Loving this so far. Growing up, my mother was a retail clerk; in my extreme youth, she worked at a small upscale clothing store (they had their own on-site tailor, from whom I learned an interest in the craft) in the Tri-County Mall; she left that job after one of my sisters was born, but I remember hanging out in the store often, in what would have been the late '80s. After a few years, she then took work at Bigg's in what was then Forest Fair Mall; again, I was often brought along, and got to hang out in this mall in my tween years. After a bit, she left there and started working at Linens 'n' Things in the then recently-remodeled Sycamore Plaza; I'd always go to Barnes and Noble during this era, as it was generally during my high school days. So, it's neat to see a presented history of these places where I literally grew up.
At 11:50 you can see the old skylights over the long-gone interior hallways (at a slight angle to the rest of the building) that have since been covered with brown shingles.
I recently got a piece of the Western Woods Mall for my personal collection (one of the street light fixtures seen at 8:30) it's fascinating how much our society has changed in only the last few decades and a great example are the once-grand shopping centers becoming nothing in only a short matter of time.
Thanks for the information! I've lived around Cincinnati all my life. I've visited all these locations over the years but did not know all the history!
I lived in Cincinnati for 37 years and I found a lot of this stuff researching for this documentary! We were definitely a “mall family” but no one seemed to remember that kind of stuff
Great video. Overmalling played a huge role in what so many malls failed. Did we ever really need 5 malls within a 10 mile radius? No we didn't. I can't imagine what these developers were thinking back then, what a waste of land, money and resources. :/
Awesome vid! You’ve hit this one out of the park. I haven’t seen any other dead mall post that’s gone this route. Having the background and the wider perspective really sets this apart. Thanks!
Spent my high school years in Cincinnati, lived across the river in Northern Kentucky. Definitely took part in many weekend trips to Kenwood Town Center, and later as an early 20's kid, frequented Bourbon Street taking over Forest Fair Mall (loved the kinetic ball display in the middle of that). I lived across the way from Crestview Hills Mall, which I believe was dead by late 80's - one anchor lived as a McAlpin's, and the mall itself had a handful of stores open including an Orange Julius. Florence Y'ALL was my regular.
LOVE this! I read an article after the 2008 financial crisis analyzing a study done by Credit Suisse that concluded....wait for it...We were overmalled. Mall deaths and the loss of the mall culture is a deeply unfortunate side effect of the inevitable correction that follows a bubble. Online retail hasn’t played as much of a role as everyone loves to think. Thank you for this, Kristin!
I'm working on the next episode now which really is when the dam started to break--not only did we have too many malls but they started to rapidly increase in size via remodels. Thank YOU for watching!
The St Louis metro area, had the same issue - too many malls and a declining population due to the loss of high paying aerospace and auto manufacturing jobs.
I lived in the greater Cincinnati area for four years of undergrad and have visited many of the malls! Very entertaining video and clearly an impressive amount of research.
With every video, I'm continually impressed by the great production of these videos. Excellent editing, narration, and flow of content. It's the kind of video you don't realize you've spent 15+ minutes watching until it ends.
I saw every bit of that as a child growing up in the 50s and 60s there was supposed to be a mall built in Lebanon Ohio on State Route 48 that was going to be more expensive than Kenwood Mall then the financial crisis hit and that was the end of the project
This was a nice look at the early years of the retail shopping center and mall history, in Cincinnati. Can't wait for the next chapters, of this. When I looked up a satellite image of Swifton Commons, it made me sad that the only thing that has been built where that used to stand, was a church. Hopefully other things are eventually built there, on that former site. I guess there have been a few proposals to redevelop that site besides the construction of that church, and nothing has been agreed on yet?
It's a struggling area, and I think it's a matter of trying to figure out what will be profitable vs what is actually good for the residents is a difficult balance. The city still owns it; the last unveiled plans were suggesting something similar to Summit Park in Blue Ash, OH that would be a park with some retail stores and offices.
I love seeing all the old malls! The suburbs of Chicago where we live is also overmalled too! You should do some malls over here sometime! Great video!
LATE BREAKING CORRECTION: While as of 2019, The Village of Indian Hill was listed by Bloomberg.com as the 11th richest neighborhood in the United States, and the highest ranking city in Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana it is not the richest neighborhood in the Midwest. It is exceeded by a couple of neighborhoods in the Chicago suburbs.
I love seeing this stuff, but I could just cry at the same time. I love that these malls went from open air malls, to enclosed malls, and now back to open air or "town center" concepts, and still poop out. Milwaukee has one of those in the suburb of GLENDALE, WI (BAYSHORE TOWN CENTER) that is going through its 3rd re-incarnation. I'd rather drive 10 minutes north to newer, better stores, with better parking and less traffic congestion.
I have just discovered this channel and it is absolutely fantastic!!! Binge watching will be mine! Such thorough and well researched videos. Wow. Thank you so much for these.
This video was so good! So random, but I really enjoyed the sped up dash-cam shots when you were driving. You can tell you put so much research into this video and I’m already looking forward to the next :)
Never went to any of the east side malls, but my mom took us to Tri-County at least once a week when it was an open air mall. Back then the anchor stores were Shillitos & Pogues. Sears came later. It was more blue collar then, with a Krogers next door to a Kresges. Not very many boutique stores; more like a Wilson Paints craft store and Fanny Farmer bakery. And the Little Pleasures head shop. 😏 Once Sears opened my mom took us there for clothes & lunch. I remember watching them tear down the pine trees on the south side of Kemper road from the Sears diner, for lack of a better word. That later gave rise to Cassinelli Square. Hardly went to Northgate Mall, except to catch a movie.
Watched this a second time today (since I was distracted reading the premere chat the first time). Great overview of the area and love the pics and videos from their respective heydays.
Malls in the Cincinnati area began to decline after a local radio station conducted the infamous "Turkey bombing incident" at a local Cincinnati mall back in the 1979 holiday shopping season.
@@UniCommProductions another thing that happened while I was there was two people shouting at each other, it creeped me out, it was nice to see it but I have no need to ever go back (but hey a good deal from a Macy’s liquidation sale is always worth it lol)
Thank you for mentioning Swifton Village. The were apts with there own schools. Built for families when the men came home from the war. Also I laughed to see Anderson Towne Center. I just retired from that Kroger after 15 years. Love your videos. Thank you so much. Be safe and take care.
Awesome video - it looks like you put a lot of work into this. I've lived in Cincinnati for the better part of 20 years, and have been to quite a few of these malls. Looking forward to the next installment!
There's probably every bit of 30-40 hours worth of work on display here, and production for the second episode is well underway. Thanks for taking a look!
