I agree with Hans actually, when Sagar said he could not take Amruta to Canada because he could not afford it, I felt that Fide should be paying for Sagar.
Sagar works for chessbase india. Not for fide. Further sagar does a lot of side business in chessbase india like selling sweets of his cousins etc. Samay I am not sure what that guy is good for why is he just so everywhere. They include Tanmay Bhatt regularly who is well known for making pedo tweets and enjoys the company of young chess players. Now they expect fide to pay them for their 'great work'
@@universe6735 really ? do some research you will know what samay has does for bringing chess to mainstream and popularising it. you are a just a jealous person who has achieved nothing in life. just a stupid keyboard warrior. and tanmay is one of the best modern Comedian of India who has achieved so much that your whole family cannot achieve in their life. get a life buddy. don't be a stupid troll do something good in life for yourself amd the society and be more nice to others . also try sharing your opinion from your original Id don't share you opinion from behind the mask.
@@universe6735Idiot, he is talking about Sagar Shah....not samay....there is no better than Sagar Shah in this world who cover chess and players with that enthusiasm and discipline....
How many people should contribute 5000 each to make a comfortable trip for Sagar and Namrutha to the world championship . Could we start a fund on line ??
@@nadvani4844 if it's in India, they will be sponsored more or less, the only they will have to pay is to FIDE for allowing them to cover the game on their CZcams channel
I work for FIDE and we have taken Hans' feedback. For the next candidates, we are planning to book a presidential suite for Mr Shah and his wife with a bottle of Don Perignon for him.
I believe there will come a time when FIDE will reward you Sagar in the way Hans is suggesting, becuase he is right about the quality of your coverage and the follwing you have brought but also I like your attitude and your approach and I admire you very much
I don't know why but this Sagar & Hans is like the big brother little brother duo that we never imagined we wanted but need it 100%. Hey hans maybe you can do commentary with Sagar for the upcoming world championship that would be epic af.
Kudos to Sagar for prioritising global chess scene over himself. Didn't change his opinion or spoke ill about FIDE despite great counters from Hans. I hope he gets the reward & recognition for his contributions!
Im sorry but thats an stupid idea, work is work, you should ask for what you deserve, the world doesnt need your sacrifice, especially when it comes from a millionaire organization.
Sagar and Chessbase India do amazing work. I live in Canada, and during the just completed Candidates tournament in Toronto, it was Sagar's daily reports which kept me informed. That and watching Hikaru's broadcasts.
Don't change Sagar . You are Gold . You don't have to sieve for gold . Don't listen to the mercenaries 😂❤You and Amrutha are perfect. That's a Hans view . We all love you in India and around the world just as you are .We see you 😍
@@randybailin4902 seems like you need the help more lil bro. talking about nice hotels does not imply any guarantee or promise of not trashing nice hotels. An example of irony would be, if hans was talking about not having anger management issues, and then trashed a hotel room. Also, Chase Park Plaza is a 4-star if we're being generous. :D
@Bullimicporkupine the irony is that he's suggesting fancy hotels rooms are important but he's famous for trashing his hotel room. Your example of irony isn't irony at all.
Hans is rght and I am glad he said it so Sagar can hear it from high level GM. Even if he doesn't wish to ask FIDE to pay for hotels. Sagar IS the best commentator and should know he is valued and appreciated by everyone in the chess community!
All the tournaments should be held in Ghatkopar. Logistically that will be easier. 😂😂😅😅. On a serious note, Sagar does deserve a lot more but "more" for him is the growth of Chess globally!
I think I think , he is kinda digging Indian fans , Idk maybe , But I like him . He kinda exploded in the chess scene(ik for all wrong reasons)but , if you see Gotham Chess you'll notice that he attracts same viewers as Magnus and Hikaru, Bad publicity is still publicity , and chess needs it .
sagar's long term vision is really good . He convinced chessbase to open a sub-branch of chessbase in India , so they can sell chessbase software in cheaper price in south asian region .... cheaper price meant more sale and overall chessbase ended up earning more than before. Then struck a deal with FIDE to let them access matches in all chess events , which technically FIDE should be owned and distributed by FIDE only. This guy is a Lengendary Businessman.
