Bold and the Beautiful Tom’s Killer Revealed - Sinister Sister Conspiracy
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In the gripping world of Bold and the Beautiful, fans are currently focused on the mysterious death of Tom Starr (Clint Howard) and the multitude of suspects in his unexpected demise. Belynda from Soap Dirt lists five potential culprits, including Poppy Nozawa (Romy Park), who had a heated argument with Tom over the paternity of her daughter Luna Nozawa (Lisa Yamada).
Other suspects include Bill Spencer’s (Don Diamont) ex-lawyer, Justin Barber (Aaron D. Spears), a known henchman, and Jack Finnegan (Ted King), Li Finnegan's (Naomi Matsuda) ex-husband. Li herself is another suspect, with her unexpected presence at Il Giardino raising eyebrows.
Lastly, Sheila Carter (Kimberlin Brown), a perennial suspect in any Bold and the Beautiful whodunit, cannot be overlooked. Next week, the discovery of Tom's backpack is expected to reveal crucial information, transforming this case from an accidental overdose to a murder mystery on the CBS soap opera.
Amidst the suspense, speculation is rife about a possible conspiracy between sisters Poppy and Li, with Belynda suggesting a potential blackmail scenario involving Luna's true paternity. As the mystery unravels, viewers will be on the edge of their seats, speculating and looking for clues in this compelling soap opera narrative.
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I totally agree with you., I found it odd that a Ii Li being a doctor didn't lift her finger to help a man that was dying .
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead/... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Yes Li didn't do anything to save Tom when he was dying and she's a doctor. She should of done something but didn't.
@@laurapoynter2970I think Li killed Tom. But it wasn't Poppy. And Katie is making me absolutely 💯 sick. She didn't want Bill until she was being nosy😂. But I pray Bill is Luna Dad, she deserves to be happy
@@JackieMarie-ec6bq IT was Poppy /who tried to kill Tom it will be a shocker Tom isn't dead!
Yeah what was that about
i dont get how Tom thinks he is for sure the father when Poppy was a free spirit and probably slept around
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! /Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! But because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!!/ Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! / I bet everyone is in on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy/ We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
...i dont get how Poppy waited years to say Bill MIGHT be the father.. just how many men was she sleeping with during that time?
Yeah! That makes no sense specially when she recommended with Bill & he asked several time if he was Luna’s father? She always replied NO! I just don’t trust Poppy at all! 😮
Meant reconnected with Bill
@@rasun316 obviously quite a few!!!!
I think it could be right if they worked together on something. I really don’t want Finn to be Luna’s dad!!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! i bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone is there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone is to see her reaction first!
This is a set up to expose Poppy! /This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or a rich Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Finn is probably Lunas sister...until the story line comes out that Finn is actually Lauren Finnmore's son ...Lauren & Scott's baby that Shiela stole and switched...just thoughts
I think Jack is Luna's father.
@@brendajohns6313 I could definitely work with that theory! Seems much more plausible to me!! I absolutely 💯 can’t believe that SheCON is his mom. She’s too Vindictive. Also with his dad back on the soap on Friday I believe something is happening and going down!!
That hippie look was laughable
I agree the hippie look was laughable. 😅
It was strange to me that Li just watched
exactly!
Yes, that is strange , considering that she is supposed to be a doctor, and their oath is “Do No Harm “.
@@kathyturney4243 exactly!
The guy couldn't sing. It was awful.
He sounded kind of Bob Dylanish. He had a vibe. I was looking forward to hearing more from him.
@@MsBlue049🙋♀️me, too!
Truth
@@LucyLennon20OMGodness!! NO!!!😂
I know it
My vote is Li, she faked the test too bc either Jack or Finn is Luna's dad and she knows it
But Poppy bought it. So how? What's your theory?
100% agree with you Li is a killer and bring fake DNA result those two sister agreed something I feel it
@@notthe1orthe241 Li brung her own test she didnt trust Poppy or her test
Please don't let it be Doctor Li. I do not want her to end up in prison and off the show.
Poppy is a throwaway character. Let her be the killer. We do not like Poppy.
