Because A makes B irrelevant. Was it a bad idea from the start and no form of handling could make it right OR was it a good idea but the handling makes it bad.
@@L1feGoes0n yes but a bad idea was made even worse by its poor execution. e.g. I could run a marathon with no training (bad) or run a marathon with no training with no water and wearing a winter coat and die of heat exhaustion (very bad)
The fact is if we stayed in then we would have having the conversation about whether _that_ was the right thing to do and how come 'no further integration' looks a lot like further integration.
@@loc4725unlikely. Movements like leave get forgotten when they fizzle out, while the echoes of major changes like Brexit are felt forever. No one talks about the referenda that allowed the danish or the UK to keep their currency or that kept Norway out of the EU because they were not major changes. Accession and currency convergence like Greece is different.
@@jonathanodude6660 You're making the assumption that it would "fizzle out". There is a lot of hostility towards the E.U. here in the U.K. and I can tell you that should Brexit not have happened, each and every time we were dragged further into integration it would have been brought up. I also have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that a vote for 'remain' would have been interpreted, however conveniently, as implicit permission for us to integrate. And us staying out of the single currency came up *a lot* in the years before Brexit. It was only the 2008 financial crash which decimated the 'join' movement for instance, and I'm aware of the ongoing discussion in Norway about their position.
@@loc4725you're wrong. The younger generation 18-25 had started to integrate with the EU more than any previous one. Studying in Europe, working there, holidaying more than their parents or grandparents. They were used to multicultural groups at school and university. It was the older generation that will never see the benefit of leaving that voted to leave and it was the younger generation that never wanted to leave which has to live through the shitshow.
@@randomdaveUK *"The younger generation 18-25 had started to integrate with the EU more than any previous one. Studying in Europe, [...]"* Do you have any proof of this theory? I ask because it's pretty widely known that people start off liberal and move towards the right as they get older, and it tended to be right-leaning voters who voted for Brexit.
How could it have been a bad idea. Just every expert in 2016 said it was a bad idea. So much so Gove came out and told the world we are sick of listening to experts. Just following your gut and not listening to experts ends up with the country in the toilet.
First of all, of course you're right. Yes, every expert agreed that it would be bad. And surprise, surprise, every expert was right. However, I think a lot of voters have realised they are on the wrong side of things, while at the same time not understanding enough to vote for things that would fix it. It's something I like to call the Trump-Obama voting section. In the US there was a surprising number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 and Trump in 2016. For many it seems they were just voting for something different then what to current system offered. They just wanted something different. To use an example from pop culture, there a Chris Rock movie in which he plays a low level population who ends up in the presidential race and campaigns on the slogan "that sh!t ain't right". And uses to injustice felt by many to gain momentum. I think it makes a crude kind of sense from a game theory perspective, because even if there is a 95% chance the change won't help you, they see a 100% chance that more of the same won't. To use an example from the Brexit campaign, an expert was arguing that it would hurt GDP. In response a person in the audience, who was in an economically depressed area, remarked that it was "your GDP". Now it's worth remembering that he wasn't entirely wrong as a hit to the financial system of London wasn't the most pressing concern he had. Of course it's worth remembering that it would indirectly effect him and that these areas of economic disadvantage that voted so heavily in favour of leaving the EU were the greatest beneficiaries of the EU wealth redistribution funding. But he and many like him certainly felt left out, and without both the fact and an understanding of those facts fall back on gut feelings. It's just human nature. Just thought is was fuel for thought on why some many people ignore experts when forming opinions.
@@somethinglikethat2176 What can be done against "gut voting"? Because they become angry whenever you try to explain something to them, they are ignorant, and only want to fume. Someone said Trump was the human molotov cocktail that they have thrown at the system, but rioters should be punished...
Because propaganda is really good. Im not exaggerating if i say there's an information war and common people are losing. And I want you to really think about that word "war" because what they're doing to us is as bad as what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
@@thewhitefalcon8539yea, people in Britain got scammed really bad by the rich and powerful in UK. Referendum was mainly marketed as stopping immigration, and taking control of your own country. Of course people are going to vote yes. But after referendum everything changed. The rich and powerful started pushing money and their agendas for hard Brexit, as they thought that a regulation free Britain would make them even more rich, not caring about the people.
@@CKBmay10 that is a good joke! xD little hint: they are not in the goverment all the time, they couldnt do anything. the tory even manipulated the election, so there is that.
@@CKBmay10Corbyn fell into the hands of the Far Left who hate the EU for its capitalistic origins. Starmer saw that Brexit was stupid but he just doesn’t have the balls to actually do anything significant. I’m done with Labour now. My vote at the next GE will go to whoever promises PR and early re-entry to the EU.
@@MrViper5822 I disagree with your disagreement. I just think that the colour blue suits passports better (or I am just rather fond of the colour). Obviously I would not want to give away the Citizenship associated with the red passport.
The only problem was that the EU didn't act completely against it's own itself interest in negotiations for no reason whatsoever. That was the only flaw in the plan. Edit: those blue passports are straight 🔥
@@prideofdurham4776 no I don’t vote just because I want to I vote for policies and ideas I think are beneficial for society. Do you think Brexit is that, or are you just too stubborn to admit you were wrong?
The real questing on is, would the EU even let the Brits back? From what I’m seeing the UK just tends to bring a lot of drama in the EU and ever since they left things are going more efficient without them. It like breaking up with a toxic Ex, would you really want to take them back?
That's all nonsense we were one of the biggest contributors, they would definitely let us back in, I just think they would try to "punish" us for leaving in the first place. The drama only came from brexit itself, if not for that we were a great member.
@@loopholesloopy lol, suuuure we were. Farage told you that? You clearly aren’t aware of EU perceptions of the UK. They also would not punish us, stop acting like a victim or that they are bullies. They will simply offer no special treatment which would result in a worse deal than before for the UK. The only country actively trying to push people around is the UK trying to illegally ignore deals. Its also one of the ‘spiteful punishment’ countries with the way it treats refugees.
@@loopholesloopyou were a royal pain in the ass and we are happy you are gone. You are not missed. Let you back in? Why we already have Poland and Hungary as untrustworthy countries, why would we let you in? And those exceptions you had, forget about those.
People are asking the wrong questions. Do people want a new referendum? Would the EU accept us back? There's little evidence the answer to either is Yes.
Well there isnt much point asking that tbh. We’d need to rejoin on the EU’s terms meaning adopting the Euro, schengen and not getting the veto back. That would lower alot of support and if it were pushed through the moron diehard Brexit voters would riot. The only route back in is for the UK to be sufficiently humbled, to realize its no longer the empire and that its not able to push the big boys around. Once the stupid nationalistic rhetoric burns itself out, and people yearn for co-operation again maybe we can.
I would love to have the UK back. Its good for the economy and they are against centralisation. Europe should stand together. I want a loose but wide eu
I think the real question is not would the EU accept the UK back, but under what conditions? Would the UK consider joining the Eurozone? How about Schengen? Those would make a Brexit 2 much more difficult and probably be enough to convince most EU members to accept the UK again.
From the E.U.'s perspective I think you're right. The U.K. was acting like an anchor on further integration and "ever closer union", and now that we're gone this can continue at pace. Actually I'm surprised how little the E.U. had managed to do in that regard now that we're gone.
So just to name some brexit-benefits in the EU. - EU support has grown among EU citizens and separatists have been silenced. - If trump returns we definitely need parallel military structures. - Some places have taken over business from the UK, mostly Dublin. - People in some EU countries with traditionel bad and corrupt gouvernments will profit when more decisions are made in Brüssel rather than say Athen, Budapest, or Rom. - EU countries are braindraining britain now.