As a chess fan and viewer of chadebaseIndia, I'd definitely want sagar to get special treatment for being the biggest chess creator from India. But sagar cannot ask for it by himself, it doesn't look right. Someone more influencial having contacts in FIDE should arrange it for sagar. I think vishy has some good connections, maybe he can do something for sagar, during the upcoming championship match.
I think Sagar Shah is the person who really understands how fragile the ecosystem is. Niemann’s opinion is distorted because he really does influence views and it’s intoxicating. Niemann could be important to chess if he stops self-immolating. If not, he’s a foootnote
Hans has a point. Getting paid for the value-add is important. It is also good for Sagar-Amrutha's well-being and health. The only thing is that money and money should not get to one's head. Get small comforts but not seek entitled luxuries.
Asking for bare minimum accomodation and a transport vehicle is not to much Sagar is weird to thing he's "working on growing the chess together rather than himself".. sure buddy... At the end of the day you are a media person just like in another sport. It's besides the point you can afford the accommodation or not . Fide not providing you one is messed up . Acknowledge it and move and stop trying to be the bigger person
thats the thing , sagar probably fears he will not even get invited if he tries to ask anything, back when he started he used to borrow money to get to these event without any fide invitation
@@sk-ig4wtbro then u definitely don't know much about sagar. As far as chess or any job is concerned I have never seen any man as passionate as sagar for his job and chess in general. He's doing it for chess...his purpose is to grow the game and players getting their due credit (money fame etc) like other sports. He does it for his love for chess. The man has streamed more than 20 hrs a day just because he had some guests lined up...this is how passionate he is. So it genuinely doesn't matter to him if fide facilitates him or not but yes I quite agree with Hans that being a big and growing channel and good track record sagar should get bare minimum facilities like accommodation and transport but this can easily be controversial because some other people can also ask for these things in the name of growing chess/popular streamers etc etc.. To add one more point, because of his passion and humble nature he has respect from almost every top players and all of them feel great while being interviewed by him or any interaction. He invites many players to streams etc all because of the respect he earned in chess world....
I totally agree with hans Sagar shah and his team deserves more. They cover the entire tournament with recap summary videos and showing each and every game with detailed analysis. Definitely lots of effort goes into the process. Kudos to Sagar shah and amrutha for outstanding work.
Sagar is doing chess a huge service. he takes chessplayers all around the world. Already the best chess journalist ever and his legacy continues. We lessers of the chess world appreciate you Sagar otherwise we would never have these inside experiences.
I am unsure if this was his intention. But just mentioning India draws in a lot of us. This video has already become the most viewed video of this channel.
Agree with Sagar, everyone is interdependent and should grow together, no point in confronting authorities. Some are pushing this false narrative that Chess is shifting towards India , We shouldn’t fall for that. India is origin of Chess and we should excel in and demand larger role in governing body FIDE and for that we should take everyone along. A win-win for all approach.
Everyone here is forgetting that chess is not a very popular sport. In fact $5 million rematch between Fischer and Spassky in 1992 remains the biggest prize fund ever.
@@Inningsinsider its only popular in former British Empire countries and not even olympic sport. Honestly i doubt someone in EU or CIS or even US knows the rules of cricket.
Sagar brings alot on table, Fide's biggest audience is from India, India's biggest serious chess coverage is done by Sagar. So Hans Niemann has a point, Sagar is biggest asset for Fide.
You think Danny Rensch is staying at an airbnb at any of these things he attends? No probably not unless he purposefully chose it, but he certainly doesnt pay for it himself.