How did li fake test result when it was a cheek swab test. Bill read out the results not li. The test was a false positive that's the only explanation
Poppy was shocked when she found out he died, Li is so guilty but why would she do this if she's so against poppy..... the storyline makes no sense
@@sk8rfamily l really don’t think Poppy was to shocked, if so maybe because someone beat her to it. When Bill told her; her facial expression made me question her sincerity 🤔
@margaretlewis9116 I thought same til next episode after that one. I don't think poppyhad anything to do with his demise but time will tell
@@sk8rfamilyLi or Jack killed that man. Li was shocked when it was determined that Bill was Luna Dad. Nobody switched the test. Bill is for the right thing. They stood there the whole time.
@JackieMarie-ec6bq that's what I thought too so that makes me wonder why he was actually killed. I don't think Li switched it up no way she could have when she did it all in front of them. Tom couldn't be the baby daddy.... I'm curious where the writers r trying to take this cause it would be rewriting history just very stupid if u ask me.
Because Li knows either Finn‘s dad or Tom was Luna‘s dad, so she wanted her niece Luna to have a rich father so they could be better off
Yeah so many cringe moments 😂
I think it could be Li. She sat there when Tom collapsed. Being a doctor you’d think she’d rush to help?
Absolutely! She saw he was dying bid did NOTHING to help him; and yet 'bad girl' Sheila tried to get his heart started again. It looks like Sheila changing is the real deal this time. That's why I thing Li, Poppy, or Jack(a possible wild card), could have been the killer. I am certain his death was murder and not merely an overdose
Li knew that Bill was not Luna's father. That's why Li insisted on doing the paternity test. She was the only one that saw the test results.
EXACTLY !
@@shirleys.6352Well that right there is suspicious ! It might very well be Bill , or it may not be. Li is obviously the only one who
Knows .
Li said she always has to clean up poppy mess
Maybe we'll find out why Jack and Justin are back .While Jack was trying to talk to Li she was looking around in the air like she was expecting something to fall on her. Some Evil Doctor Li is. Sat on the chair like she didn't see Tom fall. Deacon,Hollister and Shelia rushed to try and help.They saw her there..
Agree. That was so low budget. Looks like he went to the Halloween store 😂
The outfit was from Temu
@@MsBlue049 😂😂😂
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😂😂😂😂😂😂❤@@MsBlue049
@@MsBlue049Ha ha that's hilarious...
I 100% believe it is Li and she will frame Sheila because of her hatred of her ..
She has every right to hate Sheila , she tried to kill her. Remember those scenes? I do.
OMG, that could be very true, LI, who WAS THERE, looking very angry or constipated 😅 LOL. SHE very well could have pulled it off. Oh well, we shall see, won’t we? Just hate this whole low class thing going on with this show.
I totally agree with your sister conspiracy!!!
That’d be great if it’s Li. Would she know Poppy’s connx maybe? At least it will get rid of her when she is caught. She’s an absolute crap actress. And why does she have an accent but Poppy doesn’t 😮
@@rendaowe, but Li always looks angry😂. She told Tom that she was there for a pick up, but stayed for the performance 🤔. I hope is not Li, it will really shock Finn & Sheila won’t loose the opportunity to get close to him, but this time, he won’t reject Sheila & this will pissed Stuffy sooo bad! I hope that 😮Tom was Luna’s father & Bill will still adopt her while Poppy serves prison time. However, the older Spencer boys, Liam & Wyatt, will welcome Luna to the family, Liam already did! But when it gets to be Will’s turn to welcome her new sister, he won’t like her & he’ll try to interfere in their relationship with Katie, (his mother’s ) help!
That young Tom was creepy and laughable at the same time. A real groaner
But now we see exactly why Poppy was in love with him. He was very charming back then.
Old Tom looks Creepy Too!!!
Clint Howard (Tom) was a cute child actor in the late 1960s TV show, "Gentle Ben", if anyone remembers. There are clips on CZcams.
@@sylviasolis743 Yes, and he also played "Leon" on the Andy Griffith Show. His brother in real life, Ron Howard, played Opey.
My Mother taught me if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. So I'm saying nothing!
I'm with you 😂
Sadly this is a lost art these days tho!!
I’m just sad about Tom😢
Then you'll be a sucker all your life!
@@DorisBlackwell-rx7zz Be never afraid to speak your mind otherwise every time you look in a mirror you see a weak sucker!