I'm not sure how big Cincinnati is but I live in the Phoenix AZ area which is way bigger and doesn't seem to have nearly as many malls (although we do have a lot of big box shopping centers and a few malls that were closed or demolished 20-30 years ago). Also the sunset footage halfway through the video is absolutely beautiful. Great job!
Thank you! Our metro population is about 1.7 million as of last year, so we would be considered a "small city"--out of the 20 malls that will be covered in the series only 6 are still operating as enclosed shopping centers, out of the 6 only two are doing "well", a third is struggling, and the other 3 are firmly in the "dead mall" category.
This overmalled series reminds of the mall’s In Birmingham Alabama, you have a boom in building. Then at some point it’s like Megladon sharks chasing prey that disappears from the menu then they start dying off. I guess it’s a dark observation but your overmalled is accurate 🧐
Columbus definitely suffered from the same problem to a lesser degree. Dayton, oddly, managed to avoid it. They only ever had three and two are still standing.
Wow! There is so much I enjoyed with this that I don’t know where to begin. It brought back a flood of memories. Those print and TV advertisements contemporary to the time were a hoot as I was there the first time. And I loved that you enveloped the “Amazon e-Retail Apocalypse” lead-in inside that Sony Trinitron television. That TV set was the cat’s meow of technical innovation back in its day. Where-on-earth did you find that Tri County Sidewalk Sale advertisement? It is fabulous documentation of the goofy-looking, add-on gable roof structure they built in 1968 to enclose the original, open-air Tri County Mall. Frankly, I had almost forgotten about the long-gone Swifton Center. It was a nice little mall without any pretentiousness. But unless you lived in or around Cincinnati you’d never know it was there, even though it was located barely one mile from I-75. Swifton stayed active for some time but, as you mentioned, the closing of the Norwood GM Assembly Plant in the late 1980’s followed by the massive layoffs at GE Aviation in the early 1990’s ultimately dealt it a double-tap death blow. I think your selection of 1956 as the starting year for this series is significant in another manner. I believe the Interstate Highway System, that President Eisenhower signed into law in 1956, is inexorably intertwined with both the success and failure of these Cincinnati malls, too. Even prior to 1956, the Kenwood Plaza developers would have had significant insight to the location of the, as yet, unplanned and unbuilt I-71. There had been active discussion for years, before and after WWII, for a “Northeast Expressway” to connect Cincinnati to Columbus. It would not have taken much knowledge to estimate the path of this new expressway. Basically, the new highway simply had to parallel Montgomery Rd. (U.S. 22) and completely avoid the wealthy community of Indian Hills. The concept for this expressway gained additional momentum as the northern Ohio Turnpike was completed in 1955. The first section of I-71 to open was between I-270 in Columbus and a point within Hamilton County near the Warren County line. This stretch was dedicated in October 1964 before any construction began in Cincinnati within the nonexistent I-275 loop. The first stretch OF I-71 to open closer to Cincinnati was (surprise, surprise…) from I-275 to Kenwood Rd. in December of 1969. I believe the small saving grace Swifton Center had going in its favor was that it was built closer to (but not visible from) I-75. Its proximity to I-75 probably kept Swifton going a bit longer than its modest open-air design would have permitted at any other location around the city. As you mentioned, the developers built Swifton Center on nearby U.S. 42 because at that time it was still the main thoroughfare in and out of northern Cincinnati in 1956. At that location it maintained close proximity between the established northern suburbs and the newly constructed post-WWII suburbs. The Swifton developers likely could not find property closer to I-75 because most all of that land had already been developed for industrial use along the old Mill Creek Expressway. Starting in 1956, the Mill Creek Expressway and surrounding properties would be appropriated by the Feds to build I-75 for the new Interstate Highway System. That segment of I-75 through northern Cincinnati, that the Swifton Center was close to, has its own convoluted history. In particular, the section of I-75 from Glendale-Milford Road south to Hartwell is a recycled relic left over from WWII. This portion of I-75 was hastily constructed in 1941 to provide access to the Wright Aeronautical Plant (now GE Aviation) that built radial piston engines for B29 bombers used in WWII. Keep in mind that back in 1941 the Evendale/Sharonville area was nothing but open farm fields. The large bomber engine plant was constructed there due to concerns that Nazi Germany would successfully develop a long-range bomber during the war. It was hoped that placing the plant in that isolated location might at least deter the Luftwaffe from bombing downtown Cincinnati. The Mill Creek Expressway, as the wartime highway eventually became known, is now the southbound lane of I-75. That is the reason for the infamous “Lockland Split” when it was integrated into the Interstate Highway System. Most of I-75 through northern Cincinnati was built along the path of the old Miami-Erie canal, which fell into disuse by the late 1800's. The canal path encouraged industrial business development next to its right-of-way. This is why there was little property available for commercial retail establishments along I-75 in the 20thcentury. That is also why driving I-75 north of downtown Cincinnati is often a harrowing, white-knuckle experience. You’re driving modern vehicles at high speed essentially along a canal path where the average speed of a Miami-Erie canal boat was about 4 miles-per-hour. Western Woods Mall and Beechmont Mall were built along major state roads east and west of the city. However, they had the additional problem when they were constructed in that no one really knew exactly where I-275 would be eventually be sited. Construction began on I-275 in 1958 but its completion still lay more than two decades into the future. The highway path was planned, delayed and re-planned several times through the 1960’s due to the exorbitant costs necessary to build the eventual 86 miles of Interstate Highway circling Cincinnati. All of the initial work on I-275 was completed on the northern Ohio side, but even that progress was painfully slow going. The first portion of I-275 opened to traffic in 1962 from Route 4 only to US 42. By 1973, travel on I-275 was still confined to between Colerain Ave. and Montgomery Rd. The Feds didn’t began acquiring the southern land for the I-275 roads and bridge approaches from Ohio into Kentucky until 1968. The I-275 highway wasn’t fully completed and open to traffic until late 1979. The slow progress on the southern side was due to the considerable feats of civil and mechanical engineering required to both construct two Ohio River bridge crossings and plow through the undulating terrain in northern Kentucky. The locations where Western Woods Mall and Beechmont Mall were sighted made sense in their day. Unfortunately, they completely missed the mark for any future Interstate access. Intertwined with the Cincinnati region being over-malled, their complete lack of Interstate highway access ultimately sealed the fate of these small malls. Conversely, the developers of Tri County Mall and Kenwood Mall had the luxury of knowing EXACTLY where I-275 and I-71 would be constructed which enabled their increased lifespans. This is a great series that you have created. I am typically not of an anti-development mindset but the issue you’re addressing here is not a new problem. I’ve thought for years that there should have been some sort of moratorium with public hearings and debate in Ohio on all new mall development and construction ever since the 1980’s. Especially after the notorious Cincinnati Mall/Cincinnati Mills fiasco that you have previously documented so well. The newer, so-called “lifestyle centers” cause me to chafe over these exact concerns, too. If for no other reason than that all-year, open-air mall shopping really only functions well in a very few specific market regions in the United States. To offer an example, one would likely have a delightful time open-air shopping in Santa Barbara, California during the month of February. However, open-air shopping in Cincinnati, Ohio during the same month will assuredly not be the same pleasant experience. There was a reason that goofy-looking gable roof was slapped on top of the original open-air Tri County Mall and that Kenwood Plaza was completely enclosed when it metamorphized into Kenwood Towne Center. But alas, we seemingly must relive history, again and again, rather than learning from it. My apologies for the lengthy diatribe but I am excited about this and the coming episodes you have planned. A brilliant and fabulous effort!
