Did Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Smash Ultimate get the BEST DLC
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Super Smash Bros Ultimate and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe are two of the biggest games on the Nintendo switch. What makes the two of them stand out however is their incredible DLC, with smash ultimate getting fighters pass 1 and fighters pass 2 and mario kart 8 deluxe getting 6 waves of the booster course pass. With the recent release of wave 6, both game’s DLC has finally come to an end, but that leaves the question of which game got better DLC? Smash ultimate added 12 new fighters: piranha plant, joker, hero, banjo, terry, byleth, min min, steve, sephiroth, pyra, kazuya and sora whereas the booster course pass added 48 tracks from previous mario kart games. So join me as I take a look at super smash bros ultimate and mario kart 8 deluxe to determine which game got the best DLC and see if both of them are worth it!
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14:20 I lied by the way Freddy is unironically my second most wanted character
haha (1)4:20
HAR HAR HAR HAR
We all know who number one is
Freddy and springtrap were done as theoretical movesets for brawlfans move sets. A FNAF rep would genuinely be amazing.
Honestly kinda based
There should have been a point based on which game added more WALUIGI stuff. I wonder who would’ve won it.
I wonder.... mario kart
Mario kart
Sad we can't say it was Mario Odyssey
😢
Or Tears of the kingdom
Um ackshully Luigi’s Ballon Wolrd is better than both of these dlc because Luigi is cool 🤓🤓
Or Mario Party Superstars 😡
@@zumbudeawndeinternet8645 No leave that overrated AF Game without anything to call it's own. Same for it's prequel.
I think one aspect you should’ve taken into account was replayability. With Mario Kart you’re gonna want to race on the new tracks over and over again where as with Smash, you’ll try out all of the new characters at least once, but only continue playing as the ones you really latch onto
Yeah I definitely agree with this. The only DLC characters that I play from time to time is Byleth and Hero. Honestly I get way more replayability from the stages, but even then Hollow Bastion and Northern Cave are easily substituted for Smashville and Kalos respectively.
However if you latch onto a new character that would make you replay that content more.
you assume that a single person is going to replay snes mario circuit?
@@Kookie_TV I mean yeah if they’re replaying the cup it’s in. Even bad tracks still have some level of replayability
@@squill9446 but like the turnip cup entirely sucks so explain that
Something you didnt mention is that in the video Sakurai made to show off Steve's moveset for smash, he stated that he and his programmers had to modify EVERY SINGLE STAGE in the game with a new grid system just so that Steve could simply place blocks. If that doesnt show the love and attention smash bros dlc got, idk what does
Maybe was the case, but I think he was referring to assigning different parts of stages materials for mining more than anything
Actually, the booster course pass DID have 48 new tracks, because we got the staff credits. But we can also count Yoshi’s island results and the separate variants of Koopa cape, Singapore, moonview, 3ds rainbow road, and Madrid drive. That gives us 57 new music tracks to listen to.
Madrid only has one remix, the museum and stadium variants are their tour versions just with reverb.
Erm, actually
Honestly to me, mariokart wins by a little bit. They randomly decided to double the game's content for less than half the price 5 years after the game came out, almost 10 years after the original. And they added some QoL things like the music selection thing and the new characters. Were some of the tracks misses? Yes, 14 cities was excessive. But I think most of the tracks were pretty good considering they had to make 8 in around 3 months or so for like 2 years (excpet for sky garden that one sucked😒)
Don't forget they added the ability to disable items as you see fit. Granted you don't need the DLC to do this, but also this feature wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the DLC.
so what if its a lot, it's literally just a massive port of tour with a few wii tracks thrown in, smash ultimate literally shook the world
They could add all of the city tracks but didn’t have room for Piranha Plant Pipeline
its kinda misleading to say it doubled the games content, bc it's just a bunch of crappy tour ports with graphics that look like it's a gamecube game. The genuinely retro tracks suck as well because they do no justice to their originals, like how they butchered both rainbow roads and removed koopa cape zappers like WHY
I’d much rather they never done this and put that time into making the new Mario kart. Like you said the games been out coming up to 10 years now (and I’ve been playing since its launch lol) and the quality of life changes should of been in the deluxe in the first place
If they added Steve and a Minecart to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, it would be a tie
Dry bones in a Minecart that’d go so hard…….
@@Odyssey_Central That would literally be Jesus 2.