I don't think Bill is her dad either, right I wonder why li didn't step up to help Tom she was acting weird
Let's get this storyline done...who is this child's Father. Stop putting Luna through this emotional roller-coaster.
They should've just went on the Maury Povich show.
Finn is r father r his dad Poppy was wildi in her day
@@sherrymitchell3192
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
yes indeed and it's cruel to continue to keep putting Luna thru all this.
EXACTLY !
Why does Bill need to adopt Luna if he believes she is his daughter? Did he adopt Liam and Wyatt?
So can get his Spencer title
Change her last name to Spencer. Makes it legal.
So that he can legally change her last name to Spencer ! Her last name on her birth certificate is Poppy’s last name.
Probably so , because they both carry Spencer as their last name. You have to remember both boys were born to single mothers .
I think you are right. Poppy is no innocent and Li knows how bad Poppy can be. Why were Li and Jack there? Li is a doctor she should have helped.
me too and I feel that poppys hiding something big
I wonder what it is?
finn looks too young to be Luna's dad
how can the heck could he be Luna's dad? doesn't make sense to me
@@donnaatienza8001I don’t think Finn is Luna’s dad.
I just hope this storyline goes quick and isn't drug out. I'm not a Poppy fan. I like Bill but I don't think that he and Poppy click even if they have history. Bill really needs to be with someone like Phyllis Summers on Y & R 🤷♀️
I agree with you! There is absolutely no chemistry between them!
@@user-pl7jw4hk5e More like Audra if she can be sincere🤔
Put Bill and Katie back together. I can't stand how Poppy talks to Katie. All of a sudden she is so Uppity. Don't make Luna pregnant. You went that route but stopped it. Let that go. Hope needs to be back with Thomas. Paris thinks she is the queen now. You put them together way too soon. Thomas left Paris' sister at the alter. If you don't put Hope and Thomas back together then have Hope go after Finn. Steffy made it so miserable when Liam and Hope wanted to be together. That was horrible. Steffy needs a taste of her own medicine. She came between Hope and Thomas to end that. These headaches that Hope is getting could make her not know what she is doing so let her go after Finn. Steffy needs to stop being in charge. Let HRTF survive just to piss Steffy off. Don't bring Justin back. Li is so mean. Get Poppy gone.
Phyllis would be s good woman for Bill . Not only is she smart , but she is very attractive , and she is independent, and doesn’t act all needy and weak .
😂
Li killed Tom
Well it can't be Sugar.
Poppy and Tom look crazy
Creepy
Oh yes I thought it was her for sure when I saw her standing in the background but Not helping Tom !!!!!
B and B recycled Taylor's old wig! 😂😂
😂🤣
That's hilarious they could have used one of Stuffy's wigs.
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@@notthe1orthe241 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cherylmilke313 Is anyone else sick to death of Steffy? I fast forward all her scenes. I hope Finn leaves her for Hope. He needs someone genuine.
I think Luna's Father is either Finn or Li's ex husband. That would explain the hatred between the sisters.
Em SA (Bold Fan for 30 years)!
They would have been better off hiring younger actors to portray both young Poppy and Tom. LOL
Agree!! I recently commented the same thing on someone else's B&B review. That low-budget flashback was ridiculous.
Can't expect much for a short scene!@@deeking914
they didnt want to pay standin's
Cheap wigs & accessories from the dollar store.
Yeah BUT THAT would be extra money they would have had to pay those younger actors! Cheaper to use the actors they have.
I don’t think it was Sheila who killed Tom. She was giving him CPR
Good cover story for Sheila! She has killed b4.
I don't it's Shelia either..I think it's a conspiracy to do in a few folks.
@@kkennedy1773, she made peace with Tom & I really think that she was fond of her. You guys can call me crazy, but I think that marring Deacon, made a big difference in Sheila’s life & she’s really trying to become a better person. She did save Kelly when she was drowning, something that Stuffy seemed to forget! 😮
It was not Sheila stop 🛑 the Nonsense
@@lesliesyville8560 That’s what I said. I said it wasn’t Sheila. She was giving him CPR so I know it was not her.
I am starting to believe Bill may already know Poppy is not being honest.
He probably has had Justin to investigate Poppy.
Bill doesn't seem to be in love with Poppy. He just seems to want the child to be okay. Love that about him.
Hope he goes back to Katie, they still love each other.