Everyone knowing Hans knows that he is exaggerating here. His point is thath they should give him a good place to stay close to work. That being said there are very nice airbnbs, which are actually in many cases nicer than hotels. My parents stay in a airbnb when they visit my sister in swiss, since hotels are just insanely expensive, and they basically have like half a house for them with like the nicest rooms
Why am I getting old Indian cricket vibe. It’s same as we had to pay for broadcasting for the viewers we were bringing, he is literally bringing millions of views 😂😂😂 Good job FIDE
I love this installment of Life of Jesus. And then Hans took Sagar to a five star hotel and said, it could be all yours if you but took what is yours. But Sagar answered onto the Hans and said that he was happy to be a grain of dust in this divine tapestry on the floor of his father's house. Next time please give an apple to Sagar and say it was from me. He is too pure, we must spoil him somehow :)))
Sagar needs to stand his ground! He should put all his chips on the table and say book me a 5 star or the only thing I'm covering is the ban on trans women playing chess in official women's tournaments!
I agree with Hans actually, when Sagar said he could not take Amruta to Canada because he could not afford it, I felt that Fide should be paying for Sagar.
Sagar works for chessbase india. Not for fide. Further sagar does a lot of side business in chessbase india like selling sweets of his cousins etc. Samay I am not sure what that guy is good for why is he just so everywhere. They include Tanmay Bhatt regularly who is well known for making pedo tweets and enjoys the company of young chess players. Now they expect fide to pay them for their 'great work'
@@universe6735look we have a braindead hater here 😂
@@universe6735 really ? do some research you will know what samay has does for bringing chess to mainstream and popularising it. you are a just a jealous person who has achieved nothing in life. just a stupid keyboard warrior.
and tanmay is one of the best modern Comedian of India who has achieved so much that your whole family cannot achieve in their life.
get a life buddy. don't be a stupid troll do something good in life for yourself amd the society and be more nice to others .
also try sharing your opinion from your original Id don't share you opinion from behind the mask.
@@universe6735 where are you from again?
@@universe6735Idiot, he is talking about Sagar Shah....not samay....there is no better than Sagar Shah in this world who cover chess and players with that enthusiasm and discipline....
he might be exaggerating a little, but he's got a point.
exactly like why should you be ashamed to demand value you provide?
He is exaggerating a lot!
Sagar Shah has typical Indian attitude
Hans has typical American attitude
Indian attitude: ameer hoke bhi gareeb dikhna
America attitude: gareeb hoke bhi ameer dikhna
@@zeus3086 FR
How many people should contribute 5000 each to make a comfortable trip for Sagar and Namrutha to the world championship . Could we start a fund on line ??
@@nadvani4844 if it's in India, they will be sponsored more or less, the only they will have to pay is to FIDE for allowing them to cover the game on their CZcams channel
@@nadvani4844 they can afford to travel, don't sympathize with them.
Hans Neimann is Right.
But Our Indian Mentality Is Too Humble
Rich Indian mentality is quite opposite.
why should you be ashamed to demand value you provide?
I understand Sagar's point about collaborative effort but he deserves so much more! Respect and compensation must be given where it's deserved.
I work for FIDE and we have taken Hans' feedback. For the next candidates, we are planning to book a presidential suite for Mr Shah and his wife with a bottle of Don Perignon for him.
lol i wish this was serious.
They dont drink. Give it to me so it wont go to waste.
@@alidotgg☝️🤓
I am his manager from FIDE don’t believe to this guy I have fired him for providing misinformation the bottle was OLD MONK
@@alidotggBde Tej ho rhe
I believe there will come a time when FIDE will reward you Sagar in the way Hans is suggesting, becuase he is right about the quality of your coverage and the follwing you have brought but also I like your attitude and your approach and I admire you very much
Sagar and Amruta are doing honorary PR and publicity job for FIDE and the players.
exactly like why should you be ashamed to demand value you provide?