@@bonedude1286I don’t wanna be that guy but don’t joke about religion, Some people believe that Jesus = God so that will offend some people
@@CrazyOlafBrosYT if he was actually intending to be blasphemous, yes, it would be messed up. But he wasn't, so it's mostly fine.
They already did, you just might get banned from switch online
I’m genuinely curious as to which one got better dlc. Both of the games are great imo
i think it'd be a lot more fear to compare the smash characters to the mario kart stages and vice-versa as the characters in smash, and the race tracks in mario kart are what really gives you gameplay, while mario kart characters, and smash stages dont change the game nearly as much(especially when you already have the base roster)
As a Terry Main, I have to say, walking up to someone, asking if they're ok, and then exploding them instantly has never felt this satisfying.
6:33 ERM ACKSHUALLY, in sora’s victory theme it plays a-
uhm
guys wtf is fazbear doing outside my second story windo
Har, har har har-
Looks like your power fell down to 0
I LOVE how I’m likely on of the only 3 people in the entire world (or maybe even the only one) to actually, unironically be delighted and like the inclusions of both Min Min and Peachette for SSBU & MK8D’s DLCs respectively.
I don’t care if they are (for the most part anyways) despised by literally everybody else, I love their character desings and the re presentati in they give off. Heck they may even be the only real and genuine surprises I’ve had about these DLCs, mainly due to everything else being either spoiled to me, me not knowing about the character prior to the reveal or just really not anything special.
So yeah even if I may be alone in genuinely loving and supporting their inclusions, I do not hold any such regret or remorse for them at all, one bit. Quite the opposite in fact, I say they deserved to be included and I’ll die on that hill. 🍜👑
Good video in general!
I will say, I do like a lot how you compared things, but I don't know what else you could compare next... But you will surely figure that out! If you make another one of these I will definitely watch it happily!
Great video! I personally really like this style of comparing 2 different games on a specific criteria and I would really like to see some more videos on it, maybe you could make a video on Mario 64 vs Mario Odyssey or Mario Kart DS vs Mario Kart 7, either way really great video!
These were some of the BEST DLC'S I've EVER seen! They were both amazing for different reasons! Now we just need proper Mario Odyssey and Wonder DLC!!!
12:39 Terry’s fairly well known in Japan and Latin America. I hate when people diss him just because they’re too focused on the characters popular in English-speaking communities. Heck, even within English-speaking communities, KoF’s still got its fans in the FGC.
Yeah
Smash players don't play other fighting games
@@rubyrogers8879 I know, but it’d be nice if they at least researched other games if they’re going to be making videos talking about characters from them.
@GurrenPrime I agree, it's sad rrally but sadly I am not surprised.
I mean this is the same fanbase who thinks adding a Nintendo character....in a Nintendo crossover game is wrong lmao
Extremely well put together video
While I wasn’t excited for Pyra, playing Xenoblade 2 changed my opinion on that. It’s now my favorite game of all time, and they became one of my new mains.
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My problem with this comparison is that the characters aren’t the meat of Mario Kart. It’s the tracks.
While the Fighters are the meat of Smash. Not the stages.
You should actually compare the quality of the fighters to the quality of the tracks, as that’s the meat of both DLC.
Terry was known by pretty much everyone who actually dared to play fighting games outside of smash. Truly the strongest and bravest amongst society. Do not act like he was some un-known the entire south america region probably went into a week long celebration as a reaction to his reveal.
Love the unique vid idea❤
I do think this was an interesting question while I do enjoy the Mario kart 8 quantity I won’t deny Ultimates quality
I’m still rioting that Peachette Was added in instead of Hammer Bro :(
YES. LITERALLY WHO WANTED PEACHETTE
@@ohhi687itsme8 This is the internet. I am sure there is some weirdo out there whose favorite fictional character is peachette
@@axolotlstudios7918 And that's one person, whereas the hammer bro is objectively a better character.
But yes you are right
Or King Bob omb. He should have been added instead of Petey Piranha because King Bob omb was in the Mario movie
^King Bob-mob should have been added, but not in Petey Piranha’s place, that’s just wrong
I my opinion, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe had the best DLC. I like Smash Ultimate’s DLC, but tbh I was more excited for the new tracks rather than the new Smash Ultimate characters
I would say the same, only beacause I was less aware of many franchaises, only using smash to promote those games. Even with a lot of quality, it doesn't mean that almost half of the fighter pass is more like an add for a certain game.
Just like Fire emblem, xenoblade chronicles and Arms. Not to mention that Steve is more like a meme, like Sans.