@@I.J.eprice9147HELL NO! Katie doesn’t love Bill, she just wants to use him, because she’s in between men right now ! Typical Logan behavior !
Ok I like your thought pattern about Bill., but let me add this. There's not much Bill does not know about right? he's what you might would call the Victor Newman of BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL! Bill is upto something, I think? I will write my full comments. In a separate reply
(This is a LONG REPLY it will take a minute to read)! This is my take on who killed Tom. Bill put out the order to take care of this. Why? 1. Remember when Tom delivered the un ordered pizza, Luna told Bill pizza guy was giving Poppy a hard time and Bill said no body gives my family a hard time and how does anyone just come in through the gates. My thoughts are Bill found out about Tom and Poppy ok here comes the interesting part, Bill had Justin there following Poppy and possibly to take Tom out. Or Bill knows that Li, falsified paternity test and threatened her and she could lose her medical license so he had her kill Tom because she is on someones phone video not helping Tom and then disappearing, Jack was there to confuse viewers. I don't think Finn is the father, I never really thought Bill was she said from beginning it was not Him but I did think it was Jack. Also Bill may have had Li, frame Sheila for Tom's murder as part of his plans, you know he can't stand her and don't forget how Bill played every one when he was messing with Sheila. BILL IS BOOGER X3. well that's my take on it . Will see who gets in Jail this time. Or maybe Tom's not Dead😅😅
That Flashback was worse
Your "5-Suspect" List📝and "motives" cover all the bases. I agree with your "Sister Conspiracy". Li Finnegan did look out of place at Tom Starr's concert. She has motive, too. Time will tell. Thanks, SoapDirt and Belinda for keeping us informed.
Li did it. She thinks she is God.
Why was she there? Why was Jack there
Maybe fin is lunas dad.
@@nicolettehecker1111
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
@@nicolettehecker1111I doubt that !
@@kathyturney4243 I hope she’s not fins I will be done with the show. I hope it’s either Bill or Jacks who is her dad.
I think Finn or Jack is Luna's dad. Li would do anything to protect Finn and maybe to keep Poppy's clutches off Jack. Tom forcing a new paternity test may be what Li was trying to prevent. Poppy may not be involved. Given Li's attitude toward Poppy I thought it was odd how easily she accepted the paternity results.
@pamelapayne3158 I've always believed that *Doc is Huckleberry Finn* is *Luna Lagoona's Dada!.*
I'm intrigued by your theory about Li doing the deed to keep Poppy's silence about something in the past.... but from the start... the weird appearance of Justin had me thinking on those same lines you mentioned... He found out (or Bill did) that Tom was claiming paternity...so he did the dirty deed for his *Boss* once again. Finally... the writers have at least given us some fun mystery!!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
I think Li did it to cover up the fact that she messed with the paternity test. Mostly because she didn't help him, and she is a doctor sworn by oath.
Ha ha.. that oath means nothing to docs.
@@vivavita3769You are wrong about that ! The oath means a hell of a lot to doctors ! I know that for a fact because my neice is s doctor !
They should have just used different actors altogether for flashback. We would have understood.
Think that is was Li. Thought that when I watched it
/This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Right on, Belinda! Li did this to protect Jack or Finn! Had to say something!
She hates Jack. She also hates her sister. I don't see she protecting either one of them. I don't think that she killed Tom.
Finn😮
Yes of course Sheila is going to be the fall girl she do a lot but not this. And dang that old video of them just WOW.. Li is cold hearted she's the force and didn't help the man. She is the killer rig the test and so it's got to be Finn is Luna dad and that may send him to hope as well she going to him after this now I love Thomas crap and if Thomas is not being real with this marriage then he's back to his creepy self
Li cannot be the killer as she is kind of a regular on the show as Finn's adopted mother. So it is most likely to be either Justin Barber or Jack Finnegan as they appeared out of nowhere all of a sudden. We don't have to worry about the motive just as yet as the producers themselves are still trying to figure out how to come up with the most plausible plot.
What is with all the murdering on the show?😂😂😂
I’m thinking the same thing!! We’ve already got to grin and bear 🐻 it with SheCON forever staring us in the face every single day 🤯!!