@@loc4725the main reason we haven't done that much is that the Veto Powers still exist, unfortunately. If/when the EU FINALLY Removes that stupid idea and moves to Majority voting or something like that, We'll be Golden!
It was a bad choice, but what makes it worse is that it can't be undone. Even IF the EU accepts the UK back in at some point in the future, they lost all the privilege and power they once held. They'd be at a disadvantage from here on out in addition to having all the EU pissed at them for leaving in the first place. It's like if some person joins a band, then gets greedy and wants more money and the band doesn't give it to them so they quit the band. Then they realize without the band they are literally nothing so they go crawling back to rejoin. It'll never be the same again.
@@ardent.aardvark Actually, they don't. They did believe it was the right move at the time through a combination of racism, ignorance, stupidity, and outright lies from the conservative party. But now that the dust has settled, they're waking up and realizing how stupid it was and wishing it hadn't happened. Everyone who wanted it to happen for economic reasons is realizing it was a bad call, only those who wanted it for racist reasons still think it was a good idea.
@danieltan8085 Cameron did not want brexit that's why he resigned. Boris wrote 2 papers one for in one for out but it was only a debating game for him loom what it did to our country project fear is reality now .
@@danieltan8085 in defence of David Cameron, Britain is a democracy and he gave the people a direct say. Is it really his fault that they chose (imo) wrongly? Maybe you could argue that is was too important and he shouldn't have, but where does that leave the British system? What other things would you say they shouldn't have a say in? Now tbf there are things like basic human rights you could point to but I would argue that this is quite removed from such matters. Unfortunately I think that while democracy is the best system we have, it does have it's flaws. Such as the direction of the country being decided by people who are well out of the depth on some many important issues.
Well, if the average Brit could see themselves as part of a larger community then remaining made sense. Unfortunately, that's not the case so you get what you vote for. I was first heart broken and now I'm tired of this nonsense.
Brexit was a really really terrible idea. The only possibilities for the government are very bad and extremely bad outcomes. The Tories have picked the latter.
The issue is the UK had some pretty sweet special conditions that it is not likely to get again if it were to rejoin the EU. Because it would send the wrong signal to other countries' populist movement. Brexit could have worked, Singapore, South Korea, at some point Hong Kong, were all smaller countries around a larger economic bloc that was able to stake out a pretty impressive economic record. But the people in charge of the UK were never actually sold on the idea, or ready to make the tough choices to make it successful. And so, here we are.
No, brexit couldn’t work. Singapore etc are in a significantly different part of the world. We just closed the doors on our closest trading partner. And people didn’t stop and actually think what that might mean.
@@phild8192 I'm not sure what the significantly different part of the world has to meaningfully do with it. If anything, it's harder, as the EU is not China, it isn't as overbearing and authoritative as China. And yet, those smaller countries have been able to create a pretty prosperous existence for themselves. And the UK did not close its door. The EU is still its largest trading partner, and will likely remain so. Now it is just a matter of building the infrastructure for that kind of relationship outside of the EU, and with the rest of the world.
@@jcf2322there is no infrastructure that can make the trade barriers go away Any company in the UK is at a disadvantage when competing with EU members for EU trade Geography means the rest of the world has similar issues for us. When trading with anyone in the Pacific, we are at a disadvantage when competing with companies who are based in the Pacific We are handicapped everywhere but our domestic market
It’s only been a few years. It’s way too early to judge whether it was a good idea or not. Most of Europe has been struggling due to Covid and the Ukraine war causing high inflation ect, so it’s not like it’s just the UK. We can judge if it was right or not in 10 years time.
It was always a bad idea. The reason the government put it to a vote was because they knew how great a deal it was to be in the E.U, and assumed the people would never vote to leave. When they did vote to leave, the government was screwed. They had never thought it was going to happen.
lol didnt you idiots vote though? not only vote but cheered heavily as i recall once brexit was on. And now shockingly the govt is to blame not at all the citizens who voted to get out of the EU.
@@gordonfleming458Good grief, all the immutable evidence telling you that the whole leave campaign was run on lies and the fact Britain is now populated by gammon brained so called 'patriots' that are happy to see the country shredded for some 'yet to be revealed' benefits.... sad
It's a moot point whether the government are handling brexit badly or not. How do you handle a turd? I guess it could have been handled less badly, but handling it well was never an option.
Yawn. It's one poll, we've no idea the sample size or demographic. Our government may be handling it badly, but it's OUR government, that's the point. We can get rid of them, whereas we couldn't with the EU suits.
exactly 😂 probaly 100 polled and somehow come to this its tragically hillarious,but we knew these remoaners would never quit crying and are willing to lie to convince the government we want to rejoin.i never considered myself European im British and thats good enough.
Call it how you like it as long as you stay out. Never take the BREXTRAITORS back, let starve and suffer. Before UK there so many more Nations who deserve the benefits of the EU more: UKRAINE, TURKEY, GEORGIA, ....
Ome thing to remember about leave voters thinking Brexit is handeled badly, does not mean about how it is mishandeled. Some will say it's bad because "not left enough" and others because "left too much"
It was purposefully not defined, so Brexit meant anything any brexiter wanted it to mean. Now, apparently, it is not the Brexit any of them thought they were voting for. What a surprise.
No. He said, "Not that brexit itself has failed. It is the failure to take advantage of it". So as usual, you are lying. You do not fool leave voters and supporters. You only delude yourself.
@@ja007mes5 blame for what? Brexit? You can "blame" *me.* I voted for it. The UK has cut loose from EU dependency and is forging its own path. We have our own FTAs and CPTPP membership. And soon we will have an FTA with India, among others. We have a tariff and quota free TCA with the EU. The UK will cut loose and diversify from the EU. Over 500 EU regulations will be sunsetted this year. Most of them are redundant but it's a start. More will follow. I don't need to "blame" anybody because I am not a remoaner. I have no axe to grind. Except the pace. We need to put clear blue sea between the UK and the EU.
For years and years, we repeatedly told people both in the government and citizens - that this was a huge mistake that everyone would regret. We were told, repeatedly, to sit down and shut up. Europe has no reason to take Britain bac- our government acted like spoiled bullies and made everything so much worse. Britain thought because it was once an empire with control over so much that Europe would beg us to stay, but they were so difficult Europe was begging us to leave by the end. If we are ever able to get back in, it will have to be with a new wave of governments, we'll have to grovel, and they still have no reason to take us back. I woudn't.
As a polish citizen living in the uk, I’m all for brexit. The Germans and French are not even shy about their ambitions to build the next USA in Europe (A horrible idea)
Good riddance to you too. Glad we left now. I was pro remain when I was in my teens and couldn't vote. But way too much bad blood now and I would firmly vote against ever re-joining.
I think the majority will agree Brexit has been handled very badly. That’s not to say the majority would want to rejoin! Due to an uncommitted Government lacking belief in Brexit, and remainers doing everything they can to sabotage it and put the country down it’s no wonder it’s not working out as it should. However - it’s still very early days and month by month, Brexit is looking better all the time. Look recently at the EU formally accepting the Malvinas name, with ‘friends’ like those sorry but that should tell you enough. There never should have been a political union. It may work for mainland Europe but not for us Brits.
With all respect, but could you imagine that no one from the EU wants the UK back. Lying, cheeting, cherry picking, unprofessionell handling by the UK leaders within the leave process...etc. That all was nerve wrecking for everybody on the continent. Not again. Leave means leave! Remember?