And let's be honest, most of us olny will play the SSB stages 1 time or a couple of times (for the spirits and classic mode's) and then will forget them in the abyss
At least with Mario kart they can be played A LOT more times.
One has Minecraft Steve, one has Funky Kong, in my eyes that makes them perfectly tied
A PERFECT SPLIT
I like MarioKart 8s dlc better, great video!
Prevideo thoughts: I think price wise, 8 dx, we got double the base game content and new characters. However I think smash did better content overall, as you got a bunch of new fighters, a stage for each, and new spirits.
My best argument for the booser course is that no part of me wishes it didn't come out
IDK what you’re trying to say, no part of me wishes the Smash DLC didn’t come out, and if anything, a part of me wishes the BCP didn’t come out because now we’re stuck with the worst versions of Sky Garden and Sunset Wilds
You forgot the Cuphead and Shantae music tracks that were also added with their respective costumes, you brought up San’s Megalovania so I think adding the other 2 Costume tracks is also fitting
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personally my favourite DLC on the switch is xenoblade 2's, mostly just because it provides everything a fan of that game could want and a lot of it for a pretty cheap price
I feel as though the approachable aspect of the dlc could've been considered. Several of the dlc fighters in smash ultimate are up there with the most complex fighters to master. That makes wanting to try them more daunting/difficult for a casual player. Compared to the Mario Kart dlc which is arguably approachable for all skills since is just more races and characters with nothing much really changing the skill ceiling/floor.
Great video why did you say Peachette last lol 😂😂
Another nice thing about MK8 is that you can play the tracks without needing to buy the dlc if you play online, niche but nice if you dont stack paper
That’s good! I haven’t touched the online in a while, but it’s always a letdown when a game’s community gets segregated by the release of a DLC.
I would LOVE for you to do a music video! Like, ranking every MK8 song or smash song, that would be amazing!
I think all of the things here can be different for everyone. Im someone that does not play smash for example, so i did not care at all when something new released, but just could NOT wait when a new BCP wave released. Another example would be the music; im a huge fan of the music of mario kart, and always listen to it, while i never listen to super smash bros music. It's also hard to make old mariokart songs feel more modern then they already were, or keeping the same feel as the original. I might also be a bit biased, but you are too; just check timestamp 12:55.
Mario kart technically doesn’t have 47 music tracks because some tracks have different versions of that track theme. Ex koopa cape has a unique music piece when you enter the forest section.🥒
No, clearly the best DLC on the switch is the Luigi's mansion 3 multiplayer pack. Obviously
LM3 DLC peak
Based and Luigipilled
imo its mario kart for sure. all the extra tracks is what does it for me. im not a huge fan of most of the dlc fighters but all the extra tracks is really nice
6:35
Floral Fury: "Am I a joke to you?"
Also the song that came with the Shantae outfit
tbh i don’t think the quality vs quantity argument is entirely applicable, you only spend a couple minutes max on each track at a time and the experience of each race is generally the same regardless of track, unlike a high quality smash character like steve being added that fundamentally changes your gameplay experience, mariokart tracks and characters are not capable of the same level of “quality” that smash dlc is because the game just isn’t as nuanced and particular, so it’s in bad faith to hold them to the same standard.
Are you going to make a video ranking the Zelda stages in smash ultimate like you did with Mario?
The BCP would've won if it had Batman
Video idea. Compare Mario Odyssey to Super Mario Bros Wonder
Odyssey wins
In my opinion, it's whether you like new layouts or new chracters. But mario kart has funky Kong, mario kart wins
Good choise
Smash Bros has Minecraft Steve and Sans Undertale, Smash Bros wins
11:20
Perfectly accurate statement for my mental health.
I LOVE the joker winning music
Hey Odyssey
As someone who has played an instrument and knows a basic amount about music i would say dont really worry about how to talk about music
Now granted idk what you know about music but coming from the experience of a guy who loves music but cant always find the best ways to express it
I would say just try your best to describe what you like about it in broad terms
Hope this helps in any way
Great video
And keep up the entertaining content!
Just curious, and maybe take this as a video request idea if you want, but why do you want Dry Bones in Smash anyway? What would the moveset be?
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tfw xenoblade 2 and xenoblade 3 exist (including torna the golden country and future redeemed, not just the fun bonus stuff for base game)
Errmmm, actually it is 48% for Kario Mart and 52% for Muper Bash Sros.