Completely agree… so much violence has been committed recently it’s crazy (almost like they know they’re going down once the Gates (Soap Opera) starts
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This show needs Hallmark. We have enough evil in this world. Can we atleast watch more love Joy and happiness, family values
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Tom wasn’t really dead? Like Finn. Like Sheila😂
And you are so right about the whole scene Balinda
I've been thinking from yhe start that it was Li ...
Poppy is definitely a gold digger but when the truth comes out she will see a side of $bill she doesn't want to see
I believe Bill already knows what a gold digger Poppy is/ and Poppy is being set up! /And Li Jack Justin and Bill knows Poppy tried to kill Luna's dad Tom!
I would love it if Katie was the one somehow to find out Poppy is lying to Bill!! She already told Bill that she didn't trust her and she just can't put her finger on it yet. It will come out out that she is lying!!!
My theory is Li poisoned him to keep him from telling the world he was Luna’s dad. Li has known who her dad was and wanted to make sure she did the paternity test to make sure Bill was the father
I pray his old but is not that girl daddy that funny 😳😆😆😆
The soap operas are driving us fans to have a glass of wine HA Ha Ha 🤣 🤣🤣
There may be m0re men that Poppy slept with that weekend.
The hand that put the poison powder in Tom's drink looked like a Women size glove. Yes Belinda, I agree it put and End to the singing 😅😅😅
Justin could’ve lured poppy to to town
Mm 🤔🤔maybe
Justin may have killed Tom, he may have had a problem with Tom years ago. Funny they brought him on.
I think if Lea had anything to cover up it’s that she knows her sister slept with her husband, or son and doesn’t want that to come out. That is why she may go to extremes to hide Luna’s real father.
The name is Li not Lea 😊
I thought I was spelling it wrong! Thank You :)
I thought that Li's reaction to the paternity test was odd.
She was very matter of fact and accepting of the results rather than being crushed.
It seems strange she would deceive Bill , but she fears the truth about Luna's paternity being revealed the most of all.
The sister conspiracy is the most clever answer to Tom's murder.
Then if that's TRUE, then Li has ALWAYS known Luna's paternity!!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! i bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone is there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone is to see her reaction first!
Or maybe Poppy did put the poison in the drink and everyone knew she was going to! the entire thing is a set up!
I think Li we will see. I wanted it to come out Tom was the Daddy.
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This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
The real crime here is them expecting us to believe Tom was EVER a rock star. Even crazier, a rock star with groupies. He couldn’t sing a correct note to save his life. Come on man.😂😂🤣🤣
@twils1132 Paris can't hit a proper note up in it either!.They would've been a perfect match for each other>>>>>>> *A HOBO and his pet POOCH😁🤣👍!.*
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If Willy Nelson can have groupies so can Tom 😂
My God, My God..
Such Jealousy and No Class At All, Your "HORNS" are Showing Dragon Lady, You Are NOT Someone To make comments referring to Paris As A "Pooch".
You Surely Are NOT a Beauty Queen, NOT by a Long Shot...Get A Personality.
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Did poppy stop craving the “mints”??
It seems Bill too always the pills
Belinda, Out of these 5 suspects I can see Sheila being #1 because of her history, however, how could Justin be in the picture, didn't Bill get rid of Justin? I thought he was working for the Forrester's. When did Justin go back to Bill? I did NOT see these two reconcile again and how in the heck does Bill know Tom, what business does he have to kill the guy. Jack, I don't think so BUT for SURE "LI", she has more of a motive because she knows her sister's history AND she WANTS so BAD to get Sheila back into jail, I would NOT be surprised if Li is setting up Sheila. Poppy, I don't think so, she doesn't look like she would harm him BUT Li would for sure. If you noticed when Tom collapsed she didn't bother to get up to check on the guy she just sat there in her seat watching him die.
/There is no death but a tempted murder!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Bold has become very much about murder and it seems to be what Bell 🛎️ is eager to write about.. ugh can’t believe anyone wants SheCON on our screens every single day!! I just can’t!!
A joke: Someone who loved real music killed Tom. They couldn't stand another verse of that song, or the other songs we were thankfully spared from hearing...only seeing reactions.
@@glennlrw 😅
@glennlrw 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Right On Dude!!!!!
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It was awful. Surprised I didn't hear dogs howling in the distance! Oooooo!
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You nailed it !!!
They better not blame Shelia
forgot to say I'm not too crazy about poppy and or her sister.
