Christopher Columbus' First Letter After Discovery of America // 1493 Primary Source
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- Written aboard the Niña during the long journey home (and finished in Lisbon) here we have Christopher Columbus' first letter announcing the results of his monumental journey across the Atlantic; the islands he visited and his encounters with the natives - encounters that swiftly led to the death of millions and eventually the world we know today.
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When I have to get to the word count of an essay: "some of them are large, some are small and some are of medium size"
That's 13 words already on just describing sizes, nice
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That's weird, as I read this comment the video stated it word by word.
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Love how he slides in that complaint about the ships he was given. "I did awesome, but I could've *really* discovered some cool shit with better ships, buy you know it's whatever."
Ha ha
For real, I love learning about old world shade and disses.
Really connects to history 😂
Who knew that glassdoor reviews are actually older than we thought.
Humans never have changed lol. "You know if you hadn't been so stingy btw."
Matthew Boyle facts
I just love listening to these. Makes you better understand the mindsets of historical figures and you get a real feel of the time.
Thanks!
Yes, it was narrated brilliantly - I could picture Columbus scratching his quill pen on paper and thinking about what to write to Ferdinand.
More of a "reel" feel
Are you finnish?
@ANT BANKS How so?
Dear Mama,
It's so frustrating, I have been in China a week now and STILL haven't found a good Chinese takeout... or even a city.
Love Chris
This should have more likes
why the fuck are you in useless China?
I went to China for 3 years... couldn't find any dragons. Came back.
SpeakUp RiseUp Took me a second.🙂
@Shreyas Misra well maybe because he didnt know there was a fucking continent in between asia and europe through Atlantic
Ah, yes, the classic Chinese province of Cuba.
Ya ' easy for us to make fun of, but consider what they had done.......for the first time, mind you.
@@lujitsu1251 Vikings beat him by almost a millennium, as did St. Brendan of Ireland.
Just Beyond The Corner Productions you missed my point. He was the first to the islands. If he wasn't there would be some sign of the Vikings arrival and the Irishman.
@@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540 Ah but neither of them changed the course of history for the entire planet now did they? Columbus's discoveries are far more historically important.
@@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540 You should read the Voyage of Saint Brendan, it's pretty darn mythological
I like how Columbus on one hand refuses to let his men con the villagers out of their valuables, but is fine offering them to the king of Spain as slaves.
I noticed that too. Also how he was talking about converting them to christianity early, then is like "want some heathen slaves?" later.
It goes to show that you can't judge the actions of men 500+ years ago with a 21 century mentality, only ignorant or people with agendas do it.
@Xaris Xeros He literally used the phrase by force in the letter. And he directly refers to them as slaves.
@Xaris Xeros Perhaps you're right, I'm not an expert but considering how common slavery was at the time it seems likely to me.
You do have to remind youself how insanely class- (or rather estate-)aware people were back then. Honestly, they were probably more estatist than racist (i.e. a King of another race would still count more than a peasant of one's own). So it's just normal to Columbus to not want his dirty, ragged, outlaw men to mistreat the natives, but the King... well, he *can't by definition* mistreat anyone. He's the *King* ! He's been annointed by God. The natives would count themselves lucky to serve the glory of his Majesty... and so forth.
As a Dominican I really wish more information was preserved on the Taino people. It always shocks me how they were the first native Americans to be contacted by Europeans yet there’s barely any information on them.
Kailey gg ummm think 🤔 about why!!
Ironically they were big time conquerors.
I'm 60 years old and had no idea?! I couldn't help but pity these kind innocent indians. ... Knowing how they were taken advantage of..🥺
@@peashooter8228 oh those poor "innocent" (not indians) indians who were guilty of nothing.
Little Bean123 That’s because we are the taino people. They try to steer melanin people away from knowing that we are the native Americans. They’re not killed off. The only race of people that were killed were the mixed (with European) Native American people with the straight here that look the same as Mexican people (who are also mixed). Real native Americans look just like us with darker skin and thick hair. They did not take us from Africa we were already here and had left Africa 100s of thousands of years ago.
