#59: Dave Brown Interview: Raw Knuckles Podcast
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Knuckles and Tim interview Dave Brown and talk about Brown's time with the Flyers, fighting, and the Brawl to End All Brawls!
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
2:01 - Dave Brown vs. Chris
5:21 - Growing up in Canada
12:54 - Fighting as an Avenue
16:31 - Getting Called to Philadelphia
23:17 - Mike Keenan Stories
35:19 - State of Today's Game
38:09 - The Brawl to End All Brawls
48:50 - Brown's Biggest Regret
50:55 - Going to Edmonton
57:06 - Fighting
1:04:14 - Ed Snyder
1:07:48- Director of Scouting for the Flyers
1:17:27 - Torts in Philly
1:22:13 - Career Reflection
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Dave Brown was the real deal. Great fighter. This is Gold!
I love how there is no grudges held and the camaraderie of the gladiators! Love every one these awesome!
The most amazing thing was when I read Dave Semenko's book and he wrote I'll never fight Nick Fotiu because we are such good friends. I was shocked!
One time Semenko tried to get agitator Neil Sheehy and Nick grabbed him and told Semenko to leave it alone and said he won't fight anyway and will just turtle. Semenko wrote 18,000 people got all excited thinking the two toughest guys are going to fight and I knew it would never happen that I liked Nicky too much!
I was shocked!
Nilan talks nice about Nick also!
Amazing!
Brownie is a Philly legend!
NHL legend. ,,,🙏👌
Also an Oilers Legend.
When I was a kid I watched Dave Brown and Joey Kocur play for the Yorkton Terriers. I'm glad Dave sorta mentioned Yorkton lol That team made me love hockey.
There's tough and then there's really tough!!...Dave brown was really tough as was Knuckles!!
Wow! You never hear Dave Brown doing interviews. I wish there was more discussion about his time in Edmonton. I dont think he realizes how much of a legend he is amongst Oilers fans of a certain era.
Dave Brown could have played any sport he wanted. He was a first class pitcher who was drafted by a mlb team. He was also our high school quarterback who could have done that as well if he put his mind to it. Great interview. Thanks to Knuckles for having him on.
How come there’s not more interviews with him?
Always respected Brownie. Tough as they come.
What team
@@Bruins-vq5ey I believe it was the Pittsburg pirates but not 100 % sure
Imagine Brown pitching a fast ball. The catcher would get KOED 😮
It's insane and incredible how much two person who use to fight each other have such respect for one another.
Absolutely fucking awesome... That's the longest, and most in depth interview I've ever heard with the legendary Dave Brown.. It's great to hear his perspective & story, in a relaxed setting like this.. A couple weeks ago Knuckles had my favorite scrapper on -- Battling Jay Miller! These guys meant so much to their teammates, and their contributions deserve to be recognized...
Brownie humble dude...he was the best at what he did...he was a hero in Philly from 85 to 87
Dave Brown and I were somewhat neighbors in rural So. Jersey… I’d see him around town, but only approached him twice… The first time was at the Pole Tavern Circle WaWa, in Elmer, NJ. Back then they sold lunch meat, Brownie had both hands full of lunch meat, and still stayed and talked hockey for about 45mins… He could’ve easily told me he had to go, but he didn’t… He was pretty talkative and honest, I’ll never forget that interaction, he is an awesome guy !!!
Awesome Job!!!! So great to hear Dave Brown on a pod cast finally!!!
Yeah Dave Brown always been a type of mystery tough guy. Mysterious assassin 🤣👌
Dave was so right about the importance of the tough guys for the skilled players.
Awesome this podcast is about real men! I fucking love this podcast and I love Knuckles too! 👍❤️🇨🇦🤠
I have a man crush on knuckles. Lol
Again, just awesome stuff boys! Dave Brown is one of the toughest guys in NHL history and it was great to hear his stories.A very humble man.Thanks again Mr. Nilan and Mr. Stapleton.Keep these good ole boys interviews coming!
Dave Brown is a legend. What a great guy he seems to be. Not bragging about anything, just very humble and nice fella.
One of the very best enforcers and punchers
Thank you!
Brownie doesn't talk alot in interviews it seams. Great to hear this one!
Seems like a really grounded person. I felt for him when Knucks brought up his wife's passing. Awesome content. Can't seem to find this anywhere. Forever a RAW KNUCKLES PODCAST fan. Tim"s a great partner.
