Lost for Centuries - How 2 Species were Found still Living
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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2023
- In today's video we will learn about 2 species that were once known to science, but seemed to have been lost. In one case, for 140 years. In the other for 1800 years.
We will hear the stories of:
1. The Black-Naped Pheasant Pigeon (Otidiphaps nobilis insularis) and
2. The Judean Date Palm (Phoenix dactylifera - ancient cultivar)
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cryptozoology, biology, wildlife, Lazarus taxon, extinct, extinction, back from the dead, species, birds, crops, Masada, Israel, history
Omg the indigenous man being excited to see the pigeon was so sweet and heartwarming
I am grieved to think about the beautiful animals we never knew we made extinct
Agreed. And we will never know.
This should make you really tear up soy boy. 99% of all animals ever have gone extinct naturally.
dont be. they filled a niche and if man needs a niche they will find another
@@peatmoss4415 IKR. Reality is a bummer, when you are so caught up in a fantasy. It would be a fantasy to think that people like that won't continue to f'up reality by trying to achieve a fantasy. Projecting responsibility onto yourself for what a member of your species did or does is mental and denying entropy. There is no 'we' in that sense or you could blame the carbon atoms or any other element that make up your body as well. The future is not responsible for the past.
@@peatmoss4415 Don't talk about the totality of natural history wich is extremely long ,but you must see that during the holocene period is what we are talking about. Also we're basically ongoing a mass extinction -again- but this time because of humans and this time it could be stoped.
I knew about the Judean Date Palms, but I didn't know they had successfully produced fruit. That's awesome news!
seeing that camera footage of the black-naped pheasant pigeon felt so unreal and extraordinary, not everyday that you rediscover an extinct species in footage the clear and so close. I have never felt so happy.
Just in time to learn they were about to cut down its home. I hope it was stopped!
It’s so nice to finally hear a good story on something making a successful comeback, puts a smile on my heart.
The Coelacanth was thought to have gone extinct at the end of the Cretaceous period (!!) but was found off the coast of South Africa.
Yes! It's an amazing story. I talk about it in my video about Lazarus Taxon
Yes! That was in 1938
Also some found in Indonesia waters but a different color if I remember right.
The story of the Judean date palms revival just blows my mind every time I i hear about it. This is probably the 5th or 6th video I've seen covering it, and each time the very idea of its restoration makes me feel like a kid hearing about dinosaurs for the first time. Just incredible.
A variety of dryland rice known as Upland Red Bearded Rice that used to be grown by slaves and ex slaves in the US was thought to be extinct as it was no longer found in the US.
It was a variety of indigenous African rice.
It was found in the 2000's being cultivated in the Caribbean islands of Trinidad and Tobago and being called Moruga Hill Rice. It had been brought to the island by American blacks who fought for the British in the War of 1812 and were resettled, and had been planted by their descendants and others since.
I'm glad to see some plants representation, they get usually overlooked but this story about the palm was amazing.
The pigeon was also amazing by the way.
Sotting here trying not to cry over these date seeds and i just LOVE the look on Dr Sarah Sollon's face at 13:45. Best "i told you so" face ever
I’m very happy for this plant and bird
Just found your channel a few days ago, and I absolutely love your content! Thank you so much for sharing knowledge 😊
Your videos are great to just chill out with. The relaxing atmosphere is wonderful, and you have a very soothing voice.
Thanks so much for your encouraging comment. And I'm really glad you're enjoying the videos
“You’re in charge of the last of the truffula seeds. And truffula trees are what everyone needs.”
The Lorax, by Dr. Seuss
Another truly excellent video -thank you so much! The story of the Wollemi Pine (Wollemia nobilis) and its discovery in Australia in 1994 is pretty amazing - maybe a subject for a future video? It's tragic to think that the black-naped pheasant pigeon might still disappear due to human ignorance, though......
Thanks for the comment. I cover the wolemi pine in my video on Lazarus taxon. :)
Wow!! Spectacular, informative and so entertaining. Thank you! Keep making videos please!