I am so glad you enjoyed it, and THANK YOU for the wealth of information you've presented here. Nearly all the photos came from a deep search of the Enquirer and Post archives--including the full page ad for Tri County's President's Day Sale (although I really wish I had photos of the pre-remodel interior--my earliest memory was when they still had the doors open but the remodel was in full swing, some sort of adhesive they were using had this weird fruity-chemical smell like banana taffy, which is a really vivid memory.). I remember my mom telling me that they had to drive all the way down Kemper to get to Tri County before the highway was built (and this would have been the late 60s early 70s--my parents are young Boomers). I really don't know what they're thinking with this "lifestyle center" concept. So far, two dead malls in town have already been converted and two more (Tri County and Northgate) have occasional murmurings of conversion to them as well. The north side of town doesn't need any new shopping--there's way more vacancy than there should be in Liberty Center for it being so new, Bridgewater Falls, whatever that one on Colerain Ave is called etc etc. You don't solve a problem of overdevelopment by replacing them with too many of something else. I found it really interesting that there's been so much consolidation with department stores--there was much more variety back in the 70s and 80s (Shillito, Rikes, LS Ayres, Mabley and Carew, Sears, JC Penney, Pogues) and by the time we reached the early part of this century every single mall had started to feel so samey with the Sears-JCP-Macys trifecta. It's probably worth pointing out none of those 3 are doing particularly well, with Sears being in its death throes and JCP not far behind it.
Actually. I live not even 5 minutes away from Anderson Township. I remember when that Kmart was taken down. Sad. And my Mom remembers the old Beachmont Mall. Although I don't. I was born in 06'. Even now. My dad always goes to that Krogers for groceries. Anderson Township is indeed a different plaza. But it's my stomping ground.
@@UniCommProductions Wow! And honestly. It's so amazing to hear someone talk in so much detail about somewhere I've been since around 15 years ago! It's honestly a great feeling knowing there is someone else (who uses CZcams) that remembers a place that I know all too well. Love this Series. Keep up the good work.
Great History! Looking at it now you can see how developers just had no CLUE of what the future was going to be. Same mistakes in most rust belt cities.
I have to wonder how well mall owners and management maintained their malls' physical structures while closed for a period of time during the COVID-19 pandemic. Were tenants typically required to continue paying rent during that time?
I’m not sure, I remember reading that Simon malls were still requiring rent. The smaller guys were probably a tad more lenient but I haven’t done much reading on the subject.
I love all your vids..i love all the history of the malls,etc. i worked in kenwood towne center with verizon, same with tri county mall and eastgate mall during the 2000's/ same with toys r us in springdale during late 90s. love your content..drop me a line, love to talk.
DOES ANYONE HAVE FILM, VIDEO, PICTURES, NEWS REPORTS, GRAND OPENING VIDEO REPORTS OF SWIFTON SHOPPING CENTER, CINCINNATI GARDENS FROM THEIR BEGINNINGS THROUGH THE 1970s? IF SO, PLEASE POST. ALSO, VIDEO OF DOWNTOWN CINCINNATI OHIO VALLEY KOOL JAZZ FESTIVAL GOERS FROM LATE 60s TO LATE 70s? PLEASE POST.
When we get to the next episodes you start to see that especially around the NW corner of the 275 loop (i.e. Tri County, Northgate, and later Forest Fair) was maybe the worst for building way way too many. Did you know there were two other enclosed malls within 2 miles of Tri County in the early 80s?
@@UniCommProductions yep. I remember going up there during the late '80s early '90s and you couldn't drive for a few miles while hitting another mall. My family was over on the Dayton side of Kentucky and then up in Mariemont.
Great video, is western woods mall complex still standing? I’ve never even heard of that mall. You keep finding all these malls that I’ve never heard of and last time I made an entire day out of going up to Middletown mall to check that out. Took us 30 mins to figure out how to get inside😂 keep up the good work.
The only part of the old Western Woods Mall that is still standing is the former Shillitos building which has been vacant since 2018. It was weird, they basically tore down all the hallways and replaced them with a Home Depot.
What killed the mall? Sears predated the mall and malls thrived while Sears thrived. In my opinion, malls were just another market bubble. Bubbles burst. The more the bubble inflates, the more rapid the burst.
If you haven’t made it through the series yet, you’ll find I get to a similar thesis. I often characterize what we are going through as a sort of “market correction” in response to an over-availability of shopping.
Great video. You put a lot of research in to it. Looking forward to your next one. The Orange Park Mall in Florida near Jacksonville has been closed for almost 2 months. The Sears just closed for good and JC Penny just filed for bankruptcy. Two empty anchors store spaces is not going to be good for the immediate future. There is a movie theater that normally fills the huge parking lot.
@@UniCommProductions Yes, I believe so. Monday 18 May 20 is the open date. Restaurants 50% and most other stores will open. Bars, taverns, and other establishments that serve alcohol are still on the closed list.
When I was a kid at Kenwood I remembered the movie theater used to be right next to the food court and there was another one and I remember it used to be where Texas Roadhouse and whole food store is located.
The one that was across the street was very old-school, the theaters were huge and had a balcony! I went there to see Fantasia when I was maybe 8-9? (It was re-released in theaters for some milestone anniversary?)
They largest mall in Philly was opened in 1987 and for first few years was the most visited site in Philly. Often would have 10 to 12 tour busses parked out back but have not seen a tour bus there in over 10 years. 3 of the anchor or stores are closed. They spent a lot of money on a remodel 5 years ago and now lucky if they have 25% of the foot traffic.Had two food courts now down to halve of one. After the remodel they shot themselves in the foot and due to huge jump in rent they chased out a busy bed Bath & Beyond and a McDonalds. Can remember going to the mall on a Friday or Saturday night and food court & stores were loaded with teenagers but no longer.