What a great guy Dave is. All you guys are always the nicest guys. 👍
Marcelin, sask! Im from that town. The Marcelin Knights had training camp on the slough cause the ice in the rink wasnt ready yet. Dave B played for the Saskatoon Quakers. I played for both of those teams in that league. Wild games in the 80's!
you keep getting all these great Saskatchewan guys on. Used to see Brownie working out at The Field House in Saskatoon a long long time ago. What a player.
A Dave Brown interview is such a rarity.
I wonder why?
Brownie was fearsome. I didn't play hockey and I feared him when I went to get an autograph. Fortunately he was cool and friendly and signed my Flyers media guide. He didn't punch me.
Sorry to hear about you wife Dave, devastating. Dave please don't let it bring you down. Everyone who ever took the time to love someone takes the risk. It is OK to be feel happy please don't dwell on it - we all will pass and someone is in your heart still with you moving forward.
Wow great post. God Bless
You have the best guests, love these podcasts! I’ve seen Craig Coxe talk about that fight with Dave Brown, I’m sure he would appreciate hearing that he regrets it.
Yeah that was nice to hear. I grew up in the Smyth 1985 and on - and that Craig Coxe was like a pit bull. He fought Joe Paterson if he smelled him on the ice. He got hit more than heavyweight I ever saw.. He was fearless maybe to a fault.
Love these so much. It’s also wonderful to see the human side of all these tough “70s” guys, my favorite is seeing Jay Milker and Chris Nolan’s friendship. So very cool….Dave Brown was one scary tough guy.
Hooray! We finally hear from the terminator himself! Good job, fellas! Just wish Probie was still kicking and you guys could cover all the bases...Kocur is still around (hint)
Kocur would be magnificent
Pretty sure Cam & Strick interviewed Kocur not that long ago on the podcast.
Edit:
search Joey Kocur on Cam and Strick Podcast
Nov 3, 2020
again Chris and Tim enjoyed this interview with Dave Brown.
Yes beast Brown! Now get my boy McSorley 🤟🍻🤟
Great interview, thank you so much guys!!!
This is just great stuff! Thanks!
Thanks for posting been following you both since you both broke into the league. Really appreciated 👍
That was just a fantastic interview. Thanks guys.
Love this podcast
thank you guys
Great interview.
Funny how these guys were the villains and it was personal (as a fan), years later every one of them is a great guy. I always wanted to see Brownie fight Beck or Fotiu
This was great, AWESOME!
Totally agree with Brown that most fights are really a draw, or near enough to.
Been waiting for an interview with him. Nice work.
I love Dave Brown! Top 3 tough guy of all time! Great interview
Great podcast! Yesterday the Flyers had an old timers game with the Bruins and I didn’t see Terry O’Reilly so I did a search and happened on to this. I love all the conversations and stories! A long time Flyer fan, all the respect in the world for Chris Nilan!
Very very interesting. This is a very good interview . Many thanks to Chris and the entire Team at Knuckles Podcast. Dave Brown is a very smart man . Top Notch !!!
Hey Dave Brown ... if you ever read this, just want you to know how awesome it was being a Flyers fan back in the day with you on that team. Those loses to the Oilers KILLED me ... glad to hear how hard it was for you too. I feel like players in the NHL today don't play with that kind of team heart. Cheers to you ...
Lifelong Rangers fan and this guy was an absolute beast. Great interview, seems like a real good guy
Dave sound like the best friend you never had.. Love this dude
#21 ...... BROWNIE , THE KING !!!!!!!!
Wow… lifelong Ranger fan , played competitively as a kid for a while.
Loved Nilan when he was the Rangers , of course hated Brown when he was on Philly.
Just a fabulous interview, respect for you two guys… Tim too!
Really enjoyed the interview, laid back, great insight. It's like sitting at a bar and listening to the stories. Great stuff
I remember the first time I heard of Brownie. The Rochester Amerks were playing Maine. I saw in the box score that Brownie fought Val James and Chris Langevin on the same play. I wondered who that guy was who fought those two tough guys. Then I watched his amazing career. Miss those days of real hockey.
Dave Brown revealed in an interview that Val James was the toughest guy Brown ever fought. Brown answered " WHEN YOU FOUGHT HIM YOU KNEW IT "
What a treat this was. I was never a Flyer fan at all but Dave Brown is my favourite NHL tough guy of all time. He was simply the scariest fighter I ever saw play. Even more than Probert.
A few months ago, Nilan asked on one of his social media outlets who he should interview and I said Dave Brown and he agreed. Thanks Chris
Thanks for the real Flyers memories, love you man,
Big Dave Brown #21 👍👍
What a podcast!,, much respect for Dave Brown , very humble individual and very well spoken. Too bad there isn’t more interviews with him around.