Not usually one to gush but I can't get enough of this channel. There's something so satisfying and uplifting in hearing the thoughts and musings of ancient people. Do the letters of Cicero!
Thanks!
Not to mention how soothing his voice is to listen to as he reads.
@Steing Groburf Are there any real intellectuals today? Real ones. Not the Starbucks philosophers.
@@HwoarangtheBoomerang how about Nassim Haramein?
Uplifting? Did you even listen to the letter?
"I took possession of these islands for our king by making a public proclamation and unfurling his standard. Nobody making any resistance."
No shit, they didn't speak Spanish.
LOL
LMFAO
Be careful most Puerto Ricans will flip out saying ppl who don't speak Spanish ain't really Rican.
Nor did they even know the significance of flags
For those of you wondering why Columbus writes with such a preoccupation with pagans and heathens, remember that his voyages began the same year as the final Moorish Kingdom in Spain was defeated; at the time it was quite topical, and should explain why he was insistent on converting the islanders and having them recognize the King of Spain.
The reConquista turned into the conquista
That’s makes so much sense. It’s so good to understand where ppl come from geographically, culturally, and personally
Wisdom ✊🏾
*queen of Spain Isabella I
I wonder who disliked this video. This is an extremely important primary source and first-hand account. Great channel!
You can’t dislike youtube videos
@@rickrozen2341 yeah, they turned off this feature unfortunately.
This was an amazing video. I was entranced by the letter, and your voice was perfect for it. Well done! :)
Dude...native Cubans were such sweethearts it breaks my heart knowing what awaits them in future.
Cannibalism by the Caribs who were moving into the region?
The modern cubans I've known are also rather nice.
@themailman43 yeah, Cuba's always had something fucky with them. hopefully they'll find peace and freedom.
@themailman43 Yes because it was an absolute paradise before the revolution..................
@themailman43 LMAO oh the irony. Places that are run well do not have revolutions. Places where there are dictatorships. Mass torture and state sanctioned murder do tend to get people to overthrow their governments. Funny how that's a common theme, huh? I hope you don't see President Kennedy as a pro-communist source.
In 1953 the average Cuban family had an income of $6 a week with about 20% unemployment. 1/3rd of the population lived in poverty.
"At the beginning of 1959 United States companies owned about 40 percent of the Cuban sugar lands-almost all the cattle ranches-90 percent of the mines and mineral concessions-80 percent of the utilities-practically all the oil industry-and supplied two-thirds of Cuba's imports." - JFK
"Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in seven years ... and he turned Democratic Cuba into a complete police state-destroying every individual liberty. Yet our aid to his regime, and the ineptness of our policies, enabled Batista to invoke the name of the United States in support of his reign of terror. Administration spokesmen publicly praised Batista-hailed him as a staunch ally and a good friend-at a time when Batista was murdering thousands, destroying the last vestiges of freedom, and stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the Cuban people, and we failed to press for free elections." - JFK
Damn commies destroying Cuba!
Obligatory comment complimenting your natural hesitations.
Splendid 😊
@@VoicesofthePast The hesitations are glorious, and entertaining...
However, I do have a small objection. It's possible to change the meaning of the text by using them in a certain. When he speaks of the natives experience with weapons, and you pause before he says "....adapted" it changes what is a neutral and objective observation into something sinister.
If you ever happen upon the journal of the physician for Columbus' 3rd, maybe 4th expedition, it's interesting. He sees what he takes to be mermaids. He was disappointed. Based on his description he was seeing manatees.
Lots of people say they had sex with them. It's hilarious
This should be taught in all history classes.
Keep dreaming fam! It will never be taught! We're here because WE love History and anything related to it.
No way, Republican outrage dictates everything, and there's no way they're going to let teachers show their students how evil and cruel Columbus really was.
Thank you so much for doing these. They're really interesting and present a real insight into history. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
please do Cortez writing to the king of spain about the Aztecs empire and its capital Tenochtitlan.
