This new tactical shooter is NOT what you'd expect...
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- Gray Zone Warfare looks to be another extraction shooter clone, but it's actually completely different. I had a chat with the game's community manager and learned that the devs have impressive plans for a new persistent tactical shooter experience. Is it too good to be true?
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While the game does look good and I would love to have a game like this, I know myself and a lot of others are a little fatigued by the announcement of tactical shooters that promise the world and fall short on what they promised.
I hope the dev team the best, but I know I won’t be getting excited until we can get an actual playable proof of concept and see how the actual gameplay is.
Thank you.. I understand it, there are a lot of tactical shooters these days. Anyway this game is different, we had to develop a lot of tech for this game by ourselves.. its not just unreal… also we are working with special operators, with museums experts, we make our research about guns, ballistic, pmc..
@@marekrabas I can't wait to try it
@@marekrabas well see
@@marekrabas The graphics are really high quality, but will this effect gameplay cuz i dont want to have to run a 5.000 dollar pc just so gameplay is smooth. I hope you guys can make it work for lower end PCs but honestly the game is looking pretty good. Great work so far.
@@sennedegroof4728we dont know min and recommend spec yet, as we didnt start with optimization.. but we will try our best
A persistent game world with 3 factions makes me think of Planetside 2.
my thought exactly
If someone can make a “foxhole” in first person it would sell kinda like arma 3 Lib but better
Foxhole mixed with Vietnam. Spawn on SLs/HAB or Tunnels SLs/TLs placed. Map is 4 servers with 4 different large scale maps. Boom.
“Operator Branch Escape from Warzone Vietnam Royal”
Dang Moi... had me flashbacking with MAG. Such a good game back then
Aw man, MAG... you activated an ancient memory for me. Totally forgot that existed. Sorta pumped for Grey Zone once you mentioned that. Also it's looking crazy, graphics be getting nuts.
Tactical planetside basically
wow another ambitious "different" tactical shooter that totally wont be dead in the water in a year cant wait to see how this goes. they will totally deliver on all of these promises
Exactly. I have seen this too many times to count now. That is why I always reserve judgment until the game drops.
@@gregglasscock7470 if it does
It's good to be cautious. I don't think it's a bad take. Like I said in the video, they still have to follow through and live up to their promises but I'm much more interested than when I first saw the teaser a month ago.
This is exactly what my intuition tells me about this game. The amount of resources spent on just the looks in the trailer gives off the feeling that the actual game mechanisms will be 'just another game with a twist not heard before'. In fact the only mechanism shown on the game is literally a copy-paste from Tarkov! However, I sure would like to be wrong about this and be amazed of the game, but personally won't buy the hype - at least not for now.
my thoughts exactly, just super skeptical about this one.
“I’m not like those other girls” the game
My standard is so low nowadays that I'm happy to see a game which does not try to be COD,, BF, Apex and Fortnite at the same time.
Mag was so much fun, wish I could go back and play that.
Ironically, the issue that ultimately ends up killing extraction shooters is the PvP aspect of them. Realism is thrown out the door as the only thing most people do is to hunt other players down and in order to grief them and take all of their gear, even when you can get better gear "in the wild" off NPCs. In DMZ you can get the best gear around from NPCs and stashes in-game without ever engaging players or buy them for money earned from completing missions/tasks. It just devolved into geared teams hunting other non-geared teams down and ultimately, like Tarkov, the hackers come in and ruin what's left. The most popular version of Tarkov is actually its single-player MOD/overhaul that allows you to mod Tarkov to whatever you want it to be and gets rid of the other players. PvEvP games always end up falling flat on their face in the end because the PvP aspect of it is vastly out of whack with the PvE parts and it just devolves into a grief fest which kills the game. People get tired of getting attacked by assholes constantly because after a certain point, there's little to no risk for one group versus another. It just devolves into an African Warlord simulator where the more geared players bully the newer players just to screw with the newer/slower players. PvP centric games like Squad are better designed around this because there's no gear progression that'll give players an advantage. Everyone starts at the same time at the beginning of a round and on equal footing. It truly is skill based at that point.