You're the best.
You have to be cafeful when calling something extinct in remote places like new guiena and the amazon. Just because westerners havent seen it doesnt mean its extinct
Same, I'm a Kauai Oo is not extinct believer because there is some remote places in Kauai that can have a small surviving population of these black birds with beautiful voices🐦
After 140 years lost it's super rare for something to come back from that
Hes probably just reading what the scientists wrote down and not him just making stuff up with the words "extinct"
That's why critically endangered exists. Still that's a long time for someone to see something and report it.
Coelacanth is the grand-daddy of the presumed extinct, no?
The reaction of the scientists seeing the black-naped pheasant pigeon on the video is so relatable. I am sure I'd just start bawling.
Really wonderful content. I appreciate your hard work. I never heard of that particular bird but I briefly heard about the Judean Date Palm but not the details. Really amazing stories.
Good for them and their determination. God blesses those that don't give up.
Great video…not only informative but also thought provoking!
Thank you for making these videos! They are very informative and eye opening.
Thanks for watching Kasia. The next video will hopefully be more friendly for your boys to watch and understand.
They will probably love this one! They are super into plants too, and anything to do with Israel so they will love hearing about the date palm.
i hope that i my self can one day grow judean date palms !!! ...
MIGardener on YT bought a shadow box off Etsy a few years back that had a pack of tomato seeds that were 87 years old and no known existed anywhere .. only two germinated and one survived to be propagated and reintroduced to the public..i just received 10 seeds in the mail today of the Giant Crimson tomato one of which is soaking now
Things like this make me smile .
Thank You
Nice film.
I think an honest solution of the situation that wild animals face is much more about leaving them alone, than it is about climate change. The climate has always changed, but we haven't always logged the homes of animals, shot Bison and Passenger pigeons by the millions, polluted their waters, etc. Climate change may well be what we are getting by cutting down the forest, but if you left THIS forest alone, the climate could change some and the birds would adapt some. They can't adapt to clear cut.
I have grown date palms from seed, and I can tell you that they take forever to reach any size.
My seed is taken from the fresh dates sold in "Eastern type" grocery stores. They start with a single leaf, like a blade of grass.
We grieve the loss of an animal...and marvel at its rediscovery!! We need to take care not to loose it in the first place
thank you for making such great videos. the way you presented this topic or any topic draws me in and kept me hooked.
Thanks for your kind comment. 🙏🏼
Great video and really informative!
I am sorry about the loss of all life, but I love the story about the date palms.
Well thank god they found another pigeon! 351 different kinds of pigeon simply weren't enough!
Nice and informative!
Thanks Atep
Love these videos
Thanks Steve!
This is my favorite video of yours it's a masterpiece❤❤😊😊
Love your video, in my island of Trinidad we were experiencing the same problem with a type of bird called the pawi..
I'd be interested to know more about it!
It's always amazed me how passenger pigeons went extinct when they once were in the millions. Popular bird to eat.
That's what happens when you can just point your gun up at any given angle and be guaranteed to hit at least one bird. These things reportedly flew in flocks so huge that they literally blocked out the sun for a good few miles. Even the most incompetent and amateur marksman could hit one of them when they gathered like this.
Unfortunately, this was before the concept of evolution - and thus, extinction - was accepted in any capacity. At the risk of offending the Bible-thumpers, the morons thought they could happily hunt or harvest any animal they liked as intensively as they liked because all of God's creations were perfect and thus could never disappear forever. Even when it was accepted, it was thought that, like evolution, it was a slow and lengthy process. The theory of mass extinctions suddenly and catastrophically wiping out species, not unlike the dinosaurs, wasn't even officially accepted until the 1980s. So, with such an abundant food source at their disposal, it never occurred to the chucklefucks that they could ever take too many. After all, with literal *billions* of birds (no, that isn't an exaggeration), what're the chances they'd ever be wiped out?
Turns out, they were pretty darn good.
Fantastic. Life on earth is amazing.