Already have done a little 😁
Yes he admires their capitol and says many good things about them. While just a little bit afterwards completely destroys their world. Kind of the same thing Columbus does here.
@@si4632 cortez' men were so amazed by the aztec's capitol that the questioned if it was real or a dream. And Cortez was amazed by all the Aztecs accomplishments while not having any contact with any other nation.
@@JC-mn2ll yep true but he wasn't so amazed by the human sacrifices
@@JC-mn2ll remember he could only conquer with the support of other native tribes the Aztecs had been slaughtering
BUT, I love the way your channel narrates these letters...spot on!
That was amazing to hear.. I love history told this way.. you really get a "feel" for what it was like.. (Lucky he didn't venture north to say queens or the Bronx it would have been him that was terrified..) Thanks so much for your great narration and your great choices in material... Carry on..
@@rafewheadon1963 I believe it was a joke.
@Hannable Thuh Princeindeed, a bit of dry humor
@Elle Morgan Elle, you didn't get it.. you must not be from New York then, those are a couple of dangerous boroughs there.. I do not know how you got a reference to My black and brown brother from this.. Your so eager to right what you think is a wrong that you do not even know what the subject matter is.. little Darling.. slow down.. there are plenty of white people there to hon.. it was a reference to the tough streets of New York.. not a reference to black and white.. When you grow up and get a little older you will learn to read something first.. before you say silly things.. But thanks for the effort.
tinkmarshino I agree with Elle. It was a poor attempt at racist humor. Smh
@@Represent1 Really? did it come out like that.. in that case I am ahamed.. it was never ever intended to be a racist thing.. I have never judge a person on race, religion nor creed.. only on the fact of their actions.. To all of those that thought I might have made a racist comment I ask for you forgiveness .. I have always been a man that has spoken his mind and for 68 years now no one has ever called me a racist.. truly this was not an attempt to start to be one.. Thanks for letting me know how it seemed..
Please do more on the America's. The natives perspective on Europeans would be fun.
They didn't write.
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I could listen to the narrator all day long ... awesome channel
Thanks! There's lots more
The narrator should not be British. It would sound better if he had an italian accent. Christopher Columbus was Italian. Cristobal Colon.
@@mustardseed3624 you must be fun on party's
Amazing work, and this is truly fascinating.
Thank you for this video please keep reading more of Columbus's writings.
There were no bananas in the Carribean in 1492...
Cotton is mentioned numerous times in part bc it had a similar value to silver at the time by weight.
In 1615 Quixote Book, Dutch linen was described as a treasure like gold or silver. Good quality fabrics were very expensive back there.
Could you find any accounts of the Guanche people of the Canary Islands dating from the 14th century when the Spanish encountered them?
This is my new favorite CZcams Channel!!! How have I lived without you?
Great vid!
Meanwhile, in an alternative reality:
Columbus: "Ah, I have reached Cathay. Now to claim the islands for Spain, and capture some natives to send back as proof. Wait, what's that noise?"
Sailor: "Sir, 100,000 Chinese soldiers have just turned up, asking wtf were doing?"
In 1492? China would have been surrendering immediately lol
Yeah, this project is so cool! Really takes you there.
This shows an interesting human element to these explorers and colonizers. We often attack historical figures for their ties to things like slavery or colonial exploitation. Yet they were human like us, living as a product of their times. They understood concepts such as "justice" (when Columbus forbade his men from taking advantage of the natives), but they also forcibly kidnapped with the aims of religious conversion and economic gain. Its a hard thing to reconcile, but these types of videos go a long way.
Columbus made 4 total trips to "the new world" and was summoned back to Spain from his 3rd trip and actually imprisoned for a time due to his cruel governorship in Cuba. He is an interesting figure in history, but not a good dude at all.
@@jordan_8329 it was Columbus's political enemy who spread rumors that he was brutal in his governorship, once he was arrested he was quickly found innocent. But hey, white man bad, am I right?
@@lourencoalmada1305 There is plenty of material available from his own journals and those of his men to prove the case he was killing off natives in Cuba and other islands. He was not "proven innocent", but was released and allowed to make one more voyage, but his titles and land in Cuba were never returned to him due to his cruelty.