Nobody, absolutely nobody cares what your view is. We elected Boris Johnson with a huge majority to get brexit over the line. And we knew exactly what it meant. The remoaners gasped and embarked on their decades long whineathon.
The EU is a rules based organisation. The criteria are publicly available We have some work to do, but once we meet the criteria there's no reason other members would refuse our application 🙂
Personally I think it was an awful idea to even give the vote for this to the public - The public are not well informed enough about the ins and outs of how it all works to make a good decision
The public were not well enough advised - but the politicians were completely ignorant of the matter and refused to accept the will of the people anyway.
As a EU citizen, good riddance. At least one pain in the neck is gone. Note if we can only get Hungaria to do the same. But at least they know where the money comes from.
I love this comment, thank you for making it! It's rare to find a europhile who's willing to be honest. And you might be lucky, Hungary and perhaps even Poland might leave, and then there will be no obstacles to full and complete integration!
@@CartoonDrama44 I can see that developing into a problem. If further integration is to be achieved then their veto'ing power needs to be crimped if not removed completely. Should be interesting if / when that happens.
@@loc4725 why are you so afraid of "integration"? You have just joined the cptpp and now you get to sign all their rules into law and you never had a say in them. As to EU integration, we all trade together and trading means accepting a common set of rules. Those rules also include worker protections, consumer protection, food quality standards and health standards and much more. Maybe you are against all those things, but your factories still have to follow those rules if they want to sell to their biggest export market. You're out and now you can deviate your rules, but if you do, you cannot sell to your biggest export market. i.e. the EU. Then you joined another trading block and now you are going to accept their rules. Glad to see such morons go.
@@loc4725 You really expect the top two beggar nations will leave the EU? They are like a 26 year old living in his moms basement: always complaining, but never leaving or contributing, as long as mommy takes care of everything.
The UK is the only country to impose ecojojic sanctions on itself. The cost of living crisis is being exacerbated due to the UKs exclusion from the single market. The pains of a recession would still be here, but no where near as bad.
Most of the damage was caused by simply making the change and spending 7 years wasting time and resources trying to make it happen or unhappen. I think we were better off in the EU, but that now wanting to rejoin would again mean a few more years also wasted trying to make it happen (or not happen). It’s like spending 5 hours at work trying to decide what to do in that last hour you’ll have left… regardless what you decide, you’ve really wasted your day
@@andyeveritt9003 I really hope so.... The undemocratic European Union empire is like a pack of cards, you take one of them out and you can see the rest of the pack come falling down, it's going to be a glorious sight watching the globalists elite panicking i.e Klaus Swab, George Soros, Bill Gates and King Charles plus the world leaders puppets of the Globalist.
I think the UK would only be accepted back with no "toggles", get the Euro and join fully or stay as it is. I am not sure though, that could perhaps turn the tides in the voting poles, a lot of Britts wouldn´t accept a full membership. Seems the Britts want the ice and the topping, no cone.
The Euro really is a sticking point, likely the biggest. A lot of people who would otherwise want to rejoin, myself included, would reject based on having to adopt the Euro. Everything else, yeah sure all for it, but the Pound Sterling is a part of the British Identity.
@@MarvoloSalazar I don't think that would necessarily be the case. The U.K. coming back _on the E.U.'s terms_ would look like an absolutely massive endorsement. But on the other hand I suspect that's why we haven't seen any significant push to rejoin from all those Remainers. Right now from the U.K.'s point of view the cost / benefit of E.U. membership doesn't look so attractive.
Wow, who would’ve thought Brexit was a bad idea? Oh yeah, millions of us and many of those like myself who couldn’t even vote at the time but now have to live with the consequences.
shut up josh you have no idea what your talking about,you probably didnt know brexit happened and certainly wouldnt have known why we left you have just grown up listening to people like this youtuber convincing you that you left something that was great.
The meagre lead of the Leave vote from the referendum informed the government the country wanted at best a soft Brexit, remaining part of the Single Market and Customs Union, with freedom of movement, which was near enough what the Leave campaign promised. Except the Tories went ahead with a hard Brexit, that benefitted some bankers but harmed every business that relied on trade with the EU. Every government economic impact assessment predicted the UK economy would be worse outside the EU, so things were destined to fail, however Boris and his Tory ERG bozos chose to make it worse with the desire to rip up workers rights and environmental protections, and pay Britons slave wages. It hasn't quite worked out like that because Leavers never did the Maths to find out how many businesses relied on EU workers...
@@gordonfleming458 There was only one EU election after the referendum. In every EU election the UK voter for more pro-Europe MEPs than pro-Brexit MEPs. In 2019 pro-Brexit parties won 33 seats, against 37 for pro-European parties. And 43.6% of votes for the Conservatives isn’t even a majority, meaning that not even Boris “get Brexit done” Johnson truly won the election. So how do know you won? More leave voters have died and remain voters are eligible to vote now. To say the referendum is the will of the people is untrue: it’s the will of dead people. And would rather the UK follows the will of the living, not the dead. And most of the living want to rejoin.
It has literally destroyed my ability to move freely. I have saved up 2k only to have to spend it on a visa. But that is the only option you have now. Life isn't free like it used to be. You can't just hop on a plane and get a job in a bar... the difference is beyond insane.
How do you know? A majority of 45+ voted leave. I bet over a vast majority are still alive. If you were 45 or even 55 seven years ago you’d still be below the state retirement age. I doubt a large portion of the workforce has dropped dead.
I vote leveing but I didn't vote for asylum seekers too be let in costing the the taxpayer 7 million pounds a day and I didn't vote sunak put the UK in to poverty but he's blame the Ukraine war all the time
Remember what Leave voters said.."Just believe", "if you believe in Britain it will happen". Well guess what...it didn't. Brexit was a bad idea, I blame Farage the instigator and catalyst of Brexit, who then dropped out of politics because he knew it wouldn't be good. He chose to shout from the sideline, so no mud would stick on him. A questionable character.
I think the uk has three options 1. Continue to think that everything is fine 2. Re join and follow all eu rules (using euro) 3. Try to form a union with other nations (e.g CANZUK)
CANZUK will never happen, I'd love it to happen but it's just not logistically smart, the countries are far too separated geographically, I think pipe dreams like this are just encouraging britons to continue to pretend brexit could become a good thing when it will not.
@@joannelewis3390 Yea because price rises and cost of living is exclusive to the u.k only🤣🤣all because of brexit 🤣🤣you people don't even know what your talking about.its hilarious.
The margin was so close that the ones who tipped the vote in favour of Leave are probably dead now considering Leave voters were disproportionately older… It wasn’t about class either, working class areas in Scotland voted to remain. It was bigoted, petty little Englander attitudes that did it.
That right if you don’t get your way resort to school play ground tactics of name calling such as ‘little Englander’ and ‘bigoted’. But as you brought it up I would rather be a little Englander than a little European. There is a big wide world out there beyond Europe if you’d just open your eyes! Brexit voters were Internationalists who had understood this. And on Brexit voters being older (in other words those who can remember the UK outside of the EU). The fact they voted for Brexit provides additional evidence that the right decision was made.
@@jaexiusnem1267 The UK should be on WTO rules, completely cut from EU law. Then our own bill of rights to supersede the human rights, removing trans and making Christianity the only religion that can be practiced.
I was studying abroad in Tokyo when Brexit happened and I was taking International monetary economics, so it was really neat to watch a country shoot itself in the foot economically. For the rest of the semester, my professor kept using real world examples from the UK. But then I remembered that this isn't theoretical stuff in a lab, it's people who are going to suffer.