Didn’t know Knuckles had a podcast until just now. Luckily, my YT algorithm recommended this video, and it’s a beauty! Haven’t even looked at other episodes to see who’s been a guest, since I wanted to leave a comment to say how much I’m looking forward to it. Liked & subbed!🙂
man do i miss these guys !!! these were men who played this great game.
Knuckles love your show joe kocur would be a very interesting interview between him talking probert and yzerman would love it
As a Philly fan, always respected Nuckles, tough as they come...great interview!
I didn’t know much about Dave Brown other than his hockey playing career, but wow, what a great guy! Another awesome pod cast, guys! 👍🏽
Agree with Dave Brown's take on overtime.
Good guy Dave Brown great perspective on the role and how it benefits the teams heart beat.
Great interview Chris and Tim.
Great to see these worriers able to sit down and reminisce about the old days...the tuff guys were some of the most down to earth guys to talk to.
Awesome!!
Great videos i am learning more about your game called iced hockey cheers.
I don’t believe I ever heard an in-depth interview with Dave Brown. As a huge fan of all enforcers I enjoyed every second of this. On to the Domi episode!!!
Tim does a great job on the show. just thought it should be noted.
always great guest and stories. thanks Chris !
Love that Northeastern jersey, Chris you were a couple years ahead of me, then I got to meet you when you brought a Catermaran sailboat to Hull MA and launched from the Bayside right near my Summer house
Always a big Dave Brown fan and this interview ...one of the best interviews I have ever seen. Very insightful and informative on one of the most courageous gladiators ever to compete in any sport. I watched the entire hour and a half and loved every minute of it.
I love Knuckles. He’s a great interviewer and storyteller.
Absolutely! Love this Podcast! Dave Brown! n Chris Nilan TWO OF ALL TIME GREAT FIGHTERS! ABSOLUTE WARRIORS! AWESOME!❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Great interview nice to see David first class gentleman lots of respect for the man God bless you guys.
I'm in South Korea and I read your book Chris. Great story. God bless you.
Awesome! Way to pick up Knuckles slack Tim. LOL
Brown was a beauty. Even highly respected tough guys were leery around him. You could see it in their eyes
Search on Google - George Laraque the only fight I ran away
Dave Brown was voted the most feared fighter by the NHL enforcers in the first edition of tough guys magazine. Great enforcers write books about their hockey fights encounters. Stu Grimson wrote in his book that Brown was the most feared fighter in the NHL. George Laraque wrote a book . George wrote about his first and only encounter with Dave Brown. Search on Google - George Laraque, the only fight I ran away. Brown was mainly feared because of his tenacious punching power. Dave was notorious for forcing guys to fight him . Joe Kocur was interviewed and mentioned his hockey relationship with Brown in the juniors. Joe Kocur spoke of his NHL encounters with Brown on the ice. Kocur said I was "lucky" I never had to fight him. Joe said, " Thank God." Brown never wanted to fight me. He was 6"5" with a long reach. You don't want to fight a lefty. Kocur said Brown would just skate by and say hi Joey. Win , draw, or rarely lose a fight , Brown fought tooth a nail to the wire. If he rarely lost to a guy . A revenge fight was risky for the opponent. Basically, Dave was avoided as much as possible . Many great fighters said in interviews that Brown was either the toughest guy they fought or the hardest puncher that hit them or both scenarios. Bob Probert, Stu Grimson, Tie Domi, and Gino Odjick admitted it. Craig Coxe said Brownie hit hard. Search on CZcams - Jim Kyte on gearing up to fight Dave Brown. Search on CZcams - John Scott dropping the gloves Rob Ray vs. Dave Brown . Search on CZcams Gino Odjick interview with Michael Landsberg.
Another great guest loved watching Dave square off against Terry O’Reilly some really great fights
Never fought bro
Spoke with Bob Kelly a few years back and asked who was the toughest fighter he went up against. Without hesitation he said Chris Nilan. Great interview with Brownie!
Thanks so much for this. It’s great to hear Brownie’s perspective on the current dumpster fire and how we’re going to get out of it. Knuckles had some great questions especially about the type of coaching and does it fit in today’s NHL. Thank God Brownie also supports Torts and thinks he is doing a good job. He is absolutely correct in that we became more competitive on Torts’ arrival.
I’m going to try to say this in the most respectable way possible: Brown still has a sociopathic look and a laugh that puts me on edge. Those Manson-like eyes man. I’d put Brown at the top of the list of people I don’t ever want to cross paths with.
This is awesome.
Thanks for listening
Dave brown and Bob probert were the best 2 enforcers in their prime.
Awesome to see the respect between Chris and Dave. Great interview but I wish Chris had asked him about the process of the Flyers drafting Mishkov this year.