@@lourencoalmada1305 Its really not some "white man bad", liberal, or SJW issue. It boggles my mind how ppl want to defend every last inch of ground in a "columbus wasn't such a bad guy" argument. He had thousands of natives hands cut off ( causing them to subsequently die) because they were unable to mine or even find gold for him to repay his financers.
@@jordan_8329 Don't forget child sex trafficking.
Can you do one of Henry Hudson's first voyage to New York? Would really like to here that if theres any writings since im from New York
Does this channel have a podcast? My internet isn’t always strong enough for video.
This was so beautiful.
Great stuff! Thanks.
Thank you!
Could you do Pero Vaz de Caminha's letter about the discovery of Brazil?
Discovery of Brazil?
I loved hearing about the places he found and being like “that must be Cuba”
He doesn't sound evil.
He just said he Kindapped a few by force.
That's not actually him talking.
@@kpimkpim349 I know, but he doesn't seem as evil as I thought.
@@averydennie728 only if necessary. Abortion is immoral no Matter how you look at it but it is a necessary evil when it comes to rape victims
Plenty of times he made a point of how peaceful and nonconfrontational the natives were and how easy it would be to overpower them and lay waste to their lands. Read between the lines.
I cant stop watching these. Every time I finish one video there is another one. The next one in line is the founding of Rome.
Columbus says that there is an island there where men are born with tails.but it appears that he was told this by the inhabitants of other islands and did not witness it himself. Interesting. It's too bad that he did not go to that island in person to see if this story were true.
I’ve always loved in these old historical accounts how absurd the descriptions of neighboring people get once they’re far enough away that you can’t verify it for yourself... reminds me of the people who speak only by screeching like bats that Herodotus described 😂
I think he does in his other letters
@@ValensBellator I have an old Scottish history book (from 1500 or thereabouts I think) that claims some of the English have tails.
@@iapetusmccool There's also French depictions of the English having tails too. It's a bizarre piece of propaganda that seems too absurd to have stuck long.
It was not true
There are thousands of descriptions like this from Spanish French English Portuguese about the la Florida and the ppl of it and they are way different than we are taught..
Rule number 1 about America's history disregard everything the english wrote about themselves and anyone else, its like believing the earth is flat
@@barbatvs8959 i wouldnt say theyre inferior just less relevant to global history
@@barbatvs8959 as if. Spanish are jsut gelly.
@@barbatvs8959 both the spanish and the english were racist, racism is still present in both countries
Nice. So interesting to here things from the very people who were involved. Only problem is it is easy to judge from our hind sight view the merit to their enterprise. Not sure we really understand or can make full sense of the cruel and selfish actions of others when we can’t really take responsibility for our own actions and acceptance of this lifestyle we live now. Interesting none the less, thanks for your efforts, love this style of presentation that you use.
Even after listening to this, you still believe the communist interpretations you've been fed? You're pretty fucking stupid.
@Antony Ruiz The natives were killing and enslaving each other well before they ever saw a white man, the idea that natives were these perfect peaceful people who communed with nature like Disney Princesses and never hurt anyone ever is romanticized bullshit. It wasn't the Europeans that built the aztec skull pyramids.
People in the past were mean to each other, get over it. Of course it only matters to you when you can use it to try and guilt trip white people today who are separated from the events by hundreds of years.
@@raspberrypie1706 The First Contact of Columbus was like a meteor strike on the planet...he caused a whole new climate change called the ANTHROPOCENE ..it also resulted in a new bible (KJV 1600c)...a new religion called Protestantism....a reformation..Muslim invasions of Germans and Austrians....child rape and trafficking for Italian mercenary armies in Papal wars as well as a market for new found beans from the new world ....
it caused an orbis spike in 1610 that defines the way science and weather patterns are predicted today (by ice core sampling done back as early WW2 by Germans and British)..
it destroyed a way of life based on the amazon grid basin and secret of terra preta...
one of the most tragic act of the Brazilian (pro Israeli) government of Bolsonaro was burning the national museum (it was intentional not reported though) ..
that museum held the records of the ancient past and was sacrificed like a holocaust...
up in smoke....the new world was called Eden or Zion or a new homeland by the 'pilgrims'...