@@michaelmaynard9166 No. They do not. If you are dumb enough to fall for those "polls" then more fool *you.* YouGov had REMAIN winning 52 v 48 the very evening of the referendum. It had Conservatives winning a 20 seat majority in 2019 and would not rule out a *hung parliament.* Forget them. They are twaddle. Though I realise anti brexiters thrive off twaddle and magnify it to the heavens.
@@michaelmaynard9166 Anti brexiters are liars. It's all they ever do. You have not a single good reason for UK membership of the EU. Which is why you constantly whine about brexit. You've nothing else to say.
@@RFBarbarossawe got vaccines before the rest of the EU, and being out of the Eu meant we were able to support Ukraine earlier than the other countries. We also had the chance to persue a less economically damaging covid policy outside of the EU but the government screwed that one up. There are some benefits, but clearly many negatives.
@@elliotbroadhurst7142 trolololo, the vaccine rollout? I live in the Netherlands and got my full jabs weeks ahead of my peers in the UK. They got their first jab first but had to wait much longer for the second one, which was the one that counted. Thats such a bs trumped up claim Johnson loved to make. Why do you still believe it?
@@elliotbroadhurst7142you actually believed the vaccine thing? When Britain first rolled out the vaccine we were still actually in the European medicines agency so it made no difference whether we were in or out. This claim was just one of Boris Johnson’s many lies.
Leaving the EU was a necessary step toward eventually leaving the ECHR so we can st last control our borders. We haven't got that yet. But it is there for when we have to.
Yougov polling being performed on a tiny minority that doesn't represent a meaningful cross section of British society but ok. Brexit was good, the Tory handling of it was bad.
"Was it a bad idea from the start or was it the government's handling of it?"
Why not both?
Because one of those might not be true?
@@loc4725Or both could be right
Inclusive or
Because A makes B irrelevant.
Was it a bad idea from the start and no form of handling could make it right OR was it a good idea but the handling makes it bad.
@@L1feGoes0n yes but a bad idea was made even worse by its poor execution. e.g. I could run a marathon with no training (bad) or run a marathon with no training with no water and wearing a winter coat and die of heat exhaustion (very bad)
The fact that 7 years later we are still arguing whether Brexit is right or wrong should be the most embarrassing hint of them all.
The fact is if we stayed in then we would have having the conversation about whether _that_ was the right thing to do and how come 'no further integration' looks a lot like further integration.
@@loc4725unlikely. Movements like leave get forgotten when they fizzle out, while the echoes of major changes like Brexit are felt forever. No one talks about the referenda that allowed the danish or the UK to keep their currency or that kept Norway out of the EU because they were not major changes. Accession and currency convergence like Greece is different.
@@jonathanodude6660 You're making the assumption that it would "fizzle out". There is a lot of hostility towards the E.U. here in the U.K. and I can tell you that should Brexit not have happened, each and every time we were dragged further into integration it would have been brought up. I also have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that a vote for 'remain' would have been interpreted, however conveniently, as implicit permission for us to integrate.
And us staying out of the single currency came up *a lot* in the years before Brexit. It was only the 2008 financial crash which decimated the 'join' movement for instance, and I'm aware of the ongoing discussion in Norway about their position.
@@loc4725you're wrong. The younger generation 18-25 had started to integrate with the EU more than any previous one. Studying in Europe, working there, holidaying more than their parents or grandparents.
They were used to multicultural groups at school and university.
It was the older generation that will never see the benefit of leaving that voted to leave and it was the younger generation that never wanted to leave which has to live through the shitshow.
@@randomdaveUK *"The younger generation 18-25 had started to integrate with the EU more than any previous one. Studying in Europe, [...]"*
Do you have any proof of this theory? I ask because it's pretty widely known that people start off liberal and move towards the right as they get older, and it tended to be right-leaning voters who voted for Brexit.
The Brexit paradox: There are capable politicians that could handle Brexit properly, but none of them would have done Brexit.
Name one
I don’t know if that’s true 😂😂
It certainly is a case of a bad idea that was also implemented badly
Never forget, the day after the Brexit vote to leave the EU, the number one Google question in the UK was" what is Brexit"
It was “what is the eu” I believe ;)
I love democracy
Facepalm !
....and somehow we know that those people were the one who voted to leave, right?
And that was the leave voters. Right?
How could it have been a bad idea. Just every expert in 2016 said it was a bad idea. So much so Gove came out and told the world we are sick of listening to experts.
Just following your gut and not listening to experts ends up with the country in the toilet.
First of all, of course you're right. Yes, every expert agreed that it would be bad. And surprise, surprise, every expert was right.
However, I think a lot of voters have realised they are on the wrong side of things, while at the same time not understanding enough to vote for things that would fix it.
It's something I like to call the Trump-Obama voting section. In the US there was a surprising number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 and Trump in 2016. For many it seems they were just voting for something different then what to current system offered. They just wanted something different.
To use an example from pop culture, there a Chris Rock movie in which he plays a low level population who ends up in the presidential race and campaigns on the slogan "that sh!t ain't right". And uses to injustice felt by many to gain momentum.
I think it makes a crude kind of sense from a game theory perspective, because even if there is a 95% chance the change won't help you, they see a 100% chance that more of the same won't.
To use an example from the Brexit campaign, an expert was arguing that it would hurt GDP. In response a person in the audience, who was in an economically depressed area, remarked that it was "your GDP".
Now it's worth remembering that he wasn't entirely wrong as a hit to the financial system of London wasn't the most pressing concern he had. Of course it's worth remembering that it would indirectly effect him and that these areas of economic disadvantage that voted so heavily in favour of leaving the EU were the greatest beneficiaries of the EU wealth redistribution funding. But he and many like him certainly felt left out, and without both the fact and an understanding of those facts fall back on gut feelings. It's just human nature.
Just thought is was fuel for thought on why some many people ignore experts when forming opinions.
@@somethinglikethat2176 What can be done against "gut voting"? Because they become angry whenever you try to explain something to them, they are ignorant, and only want to fume. Someone said Trump was the human molotov cocktail that they have thrown at the system, but rioters should be punished...
Because propaganda is really good. Im not exaggerating if i say there's an information war and common people are losing. And I want you to really think about that word "war" because what they're doing to us is as bad as what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
@@thewhitefalcon8539yea, people in Britain got scammed really bad by the rich and powerful in UK. Referendum was mainly marketed as stopping immigration, and taking control of your own country. Of course people are going to vote yes. But after referendum everything changed. The rich and powerful started pushing money and their agendas for hard Brexit, as they thought that a regulation free Britain would make them even more rich, not caring about the people.
A Tory Goverment would handle a Brexit badly? Shocker!
Cannot disagree but… Labour with Corbyn or even now has not had the courage to provide a Remain/rejoin alternative. So equally responsible .
@@CKBmay10 that is a good joke! xD
little hint: they are not in the goverment all the time, they couldnt do anything.
the tory even manipulated the election, so there is that.
@@CKBmay10Corbyn fell into the hands of the Far Left who hate the EU for its capitalistic origins. Starmer saw that Brexit was stupid but he just doesn’t have the balls to actually do anything significant.
I’m done with Labour now. My vote at the next GE will go to whoever promises PR and early re-entry to the EU.
a Tory Government handling anything badly? Shocker!
A Tory Government would handle badly? Shocker!
You mean leaving the economic area that we sent HALF of all our exports to was a bad idea??! * cries in blue passport *
The blue passport is cool though
-Sincerely, red-passport Union citizen.
@@quuaaarrrk8056Have to hard disagree on this - soon to be holder of blue passport upon renewal
@@MrViper5822 I disagree with your disagreement.