@@donnaatienza8001well That’s your opinion; not everyone agrees with you !
There’s not anything you can do , if they do blame Sheila ! 😆😆😆😆😆
Do you remember how Shelia came up to the bar like she was in a hurry and looking innocent.
Yes! I noticed that, when she walk up after we saw the hands
Good Morning Beylnda ❤️🤍💙🇺🇸
They shouldve had RJ & Luna play young Tom & Poppy.
Right! I like that idea 😂😂
Seriously! THAT was a young Tom and a young Poppy?
I am with you 100%. Luna and R J should have played young Poppy and Tom.
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NO ..because 20 yrs later some people can still look nearly the same
The writers could have this murder mystery going in 12 different directions bc the viewers only see what's shown to us, and everything else is hypothetical. The least likely suspect would be Sheila since she's not involved in the Luna daddy story.
Li could have tampered with the paternity test alone, with Bill or Poppy. Maybe Jack knows something about Tom or Justin & Bill found out the truth about Tom.
My theory is that / This is a poppy setup! similar to Sheila's setup/
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Finn is not Luna’s father if that’s what people think you would think that Finn would remember that
That’s what I’m thinking. Finn would know.
That was the funniest flashback ever 😂😂😂
I’m not able to stomach this soap anymore. It’s so horrible
I suspect Jack is Luna's father and Finn is her half brother. Li decided to help Poppy make it really look like Bill because she didn't want anyone to know her ex-husband (Jack) really was Luna's father. Bringing Even more disgrace to her family, especially after uncovering Sheila was Finn's real mother. And because Tom thought for sure Luna was his daughter, his questioning Would eventually lead them to the real father, Jack!!!!... So my only ? is ; Did Jack help the sisters keep this secret by killing Tom ❓❓
If they make Li the killer and Sheila the saint im truly done watching and i promise that the writers are horrible its sad.
What happened to Luna being pregnant? Have not heard a peep
As much as I want Sheila to be the real killer, I fear that Poppy and maybe her sister Li instead have actually something to do with Tom's murder sadly.
I'm rooting for Aunt Katie and Mommy Hope to win in this battle for their beloved men>>>>>>>>Aunt Katie(Stallion) Mommy Hope(Thomas).Mr. Bell sir,please rid us of *Poppy The 4mer Pill Popper* and *Paris,Thomas' Pet Pooch* PERMANENTLY!.Some of these other storylines in *IMO* can just take a back seat for a while.I do believe still that *Doc Huckleberry Finn* is the one that fathered *Luna Lagoona* not *Stallion* or *Tom 'Hobo' Starr or even Pa Finnegan!.*
It does not have to be Logan’s!
I enjoy your podcast Belynda!
I believe Li’s problem with Poppy is that Poppy slept with Li’s husband and Jack is Luna’s dad. Li’ fixed the DNA to prove Bill is the dad instead of her husband. Tom’s killer is Li after Poppy told Li what Tom was planning to do bc why didnt Li try to help when Tom passed out? 🤷♀️
Yes, you are right. I said this over and over that Finn is Luna’s dad and not Bill Spencer.
@@bevolynwottrich2964 I concur with u 100%👍!.
It's Tali If Bill was smart he would know what is going on with Poppy & Li. Kaite did tell Bill that she has a funny feeling about Poppy and he should keep his eyes open. I do think Li killed Tom she had her reasons. I don't know what Justin's SL and Jack knows Poppy I wonder if he had some conction with her in the past? Any way I think Deacon & Finn will do some detective work Tom's backpack will give alot off answers I bet. Thanks for Spoilers and update Belinda
By the time we work out who Lunas father is the show will probably be axed the way it is going with the ratings
Good work detective Belinda 💯 I agree
I've have never thought it was Sheila nor Poppy because they would be to obvious. I suspected Li because I figure she'll do anything to keep their family secrets hidden that Poppy slept with her husband Jack, as well as her stepson Finn who I believe to be Lunas father which would explain why Li HATES Poppy so much. But I don't buy Poppy is a gold digger and that she trapped Bill into anything because Bill has been happy and all over Poppy since he recognized her EL Degenois Restaraunt and 🤑Bill stared pursuing Poppy from what I've been watching in their relationship Poppy NEVER chased after 🤑Bill and I believe that Bill and Poppy genuinely care for one another.
