments for this race on Racing Reference {also where I learned of the Labonte incident}) was the first race Benny Parsons covered after losing his wife.
Labonte's situation was a strange one. Rumor had it that he wasn't very happy with the lack of results he was getting with Hagan Racing which is part of why he just "quit" on lap 8 here. Though he did stick with the team until the end of 1993 before joining Rick Hendrick to replace Ricky Rudd in the #5 when Rudd, like Darrell Waltrip in 1991, left Hendrick to start his own team (unlike Waltrip though who stuck with Chevy's and got some help from Hendrick, Rudd's new team went cold turkey and ran Ford Thunderbirds).
Benny's wife died during the ESPN's broadcast of the Pocono race 3 weeks earlier. The only Winston Cup race between Pocono and this one was at Michigan which was broadcast by CBS so this was Benny's first time back in the booth since Connie's passing.
I recall reading a book that covered Labonte's season with the #94 Hagan team. It covered that incident and a few other races where the team felt Labonte intentionally "blew up" the motors when he was not happy with the way his car was running. Man, I wish I could remember the title of that book!
Supposedly Ernie built that engine 300 cubic inches and it ran better with the plate. But afterwards NASCRAP said no you can't do that anymore!
Bill knew better than to lead every lap like the GM cars were allowed to do. During these days whenever Bill won a race a rules change would come on Tuesday and he was put back to chasing the France family's favorite's .
I love the blue coors light car
2:40:50 Its like a kmart parking lot-Bob jenkings 1991
I guess now it would be a Walmart parking lot. A Kmart parking lot now would be mostly empty.
Looks like today's NASCAR getting ready to qualify. What a joke it is now.
@@nascage there is an old saying ... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In recent years NASCAR is guilty of continually trying to fix something that wasn't broke and unfortunately in the process have basically broken it. And most of it sadly seems to be because some marketing people seem to have convinced NASCAR that fans today have short attention spans and won't sit through 3-4 hours of straight up racing like they used to.
Since listening to the Dale Jr download and all the creative engineering back then it makes you wonder what the fast cars had going on.
Benny parsons, well the green flag is out but it doesn’t look like it.. pretty much sums up restriction plate racing.
Back when that gave praise to the camera crews!
Waltrip's Chevy rolled 6 and 3/4 times before coming to rest.
Thankfully DW is still around to tell the tale.
Yep according to darrell its 17 an a half flips an up to that point he had the dominate car that day till he wreacked.typical waltrip an his bull shit.he shouldn't be called jaws ot should be penokio cause he can tell more lies than anybody i ever saw like elliots car being a 7/8 size car is why it was so fast
And tell it. And tell it. And tell it.
RIP Bob Jenkins.
All these people are talking about how they saw these races the years they cane out and I'm sitting here just watching these because there are no races on today but they're still amazing even if I didn't get to watch these because I wasn't born til the early 2000's
Mark Martin did win the previous cup. He was fucked out of it.
Just listen to those beasts 850hp in the early 90s, real paint painted by guys with talent not just some lame vinal wrap. Cars were beautiful and the racing gas smelled so good at the races I live 30 min from Rockingham been to many races there back in the day, and Darlington.
118 octane....OMGGGGG NOTHIN BETTER. I run 110 in lawnmower and 4whlr just for the smell
Not 850hp with that plate on them. Maybe 475!
@@knobdikker yes with the plate 475-ish but they only ran the plate on 2 tracks.
God I miss ESPN and the crew!😢
ESPN dropped Nascar for lil bit ...said it wasn't a sport they should view and wasn't a sport in gen....but then realized the $$$$$$ so ESPN came back .....p on ESPN. No offense
02:01:30 is DW's major accident.
I have one of his coil springs from that wreck.
That is AWESOME! How'd you get a hold of it?
SMIFF TV I was in the infield and his car ended up pretty much right in front of us. After the race other kids were going into the infield and getting scrap metal and other pieces they left. I was 9 at the time and my dad didn't want me going out there because track officials were circling the track. eventually he realized nobody was stopping the other kids so he finally let me out there. everything was gone by then and I was just walking around looking at empty grass, I walked further over towards turn 3 and I saw the coil spring laying there in the grass. I was really happy I found it. The Orlando Sentinel ran a story about it too. One of the older kids next to us got all kinds of stuff, his water bottle, goggles, a coil spring, and several pieces of scrap metal.