I just think that the colour blue suits passports better (or I am just rather fond of the colour). Obviously I would not want to give away the Citizenship associated with the red passport.
The only problem was that the EU didn't act completely against it's own itself interest in negotiations for no reason whatsoever.
That was the only flaw in the plan.
Edit: those blue passports are straight 🔥
@@MrViper5822 bad news for you - the new passports are BLACK not blue - another lie!
As A British citizen it was wrong that we left the EU Brexit is horrible
@@prideofdurham4776why?
@@prideofdurham4776just vibe? No other reason?
@@prideofdurham4776 🤦♂️
@@prideofdurham4776 Football teams don't have policies, and supporting them doesn't have economic or political consequences for the entire country.
@@prideofdurham4776 no I don’t vote just because I want to I vote for policies and ideas I think are beneficial for society. Do you think Brexit is that, or are you just too stubborn to admit you were wrong?
The real questing on is, would the EU even let the Brits back? From what I’m seeing the UK just tends to bring a lot of drama in the EU and ever since they left things are going more efficient without them. It like breaking up with a toxic Ex, would you really want to take them back?
That's all nonsense we were one of the biggest contributors, they would definitely let us back in, I just think they would try to "punish" us for leaving in the first place. The drama only came from brexit itself, if not for that we were a great member.
@@loopholesloopy lol, suuuure we were.
Farage told you that?
You clearly aren’t aware of EU perceptions of the UK.
They also would not punish us, stop acting like a victim or that they are bullies. They will simply offer no special treatment which would result in a worse deal than before for the UK.
The only country actively trying to push people around is the UK trying to illegally ignore deals.
Its also one of the ‘spiteful punishment’ countries with the way it treats refugees.
@@loopholesloopyif they did let the uk back in it won’t be any time soon and not on the same terms as before.
@@loopholesloopy it’s that same British exceptionalism mentality that got the UK into Brexit in the first place
@@loopholesloopyou were a royal pain in the ass and we are happy you are gone. You are not missed. Let you back in? Why we already have Poland and Hungary as untrustworthy countries, why would we let you in? And those exceptions you had, forget about those.
People are asking the wrong questions. Do people want a new referendum? Would the EU accept us back? There's little evidence the answer to either is Yes.
Well there isnt much point asking that tbh.
We’d need to rejoin on the EU’s terms meaning adopting the Euro, schengen and not getting the veto back.
That would lower alot of support and if it were pushed through the moron diehard Brexit voters would riot.
The only route back in is for the UK to be sufficiently humbled, to realize its no longer the empire and that its not able to push the big boys around.
Once the stupid nationalistic rhetoric burns itself out, and people yearn for co-operation again maybe we can.
I would love to have the UK back. Its good for the economy and they are against centralisation. Europe should stand together. I want a loose but wide eu
Actually the answer to both is 'yes' according to polls and interviews of EU officials
Nope
I think the real question is not would the EU accept the UK back, but under what conditions? Would the UK consider joining the Eurozone? How about Schengen? Those would make a Brexit 2 much more difficult and probably be enough to convince most EU members to accept the UK again.
The polls before the 2016 vote predicted a vote to remain.
As an EU citizen I say that it was a bad decision from the british perspective, but a good one from my perspective.
You're welcome!
From the E.U.'s perspective I think you're right. The U.K. was acting like an anchor on further integration and "ever closer union", and now that we're gone this can continue at pace.
Actually I'm surprised how little the E.U. had managed to do in that regard now that we're gone.
I don't think it benefitted the EU either tbh
So just to name some brexit-benefits in the EU.
- EU support has grown among EU citizens and separatists have been silenced.
- If trump returns we definitely need parallel military structures.
- Some places have taken over business from the UK, mostly Dublin.
- People in some EU countries with traditionel bad and corrupt gouvernments will profit when more decisions are made in Brüssel rather than say Athen, Budapest, or Rom.
- EU countries are braindraining britain now.
@@loc4725the main reason we haven't done that much is that the Veto Powers still exist, unfortunately.
If/when the EU FINALLY Removes that stupid idea and moves to Majority voting or something like that, We'll be Golden!
It was a bad choice, but what makes it worse is that it can't be undone.
Even IF the EU accepts the UK back in at some point in the future, they lost all the privilege and power they once held. They'd be at a disadvantage from here on out in addition to having all the EU pissed at them for leaving in the first place.
It's like if some person joins a band, then gets greedy and wants more money and the band doesn't give it to them so they quit the band. Then they realize without the band they are literally nothing so they go crawling back to rejoin. It'll never be the same again.
You mean, it wasn;t *your* choice. But the UK electorate disagrees with you.
@@ardent.aardvark Actually, they don't.
They did believe it was the right move at the time through a combination of racism, ignorance, stupidity, and outright lies from the conservative party.
But now that the dust has settled, they're waking up and realizing how stupid it was and wishing it hadn't happened. Everyone who wanted it to happen for economic reasons is realizing it was a bad call, only those who wanted it for racist reasons still think it was a good idea.
Brexit was only for Boris to become PM , LOOK HOW BAD THAT WAS.
Brexit promised poverty for us
A promise of poverty has been delivered by withholding the lower levels of GDP in the G7 nation's 😂😂😂
it was david cameron who made brexit referendum a part of his campaign, not boris
@danieltan8085 Cameron did not want brexit that's why he resigned.
Boris wrote 2 papers one for in one for out but it was only a debating game for him loom what it did to our country project fear is reality now .
@@danieltan8085 in defence of David Cameron, Britain is a democracy and he gave the people a direct say. Is it really his fault that they chose (imo) wrongly?
Maybe you could argue that is was too important and he shouldn't have, but where does that leave the British system? What other things would you say they shouldn't have a say in?
Now tbf there are things like basic human rights you could point to but I would argue that this is quite removed from such matters.
Unfortunately I think that while democracy is the best system we have, it does have it's flaws. Such as the direction of the country being decided by people who are well out of the depth on some many important issues.
Well, if the average Brit could see themselves as part of a larger community then remaining made sense. Unfortunately, that's not the case so you get what you vote for. I was first heart broken and now I'm tired of this nonsense.
Well, if the "larger community" cared at all (not in a hostile way) about the "average Brit" I would not have voted to leave.
Voting with passion anger and hate is only going to bring about bad results. What comes around goes around
@@alberain If you need someone to stroke your ego join a cult not a union.
@@alberain no one cares you voted accept your decision and tell your colleagues to stop whining consistently over their own decisions
@@MarvoloSalazar Oh no, I am definately still glad to have left, your spitefullness only confirms my point.
Brexit was a really really terrible idea. The only possibilities for the government are very bad and extremely bad outcomes. The Tories have picked the latter.
Oh my goodness look at the size of my gas and electric bill....no the problem is foreigners
@@joannelewis3390the problem is rhe cosnervatives, immigrsnts are one of rhe few good things going for us
Placing economic sanctions on your own economy is indeed a bad idea.
Free movement of people...also ment free movement for us
Shocking, but the British are actually people.
Ive never wanted to live in the eu so im good
@@aaroncousins4750 nice you only care about yourself like the classic Brexit voter. Well done chap.
What's not free movement
@@jonsmith5058 i fully support your right to leave, i would love for u to do so. Doesnt change the fact im anti immigration
Brexit was a bad idea, and Boris didn't even know how serious Ireland Northern Ireland border issue will be
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. George Carlin
The issue is the UK had some pretty sweet special conditions that it is not likely to get again if it were to rejoin the EU. Because it would send the wrong signal to other countries' populist movement.