In the tactical shooter space, it's interestingly the large-scale PvE games that dominate the space. The Arma series holds consistently strong and when setup for PvP, is similar to Squad in that there's no "super loot" that'll make you vastly more powerful than anyone else that allows you to run about with reckless abandon murdering everything. What's really taken a huge hit on Tarkov was the massive influx of cheaters. We had been told for years that cheating was impossible in Tarkov and then a CZcamsr shows one off and the curtains are pulled back for everyone to see. Even the Ghost Recon series holds up well and only sees player drop-off as people complete the campaigns. The most fun I have in shooters are actually the Co-Op PvE games that do not generally cater to a PvP aspect. The Arma missions can be extremely fun trying to tackle a campaign with a group of friends against the A.I. army. When I do want to play a PvP shooter, I want it a dedicated PvP shooter. Tarkov for me fell flat on its face as the cheaters got ridiculous or players geared to the gills had vastly different times to kill versus myself to where it got absurd. Those with no life who can dedicate inordinate amounts of time to play a game could become several tiers and away overpowered compared to those who don't have time to commit to the game as they do.
I've heard from some of the devs on thier discord that thier will be more of a focus in pve, but pvp is still something you probably run into. However I do understand where your coming from, I personally am enjoying stalker gamma over stalker way more because it is single player with the elements from tarkov I like.
Yeah people project their low attention span CoD playstyle onto any pvp shooter to have a power trip. Everybody talks about loss of gear and how punishing it is but over time certain groups of people have so much money in games like EFT they can just play carelessly and others try to play the same to keep up / have a better chance of success.
The issue is really that if the quests / missions are not the primary focus and the pve is only "meh" the community will just start playing it like a team deathmatch shooter on a giant map, same reason most people in battle royale games don't use proper tactics but rush into the next coinflip fight to keep the action and dopamine going.
SPT being "The most popular version of Tarkov" is the biggest cope I've read in a while
A lot of based on nothing statements.
@@IvGorin It far more than what you've given here.
The blood meter + coma mention is making me think of an ARMA/ACE Medical-type thing where if you lose too much blood, you'll pass out, and your buddies will either have to get more blood into your, or drag your sorry ass to the extraction point. could be an interesting way to encourage team play. Or just imagine - going it solo, getting into a bunch of scrapes. Losing a lot of blood. not quite being able to stop the bleeding. Passing out. And then waking back up at base, minus some cash but whole otherwise. (I hope you will be able to "loot" passed-out players like you can dead ones).
I feel like a game that takes inspiration from one of the community modes from Arma 3 and a little love and care from a indie dev comp is all our lil community needs for a banger rn
Any option for a Single-player ?
The fact that I know someone who worked on this and told me about this game early on and I was just like yeah ok whatever is astonishing guy wherever you are in this world congrats this game looks amazing
completely off topic but the background beat goes hard haha. Great video as well!
This is basically a wish version of escape from tarkov + during the contract wars timeline, where it was an actual ongoing war between bears vs usec
Planetside mmo gameplay with modern realistic weapons and factions on a crysis looking island with tarkov inventory system in unreal engine 5?... count me in(terested)
im holding out hope for Marauders like the devs might release a new update that with more content stuff like that, its a fun game with an awesome concept its just lackluster in what you can do in it my friends and i get bored after a few runs and wait for the next update which has been a while now, i still hold onto hope tho.
i only got to play mag for about a week and it was amazing! im looking forward to this game
Alternate idea on Intoxication: medicine increases intoxication and limits how much/how often you can heal.
The moment you mentioned MAG i lost a piece of my heart, i miss that game so much.
There is not really any substitute for that game.
I think it is an interesting premise. If there is an ability to interact with locals and players it would be very interesting. I had a lot of fun playing mag and planetside. I think this would be a great game if done right. It seems very grounded in reality. Playing for objectives, communication with buddies, and fighting other players on a changing landscape sounds awesome.
Good background music choice
2:41 exactly why I don’t play Tarkov anymore, it’s about as interesting as doing paperwork lol
skill issue
Cant wait for arena
same@@rundown132
Let's not forget the comparison with Planetside 2. Large maps persistent battle with 3 factions.
No kick starter, no early supporter bundle crap. This might get my money ONLY after it's released in full and then Internet verifies or debunks the promises.
Would love to test this game!! When i first played GR: wildlands I wanted a pvp fps map like that, hopefully this delivers!
if its a persistent world, that means if i die but my friend is still alive, can i go back to loot my corpse? Also, how could we see the difference between faction members? Armband or uniform difference?
I miss MAG so much! I gave up hoping for a MAG 2 years ago. This looks neat though.