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/03/fire-engulfs-brazil-national-museum-rio
@Antony Ruiz Nobody said "white man" was innocent, funny you need to use race so you can drag millions of people into a group to blame them. Conquest and wars was a global thing back then
@@martymethuselah notice nobody else replied to you, have a nice day
Great channel. I always love seeing a glimpse of how ppl thought and spoke throughout time.
Once again, thank you. This is amazing, unique content.
Thanks!
Notice how Columbus called the islands beautiful. In his multiple journals he wrote about the islands in ways that expressed how much he loved the scenery. He was the only European explorer to write this way about the locations that he explored.
Grug Urgh I know because I read it somewhere. I don’t hate whites. White people are my favourite people. Especially Italians like Columbus.
For a long time it was considered shameful to admire beauty in nature. There's even one account by the poet Petrarch where he climbed a mountain, admired the view, then felt ashamed of himself for giving to nature the adoration he felt belonged only to God.
Jamestown in our time sentiments are reversed. Sadly we exalt the creation and disregard the Creator. I wonder if Petrarch would be shocked.
Yes he describes the beauty before graciously offering the native ppl as slaves to the king 😂😂 pls dont romanticize it.
@@ccdiez8326 He doesn't advise the King to enslave them, he merely states that they're not a martial society. Moreover some translations say "subjects" or "servant of God" (i.e. Christian).
Going to hit 100k subscribers in no time. Well read, well presented and great content.
Thanks! Hopefully
Only thing full of lies
Can you do some of Civero's work? The trial of Verres, perhaps?
i don't care what anyone says i like Columbus and James Cook
This was posted a little late.
Early for Thanksgiving.
Well, I know what I'll link on my Facebook page next October.
@Gjr Hatz
Because? It's a primary source.
Coming soon
Havana just celebrated 500 years since its foundation,
11:40 I'm sorry, TAILS?? No follow up on that one Chris? Does anyone know what he's talking about?
I know right? Lol what the heck
Google humans born with tails.
Oh cool
Amazingly executed! Very eye opening on how Spaniards /Europeans were thinking at the time of the greatest world explorations ever. Thank you :)
Well done
I love your work... it makes me so joyful to travel back in time every time I have a long route at work
Can you perhaps do a Russian explorer in Alaska?
They neglect to leave how he had Hebrew interpreters on his voyage so he can communicate with the ppl on the new world who are of the 12 tribes.
Ah, so which of the expelled Jews did the Spanish Crown keep around for just this, eh?
You black isralites and your insantiy. Or is this mormon propaganda.
Tribe of judah from western Africa . Historians believe native Americans spoke a Hebrew Phonetic type language
True, natives of cuba were jews (history won't tell you)
9:50 - 10:05 turn on closed captions
This isn't the primary source. We don't have the primary source. I'll also note there appears to be some context cut about the cannibalistic Caribs. Its interesting to read how in later voyages the Spaniards changed attitudes when the Taino died off from diseases but the cannibalistic Caribs, who were the reason the Taino were so fearful of men from the sea, persisted.
This translation is missing very important parts. He starts his letter saying: "This great victory God has given me..." which this video doesn't say. He also makes several references to Spain, Christendom, and Tenerife that are also missing. If you want to know about the past, read straight from the source.
1:30 The people who ran away were the smart ones.
Not really, quite the opposite in fact
@@celeridad6972 What do you mean?
Just watched the mini series..1492... Conquest of paradise.. ( about Christopher Columbus)it was superb..and after watching your video.. one can really relate to what was happening at that time... hat's off to the voice actor who read out the " letter".. thanks for sharing..!!!!
How do we know this is a primary source? I was under the impression these were very difficult find and that they have been edited and revised several times throughout history.