Enjoyed the video
amazing
i grew date palms and it’s one of the most challenging undertaking i’ve ever done, like even in a year, it barely grow and lots of dates i’ve planted lost to pests and human errors (someone plucked them, thought they were _weeds)._
i gave much of my respect for those scientists growing the judean date. i’d plant more dates and appreciate this spectacular species
Yes, as usual. The logging company can gobble up the trees and the habitat of wild animals that is their home.
Hey can you create a video about the Orang Pendek?
Do you think you can somehow put a video on CZcams of the loud sound that a cannonball fruit supposedly makes when it falls from the tree?
so, the Green Necked part was most likely lost due to years of inbreeding of the remaining few birds.
We have a few supposedly extinct birds seen in the mountains in Hawaii
Well that changes everything- they were nevet extinct now were they!
Two species found, thought to be extinct. Oh sh1t, they are done for now.
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It is no wonder how God could preserve his wonderful creations. Praise the Lord!
How do you date a date tree whose seed is over 2000 years old? Will its fruit be good?
they found that bird on my birthday
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woah i never knew a endangered species of dates could be so interesting. i was wondering if you or any content creator could dive into palestinian olive trees and extinct animal species. from my understanding, there's a mountain gazelle native to palestine?
I am so glad to have found something positive for a change, but this doesn’t mean that humanity will make necessary decisions and care more into preserving what habitats and ecosystems we have left to help rare species survive and thrive. 👍😊 Every day though, we are losing more and more species to human occupation with little regard to the consequences to the environment in which life that coexists in many of these areas…😢. Instead, humanity is more consumed and concerned about self centered egotistical values of war, and the destruction of habitats and ecosystems to suit their own selfish interests and desires, rather than which for the various species which are living in them. This will also mean that humanity will be unable to survive without this blend of unique life in which these various plants and animals and which forms our food chain as well. ALL LIFE IS CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER, ALL LIFE DEPENDS UPON THE OTHER FOR ITS EXISTENCE AND TO THRIVE. When one species goes extinct, so will others follow in suit, a domino effect, which will ultimately lead up to our own extinction in the end result. Instead of using and recycling what waste is being tossed away and is left behind, such as plastics and other wasteful materials, Humanity is slowly destroying the planet with its own selfish consequences of contamination, pollution, poisoning its environment with every thing imaginable and saying there is nothing wrong with it, burying it into the ground, hiding it in the oceans and waterways and calling it good, only to be left behind for future generations to deal with it. By then, there may be nothing left to save us from our own misguided choices, decisions and mistakes already being made by our civilization….A world left barren of ALL LIFE itself, much as Mars is today. 😥
It is so sad what we can do
Stop talking to your other personalities maybe.
The story about the palm is an old one, there has been a video covering this on CZcams for years now and covers them from the seeds to a well grown palm tree.
That doesn't make this video any less excellent, though.
what about the Coelacanth story?
Well, these are the lesser known ones
I hope its not too late
I have a request do you think you could do a video about reported dinosaurs sightings?
This will be my next video. :)
Saw one fly by a few seconds ago.
It breaks my heart to think that some logging company will be allowed to destroy this beautiful bird, it is criminal and definitely against nature. I hope the government of this area puts a stop to this, after all what is more important profit or the preservation of this beautiful creature. I guess it’s the government of these countries that are allowing these companies to destroy the rainforest. Mankind is slowly killing itself and everyone else and everything else in the process. These islands, these forests our our home and valuable beyond all else, Including the short sided profits of logging companies which are destroying our planet in a suicide for temporary profit. They are killers and murderers of our planet and the life that exists on it, they are evil incarnate! Destroyers! Our future looks so bleak for all of us, there is no focus or attention on any of this nonsense going on.
Depressing
Seeing the part where they got the video of the black naped pigeon was amazing, and then I immediately got infuriated to hear the guy sold to a fucking logging company. STOP CUTTING DOWN RAINFOREST!
Ever heard of the Wollami Pine?
Check out my video on Lazarus Taxon
@@all.about.nature1987 Have you made a video of the Passenger Pigeon which became extinct in 1914?