Worked at Anderson Kroger for 15 years. After Kmart closed the mall is a hodge podge of specialty and junk. Not a big deal. Kroger and Macy's keep it going. Myself I have no use for anything else there. Sad we are going backwards in my way of thinking.
There's definitely a less social feel at Anderson these days. People are there to get what they need and get out, no lingering or spending time. It is sort of sad.
I’m just now seeing this and with how many are struggling (except maybe people who are swimming in money these days) to make ends meet much less some of us who struggle daily and weekly,… it wouldn’t suprise me if these places only got busy or them making their sea etc during Christmas, valentines, sweetest day etc. Unfortunately people are still struggling big time from epidemic and for some really off best reason prices everywhere including gas prices continue to go up. The most common question for all these things is how do they expect us(a lot of us that do struggle) to go anywhere with gas prices go up, and how do they expect us who struggle to buy things with all prices in stores nearly if not everywhere continue to rise? And a question for the stores and gas stations themselves how do they expect to get that money they need to make? I’m just very very confused by how things are now days. Not many of us can go anywhere do anything these days unless it’s the rich people/families. It’s pretty unfair. I love the background of this video love that turquoise/teal flower background. Awesome job on this and how you did the video ☺️
Hey, update on Tri-county mall! Garbage collection has been suspended by Rumpke. The outbuildings are now using Republic because of unpaid bills. The lot is presently full of garbage in the exterior parking lots. It is heartbreaking. I can’t even get the city to call me back. Please help if you can at all. An update on your end would be greatly appreciated. God bless and Merry Christmas!🎁
Malls of the 60s & 70s were a downgrade from walkable urban mixed-use commercial strips. "Open air lifestyle complex"s are a step (or many steps) below that. Let's demand more as humans, to not be treated as consumer bots. As someone who grew up in Anderson, that place is everything I hate about car culture development.
Oof. Anderson is a master class in what not to do in urban planning. It’s a maze of driveways and parking lots. It’s so car-centric over there that anyone seen walking not accompanied by a dog or wearing matchy-matchy activewear gets treated with suspicion.
I don't, because Cincinnati has some very spastic weather (it's raining cats and dogs as we speak)...I think my biggest issue with them is they're being portrayed as "this could be a successful concept!" to cure all malls' woes when they're successful because they're a) new (the next episode has an analysis of the power of "new") and b) as of yet we arent oversaturated with them, but man, they are TRYING to make that oversaturation thing happen. You don't solve the problem of there being too many of a thing by building too many of something else.
More like dead malls. Boring malls. Over priced malls. Over priced junk foods in the mall. Yes at one time Kenwood mall was the place to shop ( late 70's & early 80's). Eastgate mall, was the same. Not anymore. Too many other places to shop to get the same items, at a cheaper price. Not being over crowded with people, spills, & crying children.
Well, yes. Please don’t misunderstand and think I don’t realize modern malls have a lot of problems-I do, which is part of the reason I made the series I did...there were and still are at least double the number that would have been successful. Even you yourself acknowledge that a lot of these places were the place to be a few years back, and as a result people do have fond memories of them. My goal with my series has always been to memorialize peoples’ experiences...but not to idolize them to a point where you can’t see how problematic they can be.
I would really encourage you to watch the remainder of the series because the criticism comes when we reach the era where they began to collapse in on themselves
this is wonderful. you have a great voice for this kind of format. good job!!
OH MY GOD ITS YOU! Thank you thank you thank you for watching my videos! I am literally about to cry right now.
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Loving this so far. Growing up, my mother was a retail clerk; in my extreme youth, she worked at a small upscale clothing store (they had their own on-site tailor, from whom I learned an interest in the craft) in the Tri-County Mall; she left that job after one of my sisters was born, but I remember hanging out in the store often, in what would have been the late '80s. After a few years, she then took work at Bigg's in what was then Forest Fair Mall; again, I was often brought along, and got to hang out in this mall in my tween years. After a bit, she left there and started working at Linens 'n' Things in the then recently-remodeled Sycamore Plaza; I'd always go to Barnes and Noble during this era, as it was generally during my high school days. So, it's neat to see a presented history of these places where I literally grew up.
This has cost you a lot of research. Excellent !
Worth it! Thank you so much for watching
At 11:50 you can see the old skylights over the long-gone interior hallways (at a slight angle to the rest of the building) that have since been covered with brown shingles.
Oh wow good eye! Thanks for pointing that out.
This was AWESOME Unicomm! You should do an overmalled series for Kansas City and Columbia, South Carolina.
This video was amazing. I'm looking forward to the next one!
More to come! The story only gets crazier as it goes on
I recently got a piece of the Western Woods Mall for my personal collection (one of the street light fixtures seen at 8:30) it's fascinating how much our society has changed in only the last few decades and a great example are the once-grand shopping centers becoming nothing in only a short matter of time.
That is a really cool find!!
Subbed! Can't wait to see the rest of the series. I spent a lot of my youth working and hanging at various malls around Cincinnati.
We probably crossed paths a few times!
Thanks for the information! I've lived around Cincinnati all my life. I've visited all these locations over the years but did not know all the history!
I lived in Cincinnati for 37 years and I found a lot of this stuff researching for this documentary! We were definitely a “mall family” but no one seemed to remember that kind of stuff
Great video. Overmalling played a huge role in what so many malls failed. Did we ever really need 5 malls within a 10 mile radius? No we didn't. I can't imagine what these developers were thinking back then, what a waste of land, money and resources. :/
Awesome vid! You’ve hit this one out of the park. I haven’t seen any other dead mall post that’s gone this route. Having the background and the wider perspective really sets this apart. Thanks!
Thank you Doug--I have been mulling this concept around in my head for about a year, and finally decided to go for it!
Spent my high school years in Cincinnati, lived across the river in Northern Kentucky. Definitely took part in many weekend trips to Kenwood Town Center, and later as an early 20's kid, frequented Bourbon Street taking over Forest Fair Mall (loved the kinetic ball display in the middle of that). I lived across the way from Crestview Hills Mall, which I believe was dead by late 80's - one anchor lived as a McAlpin's, and the mall itself had a handful of stores open including an Orange Julius. Florence Y'ALL was my regular.
LOVE this! I read an article after the 2008 financial crisis analyzing a study done by Credit Suisse that concluded....wait for it...We were overmalled. Mall deaths and the loss of the mall culture is a deeply unfortunate side effect of the inevitable correction that follows a bubble. Online retail hasn’t played as much of a role as everyone loves to think. Thank you for this, Kristin!