@@sevendst19 Wow, his goggles! That tells you how violent these wrecks were back in the day.
@@nascage I'm not sure they fell off, I think they likely took them off when he was removed from the car and put on the stretcher. He did have a helmet on and everything. One of the coil springs rolled up and whacked against a metal guardrail that was before the tall chainlink fencing that circled the infield. I saw it/heard it hit and the older kid next to us got it.
Seeing the Daytona race earlier today during this COVID-19 pandemic, those cars in 2020 are a bunch of colorful slot car model racers when compared to the machinery seen here . . . all those clone cars of 2020 does not make for compelling TV viewing of the race.
Gotta love those thunderbirds
Theres so many old dw western auto commercials on yt but not the one that shows this crash and he walks out and says "ouch! Man that hurt!" 😆 always thought that was the best one
Elliott owned every croud as soon as he hit the track.
jeff hammond is ageless lol he looks younger now
Love awesome bill
U could get more attached to a car r driver when they had one primary sponsor plus today's paints schemes r too busy can't really tell what ur looking at
Those were the days when great announcers made a NASCAR race entertaining to watch.
Jaws wrecked car was at the Darlington museum, that was as of 2012 I think when I last saw it I think it's been moved since...
Yep its gone.waltrip got it back i belive but not positive in2015.i saw a documentary were they sent Jeff Hammond to get it an i belive bring it to Darell house cause las time Darell laid eyes on it he he was side ways an keyed his microphone an said im in big trouble right as he closed that road as it fliped an he didnt think it was in that bad of shape an thought him an hamond might fix it get it going again
They had it at darlington when I was younger at the race in 98 took pictures standing next to it and all.. car was totally destroyed
I have time to watch.
They must be going THAT fast! The telecast was shaking for much of the video 😆😆
Thought I was having a acid flashback haha. I noticed the same thing
I think it’s the tracking on the vhs they ripped it from
Bill Jenkins. One of NASCAR's best announcers.
Bob
Yep! Bob Jenkins and Ken Squier were the best IMO, with Benny and Ned being great color commentators as well.
Thanks for the video !
But it seems there's an issue. For example at 51:30, the image goes crazy, it's more obvious with the graphic inlay. Could it be the youtube stabilize camera shake thing ?
In any case, thanks for uploading those sat feeds :)
I miss hearing the "ROAR" of those car engines...not like today's crap
👍I agree
hereky jerky video. These guy's can race.
heregy yeregy video. analog video is out there on tape.
Raw satellite feed, was that digital or analog signal? Curious. What were the speeds (195 -200 mph) and the hp (650)? The last two weeks of cup racing (6-30-24 to 7-7-24)....sucked, lol. The two guys commentating were the best, veterans Ned and Benny?
Way to go GOODYEAR. Obviously the Hoosier threat woke up the sleeping giant
2:47:15 “What’d ya throw away Gene? “ Nothing”…
youtube auto stabilization sucks
Oh my god DARRELL
The last win of Melling Racing
9:30 race start
If they just would have taken the restrictor plates off, They wouldn't have had to make all the rule changes that killed NASCAR...... jus sayin
Well when you're up against the wall that is insurance companies... you're kinda forced to do what they ask.
So don't blame Nascar
They outa call that dam thing the ernie plate cause he is the reason they put them on the cars
Plates been used since 68 ....this kinda plate was for Bobbys talladega wreck few yr back
DW could’ve won this race for sure!
2:01:56 Darell Waltrip Flip
Did Phil Barkdoll ever run a race without crashing?
Could you imagine a modern pit crew back then? They would blow them out of the water.
2:40:50
Why not 180 degrees?
I was 13 😳
Sterling Marlin caused a lot of wrecks ,including the one that took Dale Srs life.
0:19
2:40:48
kmart parking lot lol
Great video's and I agree with lot comments win Dale died Nascar died thanks for the old video's.
Bennys first wife....what was cause for her to pass away anyone know
Cancer
Ohhh ok thanks yea couldn't rem
2:03:27 safety workers getting into action as DW is still rolling
Marlin caused DW crash
2:40:48