People hundreds of years ago liked documenting and recording things just as they do today. He's writing to the royals of Spain. Such correspondence was often preserved and archived. Obviously letters like this do get lost over time but if the royal archives kept such letters then if someone else made a forgery it would be fairly easy to call it out.
Columbus's writings had been well preserved and documented. Copies have been made and translated into English and other languages but this isn't from some lost to time ancient civilization's writings, where mistakes could be made. Its from Spain and was written in Spanish, there have never been revisions of the letters either.
Thank you for this fascinating video. I would love to hear you read Paul Revere's accounting of his ride warning of the red coats coming to confiscate the arms of the minutemen before the battles of Lexington and Concord in the Revolutionary War
Paul Revere's ride is mostly a myth, kinda like Valley Forge. There are a lot of myths surrounding the Revolutionary War that get perpetuated by lazy textbook writers.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 do you have any proof of this? Paul Revere documented his account of that night, meaning he wrote down his experience. Were you there that you're in a position to deny the validity of what he wrote?
This is a site where first hand accounts or records current to historic events are read in a believable and eloquent fashion and illustrations are provided. I don't take issue with any of the first hand accounts written here.
You present the words of Columbus with such elegance, especially the part where he literally “took by force“ the friendly native people from their homes… Humanity has been effectively dumbed down. The fact that Columbus is celebrated is direct proof of it.
Look for christus in your heart to forgive him
Rokas Peleckas, his crime against humanity is still ongoing. They are not the type of people you can forgive and expect them not to do it again. They will shoot you in the back and rape your baby girl. War has been waged and most of humanity is so brainwashed that they don’t even realize they’re under attack. The very sad part about that is that your children and grandchildren will pay severely for it. Even worse than what we are subjected to today.
@@mrrrokas Christ is one of the excuses used by the colonists to slaughter and subdue the natives.
ok jew
@@algonzalez6853 a supremely unChristian thing to say. Shame.
Where can I find the translation used here. I have located the same letter translated into English, but when it isn’t the same translation, there are a few word order differences. I would really like to examine this deeper.
This wasn't Columbus' original letter, if yours has differences you're probably reading the original
they seemed to learn an extraordinary amount about the geography in such little time
Please do Yazegrads III letter to Abu bakr.
It is to Omar. But it was written centuries after the supposed correspondence so I am very skeptical of its authenticity.
Who did he send the letter with?
The Santa Cristina, I believe.
there was no ship called Santa Cristina, the three ships were the Santa Maria, la Pinta and la Niña. He writes the letter on board la Niña.
Love the montage at the end juxtaposing Columbus' letter with villages being burned.
None of this letter points to any evil or exploitative intent on Columbus's part.
Human beings however are varied in their appetites for conquests.
Thanks for your hard work putting these together. Respect. ✌
Because you've been taught literal political slander about him. The source was a rival who wanted his position
Wow that was amazing.
This video's comments: "Christopher Columbus wasn't enslaving them he was just saying subject to the king."
Viking Funeral witness Idb Fadhlan's comments: "People are just saying you can't trust his account because he's a Muslim."
Me: But can we really trust anyone who wrote stuff down? Just because you can write doesn't mean you can't lie.
Nich Adams but why write lies down when surely nobody in Spain would care if he wrote that his men took tons of gold off of the natives while only giving them small, useless bits of crap they had on their ship?
Do you think he’s lying to make a bunch of people hundreds of years into the future believe he wasn’t a bad guy or something?
@@notgonnapay he is writing directly to the crown of spain who he has to impress. The land and peoples of the new world are now direct possessions of the crown and any valuable taken by his troops for personal gain can be considered theft. That is how I understood it.
@Based Log they didn't have draft animals
notgonnapay yeah exactly.
@@PorkChop1874 stealing > enslavement, it's what you're saying.
I have read 2 Spanish version of this document. There's a lot Lost in Translation. And there's straight up mistranslations. For example Spain is never mentioned because Spain didn't even exist. Columbus refers to Castilla not Spain. The so called fort it's not a fort at all is a villa he never uses the word fort.