I don't know why but this Sagar & Hans is like the big brother little brother duo that we never imagined we wanted but need it 100%.
Hey hans maybe you can do commentary with Sagar for the upcoming world championship that would be epic af.
Hans gesture of DMing Samay and joining stream was great. And he predicted Gukesh win which he did. That’s humble of him.
Hans Niemann, jaha jaye aag lagaye 🔥🔥🔥
Hansraj neimani
@@shashankmishra7630wtf😂😂
Kudos to Sagar for prioritising global chess scene over himself. Didn't change his opinion or spoke ill about FIDE despite great counters from Hans.
I hope he gets the reward & recognition for his contributions!
People don't know that Sagar is a chartered accountant in India which is a feat itself. He's very smart.
@@kabeerlatane9963 I have met many dumb CAs too. Give credit to the individual & not to their degrees. Cheers 🍻
@@kabeerlatane9963 technically if he work that much as a chartered accountant in India he would be 10× rich then now
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Im sorry but thats an stupid idea, work is work, you should ask for what you deserve, the world doesnt need your sacrifice, especially when it comes from a millionaire organization.
Hans has a valid point, Sagar takes the gentle approach
Of course he has valid point. But everything he says, there is something off about all of it!
Sagar and Chessbase India do amazing work. I live in Canada, and during the just completed Candidates tournament in Toronto, it was Sagar's daily reports which kept me informed. That and watching Hikaru's broadcasts.
Ngl sagar did A LOT for chess ♟️
Don't change Sagar . You are Gold . You don't have to sieve for gold . Don't listen to the mercenaries 😂❤You and Amrutha are perfect. That's a Hans view . We all love you in India and around the world just as you are .We see you 😍
Ironic that Hans is commenting on nice hotels when he's banned from the Chase Park hotel in St. Louis because he trashed his room.
whats ironic about that? those things dont connect in any context of irony.
@@Bullimicporkupine If you don't see the irony in it, I probably can't help you.
@@randybailin4902 seems like you need the help more lil bro. talking about nice hotels does not imply any guarantee or promise of not trashing nice hotels. An example of irony would be, if hans was talking about not having anger management issues, and then trashed a hotel room. Also, Chase Park Plaza is a 4-star if we're being generous. :D
@Bullimicporkupine the irony is that he's suggesting fancy hotels rooms are important but he's famous for trashing his hotel room. Your example of irony isn't irony at all.
@@brandon7733 who died and made u king of irony?
Hans has a point. However he should also be aware that he is talking to a future fide president.
Hans is rght and I am glad he said it so Sagar can hear it from high level GM. Even if he doesn't wish to ask FIDE to pay for hotels. Sagar IS the best commentator and should know he is valued and appreciated by everyone in the chess community!
All the tournaments should be held in Ghatkopar. Logistically that will be easier. 😂😂😅😅. On a serious note, Sagar does deserve a lot more but "more" for him is the growth of Chess globally!
I don't see anyone getting "humbled"
And here come the Indian viewers Hans. I dont know if this is your official channel, but be ready for a flood of people. Just don't get drowned
I think I think , he is kinda digging Indian fans , Idk maybe , But I like him . He kinda exploded in the chess scene(ik for all wrong reasons)but , if you see Gotham Chess you'll notice that he attracts same viewers as Magnus and Hikaru, Bad publicity is still publicity , and chess needs it .
sagar's long term vision is really good .
He convinced chessbase to open a sub-branch of chessbase in India , so they can sell chessbase software in cheaper price in south asian region .... cheaper price meant more sale and overall chessbase ended up earning more than before.
Then struck a deal with FIDE to let them access matches in all chess events , which technically FIDE should be owned and distributed by FIDE only.
This guy is a Lengendary Businessman.
As a chess fan and viewer of chadebaseIndia, I'd definitely want sagar to get special treatment for being the biggest chess creator from India. But sagar cannot ask for it by himself, it doesn't look right. Someone more influencial having contacts in FIDE should arrange it for sagar. I think vishy has some good connections, maybe he can do something for sagar, during the upcoming championship match.