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 yep! In a video posted about 3 weeks ago about animals that were once abundant, but now extinct.
@@all.about.nature1987 Ty
Seems that even the replies dont make sense. Stop the bs!
They estimated the population of the black naped pheasant from just a 10 second video?
No of camera traps, area of islands and sample statistics
How many times have you heard the term ... more than predicted ... or less than predicted. Always retain a healthy does of skepticism.
Pigeons/Doves were ancestors of Chickens/Pheasants/peacocks (?!?) that adapted to live/feed on the ground and some even lose their ability to fly.
I love figs
i say plant those judean palmtrees all around the world😊
In case you don’t know the dinosaurs are extinct
No they’re not. We call them birds.
Non-avian dinosaurs, yes. Avian dinosaurs - as in, birds - are *far* from extinct.
Birds are Avian dinosaurs which are not extinct
Thro seeds the Judean palms resurrected, extinct trees, don't we have their seeds?
Yes & they are growing. It’ll be about 20 years before they start fruiting. It’s going to take a very, very long time to achieve commercial growth. The extremely rich will enjoy these dates before us regular people.
Human greed does not have mercy.
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Wonderful stories. Thank You. But you could have done this video in 6 minutes.
Yep, that's us, the species killers! And nothing else can cause extinction, I mean, I haven't seen a T. Rex for years.
You’re definitely not realizing how stupid your statement is.
Hidden for centuries shoobevyhe head line
I'd like to have some jungle fowl
At what point in the never-ending chain of sub-sub-sub-sub-...-sub-species do "scientists" admit that the various sub-s are the same species with incidental differences rather than something truly different? Human populations, all one single species, vary in skin color, facial features, and stature far more than these 4 varieties of pheasant pigeons. I know, I'm a heretic.
So that gouverments dont say"ugh its the same species it doesnt matter if we let them die on this island if there are more of them elsewere rigth "
In modern day science this is done with genetics, along with differences in behavior, different ecological niches, physical variety etc. These various subspecies are important if you want to keep logging since you need healthy forests, and the birds and animals that live in those forests keep it healthy.
You're not a 'heretic' that's a religious phrase, just ignorant especially since you think you're being clever. Fortunately from your word choice I can tell you are religious so:
The different species are good, pray about it and whatever priest, imam, rabbi etc you follow will eventually get the message from god and explain it to you in a way that's easy to understand.
12:50 "growth of Islam" is a funny way of saying "violent conquest of formerly Christian lands". Blame the muslims for the extermination of the date palm, not the crusaders.
“Formerly Christian lands”, as though they were not made “Christian “ through slaughter.
@@mjgilbert5475 They weren't
The human race never fails to befuddled me with the arrogant thought processes of know it alls and yet knowing not much of anything of relevance. Extinct? Could be the bird in question have stayed clear of human contact by luck or? There have been reported sightings of the Dodo Bird and Thylacine in recent years on remote uninhabited islands around Australia and New Zealand so how about using "thought to be extinct" instead of being so sure that your opinions are correct.
God protected these beautiful creatures.
Just like he protected his chosen people, the jews in the nazi death camps...oh wait!!!!
*glances at the dodo, thylacine, quagga, and countless other species in the corner*
Please add common sense to the list
Extinction is terrible but when u say some go extinct before we know about them-how would you know?
Lemme put it to you this way:
You go to a junkyard and walk around for, say an hour. You see lots of things, like old couches, garbage bags of rotting food, and clothes so moth-eaten that no-one would wear them. But you can only see what's on the surface. To sift through the entire contents of the place, it would take you years, if not a lifetime to find and examine every little piece and scrap.
Now imagine, at the same time as you're exploring, someone else on the opposite side of the junkyard is burning all the trash. They burn a lot of things - the old couches, garbage bags of rotting food, and clothes so moth-eat that no-one would wear them. But they're also burning things that you haven't seen yet, like that one pair of unique, worn-out sneakers. They burn through the garbage faster than you can look through and examine it all because, unlike you, they aren't concerned with studying everything. All they care about is getting rid of the garbage as quickly as possible.