6:38 and Burning town from the shantae costume
Some ideas for comparision videos:
- Pokémon version A VS version B (Scarlet/Violet, Sword/Shield...)
- Zelda BotW VS Zelda TotK
- Super Mario Odyssey VS Super Mario Bros. Wonder (No bias is allowed)
Odyssey and Wonder aren’t nearly as comparable as the other ones, one of them is a 3D Super Mario 64-esque platformer while the other is basically if a New Super Mario Bros. game had creative level design but almost no bosses (and Odyssey is still better even without bias)
These DLCs are so close to each other. They’re both amazing and make their already great games far better. I think the BCP is the better DLC though because of one thing: Price!!
Definitely gotta go with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC here. Although they compare in the way that they really have editions that are here a hit or miss here whether you love Mario Kart or Smash Bros
Not 11, but there are actually 12 dlc characters in smash ultimate. Piranha Plant is also DLC.
Technically he isn’t, he was a bonus for the main game
5:30 tbh I’d watch like, a ranking or all the new ultimate remixes or something
I was gonna make a joke about the MC remix used in Steve’s trailer but I can’t remember it’s name and my brain keeps saying it’s Dharmann
My only critique about the smash DLC stages is despite the gimmicks, the only one stage added that wasn’t essentially a flat stage with a gimmick was Spiral Mountain. Not a lot of variety compared to the MK8 DLC tracks
By the way, the bcp did add 48 new music tracks. The new credits added a new song!
I think overall hype, yeah Smash wins it but I was much more of a fan of the BCP. While I grew up simultaneously with both Mario Kart and Smash Bros, I found Mario Kart to be way more exciting because the DLC brought 48 tracks back from previous games. Idk I love Smash too but a lot of the characters were misses for me personally even though they were hype imo. Like when they came out I played them for like a day and then I stopped playing Smash again but Mario Kart, every new wave I stayed for like 2 or so weeks before being bored. Plus I also liked the speculation community of the BCP. Was a lot of fun talking with people about which tracks had a great chance and which ones didn’t and still having a bit of surprise factor sprinkled in there. Not good ones though like Airship Fortress sadly.
You forgot to count Floral Fury from the Cuphead Mii costume during the music segment
14:20 I’m totally thinking that😂😂
tbf making Smash stages, especially the ones where they move like Hero’s stage needed a lot of 3D modelling effort, so idk…
And yes Los Angeles Laps is one of the best thing to ever happen in gaming
I think a better way to compare the two DLC’s would have been by giving each dlc a ranking in a category of 1-10 and then taking the average and declaring that the winner. This way it would represent if the two DLC’s are similar in an area and allow credit to be given to both. Not that I disliked this video or anything, it was still very entertaining to see this comparison even in this format.
Awesome thumbnail.
You could compare all dlc included in the Nintendo Switch Online expansion pack
There was a funny Jumbo Josh reference.
I think there was a missed oppotunity to talk about how in MK8D you can still play on the DLC courses, I know you can play DLC maps in smash but the courses are the main part of MK8D DLC while it's the characters for Smash
Megalovania the only dlc mii song
The only one
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As much as I loved the Smash DLC I feel like a very big factor for me is playability. Yeah sure the characters are cool and their trailers were hype but most of them just don't really mesh with me playing as them. Most of them are fine but I feel like the only standouts are Joker, Terry, Sephiroth and the Aegis. Meanwhile overlooking the fluctuating visual quality are mostly the tacks we remember in the amazing 8 engine. This isn't to say I appreciate the dip in visual quality, just that most of the tracks are fun to race on no matter what.
I think it definitely depends on which game you play and enjoy more. I get way more enjoyment from playing Mario Kart than smash, (I'm bad at smash) and even though I didn't initially vote because I couldn't decide, through the video, I found myself wanting Mario kart to win, so that's my favorite
Also, I have 20+ video games across 5 different consoles, and I only regularly play 3. (Minecraft ps4, Mario Kart 8 deluxe switch, and MLB the show 16 ps4). I'll play smash too, but not as regularly as those 3.
The ultimate question.
Ok I’m 99 percent sure that my vote was the one that made the post go 50/50 which is really cool and I guess that means I made the video happy so you’re all welcome
I used to play competitive Smash when the dlc was still being released, and one thing to also consider is that Smash Ultimate us a new entry in its franchise, while Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a nearly decade old game that got ported and only got dlc like 5 years after the port came out. This heavily affected my enjoyment of the booster course pass because at the end of the day, I was still playing Mario Kart 8, and I was already kinda sick of doing that by the time they announced the dlc. I admit that having some of my favorite tracks of all time back has increased my enjoyment of the game, but I really wish they would've remade more tracks from the other Mario Kart games and only ported the best city tracks. I get why they did it, but just becomes a chore playing them online when there's a high chance to get em.