Brexit could have worked, Singapore, South Korea, at some point Hong Kong, were all smaller countries around a larger economic bloc that was able to stake out a pretty impressive economic record. But the people in charge of the UK were never actually sold on the idea, or ready to make the tough choices to make it successful. And so, here we are.
No, brexit couldn’t work. Singapore etc are in a significantly different part of the world.
We just closed the doors on our closest trading partner.
And people didn’t stop and actually think what that might mean.
@@phild8192 I'm not sure what the significantly different part of the world has to meaningfully do with it. If anything, it's harder, as the EU is not China, it isn't as overbearing and authoritative as China. And yet, those smaller countries have been able to create a pretty prosperous existence for themselves.
And the UK did not close its door. The EU is still its largest trading partner, and will likely remain so. Now it is just a matter of building the infrastructure for that kind of relationship outside of the EU, and with the rest of the world.
@@jcf2322there is no infrastructure that can make the trade barriers go away
Any company in the UK is at a disadvantage when competing with EU members for EU trade
Geography means the rest of the world has similar issues for us. When trading with anyone in the Pacific, we are at a disadvantage when competing with companies who are based in the Pacific
We are handicapped everywhere but our domestic market
It’s only been a few years.
It’s way too early to judge whether it was a good idea or not.
Most of Europe has been struggling due to Covid and the Ukraine war causing high inflation ect, so it’s not like it’s just the UK.
We can judge if it was right or not in 10 years time.
It was always a bad idea. The reason the government put it to a vote was because they knew how great a deal it was to be in the E.U, and assumed the people would never vote to leave. When they did vote to leave, the government was screwed. They had never thought it was going to happen.
This government can't make nothing but debt and bad decisions 🙄
Here here
lol didnt you idiots vote though? not only vote but cheered heavily as i recall once brexit was on. And now shockingly the govt is to blame not at all the citizens who voted to get out of the EU.
Still angry that a vote ever happened
So as a European you don’t need to vote unless it gets the results you want 🤡🤡🤡
@@gordonfleming458Good grief, all the immutable evidence telling you that the whole leave campaign was run on lies and the fact Britain is now populated by gammon brained so called 'patriots' that are happy to see the country shredded for some 'yet to be revealed' benefits.... sad
It's a moot point whether the government are handling brexit badly or not. How do you handle a turd? I guess it could have been handled less badly, but handling it well was never an option.
We handled the stinking, rotten EU pile of poop by *sacking it.*
The best thing we ever did . only regret is we have never had a government which has implemented brexit they have all frustrated brexit
spot on
They voted for catchy slogans and a few vague promises.
And lies.
Voted to take back our country😂you people still crying about seems it hurt you more than us😂
If you slithered out of your bubble you might know they actually voted for a restoration of their elective power.
Yawn. It's one poll, we've no idea the sample size or demographic. Our government may be handling it badly, but it's OUR government, that's the point. We can get rid of them, whereas we couldn't with the EU suits.
can't belive anyone is still so ignorant about the EU
exactly 😂 probaly 100 polled and somehow come to this its tragically hillarious,but we knew these remoaners would never quit crying and are willing to lie to convince the government we want to rejoin.i never considered myself European im British and thats good enough.
@@awpqq How did the UK government have any control over anything that came under the auspices of Maastricht, supposedly non-ignorant person?
Why would they want to rejoin? None of the reasons for leaving have changed.
Regrexit?
bregret
To Right
That's amazing
@@StephenManchester and at stage of global warming...that was very stupid time waisting fuckery thing to be focusing on
Call it how you like it as long as you stay out. Never take the BREXTRAITORS back, let starve and suffer. Before UK there so many more Nations who deserve the benefits of the EU more: UKRAINE, TURKEY, GEORGIA, ....
Rubbish More people would Vote out because of the way the EU are acting towards the UK.
Ome thing to remember about leave voters thinking Brexit is handeled badly, does not mean about how it is mishandeled.
Some will say it's bad because "not left enough" and others because "left too much"
It was purposefully not defined, so Brexit meant anything any brexiter wanted it to mean.
Now, apparently, it is not the Brexit any of them thought they were voting for.
What a surprise.
EU falling apart, hahaha 😆. most of Europe going right ✅️ 😅 🤣
Even farage said brexit has failed
No. He said, "Not that brexit itself has failed. It is the failure to take advantage of it".
So as usual, you are lying. You do not fool leave voters and supporters. You only delude yourself.
@@ardent.aardvark who would take the blame then!? Tories?!
@@ja007mes5 blame for what?
Brexit?
You can "blame" *me.*
I voted for it.
The UK has cut loose from EU dependency and is forging its own path. We have our own FTAs and CPTPP membership. And soon we will have an FTA with India, among others.
We have a tariff and quota free TCA with the EU. The UK will cut loose and diversify from the EU.
Over 500 EU regulations will be sunsetted this year. Most of them are redundant but it's a start. More will follow.
I don't need to "blame" anybody because I am not a remoaner. I have no axe to grind. Except the pace.
We need to put clear blue sea between the UK and the EU.
@@ja007mes5
Do you acknowledge your lie?
@@ardent.aardvarkyour a legend sir.
Dear TLDR News and the UK: the EU doesn't want you back and you're not getting back in. So count on living with that regret.
It was the right decision.
Right to leave and nothing’s changed.
For years and years, we repeatedly told people both in the government and citizens - that this was a huge mistake that everyone would regret. We were told, repeatedly, to sit down and shut up. Europe has no reason to take Britain bac- our government acted like spoiled bullies and made everything so much worse. Britain thought because it was once an empire with control over so much that Europe would beg us to stay, but they were so difficult Europe was begging us to leave by the end. If we are ever able to get back in, it will have to be with a new wave of governments, we'll have to grovel, and they still have no reason to take us back. I woudn't.
We dont want to go back this poll is full of it,probably polled 100 liberals 😂😂
51% when 49% voted out, not exactly wild is it
Should have remained in EU
As a polish citizen living in the uk, I’m all for brexit. The Germans and French are not even shy about their ambitions to build the next USA in Europe (A horrible idea)
If the UK stayed in they could have blocked this from happening. Can't do that from the outside
As an EU citizen I am glad Britain has left the union. It had been a pain in the ass for so long, good riddance.
Splendid. Then you can undestand why we couldn't wait to get rid of the arrogant, corrupt EU.
Feelings mutual lad.
Good riddance to you too. Glad we left now. I was pro remain when I was in my teens and couldn't vote. But way too much bad blood now and I would firmly vote against ever re-joining.
@@CountryGalB good
@@CountryGalB 👍
I think the majority will agree Brexit has been handled very badly. That’s not to say the majority would want to rejoin! Due to an uncommitted Government lacking belief in Brexit, and remainers doing everything they can to sabotage it and put the country down it’s no wonder it’s not working out as it should.
However - it’s still very early days and month by month, Brexit is looking better all the time. Look recently at the EU formally accepting the Malvinas name, with ‘friends’ like those sorry but that should tell you enough. There never should have been a political union. It may work for mainland Europe but not for us Brits.
That's what happens when you're not at the table any more. Things would be very different if the UK still had seats in the EU
keep your seats
With all respect, but could you imagine that no one from the EU wants the UK back. Lying, cheeting, cherry picking, unprofessionell handling by the UK leaders within the leave process...etc. That all was nerve wrecking for everybody on the continent. Not again. Leave means leave! Remember?
Trust me they polled 100 people most of us are happy to be by ourselves😂dont let these youtuber antibrexiteers convince you otherwise.
Worst thing ever to have happened to this so called UK.
Glad to disappoint you.