I think Sagar Shah is the person who really understands how fragile the ecosystem is. Niemann’s opinion is distorted because he really does influence views and it’s intoxicating.
Niemann could be important to chess if he stops self-immolating. If not, he’s a foootnote
Hans has a point. Getting paid for the value-add is important. It is also good for Sagar-Amrutha's well-being and health. The only thing is that money and money should not get to one's head. Get small comforts but not seek entitled luxuries.
Asking for bare minimum accomodation and a transport vehicle is not to much Sagar is weird to thing he's "working on growing the chess together rather than himself".. sure buddy... At the end of the day you are a media person just like in another sport. It's besides the point you can afford the accommodation or not . Fide not providing you one is messed up . Acknowledge it and move and stop trying to be the bigger person
A random media person is not called "family" by the candidatrs winner...
thats the thing , sagar probably fears he will not even get invited if he tries to ask anything, back when he started he used to borrow money to get to these event without any fide invitation
@@sk-ig4wtbro then u definitely don't know much about sagar. As far as chess or any job is concerned I have never seen any man as passionate as sagar for his job and chess in general. He's doing it for chess...his purpose is to grow the game and players getting their due credit (money fame etc) like other sports. He does it for his love for chess. The man has streamed more than 20 hrs a day just because he had some guests lined up...this is how passionate he is. So it genuinely doesn't matter to him if fide facilitates him or not but yes I quite agree with Hans that being a big and growing channel and good track record sagar should get bare minimum facilities like accommodation and transport but this can easily be controversial because some other people can also ask for these things in the name of growing chess/popular streamers etc etc..
To add one more point, because of his passion and humble nature he has respect from almost every top players and all of them feel great while being interviewed by him or any interaction. He invites many players to streams etc all because of the respect he earned in chess world....
Naa bro, but here in india we have to show that we are humble
as samay said aag lagane ki poori koshis
We got Hans getting humbled by chessbase india before gta 6 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥
hans is fun person i had bad image of him from the news:)...........rooting for hans and samay stream
I totally agree with hans Sagar shah and his team deserves more. They cover the entire tournament with recap summary videos and showing each and every game with detailed analysis. Definitely lots of effort goes into the process. Kudos to Sagar shah and amrutha for outstanding work.
So glad, You appreciated. HansOP SagarShah OP
Sagar has seen days when no one was watching chess, and doing commentary to just 15-20 people. So he already has achieved huge. Thanks to CZcams.
Sagar is doing chess a huge service. he takes chessplayers all around the world. Already the best chess journalist ever and his legacy continues. We lessers of the chess world appreciate you Sagar otherwise we would never have these inside experiences.
that was awkward, they don't think like that, Hans wants everything handed to him
TBH Hans has a point though .
I am unsure if this was his intention.
But just mentioning India draws in a lot of us. This video has already become the most viewed video of this channel.
Agree with Sagar, everyone is interdependent and should grow together, no point in confronting authorities. Some are pushing this false narrative that Chess is shifting towards India , We shouldn’t fall for that. India is origin of Chess and we should excel in and demand larger role in governing body FIDE and for that we should take everyone along. A win-win for all approach.
Chessbase India clips made another channel in hans name?
Everyone here is forgetting that chess is not a very popular sport. In fact $5 million rematch between Fischer and Spassky in 1992 remains the biggest prize fund ever.
We got to agree on this
exactly like why should you be ashamed to demand value you provide?
You can clearly see how much he wants chess to be a big sport like cricket and football this guy will do everything for chess
no disrespect, but chess is already bigger than cricket
@@otrava88 ain’t no way brother that just delusion
@@Inningsinsider its only popular in former British Empire countries and not even olympic sport. Honestly i doubt someone in EU or CIS or even US knows the rules of cricket.