I'm working on the next episode now which really is when the dam started to break--not only did we have too many malls but they started to rapidly increase in size via remodels. Thank YOU for watching!
The St Louis metro area, had the same issue - too many malls and a declining population due to the loss of high paying aerospace and auto manufacturing jobs.
I lived in the greater Cincinnati area for four years of undergrad and have visited many of the malls! Very entertaining video and clearly an impressive amount of research.
Very cool! I'm always very glad when I get comments like this from people who have lived here! Thank you very much!
With every video, I'm continually impressed by the great production of these videos. Excellent editing, narration, and flow of content. It's the kind of video you don't realize you've spent 15+ minutes watching until it ends.
LOVE THIS
I saw every bit of that as a child growing up in the 50s and 60s there was supposed to be a mall built in Lebanon Ohio on State Route 48 that was going to be more expensive than Kenwood Mall then the financial crisis hit and that was the end of the project
Awesome production!!
This was a nice look at the early years of the retail shopping center and mall history, in Cincinnati. Can't wait for the next chapters, of this. When I looked up a satellite image of Swifton Commons, it made me sad that the only thing that has been built where that used to stand, was a church. Hopefully other things are eventually built there, on that former site. I guess there have been a few proposals to redevelop that site besides the construction of that church, and nothing has been agreed on yet?
It's a struggling area, and I think it's a matter of trying to figure out what will be profitable vs what is actually good for the residents is a difficult balance. The city still owns it; the last unveiled plans were suggesting something similar to Summit Park in Blue Ash, OH that would be a park with some retail stores and offices.
I remember the days when they had good food courts and if I remember correctly Northgate Mall used to have P.O. Boxes
I love seeing all the old malls! The suburbs of Chicago where we live is also overmalled too! You should do some malls over here sometime! Great video!
LATE BREAKING CORRECTION: While as of 2019, The Village of Indian Hill was listed by Bloomberg.com as the 11th richest neighborhood in the United States, and the highest ranking city in Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana it is not the richest neighborhood in the Midwest. It is exceeded by a couple of neighborhoods in the Chicago suburbs.
A three part series. You've got my attention. This is going to be great. Ohio seemed to be one of the most over malled states in the country ~Justin
It’s absolutely neck and neck with Pennsylvania for the top spot.
I love seeing this stuff, but I could just cry at the same time. I love that these malls went from open air malls, to enclosed malls, and now back to open air or "town center" concepts, and still poop out. Milwaukee has one of those in the suburb of GLENDALE, WI (BAYSHORE TOWN CENTER) that is going through its 3rd re-incarnation. I'd rather drive 10 minutes north to newer, better stores, with better parking and less traffic congestion.
Me too. All the old malls had so much more character than the “town center” model.
I have just discovered this channel and it is absolutely fantastic!!! Binge watching will be mine! Such thorough and well researched videos. Wow. Thank you so much for these.
Thank you so much!
Amazing production value. I love this series. Thank you.
There’s a second season coming this spring! Thank you for watching!
I grew up going to Millet Mall/Canton Center and Belden Village in the 1990s. I couldn't be paid to enter a mall in 2021.
Why not?
amazing video kristin ! cant wait for the next one ! the research is excelent !
Thank you so much! I am putting the final edits on it as we speak!
@@UniCommProductions cant wait ! 😁👍
This was my first look at your work, and I absolutely love it! Looking forward to more...thanks!
Welcome aboard! I am preparing to get out and film this week, so more is coming soon!
This video was so good! So random, but I really enjoyed the sped up dash-cam shots when you were driving. You can tell you put so much research into this video and I’m already looking forward to the next :)
Never went to any of the east side malls, but my mom took us to Tri-County at least once a week when it was an open air mall.
Back then the anchor stores were Shillitos & Pogues. Sears came later. It was more blue collar then, with a Krogers next door to a Kresges. Not very many boutique stores; more like a Wilson Paints craft store and Fanny Farmer bakery. And the Little Pleasures head shop. 😏
Once Sears opened my mom took us there for clothes & lunch. I remember watching them tear down the pine trees on the south side of Kemper road from the Sears diner, for lack of a better word. That later gave rise to Cassinelli Square.
Hardly went to Northgate Mall, except to catch a movie.
Watched this a second time today (since I was distracted reading the premere chat the first time). Great overview of the area and love the pics and videos from their respective heydays.
Glad you enjoyed it and it's flattering to know it deserved a rewatch...this was a really fun video to put together and research. I learned a lot!
Great video, Kenwood mall is one of my favorites in Cincinnati
The Apple Store is a definite draw for me!
UniComm Productions: same for me, at least when I visit Cincinnati, I’m from Cleveland, so my local apple store is at the Summit Mall in Fairlawn
COOL VIDEO AS ALWAYS KRISTEN!!!!!
Super cool comment SNAKE!!!!
@@UniCommProductions THX.👍👍!!!!!!
Malls in the Cincinnati area began to decline after a local radio station conducted the infamous "Turkey bombing incident" at a local Cincinnati mall back in the 1979 holiday shopping season.
I swear, I thought turkeys could fly!
@@UniCommProductions funniest scene in TV history.
Tri County is even more dead now that Macy’s is gone, but I loved this video, excellent job guys!
At this point it would really not surprise me if Tri County ends up closing or being redeveloped before Forest Fair.
@@UniCommProductions another thing that happened while I was there was two people shouting at each other, it creeped me out, it was nice to see it but I have no need to ever go back (but hey a good deal from a Macy’s liquidation sale is always worth it lol)
Thank you for mentioning Swifton Village. The were apts with there own schools. Built for families when the men came home from the war. Also I laughed to see Anderson Towne Center. I just retired from that Kroger after 15 years. Love your videos. Thank you so much. Be safe and take care.
Also Mr. Trump's dad owned the apts back in 70s for awhile. It was not uncommon to see him(Donald) cutting grass. Small world huh.
Hard to imagine for certain!
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I really love this series, can't wait for the next one.
Thank you so much! I have been working on it today--I'm hoping it will be even better than this one.
I grew up by Kenwood Plaza. It's a now a mall that is doing extremely well
Loved the video. Thorough research of the history. Subbed :)
My husband grew up in Kenwood and I have visited many times.
Kenwood is a very fancy mall (albeit a bit bland for my taste). It's probably going to be the last one standing.
Awesome video, cant wait for the next episode!
Very interesting!
first time I"ve ever caught a vid of yours....this was great!
Thank you, Jazzy! welcome aboard!
Awesome video - it looks like you put a lot of work into this. I've lived in Cincinnati for the better part of 20 years, and have been to quite a few of these malls. Looking forward to the next installment!