Spain didn't exist? Ya that's why he named one of the islands Hispaniola, right?
@@JC-mn2ll España as a country did not exist yet. So he did not make references to it in the letter. Not in the Spanish version or the old Spanish version. He said Castilla not España.
@@sirluisray1974 ok so where did he get the name "Hispaniola" then smart guy?
@@JC-mn2ll smh. go look for your self dumb guy.
@@sirluisray1974 lol that's what I thought.
14:48 well... Wasn't expecting to hear about my ancestors in this video
I can't imagine a good name Caribs were known cannibals, did you not know?
Thank you for doing this.
Natives on first Europeans?
no thanks They didn’t write.
The library in mesoamerica was burned, so most writings from back then is destroyed
I think europeans burned down most of those scripts, but maybe there is something left
@christopher snedeker Yes but writing had started to die down by the 1400s.
There's a book with this info. The broken spears.
I think that whoever is adding these pictures of "spaniards killing indians" is quite offensive to all involved ['atrocity propaganda']. 17:55 It is not coherent with the reading thus making the reading itself sarcastic instead of purely historical. The whole joy of these readings is to allow the listener to get into the mind of the writer instead of staying within the obviously biased modern worldview of these events. What is the point of listening to these things unless one is willing to enter into the mind of the writer himself, without a modern filter?
Resposted 4 truth.
You can get into the mind of the author quite well and see things from his/her perspective without agreeing with them all the same. You know this, right? I don't see anything profound about your statement.
@@averydennie728 It's quite obvious the editor wanted to smear Christopher's letter right at the point he is most pious in the Holy Christian Faith therefore making this video disgusting AntiChrist propaganda.
The natives were treated more fairly by Columbus than today's ultra-wealthy atheists treat the peoples of the world.
That was good. Very good.
Sounded like he was writing a Christmas song near the end
I have read the diaries of Columbus. He was not a cruel man, though some of those sailing with him were. We would not ship a tribe back to the king and queen but he thought he was doing a good thing to protect the natives and to redeem those he thought were "cannibals". I get so angry at the slurs on his character. One has to understand the times.
The horrible way he treated the natives on his subsequent voyages is well documented. He was not a great guy. He deserves credit for being brave enough to sail into the unknown, but what he did once he got there doesn't deserve praise.
I appreciate your indignation of facts that are disputed by his own words. When he sailed back to make report to the king and queen, those he was forced to take with him took advantage of the natives and the young girls. Please understand the length of the trip back and the length of stay. When he found out this was reported to the king and queen and he was outraged. There was a lot of politics involved and false charges made. Some biographies are based on false premises.. Please dig further.
In the diaries you've read does he mention having the hands of thousands of natives cut off in Cuba during his third trip to the new world due to them not mining enough gold for him to pay back his financers?
@@taz7352 i read a part of his diary where a native girl refused to be raped so they flogged her until she allowed it.
@@JC-mn2ll .Columbus NEVER did. He was a Godly man
Imagine being there, on the precipice of a new world, of people without foreign influence....
That wasn't the first time a more advanced (lighter complexion)People made it to the (new world).The natives literally thought that Columbus was their god RETURNED from heaven. Plus, the natives immigrated to that part of the world themselves from Asia across Alaska and down. Conquest and Adventure used to be the way of the world. Unfortunately, most people are now indoctrinated and lazy.
@@baldwinbaby9162 haha dreamer. You're pretty indoctrinated yourself.
me writing an essay about columbus " trees, mountains, birds looks like a forest"
The native peoples were wise to see through their gifts
Even if they did, which i kinda doubt (could be wrong) they lost because of their isolation and lack of hostility
"The warriors fled abandoning their women. Parents abandoned their children, and children abandoned their parents. No because of any provocation, but because they were timid by nature." Them being afraid wasn't by nature, as in they weren't born timid. They fled for 1 of 2 reasons, or a combination of the two. The cannibal on the other island who would row about raiding people. Would you want to be taken captive by hungry cannibals? No. They became afraid of any strangers who appeared on their island after having been raided for decades or longer. The second possibility is since they had never seen a white person, they may have thought they were ghosts. Columbus was a pale redhead from north Italy. Many Spaniards were pale with red or blonde hair back then also. If I were a native and had never seen a white guy and some redheads showed up in a huge complex ship wearing clothes and iron, I might be scared.