Looks great
A tactical planetside 2, wow
This will be one of the hype fests to flop games.
It's a Czech game from studio that does mostly Mobile Games so this is a interesting change. I actually met one of the devs in a tram in the city of Brno 🤣
I miss MAG. The raven guys are the coolest faction to be with. 🤗☕
Poison might be from snake bites. Since it is in the jungle, i guess there will be snakes you need to watch out for?!
it will come down to the people that want to do missions will get killed by the people that just want to create havoc, turning a lot of people away from it. as well as the people that dont have tons of friends getting wiped out by mobs. that is the beginning, until the devs make a new world, thus splitting the game into two games.
try hunt: showdown! its one of the best extraction shooters i think, its going since 2015, very good gunplay and cool fights, try it out!!!
i would honestly want to see more creative extraction shooters like marauders or the hunt. there is a slew of milsim shooters out there.
extraction shooters are all about indulging in your inner pack rat and we want to see an environment that reflects that.
Post apocalyptic would be great setting. give me stalker/fallout vibes (and technically marauders is post apocalyptic but i want more)
Seems to be Foxhole meets DayZ gameplay meets modded ArmA Liberation strategy with fleshed out story, characters and missions but without the eastern europe/zombies trope? Ambitious!!
Though the last 5 years have taught us that everything is just talk until the players are actually doing what is pitched.
this feels like the operator drewski Anastasia ARMA 3 mod game.
One of the best BR experiences I’ve had was with Battlefield V’s Firestorm. It was extremely short-lived, but I thought it had immense potential. If DICE had made Firestorm f2p and monetized that INSTEAD of BFV’s multiplayer, I think the last half-decade of Battlefield would have been a whole lot different.
i 100 percent am in love with this game and i think it might become my fave game ever if it is as it seems so far
Extraction shooter talk is pretty uncompleted without talking about Hunt Showdown, which its player base is increasing every month
Why even try to throw such a statement out there, when its so easy to check to be false? Hunt had some months this year, where it grew, but has been going down in players for the past 2 months and same thing has happened periodically after new updates. It has less avg and less peak players than at the start of the year.
I don’t get why so many game devs are now changing how scopes have always worked. Now they are this tiny little view that seems like you need to look through backwards binoculars before you see the sight. So stupid.
This game looks so fun
I FORGOT ABOUT MAG THAT GAME WAS GOATED!!!!
I'm just gonna say right now. This gonna age like a milk.
How do you know, it's way to early to tell
@@steamhearteyes oh and what game is that
@@steamhearteyes some of the best games out there are just games trying to copy and be better than a previous game eg Call of Duty (medal of honor) league of legends (Dota) etc
@@the_fat_hans7755 The thing that makes me be very skeptical is the fact that the studio has never done a PC game before, only mobile games.
I just hope the food and drink mechanics aren't going to be a chore. I don't like playing sims in my shooter games.
How much pvp is it? I'm itching for a new true pvp modern realistic game.
Looks promising, I now refuse to get involved with Multiplayer games in Early Access after many let downs. Look forward to its full release!
Sounds like a little game called Planetside.
God i hope it is like Planetside, love that game.
marathon is gonna be extraction shooter
Crysis meets Planetside...
Thanks for the disclaimer. I'm always paranoic about if you are getting paid to promote games or not.
BRO! I was thinking mag and then you said it! Let's fkn gooooooooo STB for life
Is there going to be eye in the sky for post scriptum?
im kinda hoping its an alien crash site To add a twist.
MAG was this sh*t, I miss this game!!
If this actually ends up coming out, imma betray somebody and hit them with “The game was rigged from the start”
you can only carry one gun. the inventory is really small
Damn.... Imagine a Crysis remake (not remaster!) with this level of detail.
Good thing there's a Crysis 4 on the way then.
Marauders is actually still pretty good tho
I want the game to be good and hope it delivers. But it's attempting something ambitious to say the least. I think the persistent world, dynamic weather system and players inserting and extracting constantly combined with procedural loot spawns, realistic combat mechanics is a lot to ask of a game engine. We shall see
So its a mil sim planetside?
Can't even remember the last time I touched the Menu Simulator aka Tarkov. Game was only good for being the first of its kind. Been dying for another extraction game to come about that will execute right where Tarkov failed.
I disagree with this take. If it was only good for being the first, why hasnt it been surpassed by any of its competitors? None of them come even close to its popularity, not even when the competitors tried to implement hand-holding mechanics to accommodate larger audiences.