Before Wave 6, I would’ve disagreed with only bringing back the best city tracks since the BCP was clearly meant to preserve Tour’s brand-new tracks, but since PPP didn’t make the cut, yeah they could’ve probably cut out the worst Tour tracks (Tokyo Blur and Sky-High Sundae IMO)
@@mimikyutubesaltaccount4875Dude he probably doesn’t know what you mean by “PPP”, you can’t abbreviate everything to everyone lel 😅
@@WritingCountingOriginal Ah shit good point, I meant Piranha Plant Pipeline, sorry WCO and UTS64
One thing that i found very funny about mk8dx Is that peachette and Rosalina are meta
If dry bones gets added, what will you say at the end of your videos?
Rosalina is cringe and thanks for watching
15:06 LA LAPS IS MY FAVORITE TRACK THATS MEEE
ok I see that the first smash dlc characters were for different continents because joker was more global, banjo was especially for Americans and terry for latinos. I'm from Chile and I was at a convention when they announced Terry and it was completely crazy.
It really depends on which game you prefer, I guess. Because as someone who's dabbled in MK8D but _loves_ Smash, it's really no contest at all.
But someone who plays Mario Kart more probably feels the exact opposite 🤷♂️
6:36 You forgot about the Cuphead and Shantae one too.
12:38 im pretty sure snk and fatal fury are popular in Latin and South America
13:56 Airship Fortress DS and Wario Stadium 64 deserve justice 😢
The Tour city tracks were the fire emblem of Mario Kart
Except they would never have done a dlc if it wasn’t for Tour, did you know that? No
Edit: I know I’m salty, but you deserve all the cities :)
I think all of those factors he talked STRONGLY depends on Who you ask..
But since its my turn im going with Smash Ultimate! (despite me actually only owning Joker, Pyra/Mythra and Terry ONLY because of the music that came with them)
For MK8 deluxe, I never had any problems with them adding Non Favorite Tracks because those need more love too, much like Smash Ultimate where Pyra/Mythra, Min Min, and Apparently Terry and Kazuya, If people didn't know who they were prior they Do now LOL!
And Imo even so, IMO MK8 deluxe dlc got Carried by Funky Kong and Wii Rainbow Road..but every other thing heard has either a certain track getting "ruined" a Character that "Doesn't belong" and other Nitpicks..
Smash has those nitpicks also with people not shutting up about "Anime Characters" or what not but it also got Carried by Fan Favorite things.
So even tho i said Smash Bros Ultimate, there's not really a wrong answer here!😊
Dry bones for smash
Crazy video idea: Make a Spirit Battle for every BFDI contestant and host.
He doesn’t care about BFDI as far as I know (neither do I)
@@mimikyutubesaltaccount4875 Oh, okay. Maybe I'll ask someone in the Object Show community that's a huge fan of Super Smash Bros.
smash ultimate got the best dlc because i can now play as a piranha plant fighting minecraft steve in hanenbow from the ds music toy game electroplankton while an official toby fox custom remix of megalovania plays as it is one of the songs that can be played on hanenbow for obvious reasons
gosh i am so happy that hanenbow got into smash somehow. f***ing electroplankton of all things. i loved that game. and now it is officially linked to megalovania in an official real collaboration between nintendo and toby fox
5:30 250k special, all ssbu songs ranked??!!
11:20 as an insane person, I must say that I bought like 10-15 mii costumes. I dont even use most of them 😭😭😭
Smash gave us what they said for the most part, while mario kart gave us what they said then more, from not only the new characters, custom items, new patches, and better quality tracks!
Yeah, but the bar for what Smash was promising was so much higher than what 8DX was promising, and I didn’t see 8DX break Twitter because of a track reveal
2:43 Erm actually Birdo and Peachette share the same stats as Yoshi, Peach and Daisy which is the best class in the game meta wise sooooo..... ☝️🤓
Funny fact, if you have the music point to Mario Kart the score would be even :)
This feels like the argument beetween terraria and minecraft. They are simply both good in their own right.
Both are awesome
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I agree with where all of the points went, but I just like Mario Kart more