There's probably every bit of 30-40 hours worth of work on display here, and production for the second episode is well underway. Thanks for taking a look!
content gets better and better great job!!!
Thank you! Signed, Jeep Girl. :)
your welcome
Good video.Thanks for filming.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Perhaps you could do a video about Cincinnati's famous Plummet Mall?
That sounds like a great idea for the beginning of April!!
I'm not sure how big Cincinnati is but I live in the Phoenix AZ area which is way bigger and doesn't seem to have nearly as many malls (although we do have a lot of big box shopping centers and a few malls that were closed or demolished 20-30 years ago). Also the sunset footage halfway through the video is absolutely beautiful. Great job!
Thank you! Our metro population is about 1.7 million as of last year, so we would be considered a "small city"--out of the 20 malls that will be covered in the series only 6 are still operating as enclosed shopping centers, out of the 6 only two are doing "well", a third is struggling, and the other 3 are firmly in the "dead mall" category.
This overmalled series reminds of the mall’s In Birmingham Alabama, you have a boom in building. Then at some point it’s like Megladon sharks chasing prey that disappears from the menu then they start dying off. I guess it’s a dark observation but your overmalled is accurate 🧐
Wow and I thought Columbus had to many malls ..great vid
Columbus definitely suffered from the same problem to a lesser degree. Dayton, oddly, managed to avoid it. They only ever had three and two are still standing.
Wow! There is so much I enjoyed with this that I don’t know where to begin. It brought back a flood of memories.
Those print and TV advertisements contemporary to the time were a hoot as I was there the first time. And I loved that you enveloped the “Amazon e-Retail Apocalypse” lead-in inside that Sony Trinitron television. That TV set was the cat’s meow of technical innovation back in its day.
Where-on-earth did you find that Tri County Sidewalk Sale advertisement? It is fabulous documentation of the goofy-looking, add-on gable roof structure they built in 1968 to enclose the original, open-air Tri County Mall.
Frankly, I had almost forgotten about the long-gone Swifton Center. It was a nice little mall without any pretentiousness. But unless you lived in or around Cincinnati you’d never know it was there, even though it was located barely one mile from I-75.
Swifton stayed active for some time but, as you mentioned, the closing of the Norwood GM Assembly Plant in the late 1980’s followed by the massive layoffs at GE Aviation in the early 1990’s ultimately dealt it a double-tap death blow.
I think your selection of 1956 as the starting year for this series is significant in another manner. I believe the Interstate Highway System, that President Eisenhower signed into law in 1956, is inexorably intertwined with both the success and failure of these Cincinnati malls, too.
Even prior to 1956, the Kenwood Plaza developers would have had significant insight to the location of the, as yet, unplanned and unbuilt I-71. There had been active discussion for years, before and after WWII, for a “Northeast Expressway” to connect Cincinnati to Columbus. It would not have taken much knowledge to estimate the path of this new expressway. Basically, the new highway simply had to parallel Montgomery Rd. (U.S. 22) and completely avoid the wealthy community of Indian Hills. The concept for this expressway gained additional momentum as the northern Ohio Turnpike was completed in 1955.
The first section of I-71 to open was between I-270 in Columbus and a point within Hamilton County near the Warren County line. This stretch was dedicated in October 1964 before any construction began in Cincinnati within the nonexistent I-275 loop. The first stretch OF I-71 to open closer to Cincinnati was (surprise, surprise…) from I-275 to Kenwood Rd. in December of 1969.
I believe the small saving grace Swifton Center had going in its favor was that it was built closer to (but not visible from) I-75. Its proximity to I-75 probably kept Swifton going a bit longer than its modest open-air design would have permitted at any other location around the city.
As you mentioned, the developers built Swifton Center on nearby U.S. 42 because at that time it was still the main thoroughfare in and out of northern Cincinnati in 1956. At that location it maintained close proximity between the established northern suburbs and the newly constructed post-WWII suburbs.
The Swifton developers likely could not find property closer to I-75 because most all of that land had already been developed for industrial use along the old Mill Creek Expressway. Starting in 1956, the Mill Creek Expressway and surrounding properties would be appropriated by the Feds to build I-75 for the new Interstate Highway System.
That segment of I-75 through northern Cincinnati, that the Swifton Center was close to, has its own convoluted history. In particular, the section of I-75 from Glendale-Milford Road south to Hartwell is a recycled relic left over from WWII. This portion of I-75 was hastily constructed in 1941 to provide access to the Wright Aeronautical Plant (now GE Aviation) that built radial piston engines for B29 bombers used in WWII.
Keep in mind that back in 1941 the Evendale/Sharonville area was nothing but open farm fields. The large bomber engine plant was constructed there due to concerns that Nazi Germany would successfully develop a long-range bomber during the war. It was hoped that placing the plant in that isolated location might at least deter the Luftwaffe from bombing downtown Cincinnati.
The Mill Creek Expressway, as the wartime highway eventually became known, is now the southbound lane of I-75. That is the reason for the infamous “Lockland Split” when it was integrated into the Interstate Highway System.
Most of I-75 through northern Cincinnati was built along the path of the old Miami-Erie canal, which fell into disuse by the late 1800's. The canal path encouraged industrial business development next to its right-of-way. This is why there was little property available for commercial retail establishments along I-75 in the 20thcentury.
That is also why driving I-75 north of downtown Cincinnati is often a harrowing, white-knuckle experience. You’re driving modern vehicles at high speed essentially along a canal path where the average speed of a Miami-Erie canal boat was about 4 miles-per-hour.
Western Woods Mall and Beechmont Mall were built along major state roads east and west of the city. However, they had the additional problem when they were constructed in that no one really knew exactly where I-275 would be eventually be sited.
Construction began on I-275 in 1958 but its completion still lay more than two decades into the future. The highway path was planned, delayed and re-planned several times through the 1960’s due to the exorbitant costs necessary to build the eventual 86 miles of Interstate Highway circling Cincinnati.
All of the initial work on I-275 was completed on the northern Ohio side, but even that progress was painfully slow going. The first portion of I-275 opened to traffic in 1962 from Route 4 only to US 42. By 1973, travel on I-275 was still confined to between Colerain Ave. and Montgomery Rd.
The Feds didn’t began acquiring the southern land for the I-275 roads and bridge approaches from Ohio into Kentucky until 1968. The I-275 highway wasn’t fully completed and open to traffic until late 1979. The slow progress on the southern side was due to the considerable feats of civil and mechanical engineering required to both construct two Ohio River bridge crossings and plow through the undulating terrain in northern Kentucky.