Dave Brown A GOOD MAN
You have some incredible guests on your show Chris. It's such a rarity to see a Dave Brown interview. Any chance you can get Behn Wilson on your show?
Always great to hear and see Brownie. He's one of the most feared of all-time without a doubt. "Tight around your nose Timmy, ya got them gloves cemented on?"
Probert and Browm, 1 sand 2
Brown is the number 1 most feared and destructive fighter to drop the gloves. He was voted the most feared enforcer in the first edition of tough guys magazine by the NHL enforcers. Stu Grimson's book reveals that Brown was the most feared fighter in the NHL. Grimson said Brown hit way harder than Probert ever did. Tough guys like George Laraque ran away scared of Brown. Search on Google: George Laraque the only fight I ran away.
One of the best fights of all time was the pre game fight at the Montreal Forum
38:25 - I love this Tomas Sandstrom story, mostly because of how much Nilan enjoys telling it. Get Sandstom on the show!
Dave’s got some good story’s I saw him live once in Edmonton 88 I think
Knuckles you are doing an amazing job man!! And I am a Bruins fan.
Thanks Geoff
What a fantastic interview. For those that don't know, Dave Brown is considered one of the absolute toughest to ever lace them up. Brownie was known for a very hard left hand. For the undersized Chris to get in a scrap with a shirtless and much larger Brown (thus having nothing to grab on) in a brawl where there are no linesman on the ice is one of the most courageous things witnessed on the ice. Also, Kudos to Brownie for acknowledging the Coxe fight. There is video of Coxe being interviewed about this fight and how Brown did get the jump on him. As a fan having seen that fight a number of times, I always wondered what they were saying to each other. Anyhow, really enjoying the podcasts Knuckles! Keep up the great work.
Dave Brown to Tim Hunter - "Hey Timmy you got those gloves cemented on or what"
Knuckles sneaking in rips of the vape 😂
I see you Chris!
Love to see one of these with Tony Twist..
great interview Chris...i;d like to hear Dave's thoughts on fighting Jim Kyte...he used to beat him up bad... and kyte was tough
Totally agree with browny on the overtime!
Loved when Brownie came to the Oilers, riding shotgun after Semenko & McSorley departed...had a season ticket at the time.
OMG, a top 3 scariest fighter ever, bares his soul and insight. He is old and secure enough to tell the truth.
I do recall Dave Brown knew when the fight was over and never took it to far.
@@jamescoleman5317 He took it too far several times. There is a vid on yt, where he repeated punched a smaller guy after he was already down and out.
@@stealthbomber2127 So what ? I'm a neutral Habs fan that knows that Todd Ewan as a Montreal player punched quite a few opponents when they were on the ice. Todd the animal was his code name. Brown was the TERMINATOR
@@mirandasalinas9412 Damn, don't you do anything in your miserable life? All you do is post on brown everywhere, wackadoo.
I wish Knuckles could have scored more goals too...I loved it when Nilan contributed to the scoring. I remember one night in Montreal, Knuckles scored two goals against the Philadelphia Flyers. Great night.
The big tough guys were always the nicest off the ice. They were often mocked in their youths for being much bigger than other kids, which of course came with physical awkwardness for a period of time. Society tended to be harder on these big kids because they looked like adults but were still kids mentally. When they stepped on the ice they were expected to be tough and were pressured to fight. Pigeon holed immediately not given any chances to play the game. I grew up in Saskatchewan and played junior hockey in the 80’s. I was a skilled player but you needed to be tough regardless. Not in the fighting sense but you had to have tools to protect yourself. I was suspended for spearing, cross checking in the throat and stuff like that. When you could score they came after you. Many sleepless nights for sure. And after spearing an opponent they never bothered you again. So you needed to do some crazy shit to survive.
Great interview! How about getting 2 of the original Philly enforcers legends, Dave the Hammer #8 Schultz and Bob Battleship Kelly #9 from the 70s flyers cup winners. Schultz the All Time penalty minutes King with over 3000 PIM
They both acknowledge another Saskatoon Blade beauty in Daryl Stanley
Blades have top five toughest alumni in NHL history.
In no particular order
Wendel
Tony twist
Joe kocur
Brownie
Stanley
….damn kaminski too
Thats a scary list. Twister and Kocur could kill you with one shot, Brownie was top 3-4 fighters ever, Wendel pound for pound the best
Great guest in Dave brown!
How about frank the animal bialowas?
This guy loved it!
Riley Cote and Derek Settlemyre did one, it's really good czcams.com/video/MTW6HUQFrT8/video.html