Biggest mistake was getting involved in WW2 and saving what you call the EU😂
Truth is most brits didn't even know what brexit was
They - it was a racist thing and we all knew it
The ones who voted to *leave* did. They wanted to axe the EU after over twenty years of their arrogant behaviour.
source:
trust me bro😂😂
@@SmashAllahracist against other white Europeans😂😂stfu
Nobody, absolutely nobody cares what your view is.
We elected Boris Johnson with a huge majority to get brexit over the line. And we knew exactly what it meant. The remoaners gasped and embarked on their decades long whineathon.
When you have a say in what your biggest trade partner does, don't back out of that arrangement.
That's the same YouGov who's "on the day" poll said we would vote to remain. 😂😅😂
From the start it was wrong to leave, government's handling of it only made it worse.
Tough. The leave vote won and the skanky remoaners lost.
That's great, but why do Brits think the EU would let them rejoin?
They don't
The EU is a rules based organisation. The criteria are publicly available
We have some work to do, but once we meet the criteria there's no reason other members would refuse our application 🙂
we dont and we dont want to,dont let this remoaner convince you otherwise.
MONEY
Tldr places way to much importance on polling
I would have liked to have seen us leave but have a competent government in charge of it all instead of the useless Tories
It wouldn’t have gone much better.
@@phild8192explain why?
Personally I think it was an awful idea to even give the vote for this to the public - The public are not well informed enough about the ins and outs of how it all works to make a good decision
Worse, you were lied to and too many were very eager to gobble those lies.
who lied louise hmmm?
The public were not well enough advised - but the politicians were completely ignorant of the matter and refused to accept the will of the people anyway.
Please don’t think it’s dangerous 😂
As a EU citizen, good riddance. At least one pain in the neck is gone. Note if we can only get Hungaria to do the same. But at least they know where the money comes from.
I love this comment, thank you for making it!
It's rare to find a europhile who's willing to be honest. And you might be lucky, Hungary and perhaps even Poland might leave, and then there will be no obstacles to full and complete integration!
@@loc4725i don't think they will leave soon, they like to complain and veto everything, but they also like their sweet EU money.
@@CartoonDrama44 I can see that developing into a problem.
If further integration is to be achieved then their veto'ing power needs to be crimped if not removed completely. Should be interesting if / when that happens.
@@loc4725 why are you so afraid of "integration"? You have just joined the cptpp and now you get to sign all their rules into law and you never had a say in them.
As to EU integration, we all trade together and trading means accepting a common set of rules. Those rules also include worker protections, consumer protection, food quality standards and health standards and much more. Maybe you are against all those things, but your factories still have to follow those rules if they want to sell to their biggest export market. You're out and now you can deviate your rules, but if you do, you cannot sell to your biggest export market. i.e. the EU. Then you joined another trading block and now you are going to accept their rules.
Glad to see such morons go.
@@loc4725 You really expect the top two beggar nations will leave the EU?
They are like a 26 year old living in his moms basement: always complaining, but never leaving or contributing, as long as mommy takes care of everything.
The implementation of Brexit was wrong, that doesn't mean Brexit was wrong.
Wrong - but I voted Remain anyway, and still would
The UK is the only country to impose ecojojic sanctions on itself. The cost of living crisis is being exacerbated due to the UKs exclusion from the single market. The pains of a recession would still be here, but no where near as bad.
Nah it’s due to net zero policies and money printing
Ecojojic
The UK isn't in recession... the EUs biggest economy IS!!!.... Have a Coffee, my lovely
We probably are
too late. Thank Tories for that...
Get rid of Tories first.
And? Even Labour and the LibDems are not enthusiastic to rejoin. It’s hopeless.
It was rushed. It was a hasty decision that nobody wanted. It was stupid.
It was a historical mistake. I want back! Unity is everything! We are right out in the rain, under no umbrella.
Go live in france then.we wont miss you lad.
Most of the damage was caused by simply making the change and spending 7 years wasting time and resources trying to make it happen or unhappen. I think we were better off in the EU, but that now wanting to rejoin would again mean a few more years also wasted trying to make it happen (or not happen).
It’s like spending 5 hours at work trying to decide what to do in that last hour you’ll have left… regardless what you decide, you’ve really wasted your day
The Decade of utter self-humiliation.
Sadly it will take a decade of pain before the die hards actually understand
It sure has helped the EU where countries now line up to join and no one wants to leave watching what it has done to the UK. So a big thank you
That's funny isn't Poland and Italy thinking of doing a referendum to stay or leave or did you not see it on the BBC
@@siscott6066 looks like the Dutch might follow . EU could be falling apart
@@andyeveritt9003 I really hope so.... The undemocratic European Union empire is like a pack of cards, you take one of them out and you can see the rest of the pack come falling down, it's going to be a glorious sight watching the globalists elite panicking i.e Klaus Swab, George Soros, Bill Gates and King Charles plus the world leaders puppets of the Globalist.
I think the UK would only be accepted back with no "toggles", get the Euro and join fully or stay as it is. I am not sure though, that could perhaps turn the tides in the voting poles, a lot of Britts wouldn´t accept a full membership.
Seems the Britts want the ice and the topping, no cone.
No, we want the cone + some low fat ice cream but what we're being offered is an American size ice cream sundae with corn syrup dumped on top.
The Euro really is a sticking point, likely the biggest. A lot of people who would otherwise want to rejoin, myself included, would reject based on having to adopt the Euro. Everything else, yeah sure all for it, but the Pound Sterling is a part of the British Identity.
@@MrViper5822 we don't want you back anyway.
Letting Britain join back would be a bad look for the EU. Not happening anytime soon
@@MarvoloSalazar I don't think that would necessarily be the case. The U.K. coming back _on the E.U.'s terms_ would look like an absolutely massive endorsement. But on the other hand I suspect that's why we haven't seen any significant push to rejoin from all those Remainers. Right now from the U.K.'s point of view the cost / benefit of E.U. membership doesn't look so attractive.
Wrong. Shouldn’t have left. 🇬🇧🇪🇺
Brexit was a xenophobic tantrum, and British people deserve to experience the consequences of their actions for once
Wow, who would’ve thought Brexit was a bad idea? Oh yeah, millions of us and many of those like myself who couldn’t even vote at the time but now have to live with the consequences.
shut up josh you have no idea what your talking about,you probably didnt know brexit happened and certainly wouldnt have known why we left you have just grown up listening to people like this youtuber convincing you that you left something that was great.
The meagre lead of the Leave vote from the referendum informed the government the country wanted at best a soft Brexit, remaining part of the Single Market and Customs Union, with freedom of movement, which was near enough what the Leave campaign promised. Except the Tories went ahead with a hard Brexit, that benefitted some bankers but harmed every business that relied on trade with the EU. Every government economic impact assessment predicted the UK economy would be worse outside the EU, so things were destined to fail, however Boris and his Tory ERG bozos chose to make it worse with the desire to rip up workers rights and environmental protections, and pay Britons slave wages. It hasn't quite worked out like that because Leavers never did the Maths to find out how many businesses relied on EU workers...
We also had 2 European elections and a general election all of which you lost
@@gordonfleming458 There was only one EU election after the referendum. In every EU election the UK voter for more pro-Europe MEPs than pro-Brexit MEPs. In 2019 pro-Brexit parties won 33 seats, against 37 for pro-European parties.
And 43.6% of votes for the Conservatives isn’t even a majority, meaning that not even Boris “get Brexit done” Johnson truly won the election. So how do know you won? More leave voters have died and remain voters are eligible to vote now. To say the referendum is the will of the people is untrue: it’s the will of dead people. And would rather the UK follows the will of the living, not the dead. And most of the living want to rejoin.