Facts!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. Like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Thank goodness they drag this story as long as they do every other story line!!
I agree. Li just sat there after Tom collapsed. She's extremely weird, and worse since Poppy arrived.
I think all this is so sick you want to think a Doctors would save lives
/This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is in on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
It was Poppy who drug Tom and really kill Tom for no reason Tom know that bill is not Luna daughter what poppy did to tom is really disgusting and really disrespectful we all know that Shelia Carter didn't do it
If it was li.
Then she’s leaving the bold.
It has to,someone who’s leaving?
It’s not Sheila
Lei poppys sister
She is a depressing character.
No love no light
I would hate to play that role
I believe in time that Katie and $Bill will get back together when all this comes out.
Hope so! They obviously still love each other. Or maybe Brooke & Bill? Get rid of Ridge. (Please)!
Em Eden Hills SA.
I think it was Li & poppy that killed Tom
The flashback of Tom and Poppy is the joke of the internet.
Ugh on today's episode: Paris and Hope, whatever - Bill and Katie, whatever- Almost died Eric (maybe he lost a whole bunch of brain cells) congratulating his grandson on his engagement with a woman he started dating 3 months ago, whatever, -Hope going to Eric and Donna's house- are ya crazy, Hope? Thomas could have gone back to LA with satan and Eric would throw them a wedding cause Forrester.
If Bill is not Luna's dad, I think he might still adopt her. He seems to be very fond of her. Of course on B&B, if Bill isn't her dad, he could always start a relationship with her. 🤮
yes that is possible yuck
I rather see Tom and Poppy story than Thomas,Paris,Hope and Steffy
I totally agree with u the writers keep writing boring story line
I think Justin was there following Poppy - whether for Katie or Bill we don't know yet.... Jack was there looking for Poppy and Luna.... Li is the one who appears to be the culprit because she doesn't want it out that Jack is Luna's dad because of what it would "do to Finn" to find out his Aunt cheated with his serial cheater father -- and to attempt to frame Sheila: two birds/one dead Tom - who would ruin what she did with the Paternity test.... then there's the weird sweaty guy they showed briefly as they were scanning the crowd - he may be "jonesing" and Tom told him to go away because he has cleaned up his life and isn't dealing anymore. I think Tom helped raise Luna from the moment Poppy found out she was preggers and until Luna was about 8 years old.... the absolute worst was the attempt to make Tom and Poppy look 20 years younger - that was beyond painful to watch and was beneath the actors/story. Bell and his writers really need to step it up because the repetitive dialogue that goes on for days is too much.... just as sticking with characters we don't care about - like Paris, Poppy, and RJ! Don Diamont's/Dollar Bill's talents are being wasted with this whole storyline.... if all of this was to get Katie and Bill back together - since they're bringing on new Will, who I think will be fantastic - and maybe a new love interest for Luna - then they could've written a much better storyline 🙄
Tom is Luna's father!
/This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. / /like Bill to trap!!/ Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Maybe Justin slept with her too 😂
Li is the one I thunk it is
I don’t think Bill is Lunas father’s either . No story I’m that!
This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! /Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is in on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
Tom's wig was from Wish and his outfit was from Temu.
🤣😂🤣 Wish and Temu...
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I think Li did it. I think she is desperate to prove that Poppy is a gold digger and doesn't want the secret to come out whose Luna's father really is.
Tom wants to tell all of Sheila's secrets. 1 that sugar and sheila plotted to kill steffy. 2 that Sheila is not the mother of and that she knows it, but because she is ill she has come to believe that her stolen child Finn is also her son, which will show that she does not say that she is still a psychiatric patient. If Deacon finds out, Deacon will leave her and that is why she killed Tom but wants Li to pay for it because she is afraid of Li because Li has sworn to do something to her herself so that she would get rid of her in compensation. and Tom's revelation will also harm Finn, Li and Poppy because he also found out that Luna belongs to Finn and Bill, which would also make Poppy and Li suspicious. I don't think Tom is just a wanderer, but an underdog who knows everything about actors vs B&B
Nope. He is not Luna’s Dad
Yes he is her father
They can cut a sample of his hair and do a DNA test.