By the time the junkyard's been burned to the ground, you might be lucky if you even got halfway through before everything turned to ash. What else was in there that you missed? What didn't you get the chance to see? Guess you'll never know.
That is my point! How would you know-answer, you can’t, the comment was silly even if correct-enjoyed ur analogy though
@@rockydaniel7073 Your missing *my* point. There is just as much chance as missing something as there is not missing something.
With that in mind, take into consideration that we are still, to this very day, discovering new species. Virtually every dive into the ocean abyss, every trek into the rainforest yields a brand-new species previously unknown to science. If we're still discovering new species, then that means there are plenty more out there that we have yet to catalog. And that means that are just as many species we will never discover because we destroyed them before we even knew about them.
Distorting history to push a religious-political narrative is disturbing. The Roman Empire didn't "collapse" and Islam didn't "spread" in the area. The Roman Empire was invaded, half of its territory was taken, the inhabitants were slaughtered, enslaved, forcibly converted, and the lands colonised by the Muslim Arabs. The Crusades were a direct response to that, and were indeed instigated at the request of the Roman Empire itself for assistance from the Christian West, to help save it from the invading Muslim Turkish hordes that it was crumbling to after four CENTURIES of constant Islamic aggression, piracy, invasion, sieges, rape, enslavement etc from the Muslim Arabs and then Muslim Turks. The Roman Empire held out for the better part of a thousand years from Islam's inception, only finally succumbing to the Muslim Turks in 1453.
Blaming the loss of a mere cultivar of Date Palm - and yes, it's just a cultivated variety, not a species, and has very little relevance to your channel - on the Crusades, is pseudoscience that you have zero evidence for. People had far more pressing things to worry about in the Middle Ages than cataloguing the demise of a single cultivar of a plant that was otherwise still continuously grown throughout the Middle East and North Africa up to this day, and indeed is grown in appropriate climates throughout the world at this very moment.
You do incredible work with your channel and I admire you in many countless ways, but you are meant to be a natural history channel based on scientific facts. Please don't push distortions of fact for political comfort and convenience. It's morally and ethically egregious, and a black mark against your name. Be better than that, because you are far better than that.
Oh no. Ban humans
Get to the point....4 minutes introduction until you begin discussing the topic. Otherwise, great information.
there has been extinction and total change of climate without humans, stop guilt tripping me bro. Otherwise, cool video
Most animal & plant extinctions in recent centuries are caused by Humans.
I'm sorry you're triggered by facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 made up bs pais for by UN. Global power grab. No, DV cars won't bring the heat down. Stop with your hysterics.
Just because something occurs naturally doesn’t mean it can’t be man-made. Fires occur naturally. Does that mean arson is impossible?
Don't let the door hit you on the way out
Earth isn't 10 thousand years old
He never said it was. That's merely recorded human history - when we actually started keeping track of things.
You lost me at climate change...
Good. Bye!
I always stop watching these whenever anyone says BCE!
I’m Christian and I prefer BCE because not everyone else is Christian and I accept that. The only thing that’s offensive to me about any religion is if the adherents insist I follow it, either directly or by default. Evangelicals, to me, are the least Christ-like in my experience. For you to be offended is a reflection on you.
@@neosapienz7885 so you're actually not a Christian you just say you are! I completely understand!
@@jonhenke1504 I am absolutely a Christian. I just take issue with anyone forcing others to abide by their religious beliefs. The notion that Christians are being persecuted in the West os ridiculous. Most of us want to live and let live in a secular society. Most of us recognize that we are not sitting in judgment of others. God will judge when the time comes, and I suspect even then, it won’t be what we think He gave us the gifts of intelligence, compassion, and free will. The greatest of those is compassion, and Jesus taught us. Sorry to go off like this, but to take issue with BCE is ludicrous. Oh…and that means I’m judging you. Sorry about that.
Declaring a species extinct is not a scientific datum. It is politics.
Its really not
The narrator needs to get on with it