For those who don't believe me about the Spanish having blonde and red hair. They were descendants of the Visigoths, a German tribe. Rome gave them northern Spain in exchange for peace. Ferdinand and Isabella, the king and queen of Spain in 1492 were both pale redheads. The Reconquista ended in 1492, since the war was over, they had extra boats they could lend Columbus, this is why he sailed in 1492 and wasn't allowed to earlier. Some of the Muslims who had moved to Spain when the Muslims conquered it stayed in Spain and converted to Christianity. Over the last 528 years they mixed and now Spanish people are a little darker.
@Gajah Simha Yeah I was just thinking they had it in the back of their heads that strangers can be dangerous. Then when these strange people showed up, they all ran. Where a tribe in an area not used to violence they may have been more curious and accepting toward strange people showing up.
When anglos cross the language barrier and realize with a CZcams video that the Spanish Black Legend is a distortion of History and Columbus was not the evil demon people claim him to be.
Yes
Right they just have a bs false agenda to promote
@Chris Hansen Did you miss the part where he enslaved them. Did you miss the wars of Religion that were due to start about 30 years after this. Did you miss the Inquisition, where supposed holy men cast out your Gods chosen people, and falsely accused countless innocents just so they could steal their money.
Is he not? He did started transatlantic slavery by packing hundreds of slaves in a ship, un prompted by the way, to which the queen insisted to treat the natives as free men not as slaves. Under his government he used torture and mutilation as punishment and allowed the prostitution of little girls.
Due to his transgressions he was even removed as governor, so even for the time he was pretty out there. So I ask, what is your interest in defending him?
@Chris Hansen Never said that you were Jewish, I am saying that the idea that in the late 15th century, saying that everyone in europe was a moral person, then saying that it was due to religion, is completely false.
Do documentaries on Pirates..and Buccaneers! Still have present day pirates..
I am the first citizen of my country to go to Slovenia and my compatriots know nothing about this tiny country. I'll claim the "man who discovered of slovenia".
Viva España 🇪🇸
Cristobal Colón era Genovés, Italiano.
So?
microcosmonauta Anacronismos. Como decir que Julio César era italiano. Colon hablaba castellano y en esa época Génova ya era parte del ducado de Milán, frecuente vasallo del los monarcas españoles y franceses.
microcosmonauta ‘Italy’ didn’t even exist at the time, ballbag. More evidence suggests Colon was Portuguese or even Catalan.
Columbus was a relative latecomer plenty others had been before. The viking sagas recorded on the things they saw there 500 years earlier.
next should be hernando de soto journey to north america and the encounters if the native americans!
Yes
Such a shame that they were welcomed with open arms and yet in the end the indigenous people would be persecuted and slayed with cruelty.
for the flip side read Bartolome de las Casas account.
It's almost blood-curdling to listen to him writing so casually about what we now know would be outright genocide.
Some men are more equal then others.
Love that the letter begins with his straight up kidnapping people.
You are beyond ignorant. Pathetic.
Wow this sounds like the start of a great friendsh-- (remembers history) Oh. Oh.
Better friendship than the one between british and natives that's for sure.
@@jjgf8412 nah
So many of the tragedies of history, were based on misunderstandings. Like most things. It never changes. But, they didn’t have the advantages we have now, of so much recorded history, to reference. When they ran out of a resource, they had to get in a boat, cross their fingers, and search for more. We have no excuse for our own ignorance.
@@jjgf8412 based on what? Your woke History teacher, or professor? You have to start over, completely. You got a crap education.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied based on que me comas la polla guiri sucio.
I haven't ever heard of this manuscript before.
Quite interesting indeed! ❤
Not me copying and pasting this for my history homework -
Cuba, Portugal... not a coincidence-