The locations where Western Woods Mall and Beechmont Mall were sighted made sense in their day. Unfortunately, they completely missed the mark for any future Interstate access. Intertwined with the Cincinnati region being over-malled, their complete lack of Interstate highway access ultimately sealed the fate of these small malls.
Conversely, the developers of Tri County Mall and Kenwood Mall had the luxury of knowing EXACTLY where I-275 and I-71 would be constructed which enabled their increased lifespans.
This is a great series that you have created. I am typically not of an anti-development mindset but the issue you’re addressing here is not a new problem. I’ve thought for years that there should have been some sort of moratorium with public hearings and debate in Ohio on all new mall development and construction ever since the 1980’s. Especially after the notorious Cincinnati Mall/Cincinnati Mills fiasco that you have previously documented so well.
The newer, so-called “lifestyle centers” cause me to chafe over these exact concerns, too. If for no other reason than that all-year, open-air mall shopping really only functions well in a very few specific market regions in the United States.
To offer an example, one would likely have a delightful time open-air shopping in Santa Barbara, California during the month of February. However, open-air shopping in Cincinnati, Ohio during the same month will assuredly not be the same pleasant experience.
There was a reason that goofy-looking gable roof was slapped on top of the original open-air Tri County Mall and that Kenwood Plaza was completely enclosed when it metamorphized into Kenwood Towne Center. But alas, we seemingly must relive history, again and again, rather than learning from it.
My apologies for the lengthy diatribe but I am excited about this and the coming episodes you have planned.
A brilliant and fabulous effort!
I am so glad you enjoyed it, and THANK YOU for the wealth of information you've presented here. Nearly all the photos came from a deep search of the Enquirer and Post archives--including the full page ad for Tri County's President's Day Sale (although I really wish I had photos of the pre-remodel interior--my earliest memory was when they still had the doors open but the remodel was in full swing, some sort of adhesive they were using had this weird fruity-chemical smell like banana taffy, which is a really vivid memory.). I remember my mom telling me that they had to drive all the way down Kemper to get to Tri County before the highway was built (and this would have been the late 60s early 70s--my parents are young Boomers).
I really don't know what they're thinking with this "lifestyle center" concept. So far, two dead malls in town have already been converted and two more (Tri County and Northgate) have occasional murmurings of conversion to them as well. The north side of town doesn't need any new shopping--there's way more vacancy than there should be in Liberty Center for it being so new, Bridgewater Falls, whatever that one on Colerain Ave is called etc etc. You don't solve a problem of overdevelopment by replacing them with too many of something else.
I found it really interesting that there's been so much consolidation with department stores--there was much more variety back in the 70s and 80s (Shillito, Rikes, LS Ayres, Mabley and Carew, Sears, JC Penney, Pogues) and by the time we reached the early part of this century every single mall had started to feel so samey with the Sears-JCP-Macys trifecta. It's probably worth pointing out none of those 3 are doing particularly well, with Sears being in its death throes and JCP not far behind it.
Yeah my grandparents lived in Indian hill for years. not to mention blue ash and and kenwood are all upscaled.
Actually. I live not even 5 minutes away from Anderson Township. I remember when that Kmart was taken down. Sad. And my Mom remembers the old Beachmont Mall. Although I don't. I was born in 06'. Even now. My dad always goes to that Krogers for groceries. Anderson Township is indeed a different plaza. But it's my stomping ground.
Hey it sounds like we used to practically be neighbors! (I moved out of state last year but the Anderson Kroger was 'my' store too!)
@@UniCommProductions Wow! And honestly. It's so amazing to hear someone talk in so much detail about somewhere I've been since around 15 years ago! It's honestly a great feeling knowing there is someone else (who uses CZcams) that remembers a place that I know all too well.
Love this Series. Keep up the good work.
Great History! Looking at it now you can see how developers just had no CLUE of what the future was going to be. Same mistakes in most rust belt cities.
None of us saw it coming.
I have to wonder how well mall owners and management maintained their malls' physical structures while closed for a period of time during the COVID-19 pandemic. Were tenants typically required to continue paying rent during that time?
I’m not sure, I remember reading that Simon malls were still requiring rent. The smaller guys were probably a tad more lenient but I haven’t done much reading on the subject.
I love all your vids..i love all the history of the malls,etc. i worked in kenwood towne center with verizon, same with tri county mall and eastgate mall during the 2000's/ same with toys r us in springdale during late 90s. love your content..drop me a line, love to talk.
We probably crossed paths a few times I worked at The Icing in Kenwood Towne Center for a little while around the same time!
DOES ANYONE HAVE FILM, VIDEO, PICTURES, NEWS REPORTS, GRAND OPENING VIDEO REPORTS OF SWIFTON SHOPPING CENTER, CINCINNATI GARDENS FROM THEIR BEGINNINGS THROUGH THE 1970s? IF SO, PLEASE POST. ALSO, VIDEO OF DOWNTOWN CINCINNATI OHIO VALLEY KOOL JAZZ FESTIVAL GOERS FROM LATE 60s TO LATE 70s? PLEASE POST.
I even remember when JC penny in Northgate used to have a restaurant above the entrance on the 2nd floor.
Family was from Cincinnati I miss a lot of the old malls in the layout but I can see why they kind of collapsed as business moved around the city.
When we get to the next episodes you start to see that especially around the NW corner of the 275 loop (i.e. Tri County, Northgate, and later Forest Fair) was maybe the worst for building way way too many. Did you know there were two other enclosed malls within 2 miles of Tri County in the early 80s?
@@UniCommProductions yep. I remember going up there during the late '80s early '90s and you couldn't drive for a few miles while hitting another mall. My family was over on the Dayton side of Kentucky and then up in Mariemont.
Great video, is western woods mall complex still standing? I’ve never even heard of that mall. You keep finding all these malls that I’ve never heard of and last time I made an entire day out of going up to Middletown mall to check that out. Took us 30 mins to figure out how to get inside😂 keep up the good work.
The only part of the old Western Woods Mall that is still standing is the former Shillitos building which has been vacant since 2018. It was weird, they basically tore down all the hallways and replaced them with a Home Depot.
Very interesting video, love it
Glad you enjoyed it, Mark. Thanks for giving us a shot!
What killed the mall? Sears predated the mall and malls thrived while Sears thrived. In my opinion, malls were just another market bubble. Bubbles burst. The more the bubble inflates, the more rapid the burst.
If you haven’t made it through the series yet, you’ll find I get to a similar thesis. I often characterize what we are going through as a sort of “market correction” in response to an over-availability of shopping.