Def will be keeping an eye on this one. I loved Tarkov, but they are consistently removing the ability to play "your way" - so the sandbox focus of gray zone intrigues me.
means nothing until i see footage and at least 30min of gameplay. im not getting hyped over anything
FUCKIN LOVED MAG RIP LEGENDARY GAME
Why does this game look so identical to Reforger? Might be good, but I feel like Arma will ultimately have the upper hand in already stress testing and optimizing these kinds of environments. We all know how good a trailer can look. So far this just looks like a Modern setting Reforger mod- but I'll give it a chance
This looks like arma 3 antistasi
Are we not gonna even mention the fact that the company behind this has only done mobile games before this title?
I saw the buildings and I knew that it was southeast asia. Then I saw the text and knew it was Thailand. This has inclined me to buy the game being a Thai person.
When I saw this my thought was arma game. Map looks like tanoa. 3 factions on koth arma 3 that fight over areas.
If it doesn’t have proper controller support it will fail like many others
So it's more like PlanetSide 2?
The one thing that has seriously bothered me over the years (I swear to GOD I've seen it happen on moddb way too many times) is the same exact project/mod (or idea) on two different engines and either one dies off and the other one gets to a playable state for a bit then dies off or just completely takes off then someone tries to rip it to HL1 or Doom. There's no logical merging or collaboration. Like these two mod teams are on opposite sides of a galaxy unknown to each other. And neither side wants to make contact cause they're too proud with their project or they think that team is copying them. I honestly look at this game here and think "Did we not want to help out with Ground Branch?". I hope I explained that well and no offense intended.
This better have a single player
Sounds like an mmo take on an fps and that is interesting to me
Soooo... do they have an angle on combating hacks yet?
Guess what nags in my mind every time I think about trying tarkov again.
24/7 server means constant fresh players to kill?😏
Hope they add a god mod for predator mutant zombie infection alien
If they deliver then this will be something that can directly compete against EFT. Tbh this looks better than tarkov for real so if they can make it a reality then they have it in the bag
i think its weird people would rather have lore explained over the gameplay and game mechanics itself. Most games throw the lore in as part of the game, why waste the time having them explain something youll find out later
looks like stalker
But will it be free?
Or how much? :)
If you know let me know!
It is paid game but the price still unknown, but the good news is there is no microtransaction
A "Wait and see." Title for me. Plenty of interesting ideas, and I also immediately thought of MAG, but the ideas and game have to be fully fleshed out and well executed before I bother. Especially when the only thing the developers are known for are crappy mobile games and the entire genre has been saturated with garbage and scams for the last few years. Not their fault, they're just going to have to prove themselves.
I don't have the patience for a dozen different types of health bars and loot menus so this will probably be a pass from me.
If they dont have food items i aint gonna play
The reason I play computer games is to watch my character eat a granola bar and drink water. It's sooo fun!
So it’s literally… Planetside…
I liked DMZ. Got really good at being an awful person during my time playing it and made some great friends to be awful with.
I dunno why every one of these games wants you to be some PMC merc. Just let me be a regular US Army soldier. Just a regular 11B.
Believe it when i play it...
So… how is this game different than ARMA? Open, persistent world, multi-faction PvEvP, in-depth medical system (makes me think of some popular ARMA mods for health/stamina)… see what I am getting at?
Probably has way less depth in ballistics, physics, no destruction etc. Done with UE assets.
A 'tarkov' game without extraction, wouldnt that just be DayZ clone#8582? It just sounds like Epoch mod or something. I guess the 3 factions is neat but
planetside but modern warfare.
Just game to say MAG was great
Literally banking my gaming budget on this.
I'm skipping like 3 other games to slam my cash on GZW, and that's after feeling scammed with Escape From Tarkov. Something my buddy (who is also banking on this game) and I are really hoping for is the customization variety and depth that's in Ghost Recon Breakpoint. It's gonna suck if you finally get your cool outfit only to have it stolen by another player immediately. Also, being able to cosmetically wear a ghillie suit all the time is just freaking fun.
Why do you feel scammed with EFT??
Slam your cash on a game, thats the first PC entry from a mobile game studio? And weve only seen very little of the game. No wonder you feel "scammed" by some games, if you jump in the hype train that easily.
Looks like you need to flank in this game so I don't know why you would like it