Great use of vibe - ratora
pretty weird situation but i don’t think they put price on people who cover the tournament
Sagar brings alot on table, Fide's biggest audience is from India, India's biggest serious chess coverage is done by Sagar. So Hans Niemann has a point, Sagar is biggest asset for Fide.
It is sagar who is humble.. Him being humble doesnt make all countrymen the same .. There are prideful people in the country too!
Love your content Hans ❤
BRO GOT ME HUMBLED
Niemenn is very different from regular Americans. He is more like us.
I think hans is right its important to command some amount of respect.
Funny how everyone forgot about what Hans did.
1:08 Sagar REALLY doesnt like this position Hans has him in.
Hans just doesn't get it 🤣
Don sagar need to talk to Fide
Why would Fide sponsper him.. he is with chessbase india.
Until Fide officially calls him they won't pay!
yeah they are giving too low to Sagar.
You think Danny Rensch is staying at an airbnb at any of these things he attends? No probably not unless he purposefully chose it, but he certainly doesnt pay for it himself.
okay but Hans when are you getting a better mic lol
true
Sagar deserves the whole world
True ❤❤
HANs is right
I think Hans is right. Now I slowly becoming fan of Hans
keeping aside all the exaggeration,
I think Hand as a very good point ❤
He really stuck to that accent 😂
hmmmm...... interesting.......
Everyone knowing Hans knows that he is exaggerating here. His point is thath they should give him a good place to stay close to work.
That being said there are very nice airbnbs, which are actually in many cases nicer than hotels.
My parents stay in a airbnb when they visit my sister in swiss, since hotels are just insanely expensive, and they basically have like half a house for them with like the nicest rooms
Hans ++
hard agree
I agree with Hans
Based hans repeating parts of marxist theory of value. Basically defended socialism here, probably without even knowing it lol :)
Only person Hans can beat is Magnus. Hans plays like a computer whenever he plays Magnus interestingly
Why am I getting old Indian cricket vibe. It’s same as we had to pay for broadcasting for the viewers we were bringing, he is literally bringing millions of views 😂😂😂 Good job FIDE
can't tell if this is sarcasm
Hans the 🐐
Yes, Sagar's contribution to Chess in INDiA is much bigger than FiDE 😂.
Yes Hans bro is correct❤
who is Hans niemann?
Ask to maguns. 😂
❤
I love this installment of Life of Jesus. And then Hans took Sagar to a five star hotel and said, it could be all yours if you but took what is yours. But Sagar answered onto the Hans and said that he was happy to be a grain of dust in this divine tapestry on the floor of his father's house. Next time please give an apple to Sagar and say it was from me. He is too pure, we must spoil him somehow :)))
Sagar needs to stand his ground! He should put all his chips on the table and say book me a 5 star or the only thing I'm covering is the ban on trans women playing chess in official women's tournaments!
Why is Hans talking with some faked Indian accent 😂
He's not. He speaks this same way against American and European interviewers.
That's Samay Raina's voice, you can hear him even when he's not on screen
@@commodoresan7275 no I'm talking about Hans cadence and style of speech, I can see his lips moving with the words
What is samay clown adding to the convo
More people and engagement to the game and some frustated losers too like yk🤡
Is he mocking their accents?
Nah Hans is known for his weird accents
Why is Hans pretending to have an accent?
Nice way of attracting Indian audience
😮😮😮
👏🙂
I’d take an Airbnb over a 5 star hotel any time
Bruh still 5 star is better man and even it's costly
Not really, home science takes time specially in this tight schedule
@@Shubham_Behera Strongly disagree
@@noedenisquentindodson2977Strongly agrees to disagree 👍
what dude Airbnb is more affordable @@Shubham_Behera
What the hell is with Han's accent? Is he Indian now?
You speak with the strangest acent, it sounds like english is a second language for you
Hans is so toxic
what's with the accent...
..
Hans is true.
Period.