People have forgotten that Steffy and Liam were married and she was pregnant. She walked in on Liam and Hope with her legs wrapped around his waist making out ravishly. They were in a room by the fashions and Steffy walks in. She was stunned and hurt and angry and told them she was done and that Hope could have Liam and she walked out. So now Hope is after Steffy’s current husband. Hope is just as cheap as her mother Brooke. I hope that Finn puts Hope in her place and tells Steffy what happened then Steffy can fire Hope and her line.
I agree that Li & Poppy had everything to do with Tom Starks murder… sounds like Li definitely doesn’t want it to come out that Finn is the Father of Luna . Dollar Bill Isn’t going to be happy once he finds out he’s been played by Poppy the gold digger & Li . I’m glad that Katie on high alert doesn’t trust Poppy at all with good reason.
Don't let Finn be Luna's Father. No No.
One problem with the Li faking a test theory: the entire test was performed in front of all parties. They all stood in the room while waiting for the results. As such, that theory can’t work.
/This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
I enjoy soap dirt! But i can't watch bold anymore
Crap story line
I hope Finn is not Luna's father ..because Finn is Li's adoptive son which makes Finn Poppy's nephew...i think Luna's father is either Tom or Jack.. .But i think Li might have had a hand in killing Tom if it turns out Jack is really Luna's father
No Tom is Lunas father!
/This is what I think is going on! Tom is not dead... /The reason why Li rigged the test to make Luna/Bill DNA positive was to expose Poppy for what she is! A gold digger! Yes, Tom is the father of Luna! but because Tom isn't rich! Or A hot shot Bill Spencer!! Poppy held out for a rich man. like Bill to trap!! Li probably knows that Tom is the real father! I bet everyone is on the plan! Li Jack Bill and Justin. Bill still acts like he wants Katie! Like I'm not really with Poppy We are exposing her! And did you notice how Bill didn't stand up for Poppy? He said you will always be my Katie! The reason Li didn't help Tom is because she knows he's not in harm's way! and LI being a doctor they may have switched cups and Li gave him a mild sedative' /to pass out! / And the cops put Tom in a safe place! Poppy may have asked Li to kill him! that's why everyone was there in Deacons Restaurant that night! To ask someone to kill is still a tempting murder! Or they followed Poppy to Deacon's Restaurant knowing she was going to try and kill him!! That's why Bill got the notification on his phone to see her reaction first!
I suspect Li 100%, but they are ALL going to think it was Sheila. Li was my #1 suspect from the beginning.
I don't think Poppi conspired with Li on the actual murder, though, because she seemed too shocked and heartbroken that Tom was dead.
It could be that jack & Justin were there to hear tom sing cuz they were fans of his from back in the day 😂
Who seriously cares about any of these crappy storyline, In my opinion if this comes to be true about Finn being Luna’s father,, it’s disgusting,and absolutely sickening? There’s not one storyline on this show that is even worth watching ever??? Brad Bell has yet again ruined the July sweeps, just like all the rest and turned it into a snooze fest??? This whole show is a complete mess, waste of time and storyline, because they are all awful??? It’s disappointing that all these sickening plots that Brad Bell has spinning around in circles is the best that can be done for July, sweeps ? The whole who killed Tom will become a long and dragged out mess , to where fans will not care about the outcome, the whole sickening , thing with Hope is just a joke in every aspect and why are you making Hope her mother Brooke in wanting Steffy’s man just like Brooke always wanting someone’s man? Brad Bell or whoever is responsible for the writing of Hope’s character, you had a great storyline for her until you ruined it , Hope had the best chemistry ever on this show with Thomas, and then you just took away everything that the fans loved about them and trashed your show, the storyline and your fan base??? We don’t look forward to absolutely anything on this show any more?? Except to not tune into it at all , because we aren’t missing a thing anymore , no matter how many episodes we have missed, it’s just the same mess that we stopped watching????
Either do I!!!
Jack is Luna's Dad!!!
Now It looks like Jack is the # 1 suspect imo. Jack showing up mysteriously, speaking to Finn about how great Poppy is & how Luna deserves a great father, he spoke about having a drink with Hollister at the bar and then Hollister finds Tom's bag & gets murdered. He spoke to the person who murdered him saying I am glad you are here I need to talk to someone about it. If Hollister talked to Jack at the bar he knows Jack is a lawyer so that would make sense. So right now I am saying it is Jack. 😊