It was always a dumb idea.
complete bollocks we all want to stay oit of the EU
It has literally destroyed my ability to move freely. I have saved up 2k only to have to spend it on a visa. But that is the only option you have now. Life isn't free like it used to be. You can't just hop on a plane and get a job in a bar... the difference is beyond insane.
blame your fellow citizens who cheered heavily during brexit
poor you im sure you could go on a dinghy over to france and claim asylum then you can become a EU citizen again😂😂
A lot of leave voters have died from old age the last few years
You can die at a young age too.
How do you know? A majority of 45+ voted leave. I bet over a vast majority are still alive. If you were 45 or even 55 seven years ago you’d still be below the state retirement age. I doubt a large portion of the workforce has dropped dead.
@@clmclmn21he doesnt😂😂
I vote leveing but I didn't vote for asylum seekers too be let in costing the the taxpayer 7 million pounds a day and I didn't vote sunak put the UK in to poverty but he's blame the Ukraine war all the time
Remember what Leave voters said.."Just believe", "if you believe in Britain it will happen". Well guess what...it didn't. Brexit was a bad idea, I blame Farage the instigator and catalyst of Brexit, who then dropped out of politics because he knew it wouldn't be good.
He chose to shout from the sideline, so no mud would stick on him.
A questionable character.
I think the uk has three options
1. Continue to think that everything is fine
2. Re join and follow all eu rules (using euro)
3. Try to form a union with other nations (e.g CANZUK)
How is trading with countries on the other side of the planet beneficial?
4. Create canzuk as well as return to the Schengen and customs union.
@@muraaz2edits548agreed
CANZUK will never happen, I'd love it to happen but it's just not logistically smart, the countries are far too separated geographically, I think pipe dreams like this are just encouraging britons to continue to pretend brexit could become a good thing when it will not.
@@Matttski Australia, US, Canada, NZ and Japan are frequent traders with the UK. So, its a good trade idea but not a true replacement to the EU.
These britons can't make up their mind 😂
Those of us who voted Remain haven't changed our minds, not even those who have pretended they have to be MPs.
We constantly being lied to and gaslighted
We got what we wanted its the same people who were crying about it almost ten years ago who are trying to convince you otherwise.
Enjoy your price rises. That's what you voted for
@@joannelewis3390 Yea because price rises and cost of living is exclusive to the u.k only🤣🤣all because of brexit 🤣🤣you people don't even know what your talking about.its hilarious.
The margin was so close that the ones who tipped the vote in favour of Leave are probably dead now considering Leave voters were disproportionately older…
It wasn’t about class either, working class areas in Scotland voted to remain. It was bigoted, petty little Englander attitudes that did it.
That right if you don’t get your way resort to school play ground tactics of name calling such as ‘little Englander’ and ‘bigoted’.
But as you brought it up I would rather be a little Englander than a little European. There is a big wide world out there beyond Europe if you’d just open your eyes! Brexit voters were Internationalists who had understood this.
And on Brexit voters being older (in other words those who can remember the UK outside of the EU). The fact they voted for Brexit provides additional evidence that the right decision was made.
The UK was never a team player in the EU, always looking for "special" status. All EU is glad it's gone
It was a bad idea from the start. It was so surprising to see Brits being happy leaving the EU, its like someone being happy making their own coffin..
😂😂been around a lot longer than the EU.keep reaching tho.
If you shorten the word Pakistani it's classed as Racist, so please don't shorten British!
Bruh why is this channel so damn hard remain
This channel is not shy on showing its pro labour politics
They're still salty that labour heartlands voted heavily to leave. 😂😂😂
Brexit Means Brexit. BritainOUT
We have already voted right or wrong it's done....
Get Brexit MORE done. More isolation. More bureaucracy. More stiff upper lip 😂😅I 😅I
Keep calm and hope... lol
We still haven’t left
The hell does this even mean
@@jaexiusnem1267 The UK should be on WTO rules, completely cut from EU law. Then our own bill of rights to supersede the human rights, removing trans and making Christianity the only religion that can be practiced.
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I was studying abroad in Tokyo when Brexit happened and I was taking International monetary economics, so it was really neat to watch a country shoot itself in the foot economically. For the rest of the semester, my professor kept using real world examples from the UK. But then I remembered that this isn't theoretical stuff in a lab, it's people who are going to suffer.
our choice and like always we will be ok,we are a tough people that existed hundreds of years before the EU 😂😂
Well, it sucks to suck. Have fun future Brits when you finally rejoin but don't get the special treatment that you previously had.
Yes, Brexit was a terrible idea
17.4m voters don't agree with you.
@@ardent.aardvark these days they do
@@michaelmaynard9166
No. They do not.
If you are dumb enough to fall for those "polls" then more fool *you.*
YouGov had REMAIN winning 52 v 48 the very evening of the referendum. It had Conservatives winning a 20 seat majority in 2019 and would not rule out a *hung parliament.*
Forget them. They are twaddle. Though I realise anti brexiters thrive off twaddle and magnify it to the heavens.
@@michaelmaynard9166
Anti brexiters are a terrible idea. Seven solid years of abject failure.
@@michaelmaynard9166
Anti brexiters are liars. It's all they ever do. You have not a single good reason for UK membership of the EU. Which is why you constantly whine about brexit. You've nothing else to say.
It is a great opportunity that was squandered by an incompetent government
But what exactly was there to achieve outside the EU you couldn't do in it?
What opportunity exactly? What is there we couldn’t do ?
@@RFBarbarossawe got vaccines before the rest of the EU, and being out of the Eu meant we were able to support Ukraine earlier than the other countries. We also had the chance to persue a less economically damaging covid policy outside of the EU but the government screwed that one up. There are some benefits, but clearly many negatives.
@@elliotbroadhurst7142 trolololo, the vaccine rollout?
I live in the Netherlands and got my full jabs weeks ahead of my peers in the UK.
They got their first jab first but had to wait much longer for the second one, which was the one that counted.
Thats such a bs trumped up claim Johnson loved to make. Why do you still believe it?
@@elliotbroadhurst7142you actually believed the vaccine thing? When Britain first rolled out the vaccine we were still actually in the European medicines agency so it made no difference whether we were in or out. This claim was just one of Boris Johnson’s many lies.
Leaving the EU was a necessary step toward eventually leaving the ECHR so we can st last control our borders.
We haven't got that yet. But it is there for when we have to.
you are incharge of your boarder's and they are incharge of the other 26 countries closest to you
Whatever. Tired of this Brexit story. Voted out, we stay out. We get what we deserve. Move on.
I always thought it was a bad idea. Being part of a big union is always better than being alone outside.
Why? The EU is a cartel. A den of thieves.
Based off what?
The UK electorate doesn't agree with you.
Was brexit a bad idea from the start? It's a fact Brexit was/is a bad idea. Putting up questions like this is how you get (brexit)ants.
nope wrong. everyone i know who voted out didnt change their mind. more nonsense
It's young people who couldn't be bother to vote in the referendum who are the ones who caused this.
British exit regret syndrome: Bregretdrome
The EU is struggling and is not sure that will survive.
Yes and i'm sure this YouGov poll somehow managed to represent everyone in the uk and not just a few hundred to a thousand?
Yougov polling being performed on a tiny minority that doesn't represent a meaningful cross section of British society but ok.
Brexit was good, the Tory handling of it was bad.
Brexit was good? The only thing it could have ever done was raise import tariffs with one of our closest and richest trading partners.
It was a mistake to leave the EU. But now we are out i think we should stay out