@@UniCommProductions Just finished Episode 1
Great video. You put a lot of research in to it. Looking forward to your next one. The Orange Park Mall in Florida near Jacksonville has been closed for almost 2 months. The Sears just closed for good and JC Penny just filed for bankruptcy. Two empty anchors store spaces is not going to be good for the immediate future. There is a movie theater that normally fills the huge parking lot.
Is the mall reopening when the state allows it?
@@UniCommProductions Yes, I believe so. Monday 18 May 20 is the open date. Restaurants 50% and most other stores will open. Bars, taverns, and other establishments that serve alcohol are still on the closed list.
When I was a kid at Kenwood I remembered the movie theater used to be right next to the food court and there was another one and I remember it used to be where Texas Roadhouse and whole food store is located.
The one that was across the street was very old-school, the theaters were huge and had a balcony! I went there to see Fantasia when I was maybe 8-9? (It was re-released in theaters for some milestone anniversary?)
UniComm Productions the special movie I’ll always remember seeing at that one was “Groundhog’s Day”
They largest mall in Philly was opened in 1987 and for first few years was the most visited site in Philly. Often would have 10 to 12 tour busses parked out back but have not seen a tour bus there in over 10 years. 3 of the anchor or stores are closed. They spent a lot of money on a remodel 5 years ago and now lucky if they have 25% of the foot traffic.Had two food courts now down to halve of one. After the remodel they shot themselves in the foot and due to huge jump in rent they chased out a busy bed Bath & Beyond and a McDonalds. Can remember going to the mall on a Friday or Saturday night and food court & stores were loaded with teenagers but no longer.
Amazing!!
Worked at Anderson Kroger for 15 years. After Kmart closed the mall is a hodge podge of specialty and junk. Not a big deal. Kroger and Macy's keep it going. Myself I have no use for anything else there. Sad we are going backwards in my way of thinking.
Also thank you for including Swifton. It was a place I went to as I grew up in Norwood. A town Fisher Body built and later almost destroyed.
There's definitely a less social feel at Anderson these days. People are there to get what they need and get out, no lingering or spending time. It is sort of sad.
I’m just now seeing this and with how many are struggling (except maybe people who are swimming in money these days) to make ends meet much less some of us who struggle daily and weekly,… it wouldn’t suprise me if these places only got busy or them making their sea etc during Christmas, valentines, sweetest day etc. Unfortunately people are still struggling big time from epidemic and for some really off best reason prices everywhere including gas prices continue to go up. The most common question for all these things is how do they expect us(a lot of us that do struggle) to go anywhere with gas prices go up, and how do they expect us who struggle to buy things with all prices in stores nearly if not everywhere continue to rise? And a question for the stores and gas stations themselves how do they expect to get that money they need to make? I’m just very very confused by how things are now days. Not many of us can go anywhere do anything these days unless it’s the rich people/families. It’s pretty unfair. I love the background of this video love that turquoise/teal flower background. Awesome job on this and how you did the video ☺️
I hope you watched parts 2 and 3: I go into a lot of the points you make, which are accurate!
Is that a new Jeep? I only remember seeing the inside shots in your earlier videos. By the way I still miss those driving shots.
They make a triumphant return in the next video! We’ve had this car since late 2018 but it hasn’t made an appearance from the outside prior to now
@@UniCommProductions Can't wait, I love the humor parts of your otherwise serious and well documented videos.
Hey, update on Tri-county mall! Garbage collection has been suspended by Rumpke. The outbuildings are now using Republic because of unpaid bills. The lot is presently full of garbage in the exterior parking lots. It is heartbreaking. I can’t even get the city to call me back. Please help if you can at all. An update on your end would be greatly appreciated. God bless and Merry Christmas!🎁
That IS Heartbreaking. I was so optimistic it wouldn’t sit the way it apparently is.
@@UniCommProductions any suggestions?
KTC was awful getting in and out of when I was still living in Cincy 15 years ago. Especially christmas.
It’s still pretty bad. Since they put that other big complex out looking over 71 and put all the restaurants out front it’s a mess.
Malls of the 60s & 70s were a downgrade from walkable urban mixed-use commercial strips. "Open air lifestyle complex"s are a step (or many steps) below that. Let's demand more as humans, to not be treated as consumer bots. As someone who grew up in Anderson, that place is everything I hate about car culture development.
Oof. Anderson is a master class in what not to do in urban planning. It’s a maze of driveways and parking lots. It’s so car-centric over there that anyone seen walking not accompanied by a dog or wearing matchy-matchy activewear gets treated with suspicion.
Great video! To all interested in this topic I pose this question; Do you really enjoy the "open-air" shopping experience better, and why?
I don't, because Cincinnati has some very spastic weather (it's raining cats and dogs as we speak)...I think my biggest issue with them is they're being portrayed as "this could be a successful concept!" to cure all malls' woes when they're successful because they're a) new (the next episode has an analysis of the power of "new") and b) as of yet we arent oversaturated with them, but man, they are TRYING to make that oversaturation thing happen. You don't solve the problem of there being too many of a thing by building too many of something else.
No I don’t, I like the closed malls better
This should be titled Overmalled Ohio, not just Cincinnati.
There are an awful lot more malls in Ohio that weren’t included, I’m not sure why that should be
Oh no only 1 apple store in Cincy?
Yep, it’s at Kenwood Towne Centre
What day does episode 2 come out?
I am shooting for next week during the DMOD watch party!
Swifton was one of Donald Trump's first real estate projects outside the NYC area.
I don't know if you've been yet but you didn't talk about cincinnati mills!
Oh I absolutely have! I have done three stand alone videos about it. (And it’s in the third episode of Overmalled too!)
@@UniCommProductions love your vids can't wait to go back to cincinnati to check out some of the malls you've posted keep up the good work!!!!!
Thank you!!!
gasoline
You missed a few.
There are two more episodes!
skating rink, anyone?
More like dead malls. Boring malls. Over priced malls. Over priced junk foods in the mall. Yes at one time Kenwood mall was the place to shop ( late 70's & early 80's). Eastgate mall, was the same. Not anymore. Too many other places to shop to get the same items, at a cheaper price. Not being over crowded with people, spills, & crying children.
Well, yes. Please don’t misunderstand and think I don’t realize modern malls have a lot of problems-I do, which is part of the reason I made the series I did...there were and still are at least double the number that would have been successful. Even you yourself acknowledge that a lot of these places were the place to be a few years back, and as a result people do have fond memories of them. My goal with my series has always been to memorialize peoples’ experiences...but not to idolize them to a point where you can’t see how problematic they can be.
I would really encourage you to watch the remainder of the series because the criticism comes when we reach the era where they began to collapse in on themselves